From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 18 12:43:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74B416A415 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2957543D49 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:43:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9IChd5q007259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:43:39 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9IChUwf027553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:43:37 -0700 Message-ID: <45362151.8040100@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:42:57 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060929) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20610151556l18c5adcci4196ab107b6b9907@mail.gmail.com> <4533C553.3040609@schrodinger.com> <20061017135829.GA56234@gothmog.pc> <17716.62978.449526.12593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45350FE9.1060303@schrodinger.com> In-Reply-To: <45350FE9.1060303@schrodinger.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.18.50442 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:43:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Simon Gao wrote: > Robert Huff wrote: >> Jeff Mohler writes: >> >> >>> > > Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. >>> >>> Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well. >>> >> "Linux is closer to the bleeding edge; always remember that >> blood will usually be yours." >> >> >> Robert Huff > > With Gentoo, installing and upgrading to the most up-to-date packages is > a choice up to end users. Gentoo is all about choice. One can definitely > choose to use packages a few years behind. > > Simon Found out some cool make targets by chance.. - From /usr/src/Makefile: # universe - *Really* build *everything* (buildworld and # all kernels on all architectures). # buildworld - Rebuild *everything*, including glue to help do # upgrades. # installworld - Install everything built by "buildworld". # world - buildworld + installworld. # buildkernel - Rebuild the kernel and the kernel-modules. # installkernel - Install the kernel and the kernel-modules. # installkernel.debug # reinstallkernel - Reinstall the kernel and the kernel-modules. # reinstallkernel.debug # kernel - buildkernel + installkernel. # update - Convenient way to update your source tree (cvs). # check-old - Print a list of old files/directories in the system. # delete-old - Delete obsolete files and directories interactively. # delete-old-libs - Delete obsolete libraries interactively. # # This makefile is simple by design. The FreeBSD make automatically reads # the /usr/share/mk/sys.mk unless the -m argument is specified on the # command line. By keeping this makefile simple, it doesn't matter too # much how different the installed mk files are from those in the source # tree. This makefile executes a child make process, forcing it to use # the mk files from the source tree which are supposed to DTRT. # # The user-driven targets (as listed above) are implemented in Makefile.inc1. # # If you want to build your system from source be sure that /usr/obj has # at least 400MB of diskspace available. # # For individuals wanting to build from the sources currently on their # system, the simple instructions are: # # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make world' # # For individuals wanting to upgrade their sources (even if only a # delta of a few days): # # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) So, this helps a bit when updating your system. Didn't realize that the delete-old and delete-old-libs make targets existed, nor kernel.. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNiFR6CkrZkzMC68RAgROAJ9HFYZiWxU1/BvLc/u9gwu2TOkHDQCcC8WM bMNx1Y+xKfIXwpsZiOR9908= =ESy8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----