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Date:      Wed, 22 Feb 2017 00:53:37 -0500
From:      "Mikhail T." <mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com>
To:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Misuse of PORTREVISION (Re: svn commit: r434379 - head/multimedia/x265)
Message-ID:  <3800b40c-54af-8e4a-ad7a-389bc805651f@aldan.algebra.com>
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On 21.02.2017 22:38, Mark Linimon wrote:
> If he continues in this route I will be asking for formal permission
> to commit the necessary portrevision bumps to his ports over his objection.
>
> You may forward this mail to him if you feel appropriate.

Just in case you wanted to ask /my/ permission, you are certainly 
welcome to "fix" PORTREVISION wherever.

You will not need to do it in my own ports, however. The gist of my 
objection is that I'd like to work on my ports -- but the silly rule 
forces me to chase /other people's/ ports, which might be affected. mat@ 
-- in his uniquely talking-down tone -- made clear, that, although he 
agrees with me, that the rule is stupid, it shall be obeyed until I fix 
the broken 3rd-party tools[1] or else...

I'm more than happy to hear, that you volunteer to do it in my stead and 
I will not have to find out, what unspoken threat mat@ had in mind. Yes, 
I think it is a stupid thing to do, but there much silliness in this 
world -- so long as I don't have to take part, I can ignore it.

> I think it's a shame that you work so hard to work at cross purposes with
> other people in the project.
The actual shame here is, a sorry "tradition", which -- as we all agree 
(!) -- should never have gotten started in the first place, is perpetuated.

    -mi

[1] portupgrade, when invoked with "-r" (which you want to do nearly 
always anyway) will do the right thing. Maybe, it is not /that/ broken...




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