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Date:      Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:38:20 +0100
From:      Christoph Kukulies <kuku@kukulies.org>
To:        Fbsd1 <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Cannot boot FreeBSD (8.0) from USB stick (Dell Inspiron 9400)
Message-ID:  <4B59D47C.1090203@kukulies.org>
In-Reply-To: <4B59AABA.6030301@a1poweruser.com>
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I don't know why you shout. (?)

Fbsd1 schrieb:
> Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>> Fbsd1 schrieb:
>>> Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>>>> I installed FreeBSD 8.0 on an USB-stick and was able to boot it on 
>>>> my Desktop PC and install 8.0
>>>> from it.
>
> DO YOU MEAN YOU INSTALLED THE 8.0 ISO ON A USB STICK. BOOTED FROM IT 
> AS INSTALL SOURCE AND INSTALLED 8.0 ON A DESKTOP PC TO THE MOTHERBOARD 
> CABLED HARD DRIVE??? OR DO YOU MEAN YOU INSTALLED 8.0 ON A DESKTOP PC 
> TO ANOTHER USB STICK???

The former, I copied the 8.0 iso image to an USB stick, booted it and 
installed it to the desktop PCs hard drive.
That was one story. The other point is, that I now wanted to plug this 
USB stick into my Dell inspiron and install FreeBSD in the same manner 
to a free partition on my notebooks hard drive.

>
>
>>>>
>>>> Now I plugged the same stick into my Dell Inspiron 9400 and the USB 
>>>> stick (2GB) is not even listed in the F12 Bios boot menu.
>
> YOU MEAN YOU PLUGGED THE STICK WITH THE ISO INSTALLED ON IT THAT THE 
> DESKTOP BOOTED FROM???

Yes, that same stick booted the desktop but is not recognized in the F12 
menu of my notebook.

>
>>>>
>>>> Any clues?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Christoph
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Older pc's have bios which do not have option to boot from USB stick.
>>> I think that is so in your case. Check mfg website for bios update.
>>> If not you are SOL. (shit outof luck)
>>
>> I can boot USB sticks in general from that notebook/BIOS. That Dell 
>> 9400 isn't that old. Today I tried an another USB stick (16GB) an 
>> Ubuntu 9.04 boot image and it worked fine. I saw the boot device 
>> under F12 in the bootable device menu.
>> It's definitely not the BIOS. Could be some partition problem (active 
>> partition?). 
> > Why is it part #4 btw, that FreeBSD resides in and not part #1 ?
>
> LETS NOT GET CONFUSED WITH MSDOS /FREEBSD TERMS. IN FREEBSD A SLICE IS 
> WHAT MSDOS CALLS A PARTITION. IN FREEBSD A PARTITION IS A FILE SYSTEM 
> SUCH AS /, /USR, /VAR WITH IN THE SLICE. A SLICE IS MARKED AS ACTIVE 
> MEANING ITS BOOTABLE. THE MBR

The FreeBSD fdisk program names it "partition".

> (MASTER BOOT RECORD)PARTITION TABLE IS REALLY FREEBSD SLICE TABLE. 
> FROM YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE YOU HAVE A MOTHERBOARD CABLED HARD DRIVE 
> WITH 4 PARTITIONS/SLICES DEFINED IN THE MBR PARTITION TABLE. THE FIRST 
> 3 PARTITIONS COULD BE HOLDING OTHER OPERATING SYSTEMS THAT YOU MAY 
> WANT TO BOOT FROM. IS THIS CORRECT?

Actually, I thought the USB stick had been blanked out before, but I'm 
nit sure and will look at it again.

>
> > I followed some FreeBSD howto, if I'm not wrong, to bring the ISO
>> to the USB stick. Think it was a tool from HP to write it to the stick.
>>
>> -- 
>> Christoph
>>
>>
>


I will come back with the results of the check below later.

--
Christoph

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