From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 20:37:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA64106566C; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A568FC17; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0PKbpea089719; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0PKbpDG089718; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:37:51 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20090125203751.GA89522@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD Current References: <497B3B40.3040306@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <497B3B40.3040306@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Noisy make -j output X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:37:52 -0000 On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 04:01:04PM +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > After a fresh buildworld on a system last built in November: > hydra2# make buildworld -j8 -s > --- upgrade_checks --- > --- make --- > [...] > > Why the extra-spammy output now? It's the intended operation of pmake/bmake from 4.4BSD. One reason I believe we haven't trusted 'make -j' in the past is it can be very hard to unwind the output when there is a build error. It turns out this is because dg in the past neutered them (presumably he didn't understand their value). After having used a bmake with the stock behavior I've seen how valuable the markers are. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)