From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 00:11:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3E16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:11:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [207.7.145.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDBA43D53 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:11:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: (qmail 11629 invoked by uid 1347); 19 Jun 2005 00:11:39 -0000 Date: 19 Jun 2005 00:11:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20050619001139.11628.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> From: atk2@arctic.org To: atk2@arctic.org, dannyman@toldme.com In-Reply-To: <42A8852F.3040209@toldme.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw on freebsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:11:39 -0000 Thank you for the comments. I am now attempting to burn my first dvd and I keep getting this error: bash-2.05b# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd1a -R /a /b :-( unable to cam_open_pass("/dev/pass4",O_RDWR): No such file or directory -- I am unsure what causes this to happen. There is no /dev/pass4 but MAKDEV /dev/pass4 resulted in : bash-2.05b# ls -al /dev/pass* crw------- 1 root operator 31, 0 Jun 19 00:08 /dev/pass0 crw------- 1 root operator 31, 1 Jun 19 00:08 /dev/pass1 crw------- 1 root operator 31, 2 Jun 19 00:08 /dev/pass2 crw------- 1 root operator 31, 3 Jun 19 00:08 /dev/pass3 bash-2.05b# bash-2.05b# bash-2.05b# /dev/MAKEDEV /dev/pass4 /dev/pass4 - no such device name --- Is this a simple thing to fix ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 00:34:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537D516A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [207.7.145.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4553943D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: (qmail 1905 invoked by uid 1347); 19 Jun 2005 00:34:38 -0000 Date: 19 Jun 2005 00:34:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20050619003438.1904.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> From: atk2@arctic.org To: atk2@arctic.org, dannyman@toldme.com In-Reply-To: <42A8852F.3040209@toldme.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvd+rw on freebsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:34:38 -0000 bleh. I solved it by making hte device with mknod. Sorry for the spam. Alan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 00:41:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DA916A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D61643D1D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so298855rna for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:41:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oamyovX8OzaMa56qnee3jUh7GJtlBIFf0tLhbwt9mzACSismEyMPQ0Mq79dmS4VgBOK50AYxlzU1q1g4hJm5fhqnAEhsGG6ZNuWtjXqns2vPCa28ATt0pDxVrRmOnpzCwgzuy87AX3Zhs+8bildBwO5HIpGmjk/IFI2aEvrIkK8= Received: by 10.38.73.32 with SMTP id v32mr400897rna; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.98.73 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51d7a516050618174146b814c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:41:18 -0700 From: perikillo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <426EC127.1030707@adtu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <426EC127.1030707@adtu.org> Subject: Re: make x LC_ALL=C: command not found. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: perikillo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:41:19 -0000 On 4/26/05, Aaron Sloan wrote: > Hello, >=20 > step 1. I cvsup, rebuilt and installed world and generic kernel. > Mergemastered just like I always do. > I followed the handbook to the letter and this certainly isn't my first > time. > 5.4 stable. >=20 > I customized my kernel and went to build it. >=20 > make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DXX >=20 > I get the following error. >=20 > LC_ALL=3DC: command not found. > "Makefile", line 155 warning: "LC_ALL=3DC date" returned non-zero status > MAKEFLAGS=3D: Command not found. > "Makefile.inc1" line 116: warning "MAKEFLAGS=3D CPUTYPE=3Ddummy make -f > /dev/null -m > /usr/src/share/mk -V CPUTPE" returned non-zero status > "Makefile.inc1", line 118: CPUTYPE globaal should be set with ?=3D. > error code 1. >=20 > I did monkey with make.conf before step 1. > I added... >=20 > CPUTYPE?=3Di686 > CFLAGS=3D -O -pipe >=20 > Make now fails to the above error on every thing. > I'm not certain what I did to break it but I'm sure it has my name all > over it. >=20 > Thanks, > Aaron > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 I have the same problem after i update my system to 5.4-p2, look this is my information: FreeBSD 5.4 Release #uname -a FreeBSD devhora 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p2 #2: Thu Jun 16 18:58:06 UTC 2005 root@devhora:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/DEVHORA=20 i386 devhora# ee /etc/make.conf #$FreeBSD: src/share/examples/etc/make.conf,v 1.229.2.12 2005/03/07 20:39:3= 4 ph CPUTYPE?=3Di686 <<---Here i have try with i686 and p2 devhora#cd /usr/src devhora# make buildworld LC_ALL=3DC: Command not found. "Makefile", line 155: warning: "LC_ALL=3DC date" returned non-zero status MAKEFLAGS=3D: Command not found. "Makefile.inc1", line 116: warning: "MAKEFLAGS=3D CPUTYPE=3Di686 make -f /= dev/null -m /usr/src/share/mk -V CPUTYPE" returned non-zero status "Makefile.inc1", line 118: CPUTYPE global should be set with ?=3D. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. #dmesg output first rows Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p2 #2: Thu Jun 16 18:58:06 UTC 2005 root@devhora:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/DEVHORA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (267.27-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x634 Stepping =3D 4 Features=3D0x80fbff #/usr/src/Makefile.inc1 #$FreeBSD: src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.438.2.20.2.2 2005/04/09 13:26:35 ru Exp $ _CPUTYPE!=3D MAKEFLAGS=3D CPUTYPE=3D${_TARGET_CPUTYPE} ${MAKE} \ -f /dev/null -m ${.CURDIR}/share/mk -V CPUTYPE .if ${_CPUTYPE} !=3D ${_TARGET_CPUTYPE} .error CPUTYPE global should be set with ?=3D. .endif #/usr/src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk # Handle aliases (not documented in make.conf to avoid user confusion # between e.g. i586 and pentium) . if ${MACHINE_ARCH} =3D=3D "i386" . if ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "nocona" CPUTYPE =3D prescott . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "p4" CPUTYPE =3D pentium4 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "p4m" CPUTYPE =3D pentium4m . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "p3" CPUTYPE =3D pentium3 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "p3m" CPUTYPE =3D pentium3m . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "p-m" CPUTYPE =3D pentium-m . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "p2" CPUTYPE =3D pentium2 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "i686" CPUTYPE =3D pentiumpro . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "i586/mmx" CPUTYPE =3D pentium-mmx . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "i586" CPUTYPE =3D pentium . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "opteron" || ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "athlon64" || \ ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "k8" CPUTYPE =3D athlon-mp . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "k7" CPUTYPE =3D athlon . endif . elif ${MACHINE_ARCH} =3D=3D "amd64" . if ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "prescott" CPUTYPE =3D nocona . endif . endif # Set up the list of CPU features based on the CPU type. This is an # unordered list to make it easy for client makefiles to test for the # presence of a CPU feature. . if ${MACHINE_ARCH} =3D=3D "i386" . if ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "opteron" || ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "athlon64" MACHINE_CPU =3D athlon-xp athlon k7 3dnow sse2 sse mmx k6 k5 i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "athlon-mp" || ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "athlon-xp" || \ ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "athlon-4" MACHINE_CPU =3D athlon-xp athlon k7 3dnow sse mmx k6 k5 i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "athlon" || ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "athlon-tbird" MACHINE_CPU =3D athlon k7 3dnow mmx k6 k5 i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "k6-3" || ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "k6-2" MACHINE_CPU =3D 3dnow mmx k6 k5 i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "k6" MACHINE_CPU =3D mmx k6 k5 i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "k5" MACHINE_CPU =3D k5 i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "pentium4" || ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "pentium4m" || ${= CPUTYPE} =3D=3D " MACHINE_CPU =3D sse2 sse i686 mmx i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "pentium3" || ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "pentium3m" MACHINE_CPU =3D sse i686 mmx i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "pentium2" MACHINE_CPU =3D i686 mmx i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "pentiumpro" MACHINE_CPU =3D i686 i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "pentium-mmx" MACHINE_CPU =3D mmx i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "pentium" MACHINE_CPU =3D i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "i486" MACHINE_CPU =3D i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} =3D=3D "i386" MACHINE_CPU =3D i386 . endif There is a bug or i did something wrong, i add my sound card to the config file, disable some features on etc/make.conf like IP_FILTER, PF_FILTER, install Xorg from ports(this one still have problems with my keyboard, but that is another history P-/ ), my cvsup file has the tag=3DRELENG_5_4, i read the /usr/src/UPDATING file but no answer about this, i have been using freebsd since 4.4, this is not my first time i make buildworld. Any information about how to resolved this error? Thansk to all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 03:47:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2379616A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:47:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tiberius@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B0F43D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:47:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tiberius@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:tiberius@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5J3l9t0014254; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:47:09 GMT Received: (from tiberius@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) id j5J3l7ME013638; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:47:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:47:07 -0700 From: Matt Rechkemmer To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050619034707.GA23503@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <20050607064323.GA29038@sdf.lonestar.org> <20050607105030.GA44218@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050609101805.GA11341@sdf.lonestar.org> <20050609105116.GA87877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050609204814.GA11510@sdf.lonestar.org> <20050610183349.GA21866@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050610183349.GA21866@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf block question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:47:28 -0000 On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:33:50PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Existing icmp states? > > Did you reload the rules with: > > /etc/rc.d/pf reload > > or by directly running pfctl? I tried flushing everything with pfctl -Fa, and then loading the rules with pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf. The script in rc.d seems to do the same thing. After re-loading the rules, pfctl -sr yields: root@hybrid# pfctl -sr | head -n2 scrub in all fragment reassemble block drop quick on fxp0 from to any I've verified the table has actual IP addresses. It seems to be able to block new TCP connections. However, if an IP is connected currently, pf lets that connection continue; even after flushing the states and sources. It doesn't seem to care about ICMP. I can ping it from the box running pf, and receive replies. Am I just missing something obvious here? -- Matt Rechkemmer tiberius@trancell.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 04:04:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF33D16A41F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8482643D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Djr2f-0006Jn-KZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:04:17 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:05:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506182305.05505.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcac0e74dd3e101b880e814e6df70aed7f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: 3G file burns to -514M file on DVD-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:04:18 -0000 I have a gzip'd database backup file that's 3GB in size. I used mkisofs to create an iso image for burning to a DVD-R. Both the mkisofs and growisofs process appeared to finish successfully; but 'ls -alh' shows the resulting file to be -514M in size when the DVD-R is mounted in FreeBSD 4.10. When I mount the dvd in a separate FreeBSD 5.4 system, ls -alh results in 'ls: /cdrom/pgdumpall.gz: Value too large to be stored in data type'. I ftp'd the original 3GB file from the FreeBSD 4.10 system to the FreeBSD 5.4 system. ls -alh reads the size of the original file correctly. Windows reads the DVD-R and shows the file size correctly. I've tried recreating the iso image using -r and -l options and burning the iso file with and without the -dvd-compat option; but the results remain the same. Any ideas or advice? Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 04:42:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E0416A41F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lefty@ene.asda.gr) Received: from orfeas.asda.gr (orfeas.asda.gr [194.219.142.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF3A43D1D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lefty@ene.asda.gr) Received: by orfeas.asda.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 2B3885C6E; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:42:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from ene.asda.gr (ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ene.asda.gr", Issuer "ASDA Root CA" (verified OK)) by orfeas.asda.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9D45C51; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:42:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: by ene.asda.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 97FE11142F; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:42:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from ene.asda.gr (marsias.asda.gr [194.219.142.36]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Lefteris Tsintjelis", Issuer "ASDA Root CA" (verified OK)) by ene.asda.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867C21141E; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:42:20 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B4F7A8.87B4AEA6@ene.asda.gr> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:42:16 +0300 From: Lefteris Tsintjelis Organization: ASDA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <42B481D0.EFA31599@ene.asda.gr> <20050618203437.GA1966@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on ene.asda.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: score=-2.1 autolearn=ham tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't mount partitions with soft-updates enabled with async option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lefty@asda.gr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:42:33 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Why would you want to do that? > > Soft-updates already provides most of the benefits of an async mount plus some > extra goodies, like never leaving the filesystem in an inconsistent state. Kalimera Giorgo, For boosting io speed to the max it can get. The system is very stable (no crashes whatsover) and UPS monitored and protected so chances of having an inconsistent filesystem are very low or am I wrong? (I am refering to an async mounted filesystem) > The speed gain of mounting a squid cache as async shouldn't really be that > big, but the guarantees of avoiding data loss when a filesystem is mounted > with softupdates are too big to ignore :-) Well, that would probably depend on the requests per second but for a pretty busy squid box (disk cache is already split to a few disks) and to keep things running even more smooth and optimal, this would probably boost the io performance further more (if I understood everything right). The reason I am thinking of switching to async mode is that I am getting some physical io page faults (very small percentage compared to the requests per second but still) and I am already using the noatime option with soft-updates of course. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 05:29:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C04C16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:29:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB18343D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:29:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2643B5641F; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:29:07 +1200 (NZST) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:29:07 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Alex Zbyslaw Message-ID: <20050619052907.GA13602@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <200506181124.09562.l0kit0@exactas.org> <200506181025.25239.kirk@strauser.com> <42B46EF0.1080406@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B46EF0.1080406@dial.pipex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix or qmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:29:09 -0000 On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 07:58:56PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >Furthermore, Qmail seems to have earned its reputation for security the > >standard DJB way: by implementing only the easy parts of the standard and > >complaining loudly about the hard parts ("those are insecure!") until > >everyone quits asking for them. > > > > > DJB? QMail's author. Also the author of djb-dns. Best not to have anything to do with them. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When you don't know what you are doing, do it neatly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 05:29:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2C816A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:29:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edu07643@yahoo.com.br) Received: from web61014.mail.yahoo.com (web61014.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.179.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2C3143D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:29:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edu07643@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 33163 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2005 05:29:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=g4pPhyMMk/nf+HRk+G8VozQV9ts1nSygxH121rK9c1XIRAu8wxBu8j51a/OvraGBOzRIooaMVyVAGZGVqRBSk6oiht5d1TnK1LDri7AXKVssr8GGcc0GP+SkncEDDlWm/WpI9zBpZVIIi+kVdmq2xJZsLaqmY2Tzn1Uvk57/NvQ= ; Message-ID: <20050619052947.33160.qmail@web61014.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.86.19.170] by web61014.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 02:29:46 ART Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 02:29:46 -0300 (ART) From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Netscape? Where is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:29:48 -0000 I just updated the ports tree and now there is no netscape 7 any more! Why was it taken out of the ports tree? EJC www.only7bucks.com _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 05:31:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2829A16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:31:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D442943D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 307065641F; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:31:03 +1200 (NZST) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:31:03 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Anthony Philipp Message-ID: <20050619053103.GB13602@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050618230708.GA24179@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050618230708.GA24179@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping ports up to date on two personal machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:31:04 -0000 On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 06:07:08PM -0500, Anthony Philipp wrote: > Hello guys, > > I just have a quick question. I have two FreeBSD-5.4-p2 machines, > and instead of using cvsup on both machines to keep my ports up to > date could I just rsync /usr/ports/ from the faster machine to the > other one without any issues? I understand I could run a private > cvsup server, but for two machines this seems a little excessive. > Any suggestions or problems with this idea? It would be easier (and faster) to build the stuff on the faster machine and create packages off it to give to the slower box. Check out "pkg_create -b". Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "A person should be able to do a small bit of everything, specialisation is for insects" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 05:32:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6975016A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:32:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2677543D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:32:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B3715641F; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:32:22 +1200 (NZST) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:32:22 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: "E. J. Cerejo" Message-ID: <20050619053222.GC13602@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050619052947.33160.qmail@web61014.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050619052947.33160.qmail@web61014.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Netscape? Where is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:32:23 -0000 On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 02:29:46AM -0300, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > I just updated the ports tree and now there is no > netscape 7 any more! Why was it taken out of the > ports tree? Unmaintained. Multiple security vulnerablities. -- Jonathan Chen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 05:33:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3669116A41F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62DD43D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:33:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5J5Y7b08647; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "E. J. Cerejo" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:33:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050619052947.33160.qmail@web61014.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Netscape? Where is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:33:07 -0000 ports are removed when their maintainers lose interest, and they no longer build. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of E. J. Cerejo >Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:30 PM >To: FreeBSD Questions >Subject: Netscape? Where is it? > > >I just updated the ports tree and now there is no >netscape 7 any more! Why was it taken out of the >ports tree? > >EJC >www.only7bucks.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. >Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 05:40:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B75916A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2DB43D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:40:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so271608wri for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:40:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o9zcOyV0sO5W+qba92wz+MvCesDu2RTDhHgSeBVgmCExo84ZxpIj1FnKd6zpHFWsVbdDuepcCIDgKModpa9wZ9aAxAwtJjUJf1K/CozMAKuDHuTLA/ThIsU8GAH0o+xYvRTtmpyq1V8AmJAYEEx+gzKfmMxiqSqSIDGhXpT6i2Y= Received: by 10.54.53.25 with SMTP id b25mr1899456wra; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:40:21 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506172009.23372.kstewart@owt.com> <20050618150635.GA57905@millerlite.local.mark-and-erika.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Everett Batey Subject: Re: Advice replacing Xorg with XFree86_4 - Nightmare on Elm Street Up_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:40:22 -0000 On 6/18/05, Nikolas Britton wrote: ... > The only one I can think of right now that uses XFree86 is debian, > knoppix is based on debian. Why on earth does debian 3.1 still use the > 2.4 kernel? ... I know this is not a Debian-support forum, but you can select 2.6 kernel in Debian as the very first step of installation (press F1 instead of Enter to find out how). --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 05:54:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3984E16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:54:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA7243D53 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:54:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1DjslL1G1x-0007x3; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:54:31 +0200 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:55:34 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050619074720.V11229@www.pukruppa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Subject: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:54:33 -0000 Hi everbody, our school has just received a new HP ProLiant and I set up FreeBSD 5.4 -RELEASE with a RAID 1 system on it (using ciss driver). Is there any software tool which can show me the state of the two SCSI discs (if one is failing or if they are mirrored sorrectly) or is it sufficient to watch the little LEDs on the box? Regards, Uli. ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 07:10:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD46616A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54C543D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498085922 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92850-05 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 08F4C5906; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050619071004.08F4C5906@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-05-29 - 2005-06-18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:10:22 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 07:25:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1117016A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169BD43D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:25:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 27646 invoked by uid 207); 19 Jun 2005 07:25:20 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.139):. Processed in 1.158492 secs); 19 Jun 2005 07:25:20 -0000 Received: from dialup139.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.139]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 19 Jun 2005 07:25:17 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5J7PAov000895; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:25:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5J7P9qa000894; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:25:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:25:06 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Lefteris Tsintjelis Message-ID: <20050619072506.GA638@gothmog.gr> References: <42B481D0.EFA31599@ene.asda.gr> <20050618203437.GA1966@gothmog.gr> <42B4F7A8.87B4AEA6@ene.asda.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B4F7A8.87B4AEA6@ene.asda.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't mount partitions with soft-updates enabled with async option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:25:23 -0000 On 2005-06-19 07:42, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > Why would you want to do that? > > > > Soft-updates already provides most of the benefits of an async mount > > plus some extra goodies, like never leaving the filesystem in an > > inconsistent state. > > Kalimera Giorgo, Kalimera ;) > For boosting io speed to the max it can get. The system is very stable > (no crashes whatsover) and UPS monitored and protected so chances of > having an inconsistent filesystem are very low or am I wrong? (I am > refering to an async mounted filesystem) True. You may still find it nice to run with softupdates though. The guarantee that the filesystem will always be in a consistent state (i.e. will recover quickly whenever that may be needed) are too good to throw them away for an extra 2-3% of speed. In the "Design & Implementation" book, Kirk McKusick and George V. Neville-Neil have included the results of benchmarks between: normal, softupdates and async mounts. The number of synchronous writes in a softupdates mount was less than 0.0006% and the total running time of the benchmarks on softupdates was only 0.5% more than that of an asynchronous mount. Thus, the speed gain of doing a fully asynchronous mount may not be worth the potential trouble. >> The speed gain of mounting a squid cache as async shouldn't really be that >> big, but the guarantees of avoiding data loss when a filesystem is mounted >> with softupdates are too big to ignore :-) > Well, that would probably depend on the requests per second but for a pretty > busy squid box (disk cache is already split to a few disks) and to keep things > running even more smooth and optimal, this would probably boost the io > performance further more (if I understood everything right). Maybe. But would the performance gain be big enough to justify losing the stability and filesystem consistency that softupdates provide? Judging by the numbers presented in the "Design & Implementation of FreeBSD" book, it seems that any performance gain of going fully async wouldn't be that big. > The reason I am thinking of switching to async mode is that I am getting > some physical io page faults (very small percentage compared to the > requests per second but still) and I am already using the noatime option > with soft-updates of course. Squid is such a memory hungry beast that I wouldn't worry about a small percentage of page faults caused by softupdates. The proxy itself is probably causing a hell of a lot more page faults as it maps cache files or as it recycles cache entries :-) Are you absolutely sure it's softupdates that is causing these extra page faults? (Which *may* be true, because of the extra memory softupdates need, in order to operate. But how can you tell?) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 07:27:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D53E16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305C643D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so271232wri for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:27:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tZWJpfuoCekW/8ZkWGq9NFPZivFDd4+BfGc7iHDX6UKX10JA0OkYImybbAKidaqTDxzjwO/7eNe/tpsI0HJ2PYiBxd9wXjn+zTAYfE4eMQyoKuSw/D26LtsMja8+fB9xAFWYytO0HUuSlJ70dIB64UBpvSHz/b7MleKn8rseZUI= Received: by 10.54.56.77 with SMTP id e77mr1915753wra; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:27:10 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Tuc at T-B-O-H In-Reply-To: <200506162242.j5GMgf6b000808@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506162242.j5GMgf6b000808@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:27:11 -0000 On 6/17/05, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Ever since I upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15, I've started to run int= o > problems... All of a sudden, anything I do results in a Segfault. Someti= mes > I'll get : >=20 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol t= able Is there a more or less reliable way to reproduce this? What should I run to try to reproduce this? --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 08:42:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C47416A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:42:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lefty@ene.asda.gr) Received: from orfeas.asda.gr (orfeas.asda.gr [194.219.142.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2350243D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:42:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lefty@ene.asda.gr) Received: by orfeas.asda.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 0448E5C60; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:42:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from ene.asda.gr (ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ene.asda.gr", Issuer "ASDA Root CA" (verified OK)) by orfeas.asda.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95F65C52; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:42:42 +0300 (EEST) Received: by ene.asda.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 20EDA1142F; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:42:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from ene.asda.gr (marsias.asda.gr [194.219.142.36]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Lefteris Tsintjelis", Issuer "ASDA Root CA" (verified OK)) by ene.asda.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E2A1141E; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:42:31 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B52FF2.B1996C00@ene.asda.gr> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:42:26 +0300 From: Lefteris Tsintjelis Organization: ASDA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <42B481D0.EFA31599@ene.asda.gr> <20050618203437.GA1966@gothmog.gr> <42B4F7A8.87B4AEA6@ene.asda.gr> <20050619072506.GA638@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on ene.asda.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: score=-2.8 autolearn=ham tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't mount partitions with soft-updates enabled with async option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lefty@asda.gr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:42:46 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Squid is such a memory hungry beast that I wouldn't worry about a small > percentage of page faults caused by softupdates. The proxy itself is > probably causing a hell of a lot more page faults as it maps cache files > or as it recycles cache entries :-) You are very right about this one. > Are you absolutely sure it's softupdates that is causing these extra > page faults? (Which *may* be true, because of the extra memory > softupdates need, in order to operate. But how can you tell?) Well, according to squid the page faults were due to physical writes but I can't tell for sure yet. I guess I can try and test it and see what happens. If the percentages are that small then it most definitely isn't worth the trouble at all. My estimated guess was that the numbers would have been greater than just 2-3%. Knowing though how easily an async file system can corrupt, is there the slightest chance this could happen under normal but heavy usage? Thank you all for the responses, Lefteris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 11:01:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114DF16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:01:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F5343D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:00:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:01:39 +0100 Message-ID: <42B5506A.8020608@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:00:58 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc at T-B-O-H References: <200506162242.j5GMgf6b000808@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2005 11:01:39.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[44DF72B0:01C574BE] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:01:01 -0000 On 6/17/05, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: >>Hi, >> >> Ever since I upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15, I've started to run into >>problems... All of a sudden, anything I do results in a Segfault. Sometimes >>I'll get : >> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol table >> >> Are you sure you rebuilt and re-installed both your kernel and your world? If they are out of sync, that can cause unusual problems. If you have upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15 why not just upgrade to 5.4-RELEASE-p*? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 11:28:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFFE16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:28:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAE343D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:28:56 +0100 Message-ID: <42B556CE.6020103@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:28:14 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "P.U.Kruppa" References: <20050619074720.V11229@www.pukruppa.net> In-Reply-To: <20050619074720.V11229@www.pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2005 11:28:56.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[14596ED0:01C574C2] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:28:17 -0000 P.U.Kruppa wrote: > our school has just received a new HP ProLiant and I set up FreeBSD > 5.4 -RELEASE with a RAID 1 system on it (using ciss driver). > Is there any software tool which can show me the state of the two SCSI > discs (if one is failing or if they are mirrored sorrectly) or is it > sufficient to watch the little LEDs on the box? That's a good question, and I only have a partial answer for you. You can look at sysutils/smartmontools port which will show you the SMART status for the disks that it can see. If you can see both disks (which I *think* would have devices like /dev/sd0, /dev/sd1) then you ought to know if the disks are failing. SCSI disks, from my limited experience, don't show as much info as ATA disks, but so far both Quantum and Fujitsu do seem to have supported SMART at a basic level. You should be able to tell what FreeBSD can see in the way of disks by examining /var/run/dmesg.boot. A word of caution, though. A Linux system (which I help administer) had two SCSI disks mounted as RAID-1 through some kind of Adaptec controller. Recently the machine crashed and it transpires that one of the disks hadn't been written to since 2002! I am told that the bootup screen showed the RAID-1 as working, and Linux could *only* see one virtual disk -- the supposed RAID mirror. So, I think your question is a very good one! We had (apparently) no way of knowing what was going on. The machine crashed with no messages whatsoever, after losing all access to its disks, and there was no indication that RAID-1 was not functioning. I *think* that the RAID controller should spot when a disk is failing and notify you (through its driver) through console messages and /var/log/messages. I too would love an answer to this question for any decent SCSI controller under FreeBSD (e.g. Dell PowerEdge 2850 with PERC 4e/Di RAID controller). Can you, in general, see through the RAID controller to monitor individual disks? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 12:14:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E87416A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:14:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2DC43D53 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:14:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 7506 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2005 12:14:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.58.23]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jun 2005 12:14:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:15:06 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050619141506.1222993f@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3G file burns to -514M file on DVD-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:14:56 -0000 "Andrew L. Gould" wrote: > I have a gzip'd database backup file that's 3GB in size. I used mkisofs > to create an iso image for burning to a DVD-R. Both the mkisofs and > growisofs process appeared to finish successfully; but 'ls -alh' shows > the resulting file to be -514M in size when the DVD-R is mounted in > FreeBSD 4.10. When I mount the dvd in a separate FreeBSD 5.4 system, > ls -alh results in 'ls: /cdrom/pgdumpall.gz: Value too large to be > stored in data type'. I ftp'd the original 3GB file from the FreeBSD > 4.10 system to the FreeBSD 5.4 system. ls -alh reads the size of the > original file correctly. > > Windows reads the DVD-R and shows the file size correctly. > > I've tried recreating the iso image using -r and -l options and burning > the iso file with and without the -dvd-compat option; but the results > remain the same. > > Any ideas or advice? Split your backup file before creating the iso. At the moment FreeBSD can't handle big files on isofs. If I remember correctly, big means > 1 GB, but I'm not sure. You should still be able to extract the file with isoinfo from the cdrtools port. Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 14:07:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C9616A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:07:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@suscom.net) Received: from smtp2.suscom.net (smtp2.suscom.net [64.78.83.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B7943D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:07:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@suscom.net) Received: from localhost (smtp2.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4651CDD52 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 05377-06 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Gerard (ip47.232.susc.suscom.net [216.45.232.47]) by smtp2.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 314F51CDD6E for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:07:00 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: X-X-Sender: beerstud@spamcop.net@mail.cesmail.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: Configuring Apache with DynDNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gerard Seibert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:07:13 -0000 I am attempting to get Apache to work on my computer. My ISM only supplies me with a dynamic IP as well as blocking of port 80. I am using DynDNS to try and circumvent that situation. My knowledge of how to accomplish this quite frankly stinks. Even using a copy of O'Reilly's Apache has not helped me much. If anyone has a similar type of setup, I would appreciate them contacting me directly. I can supply all of my configuration files for them to look at. I am probably just doing something really stupid but I lack the knowledge to figure it out on my own. Thanks! -- Gerard Seibert gerard-seibert@suscom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 14:58:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2157C16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:58:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmiuser@m-net.arbornet.org) Received: from arbornet.org (m-net.arbornet.org [64.9.205.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0F343D5C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmiuser@m-net.arbornet.org) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (wmiuser@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arbornet.org (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j5JF22nH089966 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:02:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wmiuser@m-net.arbornet.org) Received: (from wmiuser@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.12.3p2/8.12.3/Submit) id j5JF22Nu089965 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:02:01 -0400 From: Wolfgang Lausenbart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050619110201.A87080@m-net.arbornet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: matching tos 0x0 with ipfw2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:58:02 -0000 Hi List, I'am trying to match 0x0 (Normal Service) with ipfw iptos [TOS-Value] as far as I can see one can only use names to refer to, as reliabilty, congestion .. but the tag normal or normal-service does not exist. background is, that I want to stop nmap from scanning my radius server. Noticed that nmap sends with tos 0x0. shall I switch to pf now? best regards ; wmiuser/u@netbeisser.de -- E7AC 1E9B 87D8 5BD2 E2F2 6F4A 3177 ED68 8185 480C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 15:02:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF5A16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:02:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mirya@matrix.ua) Received: from relay2.sitel.com.ua (houp.sitel.com.ua [217.27.144.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB6543D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:02:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mirya@matrix.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay2.sitel.com.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1697F4590C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:02:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay2.sitel.com.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (houp.sitel.com.ua [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 19244-09 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:02:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [217.27.146.53] (dialup-146.53.sitel.com.ua [217.27.146.53]) by relay2.sitel.com.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9787C45911 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:02:36 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B58922.1060601@matrix.ua> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:02:58 +0300 From: Kyryll A Mirnenko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sitel.com.ua Subject: broken threads in qt33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:02:48 -0000 Need an expert view on the problem: 1) got 5.3 w/ qt33 from ports working ok 2) moving to 5.4 -> all threaded qt apps start producing "Mutex init failure" (src/tools/qmutex_unix.cpp in qt33 srcs) on initialization & aborting 3) ok, recompiled the port -> the apps are strarting ok, but fail on run for different reason: a) most of 'em (e.g. KDE games, kmail) abort w/ message: "Fatal error 'Recurse on a private mutex.' at line 988 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_mutex.c (errno = 0) Abort trap (core dumped)" b)`gwenview` produces endless flow of "Wait condition wait failure: Invalid argument" messages when trying to scroll its directory listing when it creates thumbnails c) `uic` just hangs up somewhere in endless waiting eating up all the CPU time (no messages) I've made a simple dump of what `kgoldrunner` does w/ 'em & see it calling: - QRealMutexPrivate::QRealMutexPrivate(true) // creates recursive mutex - then two locks on that mutex - assert in pthread.so - as you can see from the sources the assertion is rased when mutex has MUTEX_FLAGS_PRIVATE flag set - the problem is that flag seems to be never set in qt sources qt33 is compiled WITH_KDE_PATCHES, but that seems not to be the reason :). Here's .qmake.cache created after configuration stage: CONFIG += nocrosscompiler dlopen_opengl minimal-config small-config medium-config large-config full-config styles tools kernel widgets dialogs iconview workspace net work canvas table xml opengl sql release dll thread largefile stl ipv6 system-mng mng system-jpeg jpeg system-png png gif system-zlib cups nas bigcodecs x11sm xshape xinerama xcursor xrandr xrender xftfreetype tablet xkb dylib create_prl link_prl QMAKESPEC = /usr/local/share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++ QT_SOURCE_TREE = /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4 QT_BUILD_TREE = /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4 QMAKE_ABSOLUTE_SOURCE_ROOT = $$QT_SOURCE_TREE QT_PRODUCT=qt-free styles += windows motif mac platinum sgi cde motifplus kbd-drivers += tty mouse-drivers += pc QMAKE_MOC=/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/bin/moc QMAKE_UIC=/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/bin/uic -L $$QT_BUILD_TREE/plugins QMAKE_QMAKE=/usr/local/bin/qmake QMAKE_MOC_SRC=/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/src/moc INCLUDEPATH+=/usr/local/include/freetype2 QMAKE_LIBS_X11=-lXft -lfreetype -lfontconfig $$QMAKE_LIBS_X11 QMAKE_INCDIR_QT=/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/include QMAKE_LIBDIR_QT=/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/lib QMAKE_RTLDIR_QT=/usr/X11R6/lib OBJECTS_DIR=.obj/release-shared-mt MOC_DIR=.moc/release-shared-mt QMAKE_LIBS_QT+=-lmng QMAKE_LIBS_QT_THREAD+=-lmng QMAKE_LIBS_QT+=-ljpeg QMAKE_LIBS_QT_THREAD+=-ljpeg QMAKE_LIBS_QT+=-lpng QMAKE_LIBS_QT_THREAD+=-lpng QMAKE_LIBS_QT+=-lz QMAKE_LIBS_QT_THREAD+=-lz QMAKE_LIBS_X11 = -lXinerama $$QMAKE_LIBS_X11 QMAKE_LIBS_X11 = -lXcursor $$QMAKE_LIBS_X11 QMAKE_LIBS_X11 = -lXrandr $$QMAKE_LIBS_X11 QMAKE_LIBS_X11 = -lXrender $$QMAKE_LIBS_X11 QMAKE_LIBS_X11 = -lXi $$QMAKE_LIBS_X11 QMAKE_LIBDIR_FLAGS+= -L/usr/local/lib INCPATH+=/usr/local/include QT_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/X11R6 docs.path=/usr/X11R6/share/doc/qt headers.path=/usr/X11R6/include plugins.path=/usr/X11R6/lib/plugins libs.path=/usr/X11R6/lib bins.path=/usr/X11R6/bin data.path=/usr/X11R6/share/qt translations.path=/usr/X11R6/translations QMAKE_CFLAGS+=-fno-exceptions QMAKE_CXXFLAGS+=-fno-exceptions QMAKE_LFLAGS+=-fno-exceptions /etc/make.conf contains: WITH_DEBUG=no WITH_DROPSHADOW=yes CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march=pentium2 COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march=pentium2 NO_CPU_CFLAGS=true NO_COPT_CFLAGS=true /etc/libmap.conf is: libc_r.so.5 libpthread.so.1 libc_r.so libpthread.so If need more info, more experiment results, reply From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 15:22:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D61A16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:22:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [216.194.67.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBEF43D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:22:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (pcp01267574pcs.danbry01.ct.comcast.net [68.63.157.203]) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D115C3D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from winbloat (unknown [10.0.0.41]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2091050ED for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200506191122500702.00A479A6@sentry.24cl.com> In-Reply-To: <42B46EF0.1080406@dial.pipex.com> References: <200506181124.09562.l0kit0@exactas.org> <200506181025.25239.kirk@strauser.com> <42B46EF0.1080406@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:22:50 -0400 From: "MikeM" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: Re: postfix or qmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:22:52 -0000 On 6/18/2005 at 7:58 PM Alex Zbyslaw wrote: |Kirk Strauser wrote: | |>My choice is Postfix. It's still under active development and |>isn't hampered by bizarre licensing and enormous egos. |> |> |Active development has to be the killer argument. Who wants to |rely on software that no-one cares enough about to develop |properly? ============= Another reason in favor of Postfix -- the Postfix user support mailing list is excellent. qmail support mailing list is less than helpful. http://www.postfix.org/lists.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 15:27:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6269916A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:27:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB79043D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:27:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML29c-1Dk1hp36nc-0006zS; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:27:29 +0200 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:30:34 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <42B556CE.6020103@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: <20050619172826.K11229@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20050619074720.V11229@www.pukruppa.net> <42B556CE.6020103@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:27:32 -0000 On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > P.U.Kruppa wrote: > >> our school has just received a new HP ProLiant and I set up FreeBSD 5.4 >> -RELEASE with a RAID 1 system on it (using ciss driver). >> Is there any software tool which can show me the state of the two SCSI >> discs (if one is failing or if they are mirrored sorrectly) or is it >> sufficient to watch the little LEDs on the box? > > That's a good question, and I only have a partial answer for you. You can > look at sysutils/smartmontools port which will show you the SMART status for > the disks that it can see. If you can see both disks (which I *think* would > have devices like /dev/sd0, /dev/sd1) then you ought to know if the disks are > failing. SCSI disks, from my limited experience, don't show as much info as > ATA disks, but so far both Quantum and Fujitsu do seem to have supported > SMART at a basic level. You should be able to tell what FreeBSD can see in > the way of disks by examining /var/run/dmesg.boot. > > A word of caution, though. A Linux system (which I help administer) had two > SCSI disks mounted as RAID-1 through some kind of Adaptec controller. > Recently the machine crashed and it transpires that one of the disks hadn't > been written to since 2002! I am told that the bootup screen showed the > RAID-1 as working, and Linux could *only* see one virtual disk -- the > supposed RAID mirror. So, I think your question is a very good one! We had > (apparently) no way of knowing what was going on. The machine crashed with no > messages whatsoever, after losing all access to its disks, and there was no > indication that RAID-1 was not functioning. > > I *think* that the RAID controller should spot when a disk is failing and > notify you (through its driver) through console messages and > /var/log/messages. I too would love an answer to this question for any > decent SCSI controller under FreeBSD (e.g. Dell PowerEdge 2850 with PERC > 4e/Di RAID controller). Can you, in general, see through the RAID controller > to monitor individual disks? No, the HP manual says one can check the disks via some sort of LED blinking code. But I have no experience with that, since it is a new machine. Uli. > > --Alex > > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 15:28:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3103C16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from espinafre@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24A243D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:28:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from espinafre@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so361846wra for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=j5WqamGD9q3y6myOj08Wz3hNE4wPbWAe9UJu8eIw7D/lqjLdKWSskeCxkREA3+qPdLarhbWIFnMSK8o0xDjqwZlrzlOtp9FhJ5dW/VWMrMn2aLgEwmZCjGGOkM5UxCn/OsAgHz7EeJsBvktAjAqx7ufKSpeaqnicw0LANwg6qp4= Received: by 10.54.39.1 with SMTP id m1mr2045897wrm; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.2.45 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5ef8c2f00506190828d6cb240@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:28:13 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_de_Paula_Rodrigues?= To: FreeBSD-Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: CURRENT buildworld woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_de_Paula_Rodrigues?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:28:16 -0000 Greetings all, I have an annoying problem when trying to build world: make depend complains about not finding a certain unwind.h, when compiling libstdc++. My CC in make.conf is set to gcc, my CXX is set to g++, CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS are both empty (both in make.conf and in my environment). It doesn't matter whether I do a make clean or not, if I rm -fr /usr/obj or not, I'm always getting this error, no matter what. uname -a: FreeBSD luna.pinguim 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #3: Sat Jun 4 00:21:04 BRT 2005 root@luna.pinguim:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LUNA=20 i386 command issued: make buildworld KERNCONF=3DLUNA last few lines of output: CC=3D'gcc' mkdep -f .depend -a /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../con= trib/li bstdc++/src/allocator.cc /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstd= c++/s rc/codecvt.cc /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/src/com= plex_ io.cc /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/src/ctype.cc /u= sr/sr c/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/src/debug.cc /usr/src/gnu/li= b/lib stdc++/../../. In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++= /libs upc++/eh_alloc.cc:37: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/libsupc++/unwind-cxx.= h:41: 20: unwind.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++= /libs upc++/eh_aux_runtime.cc:34: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/libsupc++/unwind-cxx.= h:41: 20: unwind.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++= /libs upc++/eh_catch.cc:32: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/libsupc++/unwind-cxx.= h:41: 20: unwind.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++= /libs upc++/eh_exception.cc:34: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/libsupc++/unwind-cxx.= h:41: 20: unwind.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++= /libs upc++/eh_globals.cc:33: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/libsupc++/unwind-cxx.= h:41: 20: unwind.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++= /libs upc++/eh_personality.cc:34: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/libsupc++/unwind-cxx.= h:41: 20: unwind.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. This is it; if you want, I have the complete log for the buildworld, won't post it here because it is 1.8 MB. Oh, by the way, unwind.h IS there, in /usr/src/contrib/gcc/unwind.h. Anyone with this problem? Any known fix/workaround? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 15:38:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B921816A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:38:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0DA43D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:38:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (24-53-250-148.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.53.250.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0C369A21 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:38:49 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050619113849.3ae5cbad.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Detailed logging of ssh sessions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:38:51 -0000 I've been researching this, and so far haven't found a way to do what I want to do. I have servers here and there, that should only be accessible by a limited number of administrators via ssh (i.e. mail and web servers, firewalls). As an added security measure, I'd like to start logging everything that happens during any ssh login (since all our work on these machines is via ssh). I understand, and frequently use script(1), but I want this to be required. I have two goals: 1) If someone manages to guess a password and break in, I want a log of what they're doing. 2) I want 100% guarantee that everything we do is recorded, to make future debugging of configuration mistakes easier. I've been researching sshd, and it doesn't seem as if it has this capability. Web searches have not yet turned up anything ... I'm guessing I'm not searching for the right phrases, since I can't believe I'm the only one doing this. Any advice or pointers are welcome. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 16:18:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F39116A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:18:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnjawed@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B3B43D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:18:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnjawed@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so292839wri for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:18:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Sp9sp+vL30hKjTsnzwuKPiGCFBGaX+fYxZRc3ICm1ahKEZI26zNlw05h+j3oGbyzNUvRCVR9KQnd1Qxotd5VXLhPCe9sljzbRWTGbI4Oc5/Vm95TvXzdZlFcX8onPMSWR8JcUD+sqyk/vH62QRA2IyzcHc3XL27QELMmXD9Ziig= Received: by 10.54.34.4 with SMTP id h4mr2061114wrh; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.132.10 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:18:19 -0700 From: John Jawed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Odd ATI + Xorg behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Jawed List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:18:20 -0000 I've spent about 3 days trying everything I could think of getting my setup= =20 to work. I have 3 monitors, one CRT, and 2 LCD's. The 2 LCD's are hooked=20 into my AGP ATI Radeon 9800 PRO via the DVI and CRT slots. My CRT is hooked= =20 up via my Nvidia 440 PCI card. What I was hoping to achieve was one desktop that spanned all three screens= .=20 I am having issues with the LCD's on my ATI card. Basically, they end up=20 looking like this: http://www.johnjawed.com/abstract/Screenshot-1.png Now, I know it is not a hardware issue, because in Windows, there is no=20 distortion or artifacting. Here is my xorg.conf as well: http://www.johnjawed.com/abstract/xorg.conf Regards, john From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 16:29:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A80916A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:29:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A09E43D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:29:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 20018 invoked by uid 207); 19 Jun 2005 16:29:01 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.241):. Processed in 0.867174 secs); 19 Jun 2005 16:29:01 -0000 Received: from dialup241.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.241]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 19 Jun 2005 16:28:59 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5JGSuUc000976; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:28:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5JGSuCM000975; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:28:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:28:56 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jose de Paula Rodrigues Message-ID: <20050619162856.GD631@gothmog.gr> References: <5ef8c2f00506190828d6cb240@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5ef8c2f00506190828d6cb240@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT buildworld woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:29:03 -0000 On 2005-06-19 12:28, Jos? de Paula Rodrigues wrote: > Greetings all, > > I have an annoying problem when trying to build world: make depend > complains about not finding a certain unwind.h, when compiling > libstdc++. If this is truly a problem you're having on FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT, then freebsd-questions is not the right list to ask. You should post any messages related to -CURRENT to the freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list instead. > My CC in make.conf is set to gcc, my CXX is set to g++, CFLAGS and > CXXFLAGS are both empty (both in make.conf and in my environment). It > doesn't matter whether I do a make clean or not, if I rm -fr /usr/obj > or not, I'm always getting this error, no matter what. My CC and CXX are not set __anywhere__ at all. Having said that, I *did* complete a buildworld successfully today: % gothmog:/usr/src# head -5 logfile % FX --- 2005-06-19 10:54:17.270884 - ::::: Updating the sources from CVS. % FX --- 2005-06-19 10:54:18.078551 - ? logfile % FX --- 2005-06-19 10:56:45.120162 - M contrib/top/top.c % FX --- 2005-06-19 10:59:40.091001 - M sys/boot/common/interp.c % FX --- 2005-06-19 10:59:40.134665 - M sys/boot/common/interp_forth.c % gothmog:/usr/src# tail -5 logfile % FX --- 2005-06-19 13:54:48.125728 - ld -Bshareable -d -warn-common -o if_xl.ko.debug if_xl.kld % FX --- 2005-06-19 13:54:48.151411 - objcopy --strip-debug if_xl.ko.debug if_xl.ko % FX --- 2005-06-19 13:54:48.175117 - -------------------------------------------------------------- % FX --- 2005-06-19 13:54:48.228413 - >>> Kernel build for GOTHMOG completed on Sun Jun 19 13:54:48 EEST 2005 % FX --- 2005-06-19 13:54:48.234743 - -------------------------------------------------------------- So, at least until this morning, CURRENT would build fine. Are you sure your CC/CXX or other make.conf settings are not causing you trouble? (The best way to determine this is to run a buildworld without any make.conf file at all.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 16:33:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2A416A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [65.125.228.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A8243D53 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (danm@localhost.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5JGXWT8059960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5JGXVd9059959; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:33:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050619123123.B59187@prime.gushi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: bundled openssh version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:33:13 -0000 Hey all, couple quick questions. ' Is freeBSD ever going to update the "contributed" version of openssh to something more recent? I'm particularly interested in the DNS SSHFP support, and I'm unsure of the differences between the "base" version, the one in ports, and the "portable" version in ports, as far as what functionality I would gain/lose. -Dan -- "You recreate the stars in the sky with cows?" -Furrball, March 7 2005, on Katamari Damacy --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 17:05:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E773016A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:05:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philipp1@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu) Received: from zeus.itg.uiuc.edu (zeus.itg.uiuc.edu [130.126.126.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B319843D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:05:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philipp1@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu) Received: from zeus.itg.uiuc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.itg.uiuc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JH5lui008409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:05:47 -0500 Received: (from philipp1@localhost) by zeus.itg.uiuc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j5JH5lvM008407 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:05:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:05:47 -0500 From: Anthony Philipp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050619170546.GA8198@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu> References: <20050618230708.GA24179@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu> <20050618231358.GB9438@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050618231358.GB9438@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: keeping ports up to date on two personal machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:05:48 -0000 On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 02:13:58AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-06-18 18:07, Anthony Philipp wrote: > > Hello guys, > > > > I just have a quick question. I have two FreeBSD-5.4-p2 machines, > > and instead of using cvsup on both machines to keep my ports up to > > date could I just rsync /usr/ports/ from the faster machine to the > > other one without any issues? > > Certainly. Just make you don't synchronize work/ subdirectories too, > if they contain prebuilt binaries that don't match the setup of the > destination machine. You mean the work directories such as /usr/ports/net/gaim/work? Or did you mean a different work directory? Anthony Philipp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 17:08:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AAD16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philipp1@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu) Received: from zeus.itg.uiuc.edu (zeus.itg.uiuc.edu [130.126.126.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00D743D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philipp1@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu) Received: from zeus.itg.uiuc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.itg.uiuc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JH80a5008467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:08:00 -0500 Received: (from philipp1@localhost) by zeus.itg.uiuc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j5JH80mN008465 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:08:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:08:00 -0500 From: Anthony Philipp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050619170800.GB8198@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu> References: <20050618230708.GA24179@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu> <20050619053103.GB13602@osiris.chen.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050619053103.GB13602@osiris.chen.org.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: keeping ports up to date on two personal machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:08:01 -0000 On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 05:31:03PM +1200, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 06:07:08PM -0500, Anthony Philipp wrote: > > Hello guys, > > > > I just have a quick question. I have two FreeBSD-5.4-p2 machines, > > and instead of using cvsup on both machines to keep my ports up to > > date could I just rsync /usr/ports/ from the faster machine to the > > other one without any issues? I understand I could run a private > > cvsup server, but for two machines this seems a little excessive. > > Any suggestions or problems with this idea? > > It would be easier (and faster) to build the stuff on the faster machine > and create packages off it to give to the slower box. > > Check out "pkg_create -b". > Alright I will keep this in mind. Thanks for the tip. Anthony Philipp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 17:41:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DE216A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:41:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4E743D1D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:41:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5JHj9hU032594 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:45:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5JHj9H4032593 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:45:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:45:09 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050619174509.GA32544@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: postfix, ubuntu+postfix and FBSD+sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:41:03 -0000 People, This is one reason that I don't want to switch to postfix (or any other "more secure" MTA). So far I have figured out most things on ubuntu linux--(Debian based). I can get mail *out* from any acct; but not in. According to my sendmail /var/log/maillog, the connection is refused: Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3qGbQ035034: to=, delay=4+13:26:14, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=22800576, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3rm4u035037: to=, delay=4+13:24:45, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=22890920, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. Is there any Postfix "allow" file that is causing this ``Connection refused'' log entry? Anybody have any clues? thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 18:06:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3144E16A432 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:06:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from espinafre@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751B143E42 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:01:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from espinafre@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so407998wri for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K6KWBP8uwlG4FTOFFHSZcooMpk2zidWBDJFKDQDC6JsoWzx5TUQ0A3Lqny18H5XfATPiVvxsyR2vxiOpColJ+fBjJzvIUYZj5JPhwufjoCdoJZGp+kQKqYpPofvAwZOSpBFxCHOJLmqf/etAIBApxuiZ8C4/OD3phkJYPgY4xEI= Received: by 10.54.56.77 with SMTP id e77mr2084919wra; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.2.45 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5ef8c2f0050619110138fbe78b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:01:12 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_de_Paula_Rodrigues?= To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050619162856.GD631@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <5ef8c2f00506190828d6cb240@mail.gmail.com> <20050619162856.GD631@gothmog.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT buildworld woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_de_Paula_Rodrigues?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:06:04 -0000 On 6/19/05, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-06-19 12:28, Jos? de Paula Rodrigues wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > I have an annoying problem when trying to build world: make depend > > complains about not finding a certain unwind.h, when compiling > > libstdc++. > So, at least until this morning, CURRENT would build fine. >=20 > Are you sure your CC/CXX or other make.conf settings are not causing you > trouble? (The best way to determine this is to run a buildworld without > any make.conf file at all.) >=20 I renamed /etc/make.conf and tried again, and... it built! Yes, there must be something in my make.conf that buildworld doesn't like much (I have no idea what it would be), thanks for the hint! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 19:14:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FC116A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388BB43D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A54515641F; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:14:51 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:14:51 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20050619191451.GB15438@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050619174509.GA32544@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050619174509.GA32544@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: postfix, ubuntu+postfix and FBSD+sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:14:53 -0000 On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 10:45:09AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > People, > > This is one reason that I don't want to switch to postfix > (or any other "more secure" MTA). So far I have figured > out most things on ubuntu linux--(Debian based). I can get > mail *out* from any acct; but not in. According to my > sendmail /var/log/maillog, the connection is refused: > > > Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3qGbQ035034: > to=, delay=4+13:26:14, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=relay, pri=22800576, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. > Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3rm4u035037: > to=, delay=4+13:24:45, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=relay, pri=22890920, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. A connection refused means that the outgoing box doesn't think there's a socket listening on the receiving end. Have you made sure that: 1. postfix is running? 2. no firewall blocks in place? 3. "inet_interfaces = all" in Postix's main.cf? Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Vini, vidi, velcro... I came, I saw, I stuck around From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 19:22:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F047116A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD76343D1D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9873 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dk5NB-000Ota-AM; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:22:25 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2EA1545E9; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:30:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CCE58CC29; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:22:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:22:23 +0200 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Jonathan Chen Message-Id: <20050619212223.0b43b89f.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050619191451.GB15438@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050619174509.GA32544@thought.org> <20050619191451.GB15438@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: postfix, ubuntu+postfix and FBSD+sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:22:27 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:14:51 +1200 Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 10:45:09AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > People, > > > > This is one reason that I don't want to switch to postfix > > (or any other "more secure" MTA). So far I have figured > > out most things on ubuntu linux--(Debian based). I can get > > mail *out* from any acct; but not in. According to my > > sendmail /var/log/maillog, the connection is refused: > > > > > > Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3qGbQ035034: > > to=, delay=4+13:26:14, xdelay=00:00:00, > > mailer=relay, pri=22800576, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, > > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. > > Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3rm4u035037: > > to=, delay=4+13:24:45, xdelay=00:00:00, > > mailer=relay, pri=22890920, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, > > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. > > A connection refused means that the outgoing box doesn't think > there's a socket listening on the receiving end. Have you made sure > that: > > 1. postfix is running? > 2. no firewall blocks in place? > 3. "inet_interfaces = all" in Postix's main.cf? from the posting it's not so clear to me that the poster is running postfix on FreeBSD and/or ubuntu ? if the latter only, then i'd like to add that in ubuntu warty (not sure about hoary), the postfix master.cf was by default configured to accept only mail from localhost From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 19:23:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC42E16A41F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D7643D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:23:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Dk5Ia-0002U3-Bp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:17:40 +0200 Received: from r4ae106.chello.upc.cz ([84.42.158.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:17:40 +0200 Received: from element by r4ae106.chello.upc.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:17:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pavel Duda Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:22:43 +0200 Lines: 359 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050308010404010608000800" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: r4ae106.chello.upc.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041103 Thunderbird/0.9 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Sender: news Subject: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:23:50 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050308010404010608000800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on it but not read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape drive hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. Does somebody have experience with this ? My specs : FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 and tape drive Python 04106. I'm attaching dmesg output. Thanks for any advice.... 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post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dk6Ep-0005zQ-8D; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:17:51 +0000 Message-ID: <42B5D2FF.4030807@reston.demon.nl> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:18:07 +0200 From: Yuri van Overmeeren User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Jawed , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Odd ATI + Xorg behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:17:52 -0000 John Jawed wrote: >I've spent about 3 days trying everything I could think of getting my setup >to work. I have 3 monitors, one CRT, and 2 LCD's. The 2 LCD's are hooked >into my AGP ATI Radeon 9800 PRO via the DVI and CRT slots. My CRT is hooked >up via my Nvidia 440 PCI card. > >What I was hoping to achieve was one desktop that spanned all three screens. >I am having issues with the LCD's on my ATI card. Basically, they end up >looking like this: > >http://www.johnjawed.com/abstract/Screenshot-1.png > >Now, I know it is not a hardware issue, because in Windows, there is no >distortion or artifacting. Here is my xorg.conf as well: > >http://www.johnjawed.com/abstract/xorg.conf > >Regards, >john >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > The screenshot looks like a memory problem, since it's not hardware it could be a bug in the driver (something's writing to wrong mem locations/corrupting it?) Xorg.conf seems ok, have you tried using only Ati dual displays and not using the nvidia card/driver, maybe we can narrow it down to a problem between the two drivers. good luck :) yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 20:18:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A091016A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:18:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ianb@opteqint.net) Received: from kalypso.opteqint.net (kalypso.opteqint.net [160.124.112.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791E943D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ianb@opteqint.net) Received: from tbnb-165-207-94.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.207.94] helo=ianb) by kalypso.opteqint.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dk6F6-000Lk3-8R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:18:15 +0200 From: "Ian Barnes" To: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:18:18 +0200 Organization: Opteq International MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcV1DAfb/03Tq+DdSL+TXfiKpsY6QA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -100.0 (---------------------------------------------------) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "kalypso.opteqint.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi, I am trying to install x.org onto my 5.4stable box. In /usr/ports/x11/xorg I typed make install and I get this error after a while (It's a long error): [...] Content analysis details: (-100.0 points, 4.2 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list Message-Id: <20050619201817.791E943D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Problem installing x.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:18:18 -0000 Hi, I am trying to install x.org onto my 5.4stable box. In /usr/ports/x11/xorg I typed make install and I get this error after a while (It's a long error): making Makefiles in include/bitmaps... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/include. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in include/extensions... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/include. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in include/fonts... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/include. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in include/GL... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/include. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in include/DPS... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/include. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/xtrans... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xau... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xdmcp... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/X11... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/oldX... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/ICE... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/SM... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xext... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xt... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xss... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xxf86misc... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xxf86vm... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xxf86dga... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xmu... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xmuu... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xpm... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xp... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/XprintUtil... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/XprintAppUtil... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xaw6... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xaw7... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xaw... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xi... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xtst... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/FS... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/xkbfile... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/xkbui... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/lbxutil... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xv... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/GL... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/GLU... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/GLw... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/dps... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/dpstk... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/psres... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xinerama... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xrender... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/XvMC... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xrandr... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/XTrap... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/XRes... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xcursor... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xevie... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xfixes... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xdamage... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/Xcomposite... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/font... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib/fontenc... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/lib. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in nls/XLC_LOCALE... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/nls. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in nls/Compose... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/nls. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in nls/XI18N_OBJS... imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/nls. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop + mkdir -p /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/exports/include/X11 + cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/exports/include/X11 + rm -f DECkeysym.h + ln -s ../../../include/DECkeysym.h . + rm -f HPkeysym.h + ln -s ../../../include/HPkeysym.h . + rm -f Sunkeysym.h + ln -s ../../../include/Sunkeysym.h . + rm -f X.h + ln -s ../../../include/X.h . + rm -f XF86keysym.h + ln -s ../../../include/XF86keysym.h . + rm -f XWDFile.h + ln -s ../../../include/XWDFile.h . + rm -f Xalloca.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xalloca.h . + rm -f Xarch.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xarch.h . + rm -f Xatom.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xatom.h . + rm -f Xdefs.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xdefs.h . + rm -f Xfuncproto.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xfuncproto.h . + rm -f Xfuncs.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xfuncs.h . + rm -f Xmd.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xmd.h . + rm -f Xos.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xos.h . + rm -f Xos_r.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xos_r.h . + rm -f Xosdefs.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xosdefs.h . + rm -f Xpoll.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xpoll.h . + rm -f Xproto.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xproto.h . + rm -f Xprotostr.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xprotostr.h . + rm -f Xthreads.h + ln -s ../../../include/Xthreads.h . + rm -f ap_keysym.h + ln -s ../../../include/ap_keysym.h . + rm -f keysym.h + ln -s ../../../include/keysym.h . + rm -f keysymdef.h + ln -s ../../../include/keysymdef.h . including in include/bitmaps... make: don't know how to make includes. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/work/xc/include. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg. [root@gateway] /usr/ports/x11/xorg # Does anyone know what could be wrong ? Thanks, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 20:30:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756D616A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:30:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBA643D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from wcborstel.demon.nl ([82.161.134.53]:19515 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dk6Qk-000OvO-Nd; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:30:10 +0000 Message-ID: <42B5D5CF.1030908@wcborstel.nl> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:30:07 +0200 From: Jorn Argelo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Barnes References: <20050619201817.791E943D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050619201817.791E943D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing x.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:30:12 -0000 Ian Barnes wrote: >Hi, > >I am trying to install x.org onto my 5.4stable box. > >In /usr/ports/x11/xorg I typed make install and I get this error after a >while (It's a long error): > >making Makefiles in include/bitmaps... >imake: not found > > There you have it, you miss imake. cd /usr/ports/devel/imake-6 && make install clean Kind of weird because it should just use imake as a dependency. Might be an idea to contact the ports maintainer about it and see why imake is not included as an dependency. Cheers, Jorn >*** Error code 127 > >[snip] > >Does anyone know what could be wrong ? > >Thanks, >Ian > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 20:38:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F99516A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:38:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peder.blom@bredband.net) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751D343D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:38:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peder.blom@bredband.net) Received: from hecate ([83.226.130.64] [83.226.130.64]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050619203845.LRHO19329.mxfep01.bredband.com@hecate>; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:38:45 +0200 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:38:45 +0200 From: Peder Blom To: John Conner Message-Id: <20050619223845.0ae260b2.peder.blom@bredband.net> In-Reply-To: <20050617133554.35550.qmail@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050617133554.35550.qmail@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf: filter by program? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:38:48 -0000 On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:35:54 +0100 (BST) John Conner wrote: > Hello all, > > I was just wondering if it was possible to add program > filtering into an IPF firewall? For example if traffic > is allowed out on port 80 then it may only travel > through this port if, for example, it is coming from > firefox etc. It seems like a pretty useful feature but > as of yet I have been unable to find any documentation > that covers such a filtering rule. Any > feedback/suggestions would be much appreciated, > Other answers in this thread has made it clear that this is not possible using IPF. However, you can achieve something along these lines using jails. Put Firefox in a jail and make sure that there are no other programs in that jail that can access port 80. Then block all outgoing access to port 80, except from the jail ip. It will be a little more complicated to start Firefox, eg "ssh -X jail.ip firefox" instead of "firefox". Another effect is that Firefox will only have access to the jailed environment when you save data (or when it crashes or is a victim of the latest unpatched exploit). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 20:55:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A6016A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:55:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnjawed@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725BB43D53 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:55:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnjawed@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so342104wri for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=URJTYj1sLNDe/YSoF6AEdvnrM+vBBJm5P/gkCHaqZCThHgTEL85q+xRG/Dk6Gyulbw6IuNmSBJg4hItlAbN1xKN/EVg7f6M36oRPGsGwRxmIx7lahPu0nMyxMbgPyvJwU1M+ZROPmHAUb3GLI9EaTsjC6gODSWdliCgkleMvVLQ= Received: by 10.54.54.51 with SMTP id c51mr2146739wra; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.132.10 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:55:14 -0700 From: John Jawed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42B5D2FF.4030807@reston.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B5D2FF.4030807@reston.demon.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Odd ATI + Xorg behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Jawed List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:55:15 -0000 Ok, I commented out my nvidia sections completely and ran X. It still showe= d=20 the distortion with the two LCD's on the ATI card. I'm going to unplug the nvidia card out of the board altogether and see wha= t=20 happens then. Regards On 6/19/05, Yuri van Overmeeren wrote: >=20 > John Jawed wrote: >=20 > >I've spent about 3 days trying everything I could think of getting my=20 > setup > >to work. I have 3 monitors, one CRT, and 2 LCD's. The 2 LCD's are hooked > >into my AGP ATI Radeon 9800 PRO via the DVI and CRT slots. My CRT is=20 > hooked > >up via my Nvidia 440 PCI card. > > > >What I was hoping to achieve was one desktop that spanned all three=20 > screens. > >I am having issues with the LCD's on my ATI card. Basically, they end up > >looking like this: > > > >http://www.johnjawed.com/abstract/Screenshot-1.png > > > >Now, I know it is not a hardware issue, because in Windows, there is no > >distortion or artifacting. Here is my xorg.conf as well: > > > >http://www.johnjawed.com/abstract/xorg.conf > > > >Regards, > >john > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > The screenshot looks like a memory problem, since it's not hardware it > could be a bug in the driver (something's writing to wrong mem > locations/corrupting it?) >=20 > Xorg.conf seems ok, have you tried using only Ati dual displays and not > using the nvidia card/driver, maybe we can narrow it down to a problem > between the two drivers. >=20 > good luck :) >=20 > yuri > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 21:10:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D214C16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:10:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnc2kk@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from web26907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web26907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5211343D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:10:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnc2kk@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 57604 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2005 21:10:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aRs4kLBZGAG84+COiYmp/xG9m60yAF4JfbX80HotxZAHCaxHPt5RQGw4Pj4R3E0xPyOJOeAziy17TSRb5Qahur9SS5zyVRQ/L+8cJG2CsDNVxWJDtsBxTIfyoqIx/1VTCqRp8fjsWlUGc6FulFN0XlfyIIOHzOReUf5BGSksxNM= ; Message-ID: <20050619211051.57602.qmail@web26907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.6.246.92] by web26907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:10:51 BST Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:10:51 +0100 (BST) From: John Conner To: Peder Blom In-Reply-To: <20050619223845.0ae260b2.peder.blom@bredband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf: filter by program? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:10:53 -0000 --- Peder Blom wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:35:54 +0100 (BST) > John Conner wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I was just wondering if it was possible to add > program > > filtering into an IPF firewall? For example if > traffic > > is allowed out on port 80 then it may only travel > > through this port if, for example, it is coming > from > > firefox etc. It seems like a pretty useful feature > but > > as of yet I have been unable to find any > documentation > > that covers such a filtering rule. Any > > feedback/suggestions would be much appreciated, > > > > Other answers in this thread has made it clear that > this is not possible > using IPF. However, you can achieve something along > these lines using > jails. > > Put Firefox in a jail and make sure that there are > no other programs in > that jail that can access port 80. Then block all > outgoing access to > port 80, except from the jail ip. > > It will be a little more complicated to start > Firefox, eg "ssh -X > jail.ip firefox" instead of "firefox". Another > effect is that Firefox > will only have access to the jailed environment when > you save data (or > when it crashes or is a victim of the latest > unpatched exploit). > > Thanks Peder, thats a very good idea :) Think ill get on to that right away, cheers. John ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 21:16:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A6816A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:16:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnjawed@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257DA43D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:16:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnjawed@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so345517wri for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:16:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pGDbwARBX8vtC/NFEK+YuoMCzPEW3SwugVok0QL6e6iTf5e1CseNc1Yd8K9yXs9paFW1zAfBw90cU8LU/IPn/sDrNT8xKVdhWVSk1qhpQ35ayao1LSpXrfYxl+J2nhBP5y8FqHFaxzQTU/pHn9ZqfRxpu4izqAUcBkBXRyGuVKE= Received: by 10.54.150.2 with SMTP id x2mr2155548wrd; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.132.10 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:16:38 -0700 From: John Jawed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B5D2FF.4030807@reston.demon.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Odd ATI + Xorg behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Jawed List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:16:39 -0000 Arghhhhhhhhh! Ok I removed the nvidia card, reconfigured X and everything works like a=20 charm! There has to be a driver incompatiblity in X for my setup. Now...I= =20 guess my options are to switch from the "ati" driver to the "radeon" driver= ,=20 and possibly from the "nv" driver to the "nvidia" driver. Any input would be appreciated. On 6/19/05, John Jawed wrote: >=20 > Ok, I commented out my nvidia sections completely and ran X. It still=20 > showed the distortion with the two LCD's on the ATI card. >=20 > I'm going to unplug the nvidia card out of the board altogether and see= =20 > what happens then. >=20 > Regards >=20 > On 6/19/05, Yuri van Overmeeren =20 > wrote:=20 > >=20 > > John Jawed wrote: > >=20 > > >I've spent about 3 days trying everything I could think of getting my= =20 > > setup=20 > > >to work. I have 3 monitors, one CRT, and 2 LCD's. The 2 LCD's are=20 > > hooked > > >into my AGP ATI Radeon 9800 PRO via the DVI and CRT slots. My CRT is= =20 > > hooked > > >up via my Nvidia 440 PCI card. > > > > > >What I was hoping to achieve was one desktop that spanned all three=20 > > screens.=20 > > >I am having issues with the LCD's on my ATI card. Basically, they end= =20 > > up > > >looking like this: > > > > > >http://www.johnjawed.com/abstract/Screenshot-1.png=20 > > > > > >Now, I know it is not a hardware issue, because in Windows, there is n= o > > >distortion or artifacting. Here is my xorg.conf as well: > > > > > > http://www.johnjawed.com/abstract/xorg.conf > > > > > >Regards, > > >john > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org > > " > > > > > > > > > > > The screenshot looks like a memory problem, since it's not hardware it > > could be a bug in the driver (something's writing to wrong mem > > locations/corrupting it?)=20 > >=20 > > Xorg.conf seems ok, have you tried using only Ati dual displays and not > > using the nvidia card/driver, maybe we can narrow it down to a problem > > between the two drivers. > >=20 > > good luck :) > >=20 > > yuri > >=20 >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 21:21:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0264D16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:21:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EFC43D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:21:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 5912 invoked by uid 207); 19 Jun 2005 21:20:59 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. 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Processed in 0.567153 secs); 19 Jun 2005 21:20:59 -0000 Received: from dialup80.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.80]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 19 Jun 2005 21:20:58 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5JLKqDH000898; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:20:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5JLKqrP000897; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:20:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:20:52 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues Message-ID: <20050619212052.GD635@gothmog.gr> References: <5ef8c2f00506190828d6cb240@mail.gmail.com> <20050619162856.GD631@gothmog.gr> <5ef8c2f0050619110138fbe78b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5ef8c2f0050619110138fbe78b@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT buildworld woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:21:02 -0000 On 2005-06-19 15:01, Jos? de Paula Rodrigues wrote: > On 6/19/05, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2005-06-19 12:28, Jos? de Paula Rodrigues wrote: > > > Greetings all, > > > > > > I have an annoying problem when trying to build world: [...] > > > > Are you sure your CC/CXX or other make.conf settings are not causing you > > trouble? (The best way to determine this is to run a buildworld without > > any make.conf file at all.) > > I renamed /etc/make.conf and tried again, and... it built! Yes, there > must be something in my make.conf that buildworld doesn't like much (I > have no idea what it would be), thanks for the hint! Cool! I'm glad it worked. The best way to test make.conf options is to add them one by one, by copying the respective lines from /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf and then running at least one buildworld/buildkernel cycle before adopting them for all subsequent builds :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 21:31:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B8216A420 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7DC43D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:31:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5JLZQAN051566; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5JLZPIX051565; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:35:25 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Jonathan Chen Message-ID: <20050619213525.GA34412@thought.org> References: <20050619174509.GA32544@thought.org> <20050619191451.GB15438@osiris.chen.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050619191451.GB15438@osiris.chen.org.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: postfix, ubuntu+postfix and FBSD+sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:31:23 -0000 On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 07:14:51AM +1200, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 10:45:09AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > People, > > > > This is one reason that I don't want to switch to postfix > > (or any other "more secure" MTA). So far I have figured > > out most things on ubuntu linux--(Debian based). I can get > > mail *out* from any acct; but not in. According to my > > sendmail /var/log/maillog, the connection is refused: > > > > > > Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3qGbQ035034: > > to=, delay=4+13:26:14, xdelay=00:00:00, > > mailer=relay, pri=22800576, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, > > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. > > Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3rm4u035037: > > to=, delay=4+13:24:45, xdelay=00:00:00, > > mailer=relay, pri=22890920, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, > > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. > > A connection refused means that the outgoing box doesn't think > there's a socket listening on the receiving end. Have you made sure > that: > > 1. postfix is running? > 2. no firewall blocks in place? > 3. "inet_interfaces = all" in Postix's main.cf? > I 2-checked that postfix *was* running on ethic. There is a script. Firewalls, none insided. As for "3", I'll check. Hmm. The "inet_interfaces" was set to "= loopback_only" for some reason. Not that keen unless there is some valid reason. I set it to "= all" and restarted. OK. Now I get a "Service unavailable" in maillog: Jun 19 14:23:02 sage sendmail[3035]: j5JLMsjS003025: --- 050 ... Connecting to ethic.thought.org. via relay... Jun 19 14:23:08 sage sendmail[3035]: j5JLMsjS003025: SMTP outgoing connect on sage Jun 19 14:23:09 sage sendmail[3035]: j5JLMsjS003025: --- 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable (hold) Jun 19 14:23:09 sage sendmail[3035]: j5JLMsjS003025: to=, ctladdr= (1001/1001), delay=00:00:09, xdelay=00:00:09, mailer=relay, pri=30368, relay=ethic.thought.org. [10.0.0.220], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable Jun 19 14:23:09 sage sendmail[3035]: j5JLMsjS003025: j5JLN9jS003035: DSN: Service unavailable Any idea what I need to fix now? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 21:44:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755B416A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:44:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CE443D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:44:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:44:45 +0100 Message-ID: <42B5E723.7080503@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:44:03 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel Duda References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2005 21:44:45.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BAA2ED0:01C57518] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:44:06 -0000 Pavel Duda wrote: > Hi, > I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on it but > not read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape > drive hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. > Does somebody have experience with this ? > > My specs : > FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 > and tape drive Python 04106. Not terribly helpful, but I have a DAT2 working with an Adaptec 2940A. It's worked since forever and is fine with 5.4 though I never ran 5.1/2/3. Is the machine it's attached to dual-boot? I.e. can you test the tape drive in Windows, or Linux for example? (Well, they have to be good for something :-)) Is this a recent problem or is this the first time you've tried using this drive? Can you try another SCSI adapter? I've run mine (for testing only) off the cheapest rubbish I got free with a SCSI CDRW and it was fine. The only other guess would be termination. Has anything else on your SCSI chain changed? Is the terminator properly plugged in? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 21:48:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCA716A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DD743D1D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E948123A26; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:46:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716FF12B09E; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:46:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32439-04; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:46:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AE412B085; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:46:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B5E7B9.70309@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:46:33 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" References: <20050619123123.B59187@prime.gushi.org> In-Reply-To: <20050619123123.B59187@prime.gushi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bundled openssh version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:48:16 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Is freeBSD ever going to update the "contributed" version of openssh to > something more recent? Yes. Currently OpenSSH 4.1p1 is part of 6-CURRENT developent branch. An update in 5-STABLE may happen, but not regulary and not definitely. I strongly believe that 3.5p1 of 4-STABLE will remain forever. > I'm particularly interested in the DNS SSHFP support, It should work with OpenSSH of the base system as far as I know. > and I'm unsure of the differences between the "base" version, > the one in ports, and the "portable" version in ports, as far as what > functionality I would gain/lose. The OpenBSD team develops OpenSSH for their operating system. Since this piece of software won't run on other systems without huge patches they offer a portable version of OpenSSH. I don't know the differences in detail, because I neither use OpenSSH in that excessive manner nor OpenBSD. A slightly changed portable OpenSSH 3.8.1p1 comes along with the FreeBSD base system. The "p" indicates that this is the portable version. You'll find a list of these small changes in /usr/src/crypto/openssh/FREEBSD-upgrade[1]. The port security/openssh-portable is the most recent OpenSSH 4.1p1. If you want to know the FreeBSD-specific changes then the patches in /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/files/ might be helpful. security/openssh is a patched OpenSSH 3.6.1 of the non-portable version; I think this port falled asleep. The Changelog[2] gives hints about the functionality that you will gain with a newer version. I'm not sure, but I guess you lose almost nothing if you choose the latest. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/crypto/openssh/ [2] ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/ChangeLog Regards Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 21:58:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA72616A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:58:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D5E43D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:58:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:59:18 +0100 Message-ID: <42B5EA8D.2050209@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:58:37 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <20050619113849.3ae5cbad.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20050619113849.3ae5cbad.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2005 21:59:18.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[2432DDC0:01C5751A] Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detailed logging of ssh sessions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:58:39 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: >I'd like to start logging everything that >happens during any ssh login (since all our work on these machines is >via ssh). I understand, and frequently use script(1), but I want this >to be required. I have two goals: >1) If someone manages to guess a password and break in, I want a log > of what they're doing. >2) I want 100% guarantee that everything we do is recorded, to make > future debugging of configuration mistakes easier. > >I've been researching sshd, and it doesn't seem as if it has this >capability. > I think you're looking in the wrong place for this functionality. SSH is just a point-to-point connector. The functionality you want should come in some way from the login shell. Whether some shell out there already does this, or whether you could just use script itself somehow, I couldn't tell you. I'd just experiment with using script in some way -- perhaps writing a C program to be the shell which forks and execs script with suitable parameters such as a filename based on the date, tty, user etc. Or starting with script and modifying it to work as a login shell which did that stuff. If you really want this to be secure, the log files ought to be on a read-only medium. If someone hacks root they can delete the trace --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 22:01:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481A116A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:01:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526AD43D49 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:01:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5JM5Hih051917; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5JM5Gxw051916; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:05:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:05:16 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "albi@scii.nl" Message-ID: <20050619220516.GB34412@thought.org> References: <20050619174509.GA32544@thought.org> <20050619191451.GB15438@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20050619212223.0b43b89f.albi@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050619212223.0b43b89f.albi@scii.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: postfix, ubuntu+postfix and FBSD+sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:01:20 -0000 On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 09:22:23PM +0200, albi@scii.nl wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:14:51 +1200 > Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 10:45:09AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > People, > > > > > > This is one reason that I don't want to switch to postfix > > > (or any other "more secure" MTA). So far I have figured > > > out most things on ubuntu linux--(Debian based). I can get > > > mail *out* from any acct; but not in. According to my > > > sendmail /var/log/maillog, the connection is refused: > > > > > > > > > Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3qGbQ035034: > > > to=, delay=4+13:26:14, xdelay=00:00:00, > > > mailer=relay, pri=22800576, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, > > > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. > > > Jun 19 10:18:50 sage sm-mta[60201]: j5F3rm4u035037: > > > to=, delay=4+13:24:45, xdelay=00:00:00, > > > mailer=relay, pri=22890920, relay=ethic.thought.org., dsn=4.0.0, > > > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ethic.thought.org. > > > > A connection refused means that the outgoing box doesn't think > > there's a socket listening on the receiving end. Have you made sure > > that: > > > > 1. postfix is running? > > 2. no firewall blocks in place? > > 3. "inet_interfaces = all" in Postix's main.cf? > > from the posting it's not so clear to me that the poster is running > postfix on FreeBSD and/or ubuntu ? > > if the latter only, then i'd like to add that in ubuntu warty (not sure > about hoary), the postfix master.cf was by default configured to accept > only mail from localhost On my FBSD mailserver I run sendmail, on my ubuntu computer I'm running postfix. Can't make much sense of master.cf from a glance. Is there a way of accepting mail from any/all other servers? gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 22:21:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179B616A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:21:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8E643D1D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 408938568C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:51:45 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:51:45 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Pavel Duda Message-ID: <20050619222145.GB37620@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:21:47 -0000 --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 19 June 2005 at 21:22:43 +0200, Pavel Duda wrote: > Hi, > I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on it but not > read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape drive > hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. Does > somebody have experience with this ? > > My specs : > FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 > and tape drive Python 04106. > > I'm attaching dmesg output. I don't have time to investigate the status output in detail, but at first glance the output looks consistent with hardware failure. I've had this so many times with tape drives, in particular DDS, that I have given up using them altogether: not a single one survived its guarantee period. If it's not the drive, it could be the tape, though I've seen far fewer problems in this area. Does this drive (and tape) work in other systems? I don't think it's termination; you say you only see the errors during reading, and that doesn't fit. What does the drive do when you try to read it? A lot of back-and-forth is usually an indication of hardware read errors. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html The virus contained in this message was not detected. Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCte/5IubykFB6QiMRAg3yAJ4s35fJj8Gz96ebeJpTQr+WI/GhpwCeLrd1 aZcELmDvw/3pqwLV/dXDNnA= =EcJt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 22:48:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDE916A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:48:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E06343D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:48:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (24-53-250-148.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.53.250.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927B369A21; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:48:21 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Alex Zbyslaw Message-Id: <20050619184821.7d39f89c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <42B5EA8D.2050209@dial.pipex.com> References: <20050619113849.3ae5cbad.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <42B5EA8D.2050209@dial.pipex.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detailed logging of ssh sessions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:48:23 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: > > >I'd like to start logging everything that > >happens during any ssh login (since all our work on these machines is > >via ssh). I understand, and frequently use script(1), but I want this > >to be required. I have two goals: > >1) If someone manages to guess a password and break in, I want a log > > of what they're doing. > >2) I want 100% guarantee that everything we do is recorded, to make > > future debugging of configuration mistakes easier. > > > >I've been researching sshd, and it doesn't seem as if it has this > >capability. > > I think you're looking in the wrong place for this functionality. SSH > is just a point-to-point connector. The functionality you want should > come in some way from the login shell. I suspected that might be the way to go, but I've been unable to get anything working so far. > If you really want this to be secure, the log files ought to be on a > read-only medium. If someone hacks root they can delete the trace Logging is done both on and off-machine (i.e. syslog logs locally, and sends the logs to a dedicated logging machine as well) As long as I can use syslog for the logging, I've got my secure logs. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 22:51:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DED016A41F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:51:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3E843D1F for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:51:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9882 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dk8dR-0007Tm-SV; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:51:25 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D891545E9; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:59:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CB058CC1F; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:51:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:51:24 +0200 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20050620005124.032ebcf8.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050619220516.GB34412@thought.org> References: <20050619174509.GA32544@thought.org> <20050619191451.GB15438@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20050619212223.0b43b89f.albi@scii.nl> <20050619220516.GB34412@thought.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: postfix, ubuntu+postfix and FBSD+sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:51:27 -0000 On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:05:16 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > > from the posting it's not so clear to me that the poster is running > > postfix on FreeBSD and/or ubuntu ? > > > > if the latter only, then i'd like to add that in ubuntu warty (not > > sure about hoary), the postfix master.cf was by default configured > > to accept only mail from localhost > > > On my FBSD mailserver I run sendmail, on my ubuntu computer I'm > running postfix. Can't make much sense of master.cf from a > glance. Is there a way of accepting mail from any/all other > servers? a google-search for "ubuntu postfix master.cf" found this : http://www.petersblog.org/node/839 ----------- begin quote -------- The solution to this was to edit the /etc/postfix/master.cf file and change the lines: 127.0.0.1:smtp inet n - - - - smtpd ::1:smtp inet n - - - - smtpd to smtp inet n - - - - smtpd which tells it to listen to any connection to the smtp port, not just local connections. ------------ end quote ------- HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 23:01:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22B716A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:01:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3A043D4C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:01:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5JN2vb11479; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Pavel Duda" , Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:01:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:01:59 -0000 How do you know it's actually writing? Can you remove the tape and put it in another DDS3 drive and see your files? Are you sure your using a DDS125 tape? Do you regularly use a cleaning cartridge on this drive? I would also suggest you try FreeBSD 4.11 on this system - looks like your serial ports aren't working, either. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pavel Duda >Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:23 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: DDS Tape problems > > >Hi, >I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on=20 >it but not=20 >read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape drive=20 >hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. Does=20 >somebody have experience with this ? > >My specs : >FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940=20 >and tape drive Python 04106. > >I'm attaching dmesg output. > >Thanks for any advice.... > Pavel Duda > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 23:02:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD18916A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:02:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas.henry@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9CB43D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:02:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas.henry@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so532764nzk for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=j/RIfwmGD+gXx1aAE67W5WcHIr+4fkIM9fMNyiAbf6QleAeIYHiv/zwhvrTw0qmGfEf79RxNhgyTyFKr4IOxcLapz8jLUooP5USJkprnJrw9MkgHCn6OccuGgyF9iqIx4+2VykXntRsBvzObSoVgVlu377MYfjL1haw0MNRlwPI= Received: by 10.36.43.9 with SMTP id q9mr2770286nzq; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.9 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:02:47 -0400 From: Nicholas Henry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Installing Apache 2 with custom options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nicholas Henry List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:02:48 -0000 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 I have apache2 running which I installed from ports. All is running well. I would like to install the proxy module. As I'm relatively new to FreeBSD and Unix I'm not sure which is the best way to go. Is there a way to change the config options before doing a make. How do I do this so I add to the existing config options with out "overwriting them". Can you do this with ports? Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers, Nicholas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 23:07:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1740A16A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:07:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D8C43D1D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:07:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5JN8Qb11518; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:08:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "P.U.Kruppa" , Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:07:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050619074720.V11229@www.pukruppa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:07:27 -0000 What model of Proliant? Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of P.U.Kruppa >Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:56 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) > > >Hi everbody, > >our school has just received a new HP ProLiant and I set up >FreeBSD 5.4 -RELEASE with a RAID 1 system on it (using ciss >driver). >Is there any software tool which can show me the state of the two >SCSI discs (if one is failing or if they are mirrored sorrectly) >or is it sufficient to watch the little LEDs on the box? > >Regards, > >Uli. > >********************************************* >* Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * >********************************************* >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 23:27:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1166616A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:27:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA26A43D48 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:27:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Dk9CA-0007Jz-Rn; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:27:18 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Fabian Keil Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:28:06 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050619141506.1222993f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20050619141506.1222993f@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506191828.07064.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcbdfd116f8eaa9d6b170ea5e6670c5d2e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3G file burns to -514M file on DVD-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:27:20 -0000 On Sunday 19 June 2005 07:15 am, Fabian Keil wrote: > "Andrew L. Gould" wrote: > > I have a gzip'd database backup file that's 3GB in size. I used > > mkisofs to create an iso image for burning to a DVD-R. Both the > > mkisofs and growisofs process appeared to finish successfully; but > > 'ls -alh' shows the resulting file to be -514M in size when the > > DVD-R is mounted in FreeBSD 4.10. When I mount the dvd in a > > separate FreeBSD 5.4 system, ls -alh results in 'ls: > > /cdrom/pgdumpall.gz: Value too large to be stored in data type'. I > > ftp'd the original 3GB file from the FreeBSD 4.10 system to the > > FreeBSD 5.4 system. ls -alh reads the size of the original file > > correctly. > > > > Windows reads the DVD-R and shows the file size correctly. > > > > I've tried recreating the iso image using -r and -l options and > > burning the iso file with and without the -dvd-compat option; but > > the results remain the same. > > > > Any ideas or advice? > > Split your backup file before creating the iso. > > At the moment FreeBSD can't handle big files on isofs. > If I remember correctly, big means > 1 GB, but I'm not sure. > > You should still be able to extract the file with isoinfo > from the cdrtools port. > > Fabian Once I've burned the DVD, how can I rejoin the files created using the -split-output option so that I can reload the database from the dump file? The man pages for mkisofs, isoinfo and split weren't very helpful in this regard. Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 23:59:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEA616A41C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:59:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CDD43D55 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:59:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-27-86-22.san.res.rr.com [66.27.86.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5JNx1FG010687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:59:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050619165543.084b2b70@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Sender: lists@cobalt.antimatter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:56:40 -0700 To: Bill Moran , questions@freebsd.org From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <20050619113849.3ae5cbad.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <20050619113849.3ae5cbad.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Detailed logging of ssh sessions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:59:03 -0000 At 08:38 AM 6/19/2005, Bill Moran wrote: >I've been researching this, and so far haven't found a way to do what I >want to do. > >I have servers here and there, that should only be accessible by a limited >number of administrators via ssh (i.e. mail and web servers, firewalls). > >As an added security measure, I'd like to start logging everything that >happens during any ssh login (since all our work on these machines is >via ssh). I understand, and frequently use script(1), but I want this >to be required. I have two goals: >1) If someone manages to guess a password and break in, I want a log > of what they're doing. >2) I want 100% guarantee that everything we do is recorded, to make > future debugging of configuration mistakes easier. > >I've been researching sshd, and it doesn't seem as if it has this >capability. Web searches have not yet turned up anything ... I'm guessing >I'm not searching for the right phrases, since I can't believe I'm the >only one doing this. > >Any advice or pointers are welcome. This looks like it might do the trick for you: http://honeypots.sourceforge.net/modified_script.html -Glenn >-- >Bill Moran >Potential Technologies >http://www.potentialtech.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 00:19:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AEB16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:19:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@bdug.org.au) Received: from mail.bdug.org.au (mail.bdug.org.au [202.72.170.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4BE43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:19:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@bdug.org.au) Received: from w2k2 (unknown [192.168.0.102]) by mail.bdug.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F8A4C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:44 +0800 (WST) From: "Paul Hamilton" To: "'Bill Moran'" , Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:22:26 +0800 Message-ID: <007e01c5752e$22e38a50$6600a8c0@w2k2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20050619113849.3ae5cbad.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Detailed logging of ssh sessions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:19:58 -0000 Hi Bill, Just as a side note, to help with people guessing a password, how about having a script that monitors the auth.log file and when you get more = than X number of entries of username/password tries coming from one IP, it then writes a firewall entry that blocks the IP. You could have a = counter/timer, that would release the IP after Y number of minutes (24 hours?). Of = course, you could exclude your usual admin IP's from being monitored. Cheers, Paul Hamilton -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Bill Moran Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 11:39 PM To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Detailed logging of ssh sessions I've been researching this, and so far haven't found a way to do what I = want to do. I have servers here and there, that should only be accessible by a = limited number of administrators via ssh (i.e. mail and web servers, firewalls). As an added security measure, I'd like to start logging everything that happens during any ssh login (since all our work on these machines is = via ssh). I understand, and frequently use script(1), but I want this to be required. I have two goals: 1) If someone manages to guess a password and break in, I want a log of what they're doing. 2) I want 100% guarantee that everything we do is recorded, to make future debugging of configuration mistakes easier. I've been researching sshd, and it doesn't seem as if it has this capability. Web searches have not yet turned up anything ... I'm = guessing I'm not searching for the right phrases, since I can't believe I'm the = only one doing this. Any advice or pointers are welcome. --=20 Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com = _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 01:37:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6D216A41F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:37:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7144743D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:37:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKxQS-1DkBDm06ko-0004s7; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:37:06 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:37:27 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050620033646.W11229@www.pukruppa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:37:12 -0000 On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > What model of Proliant? ML 350 G4 Uli. > > Ted > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of P.U.Kruppa >> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:56 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) >> >> >> Hi everbody, >> >> our school has just received a new HP ProLiant and I set up >> FreeBSD 5.4 -RELEASE with a RAID 1 system on it (using ciss >> driver). >> Is there any software tool which can show me the state of the two >> SCSI discs (if one is failing or if they are mirrored sorrectly) >> or is it sufficient to watch the little LEDs on the box? >> >> Regards, >> >> Uli. >> >> ********************************************* >> * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * >> ********************************************* >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 02:05:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A1216A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:05:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pvdl@afu.com) Received: from afu.com (afu.com [130.94.178.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7D843D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:05:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pvdl@afu.com) Received: (qmail 45378 invoked by uid 12821); 20 Jun 2005 02:05:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([66.245.42.239]) (envelope-sender ) by 130.94.178.21 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Jun 2005 02:05:53 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Peter van der Linden Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:05:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: how to install on laptop? video issue? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:05:54 -0000 I want to install FreeBSD 5.4 onto a partition on my 1 year old HP laptop. I've done a lot of Linux distro installs, and sometimes I need to give the installer a hint about the graphics card, typically something like: boot: linux vga=771 When I try the FreeBSD installer, the screen goes blank about 5 seconds after it starts booting from the CD, typically at the point where it switches to X Window in a Linux install. Is there a similar hint I can give FreeBSD about the type of graphics to use? What are the syntax and choices? I have googled for this without success. Thanks, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 02:50:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D174716A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:50:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9895443D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:50:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j5K2oIiq036725; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:50:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: "Andrew L. Gould" Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:50:33 -0400 Message-ID: <8uacb116unmkqjsnuoubaoj9f5ebq8iiaj@4ax.com> References: <20050619141506.1222993f@localhost> <200506191828.07064.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200506191828.07064.algould@datawok.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3G file burns to -514M file on DVD-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:50:21 -0000 On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:28:06 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions >> > >> > Any ideas or advice? >> >> Split your backup file before creating the iso. >> >> At the moment FreeBSD can't handle big files on isofs. >> If I remember correctly, big means > 1 GB, but I'm not sure. >> >> You should still be able to extract the file with isoinfo >> from the cdrtools port. >> >> Fabian > >Once I've burned the DVD, how can I rejoin the files created using the=20 >-split-output option so that I can reload the database from the dump=20 >file? The man pages for mkisofs, isoinfo and split weren't very=20 >helpful in this regard. On the subject of DVD backups, I have found them to be somewhat lossy over time. For my large database backups, I use rar out of the ports and add recovery records in the archive (-rr) and and split them using its volume feature. I also use par2 to further add redundancy and it has saved my ass a couple of times when I went to get a backup from the year before. from a script I use /usr/local/bin/rar a -r -v45M -rr -p$PASS /backup/root/iso/acctDB.rar /sql-mnt/ /usr/local/bin/par2create -r20 /backup/root/iso/parfiles.par2 /backup/root/iso/*.rar The databases compress down to about 3G on the DVDs across 45MB files. par2 then creates recovery files that allow for upto 20% damage to the DVD. To restore the files, rar x acctDB.rar ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 03:02:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EA916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:02:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slaveszeroes@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D16043D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:02:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slaveszeroes@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so603210nzp for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:02:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rvjMtMf0l9i84QEWvAoDyzhnt/7yiSHyi1ThuL4rHw9mL+UHpI8AvPfrM6gOCRn5oagQilhm610DP8zta7XwcSESMjHp2emsV8+fGw4B29xmpz5+LG+1mL0nY5IicS6UxGF5OGOHSRc2HRTpD846rbSpH1JRXauj/J48t0l3A14= Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr2861326nzc; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:02:51 +0700 From: RdBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Porting M0n0wall WebGUI to freebsd 5.4 Stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: RdBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:02:51 -0000 Dear all,=20 I've been tested monowall and it's captive portal. That's nice but missing some feature that i need. Than i've download rootfs from m0n0 to porting webgui into freebsd box. But i have some errors : #!/usr/local/bin/php Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/services_captiveportal.php:2) in /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/guiconfig.inc on line 33 Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/services_captiveportal.php:2) in /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/guiconfig.inc on line 34 Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/services_captiveportal.php:2) in /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/guiconfig.inc on line 35 Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/services_captiveportal.php:2) in /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/guiconfig.inc on line 36 Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/services_captiveportal.php:2) in /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/guiconfig.inc on line 37 Fatal error: Failed opening required 'config.inc' (include_path=3D'.:/etc/inc:/data/www/monowall/usr/local/www:/usr/local/cap= tiveportal') in /data/www/monowall/usr/local/www/guiconfig.inc on line 41 I've copied mono php.ini to /usr/local/lib/ in my freebsd box. Does anyone can help me ? RMN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 03:30:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F1016A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE1E43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DkCzV-0007Db-8f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:30:29 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:31:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc9d507eca4ad95cdbc82b3391093a72b1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: OT: usage of split X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:30:30 -0000 Regarding the usage of split to divide files into several parts: 1. Can the split utility be used on binary files? 2. How does one rejoin the resulting split files to recreate the original file? I assume you can cat text files into a new file using redirection (>>); but can you do that with a binary file? Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 03:34:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F232A16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:34:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A74A43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K3YWn1098441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:34:32 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5K3YVVi064949; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:34:31 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:34:31 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506200334.j5K3YVVi064949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: algould@datawok.com In-reply-to: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> References: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: usage of split X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:34:40 -0000 > 2. How does one rejoin the resulting split files to recreate the > original file? I assume you can cat text files into a new file using > redirection (>>); but can you do that with a binary file? I'd say yes, you can cat a binary file (though it is likely to mess-up your screen). Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 03:36:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF0C16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:36:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303EB43D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:36:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DkD5J-0002ZI-3J; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:36:29 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Olivier Nicole Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:37:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> <200506200334.j5K3YVVi064949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200506200334.j5K3YVVi064949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506192237.18337.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc69bb22f7cb3bff4e0404ed7e6cfbe7dc350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: usage of split X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:36:30 -0000 On Sunday 19 June 2005 10:34 pm, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > 2. How does one rejoin the resulting split files to recreate the > > original file? I assume you can cat text files into a new file > > using redirection (>>); but can you do that with a binary file? > > I'd say yes, you can cat a binary file (though it is likely to > mess-up your screen). > > Olivier That's what virtual terminals are for! ;-) What's a better way of rejoining split parts of a binary file? Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 03:36:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738BA16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:36:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BDD43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:36:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j5K3aeFE081979; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:36:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:36:40 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050620033640.GD8497@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: usage of split X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:36:44 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 19), Andrew L. Gould said: > Regarding the usage of split to divide files into several parts: > > 1. Can the split utility be used on binary files? split -b bytes infile basename. > 2. How does one rejoin the resulting split files to recreate the > original file? I assume you can cat text files into a new file using > redirection (>>); but can you do that with a binary file? cat basename.* > newfile -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 04:04:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6724116A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnjawed@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEEF43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnjawed@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so543553wra for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:04:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Nr/UTj0k/CiCJrH/iGyP4wZH3nSh6vzc3Lktj5/23A5FY0dyFaRTp+PvDyVUHuPfptqH6r9cgYPgY+MNol9k3vZNMZoBHB/NhXnHy8JrOciMJFxJ7bE010FTa8ALKsjlFawLWV1kqHcK1QaJXdw9fCHDQq03OjMA4BVF0g5b6VQ= Received: by 10.54.150.2 with SMTP id x2mr2278057wrd; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.132.10 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:04:24 -0700 From: John Jawed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B5D2FF.4030807@reston.demon.nl> <18BCD3108DB1311390533CB7@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Odd ATI + Xorg behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Jawed List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:04:25 -0000 On 6/19/05, John Jawed wrote: >=20 > Hello Paul, >=20 > Yes I can have 3 side by side...it works fine like that except for the=20 > artifacting in X. Not having Xinerama was done on purpose, as it is nativ= ely=20 > done for me via by both the nvidia and ati drivers. My current goal is to= =20 > look for updated ati and/or nvidia drivers that may possibly fix this. >=20 > Regards >=20 > On 6/19/05, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >=20 > > --On June 19, 2005 2:16:38 PM -0700 John Jawed =20 > > wrote: > >=20 > > > Arghhhhhhhhh! > > > > > > Ok I removed the nvidia card, reconfigured X and everything works lik= e=20 > > a=20 > > > charm! There has to be a driver incompatiblity in X for my setup.=20 > > Now...I > > > guess my options are to switch from the "ati" driver to the "radeon" > > > driver, and possibly from the "nv" driver to the "nvidia" driver.=20 > > > > > > Any input would be appreciated. > > > > > Are you sure xorg will display on three screens horizontally? I had the > > impression that you could do two side by side or four horizontally *and= * > > vertically.=20 > >=20 > > IOW, screen 1 left of screen 0, screen 2 above (or below) screen 0. > >=20 > > I also noticed that you don't have Option "Xinerama" "True" in your > > ServerLayout section. Is that deliberate? I know ati cards will do=20 > > xinerama-like display natively, but I wonder if using the xorg.confOpti= on > > would be more effective. > >=20 > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > > Adjunct Information Security Officer=20 > > University of Texas at Dallas > > AVIEN Founding Member > > http://www.utdallas.edu/ > >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 05:41:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D9616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:41:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@ugcs.caltech.edu) Received: from vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu (vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu [131.215.176.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18FF43D58 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:41:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@ugcs.caltech.edu) Received: by vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu (Postfix, from userid 3640) id 645A0E816; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0700 From: pallen@donut.caltech.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: jd@ugcs.caltech.edu Subject: mac osx disklabels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:41:15 -0000 I went to mount a UFS filesystem on an OSX prepared drive and discovered that apparantly FreeBSD can't read mac disklabels? Is this true or am I missing something? -Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 05:52:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8384016A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:52:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A61043D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:52:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K5qUSI001115; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:52:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j5K5qU6N001112; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:52:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17078.22937.726253.34028@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:52:25 -0700 To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <42B556CE.6020103@dial.pipex.com> References: <20050619074720.V11229@www.pukruppa.net> <42B556CE.6020103@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:52:40 -0000 >>>>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:28:14 +0100, >>>>> Alex Zbyslaw said: > A word of caution, though. A Linux system (which I help administer) had > two SCSI disks mounted as RAID-1 through some kind of Adaptec > controller. Recently the machine crashed and it transpires that one of > the disks hadn't been written to since 2002! I am told that the bootup > screen showed the RAID-1 as working, and Linux could *only* see one > virtual disk -- the supposed RAID mirror. So, I think your question is > a very good one! We had (apparently) no way of knowing what was going > on. The machine crashed with no messages whatsoever, after losing all > access to its disks, and there was no indication that RAID-1 was not > functioning. In order to boost read performance, a RAID card should interleave reading from a RAID-1 volume by reading alternately from one drive and then the other. You can see this in alternate blinking of the activity lights of the drives. If you are not seeing this when copying a large file, then this would suggest that a RAID-1 volume is not working as it should. Sandy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 05:56:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186EC16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Received: from ns2.alphaque.com (ns2.alphaque.com [202.75.47.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EC1843D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:56:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Received: (qmail 33010 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jun 2005 05:56:23 -0000 Received: from lucifer.net-gw.com (HELO prophet.alphaque.com) (202.75.47.153) by lucifer.net-gw.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2005 05:56:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prophet.alphaque.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5K5sv0A001817; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:54:57 +0800 (MYT) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Message-ID: <42B65A30.8050809@alphaque.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:54:56 +0800 From: Dinesh Nair User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050326 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RdBSD References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Porting M0n0wall WebGUI to freebsd 5.4 Stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:56:27 -0000 On 06/20/05 11:02 RdBSD said the following: > I've been tested monowall and it's captive portal. That's nice but > missing some feature that i need. Than i've download rootfs from m0n0 > to porting webgui into freebsd box. But i have some errors : you may want to start with m0n0wall 1.2b8 which is freebsd 5.x based. 1.2b9 reverted back to freebsd 4.x though. -- Regards, /\_/\ "All dogs go to heaven." dinesh@alphaque.com (0 0) http://www.alphaque.com/ +==========================----oOO--(_)--OOo----==========================+ | for a in past present future; do | | for b in clients employers associates relatives neighbours pets; do | | echo "The opinions here in no way reflect the opinions of my $a $b." | | done; done | +=========================================================================+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 06:37:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B12816A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:37:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.illies@molmed.ki.se) Received: from humle.it.ki.se (humle.it.ki.se [130.237.101.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AF943D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:37:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.illies@molmed.ki.se) Received: from Klabautermann.ks.se (gate2.ks.se [193.10.63.101]) by humle.it.ki.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5K6beat008715; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:37:40 +0200 (MEST) Received: by Klabautermann.ks.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5DF48C15D; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:33:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:33:45 +0200 From: Christopher Illies To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20050620063345.GA61011@Klabautermann.ks.se> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20050618041356.GA33832@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050618041356.GA33832@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: abiword (or even Ooo) and more fonts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:37:44 -0000 On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 09:13:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Folks, > > Once upon a time (like when I ran v 4.x) I somehow managed to > have a bunch of ttf-derived fonts that somehow worked with > abiword. Is there anything in x11-fonts that would give me > access to more than the standard fonts? (Just for my rare > snail letters that would use something fun or offbeat.) There is a section in the handbook about ttf fonts. I got ttf fonts to work on my system that way. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html HTH, Christopher From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 08:12:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD7D16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:12:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5847543D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:12:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5K8Cvb13795; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sandy Rutherford" , "Alex Zbyslaw" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:11:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <17078.22937.726253.34028@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:12:10 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sandy >Rutherford >Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:52 PM > >In order to boost read performance, a RAID card should interleave >reading from a RAID-1 volume by reading alternately from one drive and >then the other. You can see this in alternate blinking of the >activity lights of the drives. If you are not seeing this when >copying a large file, then this would suggest that a RAID-1 volume is >not working as it should. > Incorrect. What you are describing is RAID-0. RAID-1 is mirroring. Here's a link: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/raid/index.htm Here's the different RAID levels: RAID-0 interleaving between 2 or more disks. Primary purpose is to combine multiple disks into a larger volume. Gives maximum amount of space with no fault tolerance. RAID-1 mirroring Requires pairs of disks. Primary purpose is to give fault tolerance. Most commonly used with cheaper IDE disks and IDE RAID cards. Uses fewest number of disk drives for fault tolerance. Very easy to design so that if 1 disk dies the array of disks continues without interruption RAID-2 Bit level striping. Not used in modern systems (the scheme was overengineered, basically) RAID-3 Byte level striping. Rarely seen in modern RAID controllers. RAID-4 Block level striping. Rarely seen in modern RAID controllers. RAID-5 Block level striping - with distributed parity. Requires a minimum of 3 disks. The primary purpose is to give the volume-combining features of RAID-0 with the redundancy of RAID-1. This is the most popular RAID. But it is more difficult to design for so the cheaper controllers sometimes will halt the system if a disk is lost. Also requires drivers in the OS to allow online rebuilding of a replaced disk drive. Requires significant CPU processing on the RAID card for parity calculations. RAID-6 Same as RAID-5 except parity is dual distributed, not single distributed. Not common althogh some manufacturers call their proprietary extensions to RAID-5, "raid 6" RAID-7 Patented RAID solution of Storage Computer Corporation that first showed up in their OmniRAID stuff, now seen in their CyberBorgVSA. (influence of Star Trek in the product name, there) Ted Mittelstaedt Author, The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 08:25:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA8416A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:25:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CD143D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K8Pf98005843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:25:41 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5K8PewZ067643; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:25:40 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:25:40 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506200825.j5K8PewZ067643@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Spy on a socket X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:25:45 -0000 Hi, I have an application with two processes that communicate using a Unix Socket. Is there a way, similar to tcpdump, to spy on the traffic excahnged on that socket? TIA Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 08:26:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB17916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:26:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6C543D58 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:26:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so619349wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:26:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZbtE4FOVRPgxyZXmWW9BAyVWqJr/HJDd3LixG/4ryrkLVfuN/VgY9B9lOCTuWiSZCvR+uoxxFvaoFFE8c6qt9j54m5W0TYo3JaXeaYMQhfoj7havccuK7L6NDWP0Ao+JPYM9eFRB3VCxd2Kpo5l7X4oSISntq95YVIeDfv1zp6U= Received: by 10.54.57.16 with SMTP id f16mr2374786wra; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:26:52 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Peter van der Linden In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install on laptop? video issue? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:26:53 -0000 On 6/20/05, Peter van der Linden wrote: > I want to install FreeBSD 5.4 onto a partition on my 1 year old HP > laptop. >=20 > I've done a lot of Linux distro installs, and sometimes I need to give > the installer a hint about the graphics card, > typically something like: >=20 > boot: linux vga=3D771 >=20 > When I try the FreeBSD installer, the screen goes blank about 5 seconds > after it starts booting from the CD, typically at the point where it > switches to X Window in a Linux install. >=20 > Is there a similar hint I can give FreeBSD about the type of graphics > to use? What are the syntax and choices? > I have googled for this without success. Thanks, I doubt this is graphics. FreeBSD installer works in text mode. Can you see the initial menu (with FreeBSD mascot, ASCII-art style, on the right side of the screen) before the screen gets blank? --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 08:30:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B96516A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:30:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C18F43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:30:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5K8VDb13888; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Peter van der Linden" , Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:30:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: how to install on laptop? video issue? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:30:12 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter van der >Linden >Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:06 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: how to install on laptop? video issue? > > >I want to install FreeBSD 5.4 onto a partition on my 1 year old HP >laptop. > >I've done a lot of Linux distro installs, and sometimes I need to give >the installer a hint about the graphics card, >typically something like: > >boot: linux vga=771 > >When I try the FreeBSD installer, the screen goes blank about 5 seconds >after it starts booting from the CD, typically at the point where it >switches to X Window in a Linux install. > The FreeBSD 5.4 installer does not switch to a graphical X windows screen during the installation precisely to prevent the sort of problem that Linux distros have with hardware like yours. What most likely happened is that something in the FreeBSD kernel probe tickled some hardware in the laptop and made the system either freeze up, or switch off the LCD screen. You might try it with a monitor plugged into the video port and see what happens - also try the keypress sequence on your laptop that switches the video between screen and external port just to see if the screen comes back. Make sure your running the latest BIOS update for your laptop, you can download that from HP. Also see if there is an option to turn ACPI off in your BIOS and try installing with it off. You might have to turn it off at the boot loader with the command unset acpi_load This is discussed here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.html Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 08:56:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BF616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:56:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2CB43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:56:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E884F40EF for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42B684A2.6020305@atopia.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:56:02 -0400 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:56:04 -0000 Hi all, OK, we're still having the FreeBSD machines die on us. Its two specific machines we've noticed, both FreeBSD 5.4, different hardware, different purposes. Originally, orion, our mail server, started getting kernel traps and dieing. Then, our primary ldap server, a week later, started doing it. Now they both are dieing atleast once every couple days, at random times. Orion has been up solid for five days, and Caliban (our primary ldap server) has been up for about seven, before this evening at 2:00 am when it died again. Here is the output from Caliban: http://paste.atopia.net/126. Orion has a similar message on the console when it hard locks, but the process usually says "procmail". I've never had instability problems with FreeBSD. These machines are both in the same location, but on different power supplies. They are controlled with high-level Air Conditioning. We've got three other FreeBSD 5.4 machines which haven't shown any sign of instability, but they dont receive anywhere near as much traffic as Caliban and Orion ... those servers get hammered constantly. The ONLY similarity between Orion and Caliban software-wise is that they both are involved in LDAP. Caliban acts as a primary LDAP server and Orion has LDAP configured via pam and nss. Please let me know any suggestions you can think of. The hardware is fairly new in both machines, but they are completely different kinds of boxes. Both machines are multiprocessor. Thanks in advance, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 09:37:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C0216A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:37:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B6143D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:37:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5K9cJb14473; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:38:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "P.U.Kruppa" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:37:15 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050620033646.W11229@www.pukruppa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:37:21 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of P.U.Kruppa >Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:37 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: P.U.Kruppa; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) > > >On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> >> What model of Proliant? >ML 350 G4 > Oh good, we have a customer that has been looking at one of these for FreeBSD and I'm glad to hear that you didn't have problems with it. With these all you get is hot-swap support although you might have to do a camcontrol rescan after swapping the disk. However, the RAID card intelligence is supposed to operate independently of the disk driver to do the remirroring or parity rebuilding. In theory you should be able to simply yank out a failed disk and slap in a replacement and the operating system shouldn't even notice anything. No matter what the OS in use. Actually, the Windows management tools for this raid controller on a server are observational as well. There is no rebuild tool or anything like that. When we set these systems up for customers (All the recent Proliants use the same RAID controller) we usually configure them RAID-5 with 4 physical disks, the setup will set 3 of the disks in the array, and one a hot-spare. And in the event of a disk failure, which you can tell by looking at the disk drive lights, or going into the management interface, you simply pull out the bad disk and put in the replacement and the RAID card takes care of the rest of it. As for knowing if a disk has failed, I think the only way to know is to watch the little lights on the disk front. And that is true of the Windows tools also - unless you install a complete HP Systems Insight Manager console (generally on a separate machine) which talks to all your little HP servers that run the various HP-SIM agents that talk to the raid card, etc. If I were you I would test all this by pulling a disk and seeing what happens. HP just released a binary driver for this series of RAID cards for Linux in May 2005. It supports RedHat and Suse. I do not know if they ship software notification tools with this binary driver, or if it also talks to a HP-SIM console. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 09:41:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F7D16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:41:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B54A43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:41:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5K9gab14508; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Matt Juszczak" , Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:41:33 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B684A2.6020305@atopia.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:41:36 -0000 Please post dmesg output from both systems. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Matt Juszczak >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 1:56 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... > > >Hi all, > >OK, we're still having the FreeBSD machines die on us. Its two >specific >machines we've noticed, both FreeBSD 5.4, different hardware, different >purposes. > >Originally, orion, our mail server, started getting kernel traps and >dieing. Then, our primary ldap server, a week later, started >doing it. >Now they both are dieing atleast once every couple days, at random >times. Orion has been up solid for five days, and Caliban (our primary >ldap server) has been up for about seven, before this evening >at 2:00 am >when it died again. > >Here is the output from Caliban: http://paste.atopia.net/126. >Orion has >a similar message on the console when it hard locks, but the process >usually says "procmail". > >I've never had instability problems with FreeBSD. These machines are >both in the same location, but on different power supplies. They are >controlled with high-level Air Conditioning. We've got three other >FreeBSD 5.4 machines which haven't shown any sign of instability, but >they dont receive anywhere near as much traffic as Caliban and >Orion ... >those servers get hammered constantly. > >The ONLY similarity between Orion and Caliban software-wise is >that they >both are involved in LDAP. Caliban acts as a primary LDAP server and >Orion has LDAP configured via pam and nss. > >Please let me know any suggestions you can think of. The hardware is >fairly new in both machines, but they are completely different kinds of >boxes. Both machines are multiprocessor. > >Thanks in advance, > >Matt >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 09:49:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D693816A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF81143D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 3422E18002AC for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:09 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 20 Jun 2005 09:49:09 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 184064BEAD; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:09 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:49:09 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:49:09 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050620094909.184064BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Cc: Subject: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:09 -0000 Hello. I am curious why it's so difficult to get a simple and straight forward list of FreeBSD's features, that normal people can understand? I am trying to write one of the largest articles ever to be published on www.PCWorld.no -- to only say good things about FreeBSD. But I want it clear what good things to say. http://www.freebsd.org/features.html is alright, but not the best. Using super-advanced jargons, it says what they are, but not what they do. At least not in a way normal people can understand. http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/ aims more towards the general public, and does the job a little better. How ever they don't even mention half of FreeBSD's features. http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html is very, very good. I get the feeling though, that it ain't like that no more. Any idea, people? Thanks! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.bleed.no --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 10:11:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81FF16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:11:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796EC43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:11:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.146]) by mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KAB2qE009493 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:02 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.254.3]) (24.176.115.34) by mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2005 06:11:02 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.93,214,1115006400"; d="scan'208"; a="1206292373:sNHT16177708" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Questions From: Charles Howse Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:52:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: qpopper error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:11:03 -0000 Hi, In my research before posting this question, I saw this same question in numerous places, but I never saw a resolution! I have qpopper 4.0.5 running from inetd on FBSD 4.11. I start it thus: /usr/local/libexec/qpopper When I connect from my Mac to check my mail, I see the following in / var/log/messages: Jun 19 19:45:18 moe qpopper[199]: charles at 192.168.254.3 (192.168.254.3): -ERR [SYS/TMP] POP authentication DB not abailable (user charles): No such file or directory (2) Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 10:36:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC97A16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:36:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D78343D55 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:36:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:37:15 +0100 Message-ID: <42B69C30.6070603@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:36:32 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 10:37:15.0724 (UTC) FILETIME=[06A078C0:01C57584] Cc: Sandy Rutherford , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:36:38 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>Sandy >>Rutherford >>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:52 PM >> >> >>In order to boost read performance, a RAID card should interleave >>reading from a RAID-1 volume by reading alternately from one drive and >>then the other. You can see this in alternate blinking of the >>activity lights of the drives. If you are not seeing this when >>copying a large file, then this would suggest that a RAID-1 volume is >>not working as it should. >> >> >> > >Incorrect. What you are describing is RAID-0. RAID-1 is mirroring. >Here's > > I don't think you read the message correctly. It said that *reads* were interleaved not that the *data* was interleaved. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 11:07:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FAE16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A04943D58 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-27-86-22.san.res.rr.com [66.27.86.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5KB6w2H024813 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:06:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050620040117.084eb0f0@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Sender: lists@cobalt.antimatter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:05:22 -0700 To: Charles Howse , FreeBSD Questions From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: qpopper error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:02 -0000 At 05:52 PM 6/19/2005, Charles Howse wrote: >Hi, >In my research before posting this question, I saw this same question >in numerous places, but I never saw a resolution! > >I have qpopper 4.0.5 running from inetd on FBSD 4.11. >I start it thus: /usr/local/libexec/qpopper >When I connect from my Mac to check my mail, I see the following in / >var/log/messages: > >Jun 19 19:45:18 moe qpopper[199]: charles at 192.168.254.3 >(192.168.254.3): -ERR >[SYS/TMP] POP authentication DB not abailable (user charles): No such >file or directory (2) > >Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? Did you build qpopper from ports? or ? What options did you enable or disable/ (assuming you built from ports) -Glenn >Thanks, >Charles > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 11:07:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD2716A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A472E43D58 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DkK1y-0007v0-24 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:01:30 +0200 Received: from blueice4n1.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.187]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:01:30 +0200 Received: from element by blueice4n1.de.ibm.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:01:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pavel Duda Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:07:05 +0200 Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blueice4n1.de.ibm.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041103 Thunderbird/0.9 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:53 -0000 I'm not 100% sure its writing, but when I try to write something and then use "mt -f /dev/sa0 status" I got correct status of writen files so I can just assume that everything is OK. Tape is fine I was using it in work in DDS2 tape drive. I have some problem with brand new tapes (DDS2 and DDS3) Serials are not problem. I have turned them off temporarily. Today I will try to read tape recorded on my machine im my work. Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > How do you know it's actually writing? Can you remove the tape and > put it in another DDS3 drive and see your files? > > Are you sure your using a DDS125 tape? > > Do you regularly use a cleaning cartridge on this drive? > > I would also suggest you try FreeBSD 4.11 on this system - looks > like your serial ports aren't working, either. > > Ted > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pavel Duda >>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:23 PM >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: DDS Tape problems >> >> >>Hi, >>I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on >>it but not >>read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape drive >>hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. Does >>somebody have experience with this ? >> >>My specs : >>FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 >>and tape drive Python 04106. >> >>I'm attaching dmesg output. >> >>Thanks for any advice.... >> Pavel Duda >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 11:15:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD8516A422 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:15:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6499343D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:15:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DkK9S-0001DV-G1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:09:14 +0200 Received: from blueice1n1.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.163]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:09:14 +0200 Received: from element by blueice1n1.de.ibm.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:09:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pavel Duda Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:14:42 +0200 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <20050619222145.GB37620@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blueice1n1.de.ibm.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041103 Thunderbird/0.9 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <20050619222145.GB37620@wantadilla.lemis.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:15:19 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 19 June 2005 at 21:22:43 +0200, Pavel Duda wrote: > >>Hi, >>I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on it but not >>read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape drive >>hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. Does >>somebody have experience with this ? >> >>My specs : >>FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 >>and tape drive Python 04106. >> >>I'm attaching dmesg output. > > > I don't have time to investigate the status output in detail, but at > first glance the output looks consistent with hardware failure. I've > had this so many times with tape drives, in particular DDS, that I > have given up using them altogether: not a single one survived its > guarantee period. If it's not the drive, it could be the tape, though > I've seen far fewer problems in this area. Does this drive (and tape) > work in other systems? Yes. I was recently using it in my AIX Netfinity machine. Some tapes used for test are new. I will test to record something and read it in machine in work. > > I don't think it's termination; you say you only see the errors during > reading, and that doesn't fit. > Termination is OK and there is only tape drive at this time (all unnecessary drives were removed to minimize possible interferences). > What does the drive do when you try to read it? A lot of > back-and-forth is usually an indication of hardware read errors. > Both LEDs are on and tape drive doesn't react to eject button. > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > The virus contained in this message was not detected. > > Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 11:23:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE55316A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:23:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odumat@netkom-sachsen.de) Received: from mail01.netkom-sachsen.de (mail01.netkom-sachsen.de [145.253.229.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAB243D55 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:23:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odumat@netkom-sachsen.de) Received: from [192.168.2.50] (helo=localhost) by mail01.netkom-sachsen.de with esmtpsa (TLS encrypted) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:23:02 +0200 Received: from oli by localhost with local (Exim 4.51) id 1DkKN8-0004Zr-Aj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:23:22 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:23:22 +0200 From: Oliver Dumat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050620112322.GA17521@exim> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: Received-SPF: mail01.netkom-sachsen.de: 192.168.2.50 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of odumat@netkom-sachsen.de X-NetKom-Signature: 3ea3e9a28599f3c3605e663884cc620a Organization: NetKom GmbH X-NetKom-GmbH-Security: scanned for dangerous contents and viruses X-NetKom-GmbH-Security: some headers removed for security reasons X-Sender-Id: odumat Subject: strange behavior when libnss-mysql is querying a server with tcp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:23:04 -0000 hi folks iam using freebsd 5.4 with libnss-mysql 1.4 and mysql-client40. libnss-mysql querys on localhost through a socket with no problems. if i want libnss-mysql querys a database host i get errors: - the connection defintivly works to the other server (veryfied with the mysql client) - the connection will be opened and after that reseted from my server - no data is exchanged (no authentication against mysqld and all) - i also verifyed it with the same libnss-mysql-1.4 on my linux system - it works perfectly (same configs (some querys are adapted)) i hope you can give me a hint where i have to search to fix this problem. write if you want me to provide any more informations. thanx a lot for your help Oliver Dumat ome of the debug log: s_mysql_next_key: Found: username -> hosting [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: EXIT (TRUE) [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: Found: password -> password [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: EXIT (TRUE) [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: Found: port -> 3306 [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: EXIT (TRUE) [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_next_key: EXIT (FALSE) [1596]: _nss_mysql_load_config_file: EXIT [1596]: _nss_mysql_validate_config: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_validate_config: EXIT (TRUE) [1596]: _nss_mysql_load_config: EXIT (NSS_SUCCESS) [1596]: _nss_mysql_init: EXIT (NSS_SUCCESS) [1596]: _nss_mysql_load_config: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_load_config: EXIT (NSS_SUCCESS) [1596]: _nss_mysql_build_query: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_build_query: BYNONE creating initial query [1596]: _nss_mysql_build_query: EXIT (NSS_SUCCESS) [1596]: _nss_mysql_run_query: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_run_query: Executing query: SELECT domain,pass,webspace FROM access [1596]: _nss_mysql_connect_sql: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_check_existing_connection: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_check_existing_connection: EXIT (FALSE) [1596]: _nss_mysql_load_config: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_load_config: EXIT (NSS_SUCCESS) [1596]: _nss_mysql_set_options: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_set_options: EXIT [1596]: _nss_mysql_connect_sql: Connecting to db.mynetwork.local [1596]: _nss_mysql_connect_sql: EXIT (NSS_UNAVAIL) [1596]: _nss_mysql_run_query: EXIT (NSS_UNAVAIL) [1596]: _nss_mysql_lookup: EXIT (NSS_UNAVAIL) [1596]: _nss_mysql_getgrent_r: EXIT (NSS_UNAVAIL) [1596]: _nss_mysql_setgrent: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_reset_ent: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_close_result: ENTER [1596]: _nss_mysql_close_result: EXIT [1596]: _nss_mysql_reset_ent: EXIT [1596]: _nss_mysql_setgrent: EXIT (NSS_SUCCESS) -- Oliver Dumat | NetKom GmbH - Netze & Kommunikationssysteme PGP-Key: 0x5159507F | Gewerbepark Mockritz Tel: 03431/589-0 | 04720 Großweitzschen Fax: 03431/589-399 | www.netkom-sachsen.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 11:23:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97D116A422 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:23:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9E543D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:23:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DkKGw-000361-Nq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:16:58 +0200 Received: from blueice1n1.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.163]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:16:58 +0200 Received: from element by blueice1n1.de.ibm.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:16:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pavel Duda Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:21:39 +0200 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <42B5E723.7080503@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blueice1n1.de.ibm.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041103 Thunderbird/0.9 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <42B5E723.7080503@dial.pipex.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:23:14 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Pavel Duda wrote: > >> Hi, >> I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on it but >> not read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape >> drive hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. >> Does somebody have experience with this ? >> >> My specs : >> FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 >> and tape drive Python 04106. > > > Not terribly helpful, but I have a DAT2 working with an Adaptec 2940A. > It's worked since forever and is fine with 5.4 though I never ran > 5.1/2/3. Is the machine it's attached to dual-boot? I.e. can you test > the tape drive in Windows, or Linux for example? (Well, they have to be > good for something :-)) Is this a recent problem or is this the first > time you've tried using this drive? Can you try another SCSI adapter? > I've run mine (for testing only) off the cheapest rubbish I got free > with a SCSI CDRW and it was fine. > I was trying to use Tekram SCSI adapter with same result. I have taken this DDS tape from my AIX machine (netfinity) where it was working wo problems. > The only other guess would be termination. Has anything else on your > SCSI chain changed? Is the terminator properly plugged in? > Termination should be fine. I have tried both variants - termination on tape and termination via active terminator on cable. > --Alex > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 12:37:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0712B16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5142043D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 12214 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2005 12:37:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by salvador with SMTP; 20 Jun 2005 12:37:34 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050620123734.NXAI28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:37:34 +0800 Message-ID: <42B6B83B.4070004@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:36:11 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050620094909.184064BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050620094909.184064BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:38 -0000 Hi, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > I am curious why it's so difficult to get a simple and straight > forward list of FreeBSD's features, that normal people can understand? > There is no real answer to this question. > I am trying to write one of the largest articles ever to be published > on www.PCWorld.no -- to only say good things about FreeBSD. But I want > it clear what good things to say. > This sounds good. How much time is left for you to write it? > http://www.freebsd.org/features.html is alright, but not the best. > Using super-advanced jargons, it says what they are, but not what they do. > At least not in a way normal people can understand. > FreeBSD is a typical system driven by technical people. Or, as I describe it for myself, if I would know marketing, I would not write software. > http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/ aims more towards the general > public, and does the job a little better. How ever they don't even > mention half of FreeBSD's features. > Not all applies to FreeBSD. > http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html is very, very good. > I get the feeling though, that it ain't like that no more. > It is a starting point but a bit outdated. > Any idea, people? Not really as I also do not know the current status of your article. I also have no idea what the target audience will be. Let me give you some not to technical points for a start. FreeBSD strongest and also its weakest point is that it is developed by serious people as a serious operating system who took the work of a serious university as their base. This leads easily to misunderstandings when newcommers appearing at the scene. The main advantage of FreeBSD is its stability. It just runs like a work horse. FreeBSD follows very strict principles once set. The number of exceptions to be faced during operating a FreeBSD machine are pretty much limited. All applications come via the ports tree and are delivered as source or as a binary. The user can decide on what level he/she can maintain the machine. The installation from source need compilations but it does not need any knowledge of programming. Following the same steps for all ports, is all the user has to do: cd to the directory in the ports tree make make install make clean I know some people who were to afraid to move to FreeBSD as they believed installing from source is equal to being a programmer. I hope this will start a discussion to give you the strong points of FreeBSD you need for the article. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 12:43:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305A916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:43:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tos@teleplan.no) Received: from amsfep16-int.chello.nl (amsfep16-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8134C43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:43:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tos@teleplan.no) Received: from tos ([84.118.23.89]) by amsfep16-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050620124314.HYSE16988.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@tos> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:43:14 +0200 From: "Tom Skoglund" To: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:45:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcVzHZiE/69D7nteTCaEPlQ8PK9yawAAS5OQAJ207yA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050620124314.HYSE16988.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@tos> Subject: RE: Release build problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:43:18 -0000 Just bumping this to see if someone out there might have a clue. Check the archive or something to find the mail with the scripts and log. Cheers, Tom On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:31 +0200, Tom Skoglund wrote: > Hi, > > I have inherited the responsibility for creating the releases for an > application we develop. I have studied the release script we have been > using and of course release(7), but still some small problems remain. > > The entire world/kernel build process seems to work fine, but creating > the CD's and ISO's fail. It has only created one cdrom dir (disc1) and > tries to start making the ISO for the bootonly disc, and of course > fails. I could of course fix this manually, or tweak the release > makefile to my needs, but I'd really want this script to work. > > I have attached a couple of scripts and part of a release log. This log > does not contain any info from the world/kernel build phase. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > -Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 12:46:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F2A16A421 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:46:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odumat@netkom-sachsen.de) Received: from mail01.netkom-sachsen.de (mail01.netkom-sachsen.de [145.253.229.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6280F43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:46:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odumat@netkom-sachsen.de) Received: from [192.168.2.50] (helo=localhost) by mail01.netkom-sachsen.de with esmtpsa (TLS encrypted); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:46:37 +0200 Received: from oli by localhost with local (Exim 4.51) id 1DkLfs-0004cy-N3; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:46:48 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:46:48 +0200 From: Oliver Dumat To: "Brian J. McGovern" Message-ID: <20050620124648.GA17629@exim> Mail-Followup-To: "Brian J. McGovern" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200506201239.j5KCdlni071294@spoon.beta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200506201239.j5KCdlni071294@spoon.beta.com> Sender: Received-SPF: mail01.netkom-sachsen.de: 192.168.2.50 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of odumat@netkom-sachsen.de X-NetKom-Signature: f15811ba3b97516e1b029b775fc15155 Organization: NetKom GmbH X-NetKom-GmbH-Security: scanned for dangerous contents and viruses X-NetKom-GmbH-Security: some headers removed for security reasons X-Sender-Id: odumat Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange behavior when libnss-mysql... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:46:38 -0000 hi i know that its not a firewallthing cause i verify it with the console mysql-client (same password and username) and it works like it should work. the permission thing wars the first thing i checked because its the cause of the most errors ;) Oliver Dumat On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:39:47AM -0400, Brian J. McGovern wrote: > A few thoughts... > > One possibility is that you may have a firewall in place blocking port 3306. > However, its unlikely if your normal mysql client connects. > > Keep in mind that localhost (127.0.0.1) and an ethernet interface will share > different hostname/ip semantics. The MySQL database engine may reject your > connection based on the hostname its getting when doing lookups in the > user and hosts databases. > > Anyhow, just a couple of quick things to think about... > > -Brian -- Oliver Dumat | NetKom GmbH - Netze & Kommunikationssysteme PGP-Key: 0x5159507F | Gewerbepark Mockritz Tel: 03431/589-0 | 04720 Großweitzschen Fax: 03431/589-399 | www.netkom-sachsen.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 12:54:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA7016A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dunric@centrum.cz) Received: from mail1003.centrum.cz (mail1003.centrum.cz [213.29.7.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8643143D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dunric@centrum.cz) Received: by mail255.centrum.cz id S59983893AbVFTMyK (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:54:10 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:54:10 +0200 From: "Dunric" To: X-Mailer: Centrum Mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <200506201454.26651@centrum.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: FreeBSD 5.3-release crashes when mouse not plugged in ?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:54:13 -0000 Pentium II / 433 MHz, VIA 693 chipset At kernel booting system regulary crashes followed with spontaneous restart. After many experiments I've figured out it was caused by absence of connected PS/2 mouse. It's very strange, but when I plug it in, system normaly boots and is working. It's very annoyng and this box should be dedicated to mail server without any peripherials like mouse and keyboard connected. How do I tweak kernel settings to prevent such a dumb behaviour ? Thanks in an advance Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 12:58:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A916616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:58:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5925443D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:58:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B9260E3; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:58:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19357-06; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:58:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2496660E2; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42B6BD75.3070609@makeworld.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:58:29 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew L. Gould" References: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.3.1 (20050509) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: usage of split X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:58:18 -0000 Andrew L. Gould wrote: > Regarding the usage of split to divide files into several parts: > > 1. Can the split utility be used on binary files? > > 2. How does one rejoin the resulting split files to recreate the > original file? I assume you can cat text files into a new file using > redirection (>>); but can you do that with a binary file? > > Thanks, > > Andrew Gould I had somewhat of the same question. Here's my docs on how it was explained to me: To create a tarball backup and split it up for CD burning. Something like: tar cjf - /dir/to/backup |split -b 650m - bkupname- Note that using a pipe saves s lot of space. This will produce backups in the form of bkupname-aa, bkupname-ab etc. Restoring the backup would be something like: cd /parent/of/backupdir; cat /path/to/bkup/bkupname-* |tar xjf - Note that you need to have all backup files on a disk for this to work properly. This is what I do to archive my system to a CD Rom. It's sorta like what winzip does with diskette spanning. -- Best regards, Chris The man who has no more problems is out of the game. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 12:58:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E5D16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:58:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: from smtp-out3.tiscali.nl (smtp-out3.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCC543D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:58:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: from edsger (195-241-9-180-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl [195.241.9.180]) by smtp-out3.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C168011011; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:58:31 +0200 (CEST) From: "Freek Nossin" To: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:58:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcVzINNT0WbkNc5PQQSb0osnCxV7lwCdPbyA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Message-Id: <20050620125831.06C168011011@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> Subject: Battlefield 2 Server won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:58:37 -0000 Hello, I was happy when I saw that the Battlefield 2 Linux Server was released. Now I finally had the chance to run this server (a freebsd machine ofcourse ;)) I thought. After a smooth install (the most annoying parts was accepting the agreements) I tried to run the server. I entered the following command in my BF2 directory: ./start.sh And then I got this "very nice" error message: /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `GLIBCPP_3.2.2' not found (required by /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f) The library the program was looking for wasn't in the location it expected, as it is a linux library. I made a symbolic link to the correct file: $ls -al /usr/lib/libstdc++.* -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1709842 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so -> libstdc++.so.4 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 834196 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.4 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 Jun 15 15:02 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1705326 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++_p.a and $ls -al /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 18 Mar 21 21:42 /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4181584 Sep 4 2002 /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.1 but I still get the same error message. Perhaps it has something to do with the note about GLIBCPP_3.2.2. I checked my GCC version, which is 3.2.1. Can this be the cause? Or what can else cause this kind of error? I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3 You could make my day I one of you know how to solve this! Kind Regards, Dennis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:05:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F236F16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:05:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE5343D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:05:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DkLyC-0005D6-17 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:05:44 -0500 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:05:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:05:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: utility that will dump a web page to std out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:05:49 -0000 Hello, Does anyone know of a utility that will get a webpage and dump the output to standard out? I was going to use wget, but it dumps the output to a file. Any ideas? Thanks /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:11:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F23616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkyaqoob2005@yahoo.com) Received: from web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E847843D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkyaqoob2005@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 86824 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jun 2005 13:11:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MHadYqc0lJzAdJeqmTtgXzP7L0lgjYJzzFfuCXbxaY7hpMSs/JirrLraJ2Icosw+ZSHJoPoSU1ShPVOY7z6WVgUtHUAT5GVI5S9N9QuFDRjH1zUSs95565RAUyPGFTVsqrcFBx5jRQNebqY0H4sFM0RYMOtb2zAky5p2QJPaOsU= ; Message-ID: <20050620131127.86822.qmail@web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.231.146.130] by web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:27 PDT Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:28 -0000 # pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui The package cvsup-without-gui is installed successfully. When i run this below command # cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.uk.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile could not connect to the site mirror. --------------------------------- parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile" connecting to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org cannot connect to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org: connection refused will retry at 23:15:30 -------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:11:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE05716A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trenktaz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9084343D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trenktaz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so669707wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gIjtNRtKkr8g+Oa6hl+mK/somjPKf7khn7EbhId+5CLeRnbWQxfT/tv31KwdAYRvWkGRYpKs2ddoWREUDzdyemlHR5HVsBT6eaW7DR7xdsf2sTP0qT9LCCpwNc0dUK9av+b3Gt7PCqmpqA2U8VqDKLAD2fX3i6pZ+Rf3azUyGKw= Received: by 10.54.98.17 with SMTP id v17mr2662877wrb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.61 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:11:51 +0300 From: Mantas Smelevicius To: brianjohn@fusemail.com In-Reply-To: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that will dump a web page to std out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mantas Smelevicius List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:52 -0000 --output-document=3D/dev/cuaa0 for example not work? On 6/20/05, Brian John wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone know of a utility that will get a webpage and dump the output > to standard out? I was going to use wget, but it dumps the output to a > file. Any ideas? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > /Brian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 Pagarbiai / Best regards Mantas Smelevicius http://mantas.lt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:13:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357DC16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:13:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from agerber@ncsu.edu) Received: from uni00mr.unity.ncsu.edu (uni00mr.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62DC43D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:12:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from agerber@ncsu.edu) Received: from webmail.ncsu.edu (uni21wi.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.2.141]) by uni00mr.unity.ncsu.edu (8.13.4/8.13.3/N.20050331.02) with ESMTP id j5KDCGR5007667; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 152.1.10.109 (SquirrelMail authenticated user agerber) by webmail.ncsu.edu with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3470.152.1.10.109.1119273156.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> References: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:36 -0400 (EDT) From: agerber@ncsu.edu To: brianjohn@fusemail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.20.10 X-Spam-Status: No, Hits=10% X-Spam-Level: X Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that will dump a web page to std out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:13:00 -0000 > Hello, > Does anyone know of a utility that will get a webpage and dump the output > to standard out? I was going to use wget, but it dumps the output to a > file. Any ideas? > > Thanks > > /Brian Lynx is pretty easy to use for this: lynx -dump http://www.google.com -- Alan Gerber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:22:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4200D16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:22:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from didier.wiroth@mcesr.etat.lu) Received: from postino-2.etat.lu (postino-2.etat.lu [194.154.205.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDE943D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:22:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from didier.wiroth@mcesr.etat.lu) Received: from avirus-1.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.6]) by postino-2.etat.lu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B328B11C4EB1 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:22:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from avirus-1.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.6]) by localhost (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 1) with ESMTP id A212D23AEE for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:22:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes-1.cie.etat.lu (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) by dispatch-1.cie.etat.lu (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 1) with ESMTP id 90DAC23AEC for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:22:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes-1.cie.etat.lu (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) by store.etat.lu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IID00A4GX5T6TD0@store.etat.lu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:22:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: from lucy ([148.110.43.189]) by store.etat.lu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IID00GQAX5QAKB0@store.etat.lu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:22:41 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:22:38 +0200 From: Didier Wiroth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <0IID00GQCX5TAKB0@store.etat.lu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcV1myEdhnYcAtggTcKxpBv5ZVy5qA== Subject: missing good and stable newsreader (free or commercial) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:22:44 -0000 Hi, I'm missing a valuable free or commercial freebsd newsreader. Under xp I use grabit from (www.shemes.com). I tried the pan newsreader but it permanently crashes when reading and caching "large" newsgroups (more than 100mb of cache). Are there good and stable freebsd newsreader available? It should be able to do the following: 1) decoding binary attachments 2) (if possible) nzb file support 3) easy to use P.S: I tried grabit with wine under freebsd, unfortunately grabit crashes, so this is not an alternative! Thank you very much for suggestions! Didier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:24:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7BE16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:24:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4105E43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:24:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2Dk-1DkMFz36JF-0000Hh; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:24:07 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:27:48 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050620151328.M11229@www.pukruppa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:24:14 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> >>> What model of Proliant? >> ML 350 G4 >> > > Oh good, we have a customer that has been looking at one of these > for FreeBSD and I'm glad to hear that you didn't have problems with it. Absolutely smooth - and I am really no kind of computer expert. > With these all you get is hot-swap support although you might have > to do a camcontrol rescan after swapping the disk. Yes, I have read that in some recent thread. > Actually, the Windows management tools for this raid controller on a > server are observational as well. There is no rebuild tool or anything > like that. > When we set these systems up > for customers (All the recent Proliants use the same RAID controller) > we usually configure them RAID-5 with 4 physical disks, the setup will > set 3 of the disks in the array, and one a hot-spare. And in the event > of a disk failure, which you can tell by looking at the disk drive > lights, > or going into the management interface, you simply pull out the bad disk > and put in the replacement and the RAID card takes care of the rest of > it. The City of Wuppertal couldn't buy me a third disc, because that would have superceded the limit of 2.5 kEURO, which would have required some special administrative act ... :-) . > As for knowing if a disk has failed, > I think the only way to know is to watch the little lights on the disk > front. After reading Alex' story about running a RAID 1 with a defect disc for three years, I believe it will suffice, when I check things with every system upgrade. Uli. ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:25:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D32116A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:25:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trenktaz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABD043D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:25:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trenktaz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so602112wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:25:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q/rXK++ZA8mm4E28281tjiHlNV/iTVkiBdQFal534IWq45oma+dzCHttxZYD283yKDrsc3toTwmhTnHvA65tc+C+ZFoIKTqmR9nAQRyHBh/giVglOOfT8IpAJSI0tRgNcR4zEMqgF85nP1sTDFQnwdNhmmxqSTnyCcJYzRN3zUw= Received: by 10.54.68.14 with SMTP id q14mr2659758wra; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.61 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:25:20 +0300 From: Mantas Smelevicius To: Didier Wiroth In-Reply-To: <0IID00GQCX5TAKB0@store.etat.lu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <0IID00GQCX5TAKB0@store.etat.lu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: missing good and stable newsreader (free or commercial) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mantas Smelevicius List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:25:21 -0000 mozilla thunderbird free and pretty good :-) exept (combine and decode) :) On 6/20/05, Didier Wiroth wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm missing a valuable free or commercial freebsd newsreader. >=20 > Under xp I use grabit from (www.shemes.com). > I tried the pan newsreader but it permanently crashes when reading and > caching "large" newsgroups (more than 100mb of cache). >=20 > Are there good and stable freebsd newsreader available? > It should be able to do the following: > 1) decoding binary attachments > 2) (if possible) nzb file support > 3) easy to use >=20 > P.S: I tried grabit with wine under freebsd, unfortunately grabit > crashes, so this is not an alternative! >=20 > Thank you very much for suggestions! > Didier >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 Pagarbiai / Best regards Mantas Smelevicius http://mantas.lt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:25:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D903C16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:25:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8937E43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:25:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so703770rne for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YQ5MQMGUN9N2PpLI16LJZA7PHjurevm5odhMhxxpT0oyrIDUlHxDKtlnXOUo0dZLIdMry7YPxAZ6syu2aTXzqlUw/jBCqYoobAWh/XOdWSa84Q//uXQSkyaSQscfqFZkY5YknZvxpK+Wl8rP7/MGnIaD95WmjFUMfe+DmJhas7E= Received: by 10.38.101.40 with SMTP id y40mr2180292rnb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.23 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:25:44 +0100 From: Alistair Sutton To: Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob In-Reply-To: <20050620131127.86822.qmail@web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050620131127.86822.qmail@web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alistair Sutton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:25:46 -0000 On 20/06/05, Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob wrote: > parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile" >=20 > connecting to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org >=20 > cannot connect to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org: connection refused >=20 > will retry at 23:15:30 I don't think that particular server is functioning anymore. It used to take you to a web page when viewed in a browser but it now directs you straight to a plig.org mirror. I suggest you read the handbook and find a different mirror. I used to use the cvsup.ie.freebsd.org one which was quite reliable. Al --=20 LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:46:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0999916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:46:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A2843D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:46:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB529220E9D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:46:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40831-05 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:46:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [204.26.70.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE1121D38B for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:46:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:46:01 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1880282.jvdtGiPlfR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506200846.05150.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: OT: usage of split X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:46:12 -0000 --nextPart1880282.jvdtGiPlfR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 19 June 2005 22:31, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > 1. Can the split utility be used on binary files? Yes. > 2. How does one rejoin the resulting split files to recreate the > original file? I assume you can cat text files into a new file using > redirection (>>); but can you do that with a binary file? Yes. From the first line of the cat(1) man page: "cat - concatenate files"= =2E =20 There you have it - "cat" is short for "concatenate". It's the opposite of= =20 "split". If you want to prove it to yourself, try using cmp or md5 to compare before= =20 and after versions of split-and-rejoined files. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1880282.jvdtGiPlfR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBCtsid5sRg+Y0CpvERApLHAKCKUG/OCcXw1EPRaioaBhzdOpF7sACfWL9D ft8h9NaP6y46sIDfxHDHYQ0= =LnpT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1880282.jvdtGiPlfR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:48:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD1016A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7648943D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 490FA18001DD for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:41 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 20 Jun 2005 13:48:41 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 30FF54BEAD; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:41 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:48:40 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: "Erich Dollansky" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:48:40 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050620134841.30FF54BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:42 -0000 > This sounds good. How much time is left for you to write it? A couple of weeks :) So I have a lot of time to do research. > FreeBSD is a typical system driven by technical people. Clearly its weakest point. > Or, as I describe it for myself, if I would know marketing, > I would not write software. If you knew them both, your powers wouldn't know limits. > > http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/ aims more towards the general > > public, and does the job a little better. How ever they don't even > > mention half of FreeBSD's features. > > > Not all applies to FreeBSD. Hopefully one day they will. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html is very, very good. > > I get the feeling though, that it ain't like that no more. > > > It is a starting point but a bit outdated. True. I did e-mail this Murray, he told me he was working on a new one. > > Any idea, people? >=20 > Not really as I also do not know the current status of your=20 > article. I also have no idea what the target audience will be. Actually, it's not only for the article. I also want to create an introductory report where FreeBSD meets the real life, and try to present it in the same professional manner that Apple presents their Mac OS X. Maybe some can even be used as wording for FreeBSD's new website, which they desperately need. > Let me give you some not to technical points for a start. >=20 > FreeBSD strongest and also its weakest point is that it is=20 > developed by serious people as a serious operating system who took=20 > the work of a serious university as their base. >=20 > This leads easily to misunderstandings when newcommers appearing at the s= cene. >=20 > The main advantage of FreeBSD is its stability. It just runs like a=20 > work horse. >=20 > FreeBSD follows very strict principles once set. The number of=20 > exceptions to be faced during operating a FreeBSD machine are=20 > pretty much limited. >=20 > All applications come via the ports tree and are delivered as=20 > source or as a binary. The user can decide on what level he/she can=20 > maintain the machine. >=20 > The installation from source need compilations but it does not need=20 > any knowledge of programming. Following the same steps for all=20 > ports, is all the user has to do: >=20 > cd to the directory in the ports tree > make > make install > make clean >=20 > I know some people who were to afraid to move to FreeBSD as they=20 > believed installing from source is equal to being a programmer. Yeah I know a lot of people like that :) > I hope this will start a discussion to give you the strong points=20 > of FreeBSD you need for the article. Indeed, Erich. Your kind gesture and true words have been very helpful. Thank you! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.bleed.no --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:55:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BFD16A41F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:55:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA65943D58 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:55:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j5KDtLJF006949; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j5KDtLjP006948; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:55:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200506201355.j5KDtLjP006948@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: element@email.cz (Pavel Duda) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:55:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:55:28 -0000 > > Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > Pavel Duda wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on it but > >> not read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape > >> drive hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. > >> Does somebody have experience with this ? We have had a lot of experience with seeing similar problems, but little with solving it. We have about 75 systems with mostly DDS-3 some are DDS-4. All Are SCSI. All were on Dell Poweredge machines and are which ever vendor OEM model they were installing at the moment - but we couldn't seem to identify a clear difference from one model to the next. More than half seem to have been working fine for several years. The rest have continual problems with symptoms similar to yours - it appears to write OK, but the tape is unreadable. There appears to be stuff on the tape but it is junk. I say this because skips and rewinds take about the amount of time I would expect, but of course that is not a definitive test. Also, sometimes I can cat or dd a file off the tape that is junk (eg the file is junk - not readable as anything. But often I cannot get anything at all. Some got errors during the write. I think there are multiple problems with the DDS drives, some of which may be their own hardware on internal control and some may be the SCSI controller or the drivers, but I have never been able to pin anything down and after asking several questions on the lists over several years, have had no response other than some people agreeing and some stabs with additional questions to answer that all went nowhere. In a couple of cases, getting the drive replaced seemed to fix the problem. I believe the ones that warranty replacement helped were the ones that failed during write. In others I don't think rplacement helped. Some sites have upgraded to DLT. I know none of this helps much toward solving the problem, but I post this response for moral support and in hopes of jogging someone who might know more about these things. ////jerry > >> My specs : > >> FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 > >> and tape drive Python 04106. > > > > Not terribly helpful, but I have a DAT2 working with an Adaptec 2940A. > > It's worked since forever and is fine with 5.4 though I never ran > > 5.1/2/3. Is the machine it's attached to dual-boot? I.e. can you test > > the tape drive in Windows, or Linux for example? (Well, they have to be > > good for something :-)) Is this a recent problem or is this the first > > time you've tried using this drive? Can you try another SCSI adapter? > > I've run mine (for testing only) off the cheapest rubbish I got free > > with a SCSI CDRW and it was fine. > > I was trying to use Tekram SCSI adapter with same result. I have taken > this DDS tape from my AIX machine (netfinity) where it was working wo > problems. > > > The only other guess would be termination. Has anything else on your > > SCSI chain changed? Is the terminator properly plugged in? > > Termination should be fine. I have tried both variants - termination on > tape and termination via active terminator on cable. > > > --Alex > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 13:59:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B7E16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:59:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkyaqoob2005@yahoo.com) Received: from web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B03F243D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:59:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkyaqoob2005@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37399 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jun 2005 13:59:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MoWD2QX9dGqHXuKt3V4AKXZMUYOmxNP5VUd7pFztzAO4rNvaiJe8LYA68TMC38xAxC4rz2Lm2Ax/Je43pC7Xhdfh/IXSuPl2tZOz9GKvI26rITHFB4uua4lTjWCZxVzu6Th9ZgGb1M2W6zuc2CcHwzG3QL4gpWEHge5T+8n+Pfs= ; Message-ID: <20050620135931.37397.qmail@web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.141.239.6] by web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:59:31 PDT Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:59:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob To: Alistair Sutton In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup command problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:59:32 -0000 Dear sir, I had already read the freebsd cvsup documentation http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS then i have apply this command in the freebsd.I will test it on so many mirror that are in the cvsup document .I tested this below command When i run this below command in freebsd 5.3 > # cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.uk.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile could not connect to the site mirror. ------------------------------------ parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile" connecting to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org cannot connect to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org: connection refused will retry at 23:15:30 -------------------------------------------------------------- Best Regard, Muhammad kashif Alistair Sutton wrote:On 20/06/05, Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob wrote: > parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile" > > connecting to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org > > cannot connect to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org: connection refused > > will retry at 23:15:30 I don't think that particular server is functioning anymore. It used to take you to a web page when viewed in a browser but it now directs you straight to a plig.org mirror. I suggest you read the handbook and find a different mirror. I used to use the cvsup.ie.freebsd.org one which was quite reliable. Al -- LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 14:12:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE7116A420 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:12:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@ibsd.us) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [216.155.111.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6587C43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@ibsd.us) Received: from localhost (localhost.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2965E2841C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chaos.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 71717-03-4; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.150] (c-24-0-74-121.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [24.0.74.121]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61782841A; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42B6CEEB.8050103@ibsd.us> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:59 -0500 From: Bob Bomar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pallen@donut.caltech.edu, questions@freebsd.org References: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fxp.org Cc: Subject: Re: mac osx disklabels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:12:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 pallen@donut.caltech.edu wrote: | I went to mount a UFS filesystem on an OSX prepared drive and discovered | that apparantly FreeBSD can't read mac disklabels? Is this true or am I | missing something? | OS X Uses HFS+ which FreeBSD can not read. Its an Apple format. There were some tools in ports to read HFS fs's, but not HFS+. - -- Bob Bomar bob@bomar.us http://www.bomar.us/~bob -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCts7o9Jm/aTrtdKoRArBJAJ9R9Pj3JcM9Ex7bgJSt9/YcwDy8dwCgkqY/ A8yXjtJEUXqMtLKTV0kVwHg= =kZsL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 14:28:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B885D16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:28:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7367743D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:28:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050620142858.JTOD19267.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:28:58 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Charles Howse" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:28:57 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: qpopper error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:28:59 -0000 First of all I have qpopper running on 4.10 and 5.4 with out any problems. I installed the package version. Second that error message is saying that user charles is not a valid user on the ISP where you are telling qpopper to fetch the mail from. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charles Howse Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:53 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: qpopper error Hi, In my research before posting this question, I saw this same question in numerous places, but I never saw a resolution! I have qpopper 4.0.5 running from inetd on FBSD 4.11. I start it thus: /usr/local/libexec/qpopper When I connect from my Mac to check my mail, I see the following in / var/log/messages: Jun 19 19:45:18 moe qpopper[199]: charles at 192.168.254.3 (192.168.254.3): -ERR [SYS/TMP] POP authentication DB not abailable (user charles): No such file or directory (2) Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? Thanks, Charles _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 14:29:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B947C16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E52243D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:29:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5KETXhn006852; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:29:34 +0300 Received: from flame.pc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5KETPbl000725; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:29:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5KD6gdX002198; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:06:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) X-Authentication-Warning: flame.pc: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:06:42 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050620130642.GA984@flame.pc> References: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> <200506200334.j5K3YVVi064949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200506192237.18337.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506192237.18337.algould@datawok.com> Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: usage of split X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:29:52 -0000 On 2005-06-19 22:37, "Andrew L. Gould" wrote: >On Sunday 19 June 2005 10:34 pm, Olivier Nicole wrote: >>> 2. How does one rejoin the resulting split files to recreate the >>> original file? I assume you can cat text files into a new file >>> using redirection (>>); but can you do that with a binary file? >> >> I'd say yes, you can cat a binary file (though it is likely to >> mess-up your screen). > > That's what virtual terminals are for! ;-) > What's a better way of rejoining split parts of a binary file? If you split a binary file using split(1), then just rejoin the parts with cat(1): % split -b 1400000 largefile.bin % cat x[a-z][a-z] > largefile2.bin After these two steps, you should have: largefile.bin The original binary file. xaa, xab, ... Chunks of the original file that can fit in 1.4MB floppies (does anyone use these anymore?) largefile2.bin A second copy of the original file, that was created by joining the x[a-z][a-z] chunks that split(1) created After writing this post, I realized that split(1) doesn't have an EXAMPLES section. I think we should add one :) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 14:39:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB34A16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:39:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 373C543D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:39:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 25234 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jun 2005 14:39:10 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2005 14:39:10 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 639AE67CB; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:38:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:38:58 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Brian John Message-ID: <20050620143858.GA70289@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that will dump a web page to std out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:39:12 -0000 On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:05:48AM -0500, Brian John wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone know of a utility that will get a webpage and dump the > output to standard out? I was going to use wget, but it dumps the > output to a file. Any ideas? fetch -o - http://url -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 14:59:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E9816A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:59:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBC843D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:59:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DkNkb-0009MT-4t; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:59:50 -0600 In-Reply-To: <42B6CEEB.8050103@ibsd.us> References: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> <42B6CEEB.8050103@ibsd.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <155F86DD-657A-44FF-8C5B-F9155F53A05C@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:59:46 -0600 To: Bob Bomar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: pallen@donut.caltech.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mac osx disklabels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:59:51 -0000 On Jun 20, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Bob Bomar wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > pallen@donut.caltech.edu wrote: > | I went to mount a UFS filesystem on an OSX prepared drive and > discovered > | that apparantly FreeBSD can't read mac disklabels? Is this true > or am I > | missing something? > | > > OS X Uses HFS+ which FreeBSD can not read. Its an Apple format. > There were some tools in ports to read HFS fs's, but not HFS+. OS X also supports a form of UFS btw Chad > > - -- > Bob Bomar > bob@bomar.us > http://www.bomar.us/~bob > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFCts7o9Jm/aTrtdKoRArBJAJ9R9Pj3JcM9Ex7bgJSt9/YcwDy8dwCgkqY/ > A8yXjtJEUXqMtLKTV0kVwHg= > =kZsL > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 15:13:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1336C16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3F0B43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:13:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 86331 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2005 15:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 20 Jun 2005 15:13:30 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:15:13 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050620121513.72790e30@phobos.mars.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Generating Linux binaries under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:13:32 -0000 Hello, Is there a way to compile a C program, but generating a Linux binary instead of a FreeBSD one? Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 15:17:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50F116A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mlh@ispinfo.fr) Received: from elaine.ispinfo.fr (elaine.ispinfo.fr [81.255.64.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0364743D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:17:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mlh@ispinfo.fr) Received: from uriens.ispinfo.fr (smtp0.ispinfo.fr [81.255.64.47]) by elaine.ispinfo.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA89771 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:17:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mlh@ispinfo.fr) Received: from smtpz.awape.fr (smtpz.ispinfo.fr [81.255.64.49]) by uriens.ispinfo.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id j5KFHGZ74875 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:17:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mlh@ispinfo.fr) Received: from smtpe.ispinfo.fr (smtpe.ispinfo.fr [81.255.64.52]) by smtpz.awape.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KFHEh7036606 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:17:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mlh@ispinfo.fr) Received: from [192.168.1.82] ([192.168.1.82]) by smtpe.ispinfo.fr (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j5KFHDqI045637 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:17:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mlh@ispinfo.fr) Message-ID: <42B6DDD7.80604@ispinfo.fr> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:16:39 +0200 From: ISP Informatique Organization: ISP Informatique User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050509) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Fwd: compiling mysql query browser] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:17:19 -0000 Hi, I tried to install mysql query browser from source (1.1.11, get from www.mysql.com) and I get blocked. make hang in "Making all in gtksourceview" Here is the display. Any help ? /tmp/mysql-query-browser-1.1.11/mysql-query-browser# make Making all in library Making all in source Making all in tests Making all in test_query_analyze Making all in test_query_composition Making all in test_strip_sql Making all in source Making all in linux make all-am (cd gtksourceview; ./configure --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-build-tests; make) checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... nawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking build system type... i386-unknown-freebsd5.4 checking host system type... i386-unknown-freebsd5.4 checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking for g++... g++ checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking dependency style of g++... gcc3 checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking for g77... no checking for f77... f77 checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... yes checking whether f77 accepts -g... yes checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 16384 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if gcc static flag works... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yeschecking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd5.4 ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... no checking whether to build static libraries... yes configure: creating libtool appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool checking for ld used by g++... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yeschecking for g++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yeschecking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd5.4 ld.so appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... no checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking for f77 option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if f77 PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if f77 supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yeschecking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd5.4 ld.so checking for intltool >= 0.27... 0.28 found checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes checking for string.h... (cached) yes checking for memset... yes checking for glib-genmarshal... /usr/local/bin/glib-genmarshal checking for glib-mkenums... /usr/local/bin/glib-mkenums checking whether gcc understands -Wno-sign-compare... yes checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.5.0 libgnomeprint-2.2 >= 2.2.0... yes checking DEP_CFLAGS... -DXTHREADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomeprint-2.2 checking DEP_LIBS... -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lxml2 -liconv -lm -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lz checking for re_compile_pattern... no checking for re_compile_fastmap... no checking for re_search... no checking for re_match... no checking locale.h usability... yes checking locale.h presence... yes checking for locale.h... yes checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes checking libintl.h usability... no checking libintl.h presence... no checking for libintl.h... no gnome-config: not found configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating gtksourceview-1.0.pc config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating gtksourceview/Makefile config.status: creating gtksourceview/gnu-regex/Makefile config.status: creating gtksourceview/language-specs/Makefile config.status: creating docs/Makefile config.status: creating docs/reference/Makefile config.status: creating docs/reference/version.xml config.status: creating tests/Makefile config.status: creating config.h config.status: config.h is unchanged config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing default-1 commands config.status: executing default-2 commands make all-recursive Making all in gtksourceview echo "#include \"gtksourceview-marshal.h\"" > gtksourceview-marshal.c && /usr/local/bin/glib-genmarshal --body --prefix=gtksourceview_marshal >> gtksourceview-marshal.c -- Hubert Adgié From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 15:18:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F3516A41F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:18:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ianb@opteqint.net) Received: from kalypso.opteqint.net (kalypso.opteqint.net [160.124.112.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D3B43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ianb@opteqint.net) Received: from tbnb-165-210-29.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.210.29] helo=ianb) by kalypso.opteqint.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DkO2n-000Bvw-28; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:18:43 +0200 From: "Ian Barnes" To: "'Jorn Argelo'" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:18:46 +0200 Organization: Opteq International MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <42B5D5CF.1030908@wcborstel.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcV1Db+hmFVm0nLfTF+0oM5dj8aLzwAnWvMw X-Spam-Score: -100.0 (---------------------------------------------------) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "kalypso.opteqint.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi, Thanks for that tip. I tried it, but it still doesn't work. I also tried a pkgdb -F to see if anything else was amiss. I also tried uninstalling imake6 and letting xorg install imake during the build, and even after completing the install, it moaned and bombed out. [...] Content analysis details: (-100.0 points, 4.2 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list Message-Id: <20050620151845.37D3B43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problem installing x.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:18:48 -0000 Hi, Thanks for that tip. I tried it, but it still doesn't work. I also tried a pkgdb -F to see if anything else was amiss. I also tried uninstalling imake6 and letting xorg install imake during the build, and even after completing the install, it moaned and bombed out. Any ideas ? Thanks, Ian -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jorn Argelo Sent: 19 June 2005 10:30 PM To: Ian Barnes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing x.org Ian Barnes wrote: >Hi, > >I am trying to install x.org onto my 5.4stable box. > >In /usr/ports/x11/xorg I typed make install and I get this error after a >while (It's a long error): > >making Makefiles in include/bitmaps... >imake: not found > > There you have it, you miss imake. cd /usr/ports/devel/imake-6 && make install clean Kind of weird because it should just use imake as a dependency. Might be an idea to contact the ports maintainer about it and see why imake is not included as an dependency. Cheers, Jorn >*** Error code 127 > >[snip] > >Does anyone know what could be wrong ? > >Thanks, >Ian > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 15:25:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C47416A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:25:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from gorgo.centroin.com.br (gorgo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D82A43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:25:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from hypselo.centroin.com.br (hypselo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.1]) by gorgo.centroin.com.br (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5KFPgM3017289; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:25:42 -0300 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:25:42 -0300 (EST) From: Sender: To: Pavel Duda In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:25:57 -0000 Hi, In another message you told that you take it from your AIX system. Take a look at the DIP-Switches configuration, since it should be different for that system. Look that your dmesg recognizes the tape as SCSI-2, not 3: Jun 19 20:54:32 monty kernel: sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device I have a Python DAT DDS-3 here that works fine, but the model shown in dmesg is another: sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device - Marcelo Souza On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Pavel Duda wrote: |Hi, |I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on it but not |read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape drive |hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. Does |somebody have experience with this ? | |My specs : |FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 |and tape drive Python 04106. | |I'm attaching dmesg output. | |Thanks for any advice.... | Pavel Duda | | | | | - Marcelo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 15:27:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A029816A420 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:27:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777CA43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:27:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DkOB5-000BFP-3B; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:11 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20050620121513.72790e30@phobos.mars.bsd> References: <20050620121513.72790e30@phobos.mars.bsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7D730E14-8977-4B84-A272-72E77B187677@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:10 -0600 To: Alejandro Pulver X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Generating Linux binaries under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:27:12 -0000 On Jun 20, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Alejandro Pulver wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a way to compile a C program, but generating a Linux binary > instead of a FreeBSD one? I don't know if this works but assuming you have the linux compatibility layer running % chroot /compat/linux/ /bin/bash % gcc That should use the linux gcc You may not need to do the chroot first. Just run a linux shell so % /compat/linux/bin/bash bash-2.0x# gcc may also get you there I've done similar things before Try it out Chad > > Thanks and Best Regards, > Ale > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 15:29:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C228616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:29:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from viefep16-int.chello.at (viefep16-int.chello.at [213.46.255.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A71B43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:29:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from [80.98.156.20] by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050620152859.CIOT1756.viefep16-int.chello.at@[80.98.156.20]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:28:59 +0200 Message-ID: <42B6E0BA.9060104@t-hosting.hu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:28:58 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: 4.x -> 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:29:02 -0000 Hello, it must be a well-discussed topic, but I don't know where to find a good description about upgrading from 4.x to 5.x. There is a production machine running 4.10 and the owner wants me to upgrade it to 5.4. Could somebody tell me the most important points to care? Or do You know a good howto? Cheers, Gábor Kövesdán From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 15:52:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC4316A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:52:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from stovebolt.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E772A43D58 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:52:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (adsl-68-88-130-19.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [68.88.130.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stovebolt.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17FB3FC37; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:48:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:47:48 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: John Jawed , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <18BCD3108DB1311390533CB7@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> In-Reply-To: References: <42B5D2FF.4030807@reston.demon.nl> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.0 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Odd ATI + Xorg behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:52:19 -0000 --On June 19, 2005 2:16:38 PM -0700 John Jawed wrote: > Arghhhhhhhhh! > > Ok I removed the nvidia card, reconfigured X and everything works like a > charm! There has to be a driver incompatiblity in X for my setup. Now...I > guess my options are to switch from the "ati" driver to the "radeon" > driver, and possibly from the "nv" driver to the "nvidia" driver. > > Any input would be appreciated. > Are you sure xorg will display on three screens horizontally? I had the impression that you could do two side by side or four horizontally *and* vertically. IOW, screen 1 left of screen 0, screen 2 above (or below) screen 0. I also noticed that you don't have Option "Xinerama" "True" in your ServerLayout section. Is that deliberate? I know ati cards will do xinerama-like display natively, but I wonder if using the xorg.conf Option would be more effective. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:05:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5263E16A421 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916BD43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:05:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CDEC24D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:05:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:05:33 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42B6E0BA.9060104@t-hosting.hu> In-Reply-To: <42B6E0BA.9060104@t-hosting.hu> X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Subject: Re: 4.x -> 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:05:21 -0000 On June 20, 2005 11:28 am, K=F6vesd=E1n G=E1bor wrote: > Hello, > > it must be a well-discussed topic, but I don't know where to find a good > description about upgrading from 4.x to 5.x. There is a production > machine running 4.10 and the owner wants me to upgrade it to 5.4. Could > somebody tell me the most important points to care? Or do You know a > good howto? I don't know a good howto but I did a source upgrade from 4.11 to 5.3 a whi= le=20 back. I ran into a few issues (due to laziness on my part): Some changes in kernel config files for building custom kernel. Some changes in /etc (especially rc.conf). I wound up installing a fresh /e= tc=20 and then manually adding my changes. Significant changes to the disk sub-system. I'm using vinum for disk=20 mirroring. If you are using vinum, read up on gvinum carefully. I migrated too soon. Should have waited for 5.4. 5.4 is much better than 5.= 3. =2D-=20 Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network=20 administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:06:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA65816A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:06:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDBE43D58 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:06:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:07:27 +0100 Message-ID: <42B6E996.10501@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:06:46 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alistair Sutton References: <20050620131127.86822.qmail@web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 16:07:27.0866 (UTC) FILETIME=[27956DA0:01C575B2] Cc: Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:06:49 -0000 Alistair Sutton wrote: >On 20/06/05, Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob wrote: > > > >> parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile" >> >> connecting to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org >> >> cannot connect to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org: connection refused >> >> will retry at 23:15:30 >> >> > >I don't think that particular server is functioning anymore. It used >to take you to a web page when viewed in a browser but it now directs >you straight to a plig.org mirror. > >I suggest you read the handbook and find a different mirror. I used to >use the cvsup.ie.freebsd.org one which was quite reliable. > # cvsup -g Supfile-ports Connected to cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org Updating collection ports-all/cvs Edit ports/archivers/p5-Compress-Zlib/Makefile Edit ports/archivers/p5-Compress-Zlib/distinfo [...] Sometimes I find the server unavailable, but rarely. Muhammad, please try the server again, and also try another one somewhere else. If you still have problems then it may be that there is a firewall of some kind between you the the cvsup server. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:07:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69CC16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:07:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92ACA43D55 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:07:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609DC1CC40; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:06:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from DANGER (dewnet [213.215.105.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB22F1CC41; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:06:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:06:50 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1117590848.20050620180650@rulez.sk> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= In-Reply-To: <42B6E0BA.9060104@t-hosting.hu> References: <42B6E0BA.9060104@t-hosting.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.rulez.sk X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.095 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.496, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.x -> 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:07:03 -0000 Hello Kövesdán, Monday, June 20, 2005, 5:28:58 PM, you wrote these comments: > Hello, > it must be a well-discussed topic, but I don't know where to find a good > description about upgrading from 4.x to 5.x. There is a production > machine running 4.10 and the owner wants me to upgrade it to 5.4. Could > somebody tell me the most important points to care? Or do You know a > good howto? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/migration-guide.html > Cheers, > Gábor Kövesdán -- Best Regards, DanGer, ICQ: 261701668 | e-mail protecting at: http://www.2pu.net/ http://danger.rulez.sk | proxy list at: http://www.proxy-web.com/ | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! [ Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream? - E. A. Poe ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:08:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377A816A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:08:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6E743D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:08:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5KGCihY068654; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5KGCd57068651; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:32 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050620161232.GA68586@thought.org> References: <20050618041356.GA33832@thought.org> <20050620063345.GA61011@Klabautermann.ks.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620063345.GA61011@Klabautermann.ks.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: Re: abiword (or even Ooo) and more fonts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:08:39 -0000 On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:33:45AM +0200, Christopher Illies wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 09:13:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > Once upon a time (like when I ran v 4.x) I somehow managed to > > have a bunch of ttf-derived fonts that somehow worked with > > abiword. Is there anything in x11-fonts that would give me > > access to more than the standard fonts? (Just for my rare > > snail letters that would use something fun or offbeat.) > > There is a section in the handbook about ttf fonts. I got ttf fonts to > work on my system that way. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html > > HTH, > > Christopher It does, muchly. danke! gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:11:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDF516A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:11:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3CF43D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:11:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:12:27 +0100 Message-ID: <42B6EAC2.60000@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:11:46 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <200506192231.18309.algould@datawok.com> <200506200334.j5K3YVVi064949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200506192237.18337.algould@datawok.com> <20050620130642.GA984@flame.pc> In-Reply-To: <20050620130642.GA984@flame.pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 16:12:27.0928 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA6F4180:01C575B2] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: usage of split X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:11:47 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > xaa, xab, ... Chunks of the original file that can fit > in 1.4MB floppies (does anyone use these > anymore?) > > A Linux boot floppy saved out bacon just last week, and it's still the easiest way to flash a BIOS; Partition Magic still insists on using floppies for backing up partition tables. So sadly, yes, I still use floppies. I wouldn't trust a backup to one, though, and my free collection of worthless NT installation floppies generally just gathers dust :-) --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:14:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C3616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005AA43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:14:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.7] (pool-71-109-145-221.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.145.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5KGEjEU061688 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) In-Reply-To: <155F86DD-657A-44FF-8C5B-F9155F53A05C@shire.net> References: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> <42B6CEEB.8050103@ibsd.us> <155F86DD-657A-44FF-8C5B-F9155F53A05C@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8E8A43A3-BC28-461E-8BFB-0C046485E8D8@lafn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:14:44 -0700 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Bob Bomar , pallen@donut.ugcs.caltech.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mac osx disklabels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:14:53 -0000 On Jun 20, 2005, at 07:59, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Bob Bomar wrote: > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> pallen@donut.caltech.edu wrote: >> | I went to mount a UFS filesystem on an OSX prepared drive and >> discovered >> | that apparantly FreeBSD can't read mac disklabels? Is this true >> or am I >> | missing something? >> | >> >> OS X Uses HFS+ which FreeBSD can not read. Its an Apple format. >> There were some tools in ports to read HFS fs's, but not HFS+. >> > > OS X also supports a form of UFS btw If the drive was formatted using Disk Utility there is a very hidden option for "Apple Partitioning Scheme" or "PC Partitioning Scheme". The Apple Partitioning Scheme is the default. The only documentation I could find on those options is a note that if you want to be able to mount the drive on a PC you must use the PC Partitioning Scheme. I suspect that the Apple Partitioning Scheme uses a different format for the partition map which may not be handled by anything else. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:28:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B4B16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3194443D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5KGWR5r068817 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5KGWRZ3068816 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:32:27 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050620163227.GA68751@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: any ipf wizards out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:28:18 -0000 Folks, A couple weeks ago I realized that my ipf ruleset was messing up my web access ... ad had been for months I just tried an older, simpler ipf.rules. Same results. Can anybody out there in FreeBSD-land clue me in please? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:32:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2227016A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:32:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB48A43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:32:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA5CC275 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:33:06 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050620163227.GA68751@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20050620163227.GA68751@thought.org> X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Subject: Re: any ipf wizards out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:32:52 -0000 On June 20, 2005 12:32 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > Folks, > > A couple weeks ago I realized that my ipf ruleset was messing > up my web access ... ad had been for months I just tried an > older, simpler ipf.rules. Same results. Can anybody out there > in FreeBSD-land clue me in please? Probably not without more detail. If you provided your rules someone might be able to help you debug them a bit. A description of your network would probably help too. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:36:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CD216A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:36:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67F743D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:36:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xiris.cityofpaloalto.org ([172.17.1.15]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:36:16 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:36:15 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: any ipf wizards out there? thread-index: AcV1tbswENpvJrZ/RIqdrMBOT/82igAAAtSg From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 16:36:16.0847 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E22FDF0:01C575B6] Subject: Still looking for "w" "finger" "who" commnds don't give info. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:36:21 -0000 These commands use to give me information on who is logged on in BSD 5.3 = now for some reason no information is given from these commands when = super users are logged on. Any info.? Thanks!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:49:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A3016A420 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:49:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78F743D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:49:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0197102CB5; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74895102C63 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 199.181.134.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user casey) by mail.phantombsd.org with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29946.199.181.134.212.1119286147.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) From: casey@phantombsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Subject: 5.3 spontaneously rebooting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:49:09 -0000 Due to FBSD's stability, I have never had to diagnose a kernel stability problem before!! Lately, my server has been rebooting itself for an unknown reason. There isn't anything informative in the logs. I can't find any core dumps (find / -type f -iname '*core*'). Can someone point me in the right direction towards diagnosing this? TIA, Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:51:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2148316A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:51:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8883043D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:51:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0053CC24D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:52:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:52:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Subject: Re: Still looking for "w" "finger" "who" commnds don't give info. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:51:59 -0000 On June 20, 2005 12:36 pm, Dixit, Viraj wrote: > These commands use to give me information on who is logged on in BSD 5.3 > now for some reason no information is given from these commands when super > users are logged on. Any info.? Thanks!! They work on my 5.4-p2 system. Did you remember to add back sessreg if you wanted X logins to be recorded as well? -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 16:58:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC3616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:58:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah.list@gmail.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao05.cox.net (fed1rmmtao05.cox.net [68.230.241.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2723843D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:58:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah.list@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.22.201] (really [68.7.184.103]) by fed1rmmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050620165808.KQLO8651.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@[192.168.22.201]>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:58:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <29946.199.181.134.212.1119286147.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> References: <29946.199.181.134.212.1119286147.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <92F3693F-8716-41BC-8C18-378B5EBDCE65@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sean Hafeez Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:58:02 -0700 To: casey@phantombsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 spontaneously rebooting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:58:10 -0000 It most likely hardware. Heat or RAM. Get memtest86 and see... On Jun 20, 2005, at 9:49 AM, casey@phantombsd.org wrote: > Due to FBSD's stability, I have never had to diagnose a kernel > stability > problem before!! Lately, my server has been rebooting itself for an > unknown reason. There isn't anything informative in the logs. I > can't find > any core dumps (find / -type f -iname '*core*'). Can someone point > me in > the right direction towards diagnosing this? > > TIA, > Casey > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:04:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD70416A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:04:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8362743D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:04:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9BBC24D; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:04:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: "Dixit, Viraj" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:04:16 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Cc: Subject: Re: Still looking for "w" "finger" "who" commnds don't give info. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:04:03 -0000 On June 20, 2005 12:54 pm, you wrote: > I am not sure what you are telling me, please explain. Thanks! First, I do not have the same problem that you have. So it is probably not a bug in the OS but an installation error on your system. That is w, finger, and who are working as expected (for me). Second. If you want to include the status of people that logged in via xdm(1) (or equivalent), you need to use the sessreg(1) utility in order to update the utmp and wtmp files (those files are used by w, finger, and who to determine the login status of users). Also, please reply to the mailing list. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ean Kingston > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:52 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Still looking for "w" "finger" "who" commnds don't give info. > > On June 20, 2005 12:36 pm, Dixit, Viraj wrote: > > These commands use to give me information on who is logged on in BSD 5.3 > > now for some reason no information is given from these commands when > > super users are logged on. Any info.? Thanks!! > > They work on my 5.4-p2 system. Did you remember to add back sessreg if you > wanted X logins to be recorded as well? -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:07:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B91816A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:07:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF04B43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:07:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF0C2102CA2; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A75102C6A; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 199.181.134.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user casey) by mail.phantombsd.org with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12730.199.181.134.212.1119287254.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <92F3693F-8716-41BC-8C18-378B5EBDCE65@gmail.com> References: <29946.199.181.134.212.1119286147.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <92F3693F-8716-41BC-8C18-378B5EBDCE65@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) From: casey@phantombsd.org To: "Sean Hafeez" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Cc: casey@phantombsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 spontaneously rebooting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:07:37 -0000 I apologize, the machine is running 5.4. > It most likely hardware. Heat or RAM. > > Get memtest86 and see... > > > On Jun 20, 2005, at 9:49 AM, casey@phantombsd.org wrote: > > >> Due to FBSD's stability, I have never had to diagnose a kernel >> stability >> problem before!! Lately, my server has been rebooting itself for an >> unknown reason. There isn't anything informative in the logs. I >> can't find >> any core dumps (find / -type f -iname '*core*'). Can someone point >> me in >> the right direction towards diagnosing this? >> >> TIA, >> Casey >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:13:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249D616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:13:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) Received: from ness.plymouth.edu (ness.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA1843D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:13:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) Received: (from root@localhost) by ness.plymouth.edu (8.13.3/8.12.10) id j5KHDD1O037482 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:13:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) Received: from ness.plymouth.edu (ness.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.140]) by ness.plymouth.edu (8.13.3/8.12.4) with ESMTP id j5KHDDbv037476 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:13:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Ted Wisniewski Organization: Plymouth State To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:13:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506201313.12479.ted@wiz.plymouth.edu> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on hyperion.plymouth.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 Subject: Netgraph - 2 physical interfaces mirrored to 3rd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:13:20 -0000 I pieced some info together from various sources... See the following script (running on 5.4-p2, comments are in the script). I seem to have run into a roadblock though... I am hoping someone else has seen this and solved it. Ted #!/bin/csh # +---------+ # (sk0) <--->| |<---> (sk1) # | | # +---------+ # ^ # | # (xl0) # # In this case, sk0 and sk1 are two sides of a firewall and # xl0 represents a physical interface that the traffic is to # be mirrored to. The intent is to create a place where a # sniffer / network monitoring tool can be connected. # # The problem... # # As soon as "ngctl connect sk0: xl0:lower lower many0" is run, # No traffic passes on sk0. Am I missing something obvious? # # kldload ng_ether kldload ng_one2many kldload netgraph ifconfig sk0 up ifconfig sk1 up ifconfig xl0 inet 10.10.10.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX mediaopt ful l-duplex up ngctl list ngctl mkpeer xl0: one2many lower one # # The following line causes no traffic to pass on "sk0". # ngctl connect sk0: xl0:lower lower many0 # ngctl connect sk1: xl0:lower lower many1 ngctl msg sk0: setpromisc 1 ngctl msg sk1: setpromisc 1 ngctl msg xl0:lower setconfig "{ xmitAlg=1 failAlg=1 enabledLinks=[ 1 1 ] }" -- | Ted Wisniewski E-Mail: ted@mail.plymouth.edu | | Manager, Systems Group WEB: http://oz.plymouth.edu/~ted/ | | Information Technology Services | | Plymouth State University Phone: (603) 535-2661 | | Plymouth NH, 03264 Fax: (603) 535-2263 | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:29:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C7C16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:29:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas.henry@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E2443D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:29:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas.henry@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so156503nzp for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tNMubqaILYoDYC51h6OS4o9yx6oMr0G1LohY+x5+meASk9EPr2WrkuP6Rrl224uDjCKmA+q5IE/4s3IC7fzABsH5R015UzeOU5bM+wQAQcaUyzwLtHFnHG++yru8kMSUfPI9MzAIHi52TWGOmUtAoFHb7d3YqyrG7LcQ0z2GY1k= Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr3162322nzb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.9 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:29:13 -0400 From: Nicholas Henry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Installing Apache 2 with custom options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nicholas Henry List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:29:15 -0000 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 I have apache2 running which I installed from ports. All is running well. I would like to install the proxy module. As I'm relatively new to FreeBSD and Unix I'm not sure which is the best way to go. Is there a way to change the config options before doing a make. How do I do this so I add to the existing config options with out "overwriting them". Can you do this with ports? Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers, Nicholas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:29:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22E716A41F; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC0743D49; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5KHTqAd068473; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:29:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <42B6FD0D.9070001@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:29:49 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050603 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Sher References: <000801c575bb$bcb3a0b0$6401a8c0@dell1> In-Reply-To: <000801c575bb$bcb3a0b0$6401a8c0@dell1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/946/Sun Jun 19 03:41:16 2005 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: After Install -- Where is FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:29:56 -0000 Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > Well, the good news is that my first install of FreeBSD went > perfectly. I selected ALL for installation of ports and packages so > it took a good hour to install everything from my two CD's. And some > of the packages encountered an error and could not be installed (they > told me to look in the debugger for details). > > Windows XP came through completely unscathed and in perfect working > order on my first primary HD. > > All that's missing now is FreeBSD. After completing my install, I > exited. FreeBSD exited normally, then rebooted. But no sign of > FreeBSD. Instead, Windows came up. I do recall choosing to have a > boot manager but never actually saw the screen and boot-up options. > So, I went back into Free BSD by switching back to the CD in my Bios, > but that's as far as I dare go on my own. What should I do? Am I > missing something? Just letting you know that this is probably best suited to the freebsd-questions mailing list. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology A lost ounce of gold may be found, a lost moment of time never. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:41:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119B016A451 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:41:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FD243D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:42:00 +0100 Message-ID: <42B6FFBF.9000605@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:41:19 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Sher References: <000801c575bb$bcb3a0b0$6401a8c0@dell1> <42B6FD0D.9070001@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <42B6FD0D.9070001@centtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 17:42:00.0740 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CE14E40:01C575BF] Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: After Install -- Where is FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:41:23 -0000 Benjamin Sher wrote: >> Dear friends: >> All that's missing now is FreeBSD. After completing my install, I >> exited. FreeBSD exited normally, then rebooted. But no sign of >> FreeBSD. Instead, Windows came up. I do recall choosing to have a >> boot manager but never actually saw the screen and boot-up options. >> So, I went back into Free BSD by switching back to the CD in my Bios, >> but that's as far as I dare go on my own. What should I do? Am I >> missing something? > I don't know why the boot manager isn't installed, but it's very easy to install it again. Boot from the CD, select Post Installation Config, then select the disk Label editor. Pick the first slice and make it bootable (S) then W to write you changes and you are asked if you want to install the boot manager. Say yes. Quit out and reboot, taking out the CD. While I'm getting things to work I usually leave the floppy and CD as BIOS boot options before the hard disk. Once I know it all works, I fix the BIOS to look for the disk first. If you don't have a bootable CD or floppy in the drive, then the system boots from disk. This is from memory, but I'm pretty sure it's correct. As long as you do nothing other than making a slice bootable, then you should do no damage. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:42:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D34916A420 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:42:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D0D43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:42:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5KHgYbZ006491; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:42:34 +0300 Received: from flame.pc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5KKgN6a029038; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:42:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by flame.pc (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5KKgNvb029023; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:42:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: flame.pc: keramida set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:42:22 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Benjamin Sher Message-ID: <20050620204222.GD727@flame.pc> References: <42B6DFA1.3030203@zebra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B6DFA1.3030203@zebra.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD -- urgent hard drive issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:42:38 -0000 ## Redirected to freebsd-questions, since this is a more appropriate ## mailing list for this sort of discussion. On 2005-06-20 10:24, Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.4. The install CD that I created in > Nero is fine. I also printed out all the info I could on my system. I > have two primary hard drives, each 40G in capacity: The first one has > Windows XP on it. The second disk is completely blank. FreeBSD doesn't use letters for naming disk partitions. It uses a sort of hierarchical naming scheme, starting with the raw disks themselves, which are called: ad0 Primary master ad1 Primary slave ad2 Secondary master ad3 Secondary slave You currently have Windows installed on what FreeBSD calls "ad0". Thus, you should be _VERY_ careful while installing FreeBSD not to change anything on the "ad0" disk. You can partition, slice and assign space of "ad1" to your FreeBSD installation, in (more or less) any way you want. > I would like to install FreeBSD on this second disk and to use it > entirely. When I booted up to the Install screen I saw the option of > choosing ado or ad1. I did read about this earlier on the FreeBSD home > page. I chose ad1and then saw the Fdisk screen. I don't need to Fdisk > anything. I just want to use the second primary hard drive. "ad1" is your primary slave drive. You have done fine so far. > I am very much afraid that I might do something wrong and wipe out my > Windows installation. So, I chickened out and decided to ask for > further guidance from the list. I would recommend a good backup of your Windows installation first. Then you have no need to be afraid that you'll mess the Windows setup, because even if you do it won't matter at all. You'll just restore everything from your backup. > Could you please advise me on what precisely I should do at this > critical moment? Read the installation chapter of the Handbook. Very very carefully. Then save a good backup of your Windows machine offline, away from the installation machine. Finally, install FreeBSD, tweak it, hack it, play around as much as you want with it. If you have any questions you have while installing FreeBSD, or after the installation is done, please feel free to ask by posting at this mailing list that is dedicated to general FreeBSD questions: << freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Have fun with your FreeBSD installation, - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:48:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D658416A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB9A43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 34F9D4143; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330C640EF; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050620134427.R12790@neptune.atopia.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:48:37 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Please post dmesg output from both systems. The systems end up crashing so I can't do a dmesg.... or do you mean a general dmesg when they are stable? >> Here is the output from Caliban: http://paste.atopia.net/126. The machine crashed again today. The new error message was like the above link, it had the same process (slapd), etc. This time; however, it gave some different data. Here's the error: Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid=0; apc id=0 fault virtual address = 0x24 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0644eff stack pointer = 0x10:0xdaa1bb48 frame pointer = 0x20:0xdaa1bb5c code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = dpc0, pres1, def321, gran 1 processoreflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 442 (slapd) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 0 boot() called on cpu #0 uptime: 4d4h33m1s cannot dump. No dump device defined. Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort.... rebooting.... cpu_reset called on cpu #0 cpu-reset: stopping other cpus spin lock sched lock held by 0xc1fd4900 for 75 seconds The machine never rebooted. Thought this error might help. This is on the other server that keeps dieing with slapd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:49:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E110C16A41C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:49:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ed@hoeg.nl) Received: from palm.hoeg.nl (mx0.hoeg.nl [83.98.131.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A223843D4C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:49:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ed@hoeg.nl) Received: by palm.hoeg.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D69C217021; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:49:25 +0200 From: Ed Schouten To: Benjamin Sher Message-ID: <20050620174925.GF61190@hoeg.nl> References: <000801c575bb$bcb3a0b0$6401a8c0@dell1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uc35eWnScqDcQrv5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c575bb$bcb3a0b0$6401a8c0@dell1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: After Install -- Where is FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:49:28 -0000 --uc35eWnScqDcQrv5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Benjamin, * Benjamin Sher wrote: > Well, the good news is that my first install of FreeBSD went > perfectly. I selected ALL for installation of ports and packages so it > took a good hour to install everything from my two CD's. And some of > the packages encountered an error and could not be installed (they > told me to look in the debugger for details). >=20 > Windows XP came through completely unscathed and in perfect working > order on my first primary HD. >=20 > All that's missing now is FreeBSD. After completing my install, I > exited. FreeBSD exited normally, then rebooted. But no sign of > FreeBSD. Instead, Windows came up. I do recall choosing to have a boot > manager but never actually saw the screen and boot-up options. So, I > went back into Free BSD by switching back to the CD in my Bios, but > that's as far as I dare go on my own. What should I do? Am I missing > something? We really appreciate your interest in the FreeBSD operating system. There's only one small thing I'd like to point you at and that's that is supposed to be a mailing list about the development about the FreeBSD OS development tree (FreeBSd 6.0 at the moment). I guess the people at could be more useful to you. I've already CC'd this message to them, so I hope that they'll mail back to you. I do have one tip for you about your problem; if you've installed FreeBSD on a machine with multiple harddisks (first disk Windows, second disk FreeBSD) and your BIOS is set up to boot from the first harddisk (HDD-0), it will just boot Windows, without even' looking at the bootloader on the second harddisk. Search for the 'Boot device priority' options in your PC BIOS Setup. Good luck! Yours sincerely, --=20 Ed Schouten --uc35eWnScqDcQrv5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCtwGlmVI4SHXwmhERAoFoAJ9951n3EOB2cjz8zvNfoEiqIo8pEACfQB7w UpdlonoTOBVUktwA2wLz7dA= =ZCsH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uc35eWnScqDcQrv5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:52:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06C916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:52:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA1043D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:52:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:52:47 +0100 Message-ID: <42B70245.6030108@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:52:05 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicholas Henry References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 17:52:47.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE398790:01C575C0] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Apache 2 with custom options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:52:08 -0000 Nicholas Henry wrote: >FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 > >I have apache2 running which I installed from ports. All is running >well. I would like to install the proxy module. As I'm relatively new >to FreeBSD and Unix I'm not sure which is the best way to go. Is there >a way to change the config options before doing a make. How do I do >this so I add to the existing config options with out "overwriting >them". Can you do this with ports? > > I'm not quite sure what you are asking. If you are asking "how do I get make to remember the configuration options I used last time" then the easiest answer is to use sysutils/portupgrade and put your options into /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf (which is pretty self documenting when you edit it). Some ports now put the options you used in /var/db/ports/{portname}/options, but apache2 doesn't seem to be one of them yet. So if you didn't make a not of what you picked, you'll have to work them out all over again :-( If you are asking how to re-install apache2 without overwriting changes you made to httpd.conf, then the safest way is to make backup copies before deleting the package and reinstalling. (Easy with portugrgade -f option). Actually, I think the port is clever about this and won't remove the config file if you have changed it, but I'd make backups anyway. Personally, when installing a complex port like apache2, I always try to be generous about what modules etc I compile, and try to include stuff I *might* need even if I have no use for it yet. Only experimental stuff gets left out. Saves a lot of grief when you suddenly find a use for proxying :-) Disk space is nearly always cheaper than time. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 17:58:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5E916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E07443D5D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:58:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:58:47 +0100 Message-ID: <42B703AE.5010704@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:58:06 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Sher , ed@fxq.nl References: <000801c575bb$bcb3a0b0$6401a8c0@dell1> <20050620174925.GF61190@hoeg.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050620174925.GF61190@hoeg.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 17:58:47.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[B52B0300:01C575C1] Cc: Ed Schouten , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: After Install -- Where is FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:58:08 -0000 Ed Schouten wrote: >I do have one tip for you about your problem; if you've installed >FreeBSD on a machine with multiple harddisks (first disk Windows, second >disk FreeBSD) and your BIOS is set up to boot from the first harddisk >(HDD-0), it will just boot Windows, without even' looking at the >bootloader on the second harddisk. Search for the 'Boot device priority' >options in your PC BIOS Setup. > > AFAIK, windows won't start up if it isn't the first disk (well, it wouldn't for me, just black-screens and reboots). You need the FreeBSD boot loader on the Windows disk and just select disk2 for FreeBSD. If you ever re-install windows, it will delete the boot loader for you and you'll need to install it again. If you are installing the boot loader onto a second disk then /stand/sysinstall is just like booting from CD, without having to boot from CD, but it tends to refuse to write stuff to currently mounted disks. Instructions for that already sent to questions, and may well be in the handbook :-) --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 18:13:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619B616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@idealinter.net) Received: from mail.idealinter.net (mail.idealinter.net [72.242.8.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2141A43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@idealinter.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [72.242.8.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.idealinter.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020D710E42C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:13:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42B6E0BA.9060104@t-hosting.hu> References: <42B6E0BA.9060104@t-hosting.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6D271D6A-C5CD-450C-AD0B-96258EE4022E@idealinter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ken Ebling Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:13:30 -0400 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n=5FG=E1bor?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.x -> 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:13:32 -0000 On Jun 20, 2005, at 11:28 AM, K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor wrote: > Hello, > > it must be a well-discussed topic, but I don't know where to find a =20= > good description about upgrading from 4.x to 5.x. There is a =20 > production machine running 4.10 and the owner wants me to upgrade =20 > it to 5.4. Could somebody tell me the most important points to =20 > care? Or do You know a good howto? > > Cheers, > > G=E1bor K=F6vesd=E1n > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:42b6e0cc524098808316405! I've upgraded quite a few machines from 4.x to 5.x, all without any =20 problems. The best 'how-to' I know of is in /usr/src/UPDATING Update your sources via cvsup to RELENG_5_4 and search in /usr/src/=20 UPDATING for "To upgrade in-place from 4.x-stable to current". On one of my 5.4-p1 systems, the relevant instructions start on line =20 1868. Take care, Ken Ebling From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 18:16:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C65F16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B1C43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:16:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KIGoN7026680 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:16:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:16:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: FreeBSD Questions List Message-ID: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:16:52 -0000 My swap used to be 30MB+ I increased from 256MB to 384MB. For several days swap usage was zero. Then I saw it increase to a few hundred Kbs.. and now it's up to 10MB. I am wondering if it's because swap is not going down or there is now that many more programs running (which I doubt). Before the memory upgrade the swap was very steady at 30MB so after a 128MB memory increase I am a little surprised my swap seems to be staying around 10MB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 18:24:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9253E16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:24:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F3B43D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:24:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j5KIOUoI046545; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:24:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:24:30 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Francisco Reyes Message-ID: <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:24:31 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 20), Francisco Reyes said: > My swap used to be 30MB+ > I increased from 256MB to 384MB. > For several days swap usage was zero. Then I saw it increase to a few > hundred Kbs.. and now it's up to 10MB. > > I am wondering if it's because swap is not going down or there is now that > many more programs running (which I doubt). > > Before the memory upgrade the swap was very steady at 30MB so after a > 128MB memory increase I am a little surprised my swap seems to be > staying around 10MB When the system is low on memory, it will force the least used blocks of memory to swap. It will not free the swap space until the process owning them exits (even if it pages that memory back into RAM), so at some point the system paged out 30MB of memory, some processes exited and freed up 20MB, and you probably have some long-lived processes that account for that remaining 10MB. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 18:44:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC7A16A41F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: from smtp-out4.tiscali.nl (smtp-out4.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2CA43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: from [195.241.9.180] (helo=edsger) by smtp-out4.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Tiscali http://www.tiscali.nl) id 1DkRFv-0007pz-26; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:44:23 +0200 From: "Freek Nossin" To: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:44:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcV1mMwflO/F4VpPTNeCzHS5pqG3wQALwnbA Message-Id: <20050620184424.2F2CA43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: "'Christopher J. Umina'" Subject: RE: Battlefield 2 Server won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:44:24 -0000 Nice try, but it didn't work, unfortunately. I'm still getting the same error: /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `GLIBCPP_3.2.2' not found (required by > > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f) > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher J. Umina [mailto:uminac@easymac.org] > Sent: maandag 20 juni 2005 15:06 > To: Freek Nossin > Subject: Re: Battlefield 2 Server won't start > > sometimes things get messed up when you don't type the full path of the > startup script... > > eg: > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/script.sh start > > as opposed to > > cd /usr/local/etc/rc.d > ./script.sh start > > > ... just a stab in the dark > > On Jun 20, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Freek Nossin wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I was happy when I saw that the Battlefield 2 Linux Server was > > released. Now > > I finally had the chance to run this server (a freebsd machine > > ofcourse ;)) > > I thought. After a smooth install (the most annoying parts was > > accepting the > > agreements) I tried to run the server. > > > > I entered the following command in my BF2 directory: > > > > ./start.sh > > > > And then I got this "very nice" error message: > > > > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: > > version > > `GLIBCPP_3.2.2' not found (required by > > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f) > > > > The library the program was looking for wasn't in the location it > > expected, > > as it is a linux library. I made a symbolic link to the correct file: > > > > $ls -al /usr/lib/libstdc++.* > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1709842 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.a > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so > > -> > > libstdc++.so.4 > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 834196 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.4 > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 Jun 15 15:02 > > /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1705326 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++_p.a > > > > and > > > > $ls -al /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5* > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 18 Mar 21 21:42 > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.1 > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4181584 Sep 4 2002 > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.1 > > > > but I still get the same error message. Perhaps it has something to do > > with > > the note about GLIBCPP_3.2.2. I checked my GCC version, which is > > 3.2.1. Can > > this be the cause? Or what can else cause this kind of error? > > > > I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3 > > > > You could make my day I one of you know how to solve this! > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Dennis > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 18:45:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C339916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:45:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9835D43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:45:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DkRGn-000KWR-BJ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:45:18 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20050620134427.R12790@neptune.atopia.net> References: <20050620134427.R12790@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:45:16 -0600 To: Matt Juszczak X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:45:19 -0000 On Jun 20, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Matt Juszczak wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > >> Please post dmesg output from both systems. >> > > The systems end up crashing so I can't do a dmesg.... or do you > mean a general dmesg when they are stable? Probably just a standard one so people can see what you config is on them Chad > > > >>> Here is the output from Caliban: http://paste.atopia.net/126. >>> > > The machine crashed again today. The new error message was like > the above link, it had the same process (slapd), etc. This time; > however, it gave some different data. > > Here's the error: > > Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid=0; apc id=0 > fault virtual address = 0x24 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0644eff > stack pointer = 0x10:0xdaa1bb48 > frame pointer = 0x20:0xdaa1bb5c > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = dpc0, pres1, > def321, gran 1 > processoreflags = resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 442 (slapd) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > cpuid = 0 > boot() called on cpu #0 > uptime: 4d4h33m1s > cannot dump. No dump device defined. > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to > abort.... > rebooting.... > cpu_reset called on cpu #0 > cpu-reset: stopping other cpus > spin lock sched lock held by 0xc1fd4900 for 75 seconds > > > The machine never rebooted. Thought this error might help. This > is on the other server that keeps dieing with slapd. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 18:47:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568C916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:47:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EEF43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:47:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KIl0RX011571; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:47:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:47:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <20050620144631.F37558@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:47:08 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > When the system is low on memory, it will force the least used blocks > of memory to swap. It will not free the swap space until the process > owning them exits (even if it pages that memory back into RAM), so at > some point the system paged out 30MB of memory, some processes exited > and freed up 20MB, and you probably have some long-lived processes that > account for that remaining 10MB. Makes sense. Any way to find out which process is using the swap? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 18:55:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC7416A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:55:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C15043D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:55:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j5KItkvE033616; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:55:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:55:46 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Francisco Reyes Message-ID: <20050620185545.GF8497@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620144631.F37558@zoraida.natserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620144631.F37558@zoraida.natserv.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:55:49 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 20), Francisco Reyes said: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > > When the system is low on memory, it will force the least used > > blocks of memory to swap. It will not free the swap space until > > the process owning them exits (even if it pages that memory back > > into RAM), so at some point the system paged out 30MB of memory, > > some processes exited and freed up 20MB, and you probably have some > > long-lived processes that account for that remaining 10MB. > > Makes sense. > Any way to find out which process is using the swap? None that I know of. Another one of those "Junior Kernel Hacker" proejcts :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 19:05:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211FF16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@trit.org) Received: from charade.trit.org (charade.trit.org [65.19.139.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AD443D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@trit.org) Received: by charade.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2CB81AF46A; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:28 +0000 From: Andy Miller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050620190528.GA5481@charade.trit.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-Advocacy: Use FreeBSD. X-PGP-Key: 8982ACB9 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 70CC 757F 49BB 0ED4 925C 5BA3 EC6C BF9B 8982 ACB9 Subject: FreeBSD L2TP client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:29 -0000 I am looking for a way to use FreeBSD as a L2TP VPN client. Does anyone know of a way to do this. I found ng_l2tp, but I'm not quite sure how to use it. If anyone has a good how-to, or can give me some direction, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. -- Andy Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 19:17:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3349216A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5D643D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:17:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3AC41426E; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9E14157 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:17:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050620151530.I27084@neptune.atopia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:17:35 -0000 Attached is the dmesg as requested.... Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p1 #0: Mon May 16 21:25:42 EDT 2005 root@orion.dandy.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/orionkern Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz (3065.80-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 4160225280 (3967 MB) avail memory = 4073291776 (3884 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard ioapic3 irqs 72-95 on motherboard ioapic4 irqs 96-119 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 28.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 29.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 pci1: at device 30.0 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 31.0 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 em0: port 0x3000-0x303f mem 0xf8200000-0xf821ffff irq 28 at device 2.0 on pci3 em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2c:60:5c em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A em1: port 0x3040-0x307f mem 0xf8220000-0xf823ffff irq 29 at device 2.1 on pci3 em1: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2c:60:5d em1: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A pcib4: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pci4: at device 28.0 (no driver attached) pcib5: at device 29.0 on pci4 pci5: on pcib5 pci4: at device 30.0 (no driver attached) pcib6: at device 31.0 on pci4 pci6: on pcib6 asr0: mem 0xfc000000-0xfdffffff,0xfb000000-0xfbffffff,0xf8400000-0xf84fffff irq 72 at device 1.0 on pci6 asr0: ADAPTEC 2010S FW Rev. 3B0A, 2 channel, 256 CCBs, Protocol I2O uhci0: port 0x2000-0x201f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x2020-0x203f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x2040-0x205f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 pci7: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x2060-0x206f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port orm0: at iomem 0xe0000-0xe3fff,0xc9000-0xcefff,0xc8000-0xc8fff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = disabled acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 ses0 at asr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 ses0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device da0 at asr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 35003MB (71686144 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) da1 at asr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 140014MB (286748672 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17849C) da2 at asr0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 17357MB (35548303 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2212C) SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex Time adjustment clamped to +1 second Time adjustment clamped to +1 second pid 595 (procmail), uid 18557: exited on signal 11 pid 2384 (procmail), uid 18557: exited on signal 11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 19:48:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B87816A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail.hostmansion.com (mail.hostmansion.com [69.42.139.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8776543D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [216.158.144.61] (mail.hostmansion.com [69.42.139.9]) by mail.hostmansion.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8FE11C028 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42B71D8F.2080406@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:48:31 +0300 From: Peter User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Link to PPP NAT tutorial ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:48:33 -0000 Hello , can you please point me to some tutorial regarding NAT and PPP. I have successfully set up PPPoE connection on 1 of the interface, I am able to make ssh and ping the server from the other interface but I am still not able to make to make the system forward the packages. gateway_enable="YES ppp_nat="YES" natd_enable="YES"( I tried with NO too) natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-dynamic" I saw a few tutorials and I think I get confused :-) Can you please point me some that works with PPPoE and NATS ? Thanks a lot :-) -- Best regards, Peter http://AboutSupport.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 19:49:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA46916A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:49:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from k_greenwood1@yahoo.com) Received: from web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3ECC843D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:49:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from k_greenwood1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26962 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jun 2005 19:49:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wCjMnT+kCR0lCtmDc+51vAXQynUU4CNQt0JQZDS9tcPwR7x0nNdK4CxXJGQipInChKLSzJoKwRaZAPbkh0jc+183fReJiV5vNsSmSDSAA/tCvfxKBA19RmximqpvUsmoFfZ3ninjrnpJ93PMFOn6lK46Lj1wYvD7WTNfPTOfJ8A= ; Message-ID: <20050620194953.26960.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.109.29.231] by web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:53 PDT Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Greenwood" To: Dan Nelson , Francisco Reyes In-Reply-To: <20050620185545.GF8497@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:49:55 -0000 --- Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jun 20), Francisco Reyes said: > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > > Makes sense. > > Any way to find out which process is using the > swap? > > None that I know of. Another one of those "Junior > Kernel Hacker" > proejcts :) Perhaps /sysutils/lsof? Desc. as follows. +++ Lsof (LiSt Open Files) lists information about files that are open by the running processes. An open file may be a regular file, a directory, a block special file, a character special file, an executing text reference, a library, a stream or a network file (Internet socket, NFS file or Unix domain socket). See also fstat(1) in the base system. WWW: http://people.freebsd.org/~abe/ +++ I have only recently installed it, not a clue as to how to use it, however. BTW, if Mr. Nelson is considered "Junior Kernel Hacker", I qualify as "Senior Keyboard Drooler". AKA, take my advice with a grain of salt. __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 19:59:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DA016A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:59:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eugene.hercun@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2271F43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:59:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eugene.hercun@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so2844nzk for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:59:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HC22HaeoiGHpW9vZfpfj0GTZs76Hv0qH79/xYVlDL2AKKCLsradB3w8upROnCOyIhl8laqM0DOCBwZH10UiAb9e/ntNJvz+PEQMDb6N9iRQCixZQLp15cMEyja8jt8X302fIUKxRdXguFqqtnYyE3OTFJNqICZPRNTepK8C0pw0= Received: by 10.36.88.15 with SMTP id l15mr107645nzb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.15 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:59:44 -0700 From: Eugene Hercun To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050620184424.2F2CA43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050620184424.2F2CA43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Battlefield 2 Server won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eugene Hercun List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:59:45 -0000 Did you install the linux binaries? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 20:09:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1C316A41C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:09:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: from philemon.async.caltech.edu (philemon.async.caltech.edu [131.215.39.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CFA43D53; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:09:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: from philemon.async.caltech.edu (localhost.caltech.edu [127.0.0.1]) by philemon.async.caltech.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5KHuRNo024410; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:56:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: (from jd@localhost) by philemon.async.caltech.edu (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5KHuRUX024409; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:56:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jd) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:56:27 -0700 From: pallen@donut.ugcs.caltech.edu To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20050620175627.GE708@philemon.async.caltech.edu> References: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> <42B6CEEB.8050103@ibsd.us> <155F86DD-657A-44FF-8C5B-F9155F53A05C@shire.net> <8E8A43A3-BC28-461E-8BFB-0C046485E8D8@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8E8A43A3-BC28-461E-8BFB-0C046485E8D8@lafn.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, marcel@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mac osx disklabels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:09:54 -0000 Yeah, this sounds like a way to a solution. Of course, the drive isn't mine :-/ so I'm sort of powerless on this point. The consensus seems to be though that FreeBSD doesn't support reading those mac disklabels (partitions)... I wonder, can FreeBSD read GPT organized disks (ia64) under i386? -Paul >From Doug Hardie , Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:14:44AM -0700: > > On Jun 20, 2005, at 07:59, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > > > >On Jun 20, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Bob Bomar wrote: > > > > > >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>Hash: SHA1 > >> > >>pallen@donut.caltech.edu wrote: > >>| I went to mount a UFS filesystem on an OSX prepared drive and > >>discovered > >>| that apparantly FreeBSD can't read mac disklabels? Is this true > >>or am I > >>| missing something? > >>| > >> > >>OS X Uses HFS+ which FreeBSD can not read. Its an Apple format. > >>There were some tools in ports to read HFS fs's, but not HFS+. > >> > > > >OS X also supports a form of UFS btw > > If the drive was formatted using Disk Utility there is a very hidden > option for "Apple Partitioning Scheme" or "PC Partitioning Scheme". > The Apple Partitioning Scheme is the default. The only documentation > I could find on those options is a note that if you want to be able > to mount the drive on a PC you must use the PC Partitioning Scheme. > I suspect that the Apple Partitioning Scheme uses a different format > for the partition map which may not be handled by anything else. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 20:09:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1206A16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:09:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: from philemon.async.caltech.edu (philemon.async.caltech.edu [131.215.39.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAA843D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:09:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: from philemon.async.caltech.edu (localhost.caltech.edu [127.0.0.1]) by philemon.async.caltech.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5KHnbQK024369; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: (from jd@localhost) by philemon.async.caltech.edu (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5KHnaFT024368; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jd) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:49:36 -0700 From: pallen@donut.ugcs.caltech.edu To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Message-ID: <20050620174936.GD708@philemon.async.caltech.edu> References: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> <42B6CEEB.8050103@ibsd.us> <155F86DD-657A-44FF-8C5B-F9155F53A05C@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <155F86DD-657A-44FF-8C5B-F9155F53A05C@shire.net> Cc: Bob Bomar , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mac osx disklabels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:09:55 -0000 Yes, and in OSX this drive has been formatted with their idea of a UFS filesystem. The trouble I encounter appears to be because 1) there is no dos partition information (no slices) 2) freebsd cannot read the mac disklabel format (no partitions) I just want to confirm that I'm not running into any stupidity with regards to the partition information. Thanks for confirming that bit about HFS, but I was already pretty certain on that account... -Paul >From "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:59:46AM -0600: > > On Jun 20, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Bob Bomar wrote: > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >pallen@donut.caltech.edu wrote: > >| I went to mount a UFS filesystem on an OSX prepared drive and > >discovered > >| that apparantly FreeBSD can't read mac disklabels? Is this true > >or am I > >| missing something? > >| > > > >OS X Uses HFS+ which FreeBSD can not read. Its an Apple format. > >There were some tools in ports to read HFS fs's, but not HFS+. > > OS X also supports a form of UFS btw > > Chad > > > > > >- -- > >Bob Bomar > >bob@bomar.us > >http://www.bomar.us/~bob > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > >Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > >iD8DBQFCts7o9Jm/aTrtdKoRArBJAJ9R9Pj3JcM9Ex7bgJSt9/YcwDy8dwCgkqY/ > >A8yXjtJEUXqMtLKTV0kVwHg= > >=kZsL > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > >unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad@shire.net > -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 20:32:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0E516A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:32:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org) Received: from thingysrealm.myftp.org (81-86-86-238.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.86.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 655C643D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org) Received: (qmail 6451 invoked by uid 1011); 20 Jun 2005 20:31:57 -0000 Received: from 10.0.0.2 by rackmount.orbsrealm.com (envelope-from , uid 1010) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/781. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(10.0.0.2):. Processed in 0.336888 secs); 20 Jun 2005 20:31:57 -0000 X-Antivirus-Thingysrealm.myftp.org-Mail-From: freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org via rackmount.orbsrealm.com X-Antivirus-Thingysrealm.myftp.org: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(10.0.0.2):. Processed in 0.336888 secs Process 6445) Received: from unknown (HELO anubis) (freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org@10.0.0.2) by thingysrealm.myftp.org with SMTP; 20 Jun 2005 20:31:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:31:51 +0100 From: Grant To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050620213151.169df7bf.freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__20_Jun_2005_21_31_51_+0100_rlFzG6fQRIzV_fT_" Subject: Sound Jitter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:32:00 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__20_Jun_2005_21_31_51_+0100_rlFzG6fQRIzV_fT_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I've resently installed freebsd 5.4 on to my HP omnibook 4150, i've got the sound working and everything else setup perfect. Or so i thought, the sound is fine unless i want to do something, if i'm just scrolling in firefox it causes the sound to kinda of jump or skip, i've tried different apps to play the music and it seems to do the same on every app. (xmms, beep-media-player, mp3blaster and mpg123) the only one that didnt skip as much was mpg123. The skips only seem to happen when there is some type of activity on the computer, disk, network or screen. I dont know if i have missed configuring something or i just need to apply some type of patch... The spec of the laptop is: P2 300Mhz, 320Mb SODIMM, 6Gb Hard Drive, Sound and graphics is a neomagic 256AV, but using the cs4231 driver, as the neomagic driver locks up the laptop in freebsd and linux. Thanks for any advise in advance :) >From Grant. --Signature=_Mon__20_Jun_2005_21_31_51_+0100_rlFzG6fQRIzV_fT_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCtye7qiChNrPWHqERAl60AJoCM+3Nm6xSABQ6uwceUpge9TYdjACfXoI/ xeq/d0LCAlXFJuaijz9c/1Q= =CLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__20_Jun_2005_21_31_51_+0100_rlFzG6fQRIzV_fT_-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 20:34:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68CB16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:34:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6287743D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:34:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050620203411.MWK14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:34:11 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Peter" , Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:34:06 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B71D8F.2080406@aboutsupport.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Link to PPP NAT tutorial ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:34:12 -0000 you are mixing up ppp nat and ipfw nat. these belong to ipfw nat natd_enable="YES"( I tried with NO too) natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-dynamic" you do nat in ppp or in the furewall but not both places. you need to post the desrciption of your over all network layout -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 3:49 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Link to PPP NAT tutorial ? Hello , can you please point me to some tutorial regarding NAT and PPP. I have successfully set up PPPoE connection on 1 of the interface, I am able to make ssh and ping the server from the other interface but I am still not able to make to make the system forward the packages. gateway_enable="YES ppp_nat="YES" natd_enable="YES"( I tried with NO too) natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-dynamic" I saw a few tutorials and I think I get confused :-) Can you please point me some that works with PPPoE and NATS ? Thanks a lot :-) -- Best regards, Peter http://AboutSupport.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 20:40:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454DF16A41C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karelj@kayjay.nl) Received: from kayjay.xs4all.nl (kayjay.xs4all.nl [80.126.33.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDF443D48; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:40:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karelj@kayjay.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ibook.kayjay.xs4all.nl [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by kayjay.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5KKeFsg058039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:40:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karelj@kayjay.nl) Message-ID: <42B729AE.3010908@kayjay.nl> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:40:14 +0200 From: Karel Bosschaart User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050620134841.30FF54BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050620134841.30FF54BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Erich Dollansky , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:40:32 -0000 Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >>I know some people who were to afraid to move to FreeBSD as they >>believed installing from source is equal to being a programmer. > > Yeah I know a lot of people like that :) For those people, the pcbsd project www.pcbsd.org might be an option. I didn't try it myself (yet), but from their website it looks like a promising approach. Karel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 20:58:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487BF16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:58:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from ss.eunet.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE0243D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:58:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from localhost.i.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by ss.eunet.cz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5KKwI3F099873; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:58:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) From: Michal Mertl To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20050620163227.GA68751@thought.org> References: <20050620163227.GA68751@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:58:17 +0200 Message-Id: <1119301097.1210.3.camel@genius1.i.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: any ipf wizards out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:58:22 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Folks, > > A couple weeks ago I realized that my ipf ruleset was messing > up my web access ... ad had been for months I just tried an > older, simpler ipf.rules. Same results. Can anybody out there > in FreeBSD-land clue me in please? Without any concrete information it's hard to guess. The only thing I can think of is that you don't allow outgoing ICMP packet-too-big. This will make it for users with small MTU (e.g. some dial-up, PPPoE (ADSL) impossible to receive bigger pages (longer then their MTU minus something). > gary > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 21:02:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2758516A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BF843D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D310E123999; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596C212B13D; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93666-04; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B2F12B0EB; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B72E61.8050204@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:17 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brianjohn@fusemail.com References: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> In-Reply-To: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that will dump a web page to std out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:02:01 -0000 Yet some other solutions: with bash: ( printf 'GET / HTTP/1.0\n\n' >&3 & cat 0<&3 ) 3<> /dev/tcp/www.freebsd.org/80 with netcat: printf 'GET / HTTP/1.0' | nc www.freebsd.org 80 Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 21:10:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9C516A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AE943D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5KLARm7057451; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:10:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 526FB63A2; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:10:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:10:27 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Grant Message-ID: <20050620211027.GA32106@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Grant , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050620213151.169df7bf.freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620213151.169df7bf.freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Jitter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:10:30 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:31:51PM +0100, Grant wrote: >=20 > Or so i thought, the sound is fine unless i want to do something, if i'm > just scrolling in firefox it causes the sound to kinda of jump or skip, =20 > The skips only seem to happen when there is some type of activity on the > computer, disk, network or screen. I dont know if i have missed > configuring something or i just need to apply some type of patch... Try enlarging the soundcards DMA buffer; Add the following line to /boot/device.hints and reboot: hint.pcm.0.buffersize=3D"16384" HTH, Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCtzDDEnfvsMMhpyURAgelAJ48uVuDLrKKqvUWk+NMAPYU9FW3nwCfZHIj Yqv5uhWWMvbW4qpAGZ+kFqA= =zEDv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 21:44:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C3416A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:44:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6744943D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:44:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so863087rne for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:44:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Vqxl10FpD46GoulL6+JMrXRb5Ee9yC5ze1LVZYTkqEAJgCEBZqPCGNJ6IWasur8+YY5JpvnweD6WbFYltJ71FgXWUjIMywrEGnATril0apMjRY5/O9yn2yX8TCegSqRInBLZOF2y0EpkU2bNibzikvtI5q/rX4yQm/FPPt71ZYs= Received: by 10.38.78.56 with SMTP id a56mr458228rnb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.208.36 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:44:48 -0700 From: Derrick Ryalls To: Freek Nossin In-Reply-To: <20050620125831.06C168011011@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050620125831.06C168011011@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Battlefield 2 Server won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Derrick Ryalls List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:44:49 -0000 On 6/20/05, Freek Nossin wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I was happy when I saw that the Battlefield 2 Linux Server was released. = Now > I finally had the chance to run this server (a freebsd machine ofcourse ;= )) > I thought. After a smooth install (the most annoying parts was accepting = the > agreements) I tried to run the server. >=20 > I entered the following command in my BF2 directory: >=20 > ./start.sh >=20 > And then I got this "very nice" error message: >=20 > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: versio= n > `GLIBCPP_3.2.2' not found (required by > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f) >=20 > The library the program was looking for wasn't in the location it expecte= d, > as it is a linux library. I made a symbolic link to the correct file: >=20 > $ls -al /usr/lib/libstdc++.* > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1709842 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.a > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so -> > libstdc++.so.4 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 834196 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.4 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 Jun 15 15:02 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -= > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1705326 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++_p.a >=20 > and >=20 > $ls -al /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 18 Mar 21 21:42 > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.1 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4181584 Sep 4 2002 > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.1 >=20 > but I still get the same error message. Perhaps it has something to do wi= th > the note about GLIBCPP_3.2.2. I checked my GCC version, which is 3.2.1. C= an > this be the cause? Or what can else cause this kind of error? >=20 > I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3 >=20 > You could make my day I one of you know how to solve this! >=20 I don't have a solution for this, but here is what someone send me, and they claim it worked: installed linux_base-8-8 installed the server distro copied the libsc++.so.5 and so.1 to the game servers /ia_32 folder I haven't yet been able to try this out, so no promises and sounds like what you already did. If you do figure this out before the rest of us, please update the archives (send a mail telling what to do). Good luck to us all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 21:52:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2160F16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:52:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8630743D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:52:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:53:03 +0100 Message-ID: <42B73A93.5060301@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:52:19 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Sher References: <000801c575bb$bcb3a0b0$6401a8c0@dell1> <42B6FD0D.9070001@centtech.com> <42B6FFBF.9000605@dial.pipex.com> <000801c575cc$43f86e60$6401a8c0@dell1> In-Reply-To: <000801c575cc$43f86e60$6401a8c0@dell1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 21:53:03.0553 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F042B10:01C575E2] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: After Install -- Where is FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:52:25 -0000 Benjamin Sher wrote: >Dear Alex: > >Thanks so much for your help. > >I did try it, went into Post Installation Config, Label, etc. But at the top >there was no information whatsoever about any disks. Zilch. No slice, no >partition. Nothing. > >Any idea what's going on? > > I'm sorry, I meant to type "slice" editor not "label" editor. I was thinking slice, but my fingers disagreed :-( When you enter the slice editor it should allow you to pick a disk. I'm not sure, in the end. whether you had one disk (with Windows and BSD) or two disks (one with windows, one with BSD). In any case, I think you have to write the Boot Manager to both. Pick the first disk and it should give you a screen displaying the slices (DOS-style partitions). In fact you need to do nothing more than type "W" here and it will ask you if you want to install the Boot Manager. Select the First option (BSD boot manager) and press return. If you have two disks, then press Escape, deselect the current disk by pressing space, move down to the second disk, hit enter and repeat the procedure. I just confirmed the procedure on my own Windows/FreeBSD disk and it worked just fine. So assuming the rest of your installation did go OK, this should do it. Good luck, and let us know when (not if!) it works for you. --Alex PS I have copied freebsd-questions on the reply. You're better off directing followups there, even when replying to the person who's helping you. They may not have the answer that you need, or might even be in another time zone (as I suspect I am). It might also be that someone else has a better answer! Also, it means that any answers you get are recorded for posterity in the archives, where hopefully they can be found by someone else having similar problems. PPS At some point, someone may chide you for top-posting -- that is, putting your followup question at the top of your email rather than at the bottom. The reason is that it is easier to follow the thread of a discussion if you can read through it chronologically from top to bottom. It takes a little more mouse-wheel scrolling sometimes to see the new material, but is generally easier than reading the end of the message and then having to scroll back to the beginning. >Thanks again. > >Benjamin >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alex Zbyslaw" >To: "Benjamin Sher" >Cc: "FreeBSD-Questions Questions" >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:41 PM >Subject: Re: After Install -- Where is FreeBSD? > > > > >>Benjamin Sher wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Dear friends: >>>>All that's missing now is FreeBSD. After completing my install, I >>>>exited. FreeBSD exited normally, then rebooted. But no sign of >>>>FreeBSD. Instead, Windows came up. I do recall choosing to have a >>>>boot manager but never actually saw the screen and boot-up options. >>>>So, I went back into Free BSD by switching back to the CD in my Bios, >>>>but that's as far as I dare go on my own. What should I do? Am I >>>>missing something? >>>> >>>> >>I don't know why the boot manager isn't installed, but it's very easy to >>install it again. Boot from the CD, select Post Installation Config, >>then select the disk Label editor. Pick the first slice and make it >>bootable (S) then W to write you changes and you are asked if you want >>to install the boot manager. Say yes. >> >>Quit out and reboot, taking out the CD. While I'm getting things to >>work I usually leave the floppy and CD as BIOS boot options before the >>hard disk. Once I know it all works, I fix the BIOS to look for the >>disk first. If you don't have a bootable CD or floppy in the drive, >>then the system boots from disk. >> >>This is from memory, but I'm pretty sure it's correct. As long as you >>do nothing other than making a slice bootable, then you should do no >>damage. >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 22:03:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1E716A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:03:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mxsf02.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf02.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF6043D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:03:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.146]) by mxsf02.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KM3g2A026857 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:03:42 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.254.3]) (24.176.115.34) by mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2005 18:03:42 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.93,216,1115006400"; d="scan'208"; a="1207712993:sNHT29958956" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20050620040117.084eb0f0@cobalt.antimatter.net> References: <6.1.0.6.2.20050620040117.084eb0f0@cobalt.antimatter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Howse Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:03:41 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: Re: qpopper error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:03:44 -0000 On Jun 20, 2005, at 6:05 AM, Glenn Dawson wrote: > At 05:52 PM 6/19/2005, Charles Howse wrote: > >> Hi, >> In my research before posting this question, I saw this same question >> in numerous places, but I never saw a resolution! >> >> I have qpopper 4.0.5 running from inetd on FBSD 4.11. >> I start it thus: /usr/local/libexec/qpopper >> When I connect from my Mac to check my mail, I see the following >> in / var/log/messages: >> >> Jun 19 19:45:18 moe qpopper[199]: charles at 192.168.254.3 >> (192.168.254.3): -ERR >> [SYS/TMP] POP authentication DB not abailable (user charles): No such >> file or directory (2) >> >> Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? >> > > Did you build qpopper from ports? or ? > What options did you enable or disable/ (assuming you built from > ports) > Glenn, Thank for the reply. I installed qpopper from /stand/sysinstall/ Configure/Packages. It didn't prompt me for any decisions, so I suppose you could say it's installed with the defaults. Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 22:08:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608BC16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:08:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2210043D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:08:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.135]) by mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KM88EC017704 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:08:08 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.254.3]) (24.176.115.34) by mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2005 18:08:08 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.93,216,1115006400"; d="scan'208"; a="1064693329:sNHT14854180" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Howse Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:08:07 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: Re: qpopper error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:08:10 -0000 I plan to use qpopper to retrieve root's mail (which I have aliased to 'charles'). I will use my home lan to connect to the FBSD box from my Mac, and read the mail. "Charles" is indeed a valid user on the FBSD box. I ssh to that box as charles, and am logged in as charles right now. On Jun 20, 2005, at 9:28 AM, fbsd_user wrote: > First of all I have qpopper running on 4.10 and 5.4 with out any > problems. I installed the package version. > > Second that error message is saying that user charles is not a valid > user on the ISP where you are telling qpopper to fetch the mail > from. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charles > Howse > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:53 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: qpopper error > > > Hi, > In my research before posting this question, I saw this same > question > in numerous places, but I never saw a resolution! > > I have qpopper 4.0.5 running from inetd on FBSD 4.11. > I start it thus: /usr/local/libexec/qpopper > When I connect from my Mac to check my mail, I see the following in > / > var/log/messages: > > Jun 19 19:45:18 moe qpopper[199]: charles at 192.168.254.3 > (192.168.254.3): -ERR > [SYS/TMP] POP authentication DB not abailable (user charles): No > such > file or directory (2) > > Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? > > Thanks, > Charles > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 22:21:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9A516A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org) Received: from thingysrealm.myftp.org (81-86-86-238.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.86.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB67543D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:21:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org) Received: (qmail 7502 invoked by uid 1011); 20 Jun 2005 22:21:16 -0000 Received: from 10.0.0.2 by rackmount.orbsrealm.com (envelope-from , uid 1010) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/781. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(10.0.0.2):. Processed in 0.458292 secs); 20 Jun 2005 22:21:16 -0000 X-Antivirus-Thingysrealm.myftp.org-Mail-From: freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org via rackmount.orbsrealm.com X-Antivirus-Thingysrealm.myftp.org: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(10.0.0.2):. Processed in 0.458292 secs Process 7496) Received: from unknown (HELO anubis) (freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org@10.0.0.2) by thingysrealm.myftp.org with SMTP; 20 Jun 2005 22:21:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:21:15 +0100 From: Grant To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050620232115.5a7a5fd0.freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org> In-Reply-To: <20050620211027.GA32106@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20050620213151.169df7bf.freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org> <20050620211027.GA32106@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__20_Jun_2005_23_21_15_+0100_+uJUpACTWCxUjkTj" Subject: Re: Sound Jitter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:21:19 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__20_Jun_2005_23_21_15_+0100_+uJUpACTWCxUjkTj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:10:27 +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:31:51PM +0100, Grant wrote: > >=20 > > Or so i thought, the sound is fine unless i want to do something, if > > i'm just scrolling in firefox it causes the sound to kinda of jump > > or skip, > =20 > > The skips only seem to happen when there is some type of activity on > > the computer, disk, network or screen. I dont know if i have missed > > configuring something or i just need to apply some type of patch... >=20 > Try enlarging the soundcards DMA buffer; Add the following line to > /boot/device.hints and reboot: >=20 > hint.pcm.0.buffersize=3D"16384" Hey, I found the above line on google when i had a looke, i shoved it in but with another number 65536 i dont know if that made a difference, but i tried the exact line above with that number. The Jitter is still there, but instead of happening when firefox is scrolling its only when firefox is just about to finish loading something, which i suppose would cause a CPU spike or something ? also during playback firefox runs very very slow :/ i dontk now if this is related at all, but with the cpu and the ram it shouldnt run that bad, the window manager is fluxbox so thats keeping things to a minimum. Previously i dont remember having any performance issues on this laptop when using linux and freebsd, maybe i've configured the sound card wrong which is causing all these problems. I was also wondering if i should try 4.x instead of 5.4 i dont know all the details about their difference and that, but it might be worth a try ? Thanks again. >From Grant. --Signature=_Mon__20_Jun_2005_23_21_15_+0100_+uJUpACTWCxUjkTj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCt0FbqiChNrPWHqERAsUbAJ9dYUixHzK2yIZgSJAVVxQGSDdLYgCbB1u6 XfRGMVo2EVCkC+Gx/niumL8= =tmhn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__20_Jun_2005_23_21_15_+0100_+uJUpACTWCxUjkTj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 22:22:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C436E16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:22:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B8E43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:22:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050620222204.HFOT14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:22:04 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Charles Howse" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:22:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: qpopper error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:22:05 -0000 All users defined on the gateway sendmail server system have to belong to the "mail" group, so the qpopper pop3 server can access the user's sendmail mailbox. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charles Howse Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:08 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: qpopper error I plan to use qpopper to retrieve root's mail (which I have aliased to 'charles'). I will use my home lan to connect to the FBSD box from my Mac, and read the mail. "Charles" is indeed a valid user on the FBSD box. I ssh to that box as charles, and am logged in as charles right now. On Jun 20, 2005, at 9:28 AM, fbsd_user wrote: > First of all I have qpopper running on 4.10 and 5.4 with out any > problems. I installed the package version. > > Second that error message is saying that user charles is not a valid > user on the ISP where you are telling qpopper to fetch the mail > from. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charles > Howse > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:53 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: qpopper error > > > Hi, > In my research before posting this question, I saw this same > question > in numerous places, but I never saw a resolution! > > I have qpopper 4.0.5 running from inetd on FBSD 4.11. > I start it thus: /usr/local/libexec/qpopper > When I connect from my Mac to check my mail, I see the following in > / > var/log/messages: > > Jun 19 19:45:18 moe qpopper[199]: charles at 192.168.254.3 > (192.168.254.3): -ERR > [SYS/TMP] POP authentication DB not abailable (user charles): No > such > file or directory (2) > > Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? > > Thanks, > Charles > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks, Charles _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 22:23:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CC816A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF6943D49 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5KMNUum044011 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:23:30 -0800 Message-Id: <20050620222330.M70970@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 69.3.148.220 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: apache Logging output changed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:23:32 -0000 I know this off topic but the apache users mail list is slow in response to this question. Anybody here can help me please? apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 FreeBSD-4.11R3 so I build apache 1.3.33 some about a month ago and around that time I stopped seeing POST log messages for my perl scripts ending up in my server's access logs. any clues why this is no longer being logged. is there some log granualrity configuration that is no longer default? clues please? cheers, Noha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 22:25:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF2A16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B53843D48 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:24:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5KMOwd7092417; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:24:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <42B741AE.80806@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:22:38 -0500 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Howse References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: qpopper error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:25:00 -0000 Charles Howse wrote: > Hi, > In my research before posting this question, I saw this same question > in numerous places, but I never saw a resolution! > > I have qpopper 4.0.5 running from inetd on FBSD 4.11. > I start it thus: /usr/local/libexec/qpopper > When I connect from my Mac to check my mail, I see the following in / > var/log/messages: > > Jun 19 19:45:18 moe qpopper[199]: charles at 192.168.254.3 > (192.168.254.3): -ERR > [SYS/TMP] POP authentication DB not abailable (user charles): No such > file or directory (2) > > Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? I could be mistaken, but it looks like maybe it's looking for a separate POP user authentication database separate from /etc/passwd. I know that we do this to support APOP logins. Do you have /usr/local/etc/qpopper/pop.auth.db ? You may need to initialize it and then add your username to it. man qpopauth -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 22:33:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C292616A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:33:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mxsf24.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf24.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8458E43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:33:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.133]) by mxsf24.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KMXfmU012238 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:33:42 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.254.3]) (24.176.115.34) by mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2005 18:33:42 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.93,216,1115006400"; d="scan'208"; a="1033160256:sNHT523314820" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <42B741AE.80806@scls.lib.wi.us> References: <42B741AE.80806@scls.lib.wi.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Howse Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:33:41 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: Re: qpopper error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:33:44 -0000 On Jun 20, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Greg Barniskis wrote: > Charles Howse wrote: > >> Hi, >> In my research before posting this question, I saw this same >> question in numerous places, but I never saw a resolution! >> I have qpopper 4.0.5 running from inetd on FBSD 4.11. >> I start it thus: /usr/local/libexec/qpopper >> When I connect from my Mac to check my mail, I see the following >> in / var/log/messages: >> Jun 19 19:45:18 moe qpopper[199]: charles at 192.168.254.3 >> (192.168.254.3): -ERR >> [SYS/TMP] POP authentication DB not abailable (user charles): No >> such file or directory (2) >> Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? >> > > I could be mistaken, but it looks like maybe it's looking for a > separate POP user authentication database separate from /etc/ > passwd. I know that we do this to support APOP logins. > > Do you have /usr/local/etc/qpopper/pop.auth.db ? > > You may need to initialize it and then add your username to it. > > man qpopauth > That took care of it! Thanks, Glenn! Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 23:04:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0E016A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:04:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7A3F43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:04:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2005 23:04:26 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 21 Jun 2005 01:04:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:04:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050620190528.GA5481@charade.trit.org> In-Reply-To: <20050620190528.GA5481@charade.trit.org> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3166865.LjziTEM9R3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506210104.20996@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Andy Miller Subject: Re: FreeBSD L2TP client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:04:28 -0000 --nextPart3166865.LjziTEM9R3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Montag, 20. Juni 2005 21:05 schrieb Andy Miller: > I am looking for a way to use FreeBSD as a L2TP VPN client. Does anyone > know of a way to do this. I found ng_l2tp, but I'm not quite sure how > to use it. If anyone has a good how-to, or can give me some direction, Check mpd from the ports, if I remember correctly it can control L2TP=20 sessions. =2DHarry > I'd appreciate it. Thank you. > > -- > Andy Miller > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart3166865.LjziTEM9R3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCt0t0Bylq0S4AzzwRAmOXAJ4hshHzTFNNM7QS2EkwQu5XjU/aVgCZAQ50 vL0veHR0MtWUudGVKClBWeA= =tfkj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3166865.LjziTEM9R3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 23:05:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BC116A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:05:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C7F43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:05:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c511d8.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.17.216]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5KN3jmA009138; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5KN4pJZ000836; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:04:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5KN4cPX000832; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:04:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200506202304.j5KN4cPX000832@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: xfb52@dial.pipex.com (Alex Zbyslaw) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:04:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42B5506A.8020608@dial.pipex.com> from "Alex Zbyslaw" at Jun 19, 2005 12:00:58 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tuc at T-B-O-H , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:05:03 -0000 > > On 6/17/05, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: > > >>Hi, > >> > >> Ever since I upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15, I've started to run into > >>problems... All of a sudden, anything I do results in a Segfault. Sometimes > >>I'll get : > >> > >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol table > >> > >> > Are you sure you rebuilt and re-installed both your kernel and your > world? If they are out of sync, that can cause unusual problems. > Yes. I have a 2 part process I run : STEP 1: cvsup -g -L 2 ./stable-supfile &&(cd /usr/src;make buildworld) && (cd /usr/src;make buildkernel KERNCONF=HIMINBJORG53) echo "Press ENTER to install kernel" read c (cd /usr/src;make installkernel KERNCONF=HIMINBJORG53) echo "Need to reboot" STEP 2: echo "Press ENTER to mergemaster" read a mergemaster -p echo "Press ENTER to installworld" read b (cd /usr/src;make installworld) echo "Press ENTER to mergemaster" read c mergemaster echo "REBOOT" I guess I could re-run it and see if it continues. > If you have upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15 why not just upgrade to > 5.4-RELEASE-p*? > I'm always nervous going up a release due to my NVIDIA card.... Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 23:05:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010B216A41F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C14C43D55 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KN5Kt0009759; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: "K. Greenwood" In-Reply-To: <20050620194953.26960.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050620190403.W39911@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <20050620194953.26960.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions List , Dan Nelson Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:05:23 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, K. Greenwood wrote: > Perhaps /sysutils/lsof? Desc. as follows. Checked both lsof and fstat. Neither lists programs that are using the swap. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 23:07:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352EE16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:07:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B1B43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:07:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c511d8.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.17.216]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5KN6imA009232; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5KN7q18000907; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:07:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5KN7mnB000906; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:07:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200506202307.j5KN7mnB000906@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:07:48 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Dmitry Mityugov" at Jun 19, 2005 11:27:10 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tuc at T-B-O-H , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:07:59 -0000 > > On 6/17/05, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Ever since I upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15, I've started to run into > > problems... All of a sudden, anything I do results in a Segfault. Sometimes > > I'll get : > > > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol table > > Is there a more or less reliable way to reproduce this? What should I > run to try to reproduce this? > Thats the thing. I can't force it to happen. It just "does". Infact, when looking at my logs, it happened at 1am this morning and I didn't even realize it (And wasn't anywhere near the machine). I can't do any debugging once it starts since EVERYTHING cores that I try to run..... This isn't a production server so I'm not dying for a solution, but it would be nice to not have this problem. Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 23:37:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91ADC16A41C; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1159B43D53; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from [192.168.4.250] (dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.250]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5KNaw2k003040; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) In-Reply-To: <20050620175627.GE708@philemon.async.caltech.edu> References: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> <42B6CEEB.8050103@ibsd.us> <155F86DD-657A-44FF-8C5B-F9155F53A05C@shire.net> <8E8A43A3-BC28-461E-8BFB-0C046485E8D8@lafn.org> <20050620175627.GE708@philemon.async.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <21a9194049e534267829025b6b2d524f@xcllnt.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marcel Moolenaar Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:36:56 -0700 To: pallen@donut.ugcs.caltech.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, marcel@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mac osx disklabels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:37:05 -0000 On Jun 20, 2005, at 10:56 AM, pallen@donut.ugcs.caltech.edu wrote: > I wonder, can FreeBSD read GPT organized disks (ia64) under > i386? Yes, but you typically cannot boot from a GPT disk. This applies to all platforms FreeBSD supports (with the obvious exception of ia64 of course, where GPT is the native partitioning scheme). -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 23:46:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0162D16A41C for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:46:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9371D43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:46:44 +0100 Message-ID: <42B7553A.9070402@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:46:02 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc at T-B-O-H References: <200506202304.j5KN4cPX000832@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200506202304.j5KN4cPX000832@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2005 23:46:44.0340 (UTC) FILETIME=[5085AB40:01C575F2] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:46:05 -0000 Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: >>On 6/17/05, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: >> >>>> Ever since I upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15, I've started to run into >>>>problems... All of a sudden, anything I do results in a Segfault. Sometimes >>>>I'll get : >>>> >>>> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol table >>>> >>>> >>Are you sure you rebuilt and re-installed both your kernel and your >>world? If they are out of sync, that can cause unusual problems. >> >> >> > Yes. I have a 2 part process I run : >[process elided] > I guess I could re-run it and see if it continues. > > > If the problem is intermittent then I would suspect the hardware (I know, everyone always says that, but I really have used a brand new server which segfaulted randomly and it really was a memory problem). Try building a memtest86 CD from the ports (from a different machine perhaps) and running it for at least several hours, though it might not take that long. Your BIOS might also support extended memory tests (try disabling quick POST) though they are supposed to be less effective than memtest86. >>If you have upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15 why not just upgrade to >>5.4-RELEASE-p*? >> >> >> > I'm always nervous going up a release due to my NVIDIA card.... > > I've never used any fancy features of my NVidia under FreeBSD (never need them!) and the stock Xorg Nvidia driver works just fine on my aging GeForce2, so I can't really comment on that. But there have been many comments on this list that 5.4 is a real improvement over 5.3 (went straight from 4.11 myself). However, if this *is* a hardware problem then I would worry about that first. The upgrade to 5.3-p15 (presumably from 5.3-p-something else) could be pure coincidence. I mean, you have to be doing *something* before getting a hardware fault! --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:00:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C15216A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:00:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from artwork@cartoon-factory.com) Received: from ceres.aros.net (ceres.aros.net [66.219.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4C343D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:00:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from artwork@cartoon-factory.com) Received: from cartoon (42dbd86d.dsl.aros.net [66.219.216.109]) by ceres.aros.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5L00VMx068271 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:00:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from artwork@cartoon-factory.com) Message-Id: <200506210000.j5L00VMx068271@ceres.aros.net> From: "Cartoon Factory" To: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:00:34 -0600 Organization: The Cartoon Factory Animation Art Gallery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcV19DybXB1n7TVATw+3AebHtpR+LQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on ceres.aros.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Upgrading 5.3 to 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: artwork@cartoon-factory.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:00:34 -0000 Hi: I am a fairly novice user of FreeBSD. I just recently built two boxes with 5.3, and now that 5.4 is out, I was curious how easy it would be to upgrade. The "Migration" guide deals with 4.X => 5... do I essentially follow the Source upgrade instructions? Is there a better/easier (for a novice!) way to do this, especially since I am already at 5.3? These boxes are active servers- how long would I be down? Is it even advisable for me to try this? Thank You! ------------------- Dave Koch Gallery Director www.toon.com artwork@cartoon-factory.com 801.255.5771 fax 801.255-5772 ____________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:04:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B5816A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:04:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mac@cs.hmc.edu) Received: from turing.cs.hmc.edu (turing.cs.hmc.edu [134.173.42.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C31B43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:04:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mac@cs.hmc.edu) Received: by turing.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 34126) id CC577532BB; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:04:13 -0700 From: Mac Mason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050621000413.GA297@turing.cs.hmc.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Correct step for setting up MBR on a windows drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:04:14 -0000 --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got a machine with FreeBSD on it. Recently, I added another drive, on which I put Windows. Given that I don't really trust the Windows install program with my MBR, I unplugged the FreeBSD drive during the install.=20 Now, the FreeBSD bootloader can't load windows; if I unplug the FreeBSD drive again, windows boots up happily, but I don't much like the idea of un-plugging and re-plugging drives to make things work.=20 The FreeBSD bootloader notes that there are two drives installed, but picking either one of them results in BSD booting up, not windows.=20 How do I go about teaching the FreeBSD bootloader how to boot Windows?=20 ("Replace it with grub" is a reasonable answer, but I'd rather not go to the trouble, if it's possible) Thanks! --Mac --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (SunOS) iD8DBQFCt1l81AphoTGXiN0RAi5gAJ4+n4MEpuYdSJIkMOLp/E+Mv2W86gCgl1kN 6aAxQ3pYPhiaU9pEQGgb6v4= =bfD4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:21:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8512416A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B24A43D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5L0Q6Yd032166; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:26:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5L0Q5KI032165; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:26:05 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Michal Mertl Message-ID: <20050621002604.GA27726@thought.org> References: <20050620163227.GA68751@thought.org> <1119301097.1210.3.camel@genius1.i.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1119301097.1210.3.camel@genius1.i.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: any ipf wizards out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:21:56 -0000 On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 10:58:17PM +0200, Michal Mertl wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > Folks, > > > > A couple weeks ago I realized that my ipf ruleset was messing > > up my web access ... ad had been for months I just tried an > > older, simpler ipf.rules. Same results. Can anybody out there > > in FreeBSD-land clue me in please? > > Without any concrete information it's hard to guess. The only thing I > can think of is that you don't allow outgoing ICMP packet-too-big. This > will make it for users with small MTU (e.g. some dial-up, PPPoE (ADSL) > impossible to receive bigger pages (longer then their MTU minus > something). > > Did you see my ipf file, listed completely? I have a couplr or more remote sites and can reach them with links | lynx without my ipf.rules. EVErything just-works with the firewall off; turned on and zip. (*****) gary > > > > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:24:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C18216A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A5143D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:24:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j5L0OqKl004612; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:24:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Patrick Domack Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EM Driver problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:24:55 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:48:17 +0000 (UTC), in sentex.lists.freebsd.net you wrote: >I have been using fxp network based cards, without issues. I have = recently=20 >changed over to em cards, and get kernel panics about once every few = days=20 >with them (mainly sbdrop panics). I already have nsfclusters set to 32k,= =20 >and freebsd vm memory=20 >set to 850megs, with 4g memory installed. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kern= eldebug.html#KERNELDEBUG-OBTAIN and post a crash dump. Also give some details like base OS. RELENG_4,RELENG_5 ? HEAD ? Also describe your application environment ? Firewall ? NFS or SMB server etc=20 ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:31:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0D516A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:31:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4007D43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:31:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j5L0VZ5f004838; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:31:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Andy Miller Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:31:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20050620190528.GA5481@charade.trit.org> In-Reply-To: <20050620190528.GA5481@charade.trit.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD L2TP client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:31:37 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:28 +0000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >I am looking for a way to use FreeBSD as a L2TP VPN client. Does anyone >know of a way to do this. I found ng_l2tp, but I'm not quite sure how = to >use it. If anyone has a good how-to, or can give me some direction, I'd >appreciate it. Thank you. See /usr/ports/net/sl2tps ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:37:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E281116A41C; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:37:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from rambo.401.cx (rambo.401.cx [80.65.205.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B3C43D4C; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:37:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from [192.168.200.2] (rocky [192.168.200.2]) by rambo.401.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5L0bAeh068227; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:37:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <42B76136.4090103@401.cx> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:37:10 +0200 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050620134841.30FF54BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050620134841.30FF54BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Erich Dollansky , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:37:14 -0000 Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: *snip* >>FreeBSD is a typical system driven by technical people. > > > Clearly its weakest point. Once again, that depends on your audience. If you ask me, its one of FreeBSD's strongest points. Im one of those "technical people", and the main reason I like BSD is that its not "dumbed down". It does require atleast a minimal amount of clue, and it does not take for granted that the user is an idiot. -- R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:42:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2D316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:42:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@trit.org) Received: from charade.trit.org (charade.trit.org [65.19.139.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA7443D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:42:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@trit.org) Received: by charade.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36C441AF46B; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:42:52 +0000 From: Andy Miller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050621004252.GB5481@charade.trit.org> References: <20050620190528.GA5481@charade.trit.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-Advocacy: Use FreeBSD. X-PGP-Key: 8982ACB9 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 70CC 757F 49BB 0ED4 925C 5BA3 EC6C BF9B 8982 ACB9 Subject: Re: FreeBSD L2TP client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:42:52 -0000 On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:28 +0000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions > you wrote: > > >I am looking for a way to use FreeBSD as a L2TP VPN client. Does anyone > >know of a way to do this. I found ng_l2tp, but I'm not quite sure how to > >use it. If anyone has a good how-to, or can give me some direction, I'd > >appreciate it. Thank you. > > See > /usr/ports/net/sl2tps > > ---Mike What I really need is a VPN client. I already have a server. I need a way to connect from various locations with my laptop. -- Andy Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:54:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA56616A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9894A43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:54:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5L0sRf2050583 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:54:27 -0800 Message-Id: <20050621005427.M23361@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 67.164.14.6 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: apache Logging output changed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:54:31 -0000 apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 FreeBSD-4.11R3 so I upgraded apache 1.3.33 from /usr/ports some about a month ago and around that time I stopped seeing POST log messages for my perl scripts ending up in my server's access logs. any clues why this is no longer being logged. is there some log granualrity configuration that is no longer default? these "POST" messages stopped being logged around the time I upgraded. --- snip --- 647.818.543.973 - - [14/Apr/2005:12:10:00 -0700] "POST /Fakename.pl HTTP/1.1" 405 323 "http://www.fakedomainname.com/html/order.test.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0" 678.9188.843.973 - - [14/Apr/2005:14:02:10 -0700] "POST /Fakename.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 1974 "http://www.fakedomainname.com.com/html/order.test.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0" --- snip --- clues please? cheers, Noha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 00:56:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2721316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E536143D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:56:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F10A0F26A for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78531F24D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6DF11591 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28713-05 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D0A7D11439; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:56:17 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050621005617.GA77163@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: Subject: iPod Shuffle and FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:56:20 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks. I just got a new toy for Father's Day, an iPod Shuffle. Not a bad little gadget (though I'd think they could get more than 512M in there by now), but I don't own a Mac (yet?), and I hate windoze. So I'd like to know which of the port apps people are using with the iPod, particularly the Shuffle. I looked in the ports, and all I found so far was the gnupod, gtkpod and gopod ports. If there are any I've missed, I'd like to know what they are and what you think about them. BTW, I'm using FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE on my home system and 4.11 RELEASE at work. USB 2.0 works great at home, but I'm not sure it works at all at work. TIA Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 All laws are simulations of reality. -- John C. Lilly --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCt2Wxr4Wi/oDI2aIRAhDDAKCMqShZijxTCMoK7SG5r+cRz1UT4gCfZTI4 NrewaquUxjePv8oiXiyK83g= =000W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 01:39:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C29D16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:39:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8A043D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:39:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001764278; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42B76FD1.6060101@atopia.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:39:29 -0400 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050620151530.I27084@neptune.atopia.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:39:31 -0000 >I would start by disabling Hyperthreading in the BIOS. It doesnt >really have much benefit with the default scheduler (might make some >things slower), and seems to cause problems. > > ---Mike > > But I have hyperthreading disabled in the sysctl variable for hyperthreading (can't remember it off the top of my head, but its disabled by default in 5.4 according to UPDATING)....... Am I wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 02:41:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F264616A41F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:41:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3279B43D58 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 5228 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2005 02:40:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by salvador with SMTP; 21 Jun 2005 02:40:57 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050621024057.LJQU1233.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:40:57 +0800 Message-ID: <42B77DDC.6070906@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:39:24 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz References: <20050620134841.30FF54BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050620134841.30FF54BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:41:35 -0000 Hi, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >>This sounds good. How much time is left for you to write it? > > > A couple of weeks :) > > So I have a lot of time to do research. > You could subscribe to more technical lists to see how help is done and what kind of problems people face with a none-technical background. > >>FreeBSD is a typical system driven by technical people. > > Clearly its weakest point. > It is also its strongest point. FreeBSD has a very clear development paradigma. It is far off the chaotic system Linux has. > > Actually, it's not only for the article. > > I also want to create an introductory report where FreeBSD meets > the real life, and try to present it in the same professional > manner that Apple presents their Mac OS X. > This would be very helpful for FreeBSD. > Maybe some can even be used as wording for FreeBSD's new website, > which they desperately need. > Here we are again. But do not forget one thing. This technical way of doing things have to stay as it also presents FreeBSD's strongest point. > >>I know some people who were to afraid to move to FreeBSD as they >>believed installing from source is equal to being a programmer. > > > Yeah I know a lot of people like that :) > They would need two things: a very simple discription of doing things, without any ifs. a very clear message that it does not have to be Microsoft software. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 02:56:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3894516A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD91443D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L2uIpl012310; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:56:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:56:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20050620185545.GF8497@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <20050620225204.F41158@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620144631.F37558@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620185545.GF8497@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:56:21 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > When the system is low on memory, it will force the least used > blocks of memory to swap. It will not free the swap space until > the process owning them exits Have not found any program to see what programs are using the swap, but as I think about it, the current method is not very "smart". I guess any other method is difficult to implement. How wonder how the current method affects performance. Basically if there is a surge of memory usage and processes start that use the swap and these processes are long lived.. I wonder if performance will be affected. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 03:01:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8594816A41F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E7D43D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:01:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j5L31gDV053774; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:01:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:01:42 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Francisco Reyes Message-ID: <20050621030141.GH8497@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620144631.F37558@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620185545.GF8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620225204.F41158@zoraida.natserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620225204.F41158@zoraida.natserv.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:01:44 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 20), Francisco Reyes said: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > > When the system is low on memory, it will force the least used > > blocks of memory to swap. It will not free the swap space until > > the process owning them exits > > Have not found any program to see what programs are using the swap, > but as I think about it, the current method is not very "smart". I > guess any other method is difficult to implement. > > How wonder how the current method affects performance. Basically if > there is a surge of memory usage and processes start that use the > swap and these processes are long lived.. I wonder if performance > will be affected. There may even be a performance gain, since if the system comes under memory pressure again, some of the in-memory pages of those long-lived processes previously copied to swap may still be clean, and the system won't even have to page them out; it can simply free the RAM. I can't think of any way for there to be a performance hit, unless you actually run out of swap. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 03:08:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA4916A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AB943D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L37w1g016502; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:07:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:07:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20050621030141.GH8497@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <20050620230435.H41158@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620144631.F37558@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620185545.GF8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620225204.F41158@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050621030141.GH8497@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:08:02 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jun 20), Francisco Reyes said: >> How wonder how the current method affects performance. Basically if >> there is a surge of memory usage and processes start that use the >> swap and these processes are long lived.. I wonder if performance >> will be affected. > > There may even be a performance gain, since if the system comes under > memory pressure again, some of the in-memory pages of those long-lived > processes previously copied to swap may still be clean, and the system > won't even have to page them out; it can simply free the RAM. I can't > think of any way for there to be a performance hit, unless you actually > run out of swap. I must really be missing something here.. My case. 384MB of RAM For several days swap was 0. That to me means that everything was fitting nicely into memory. At one point in the last few days I must have opened too many windows/apps.. and the OS actually had to use swap. Once I closed programs (xpecially X, Opera, and other GUI apps) I expected the swap would go back to 0. Swap remained at 10MB.. Whatever processes are using the swap aren't they accessing the HD? Can there be swap usage, yet the OS doing all the work on memory? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 03:12:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A7F16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:12:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA76D43D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:12:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 6E8B31800343 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:12:01 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 21 Jun 2005 03:03:05 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1B3E54C35B; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:55:39 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:55:38 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:55:38 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:12:01 -0000 Hello. Thank you all for everything so far. But I am not looking for comparisons. I am looking for stuff that has been written so that people can understand. Let's say this: Multi-threaded SMP architecture capable of executing the kernel in parallel= on multiple processors, and with kernel preemption, allowing high priority= kernel tasks to preempt other kernel activity, reducing latency. This incl= udes a multi-threaded network stack and a multi-threaded virtual memory sub= system. With FreeBSD 6.x, support for a fully parallel VFS allows the UFS f= ile system to run on multiple processors simultaneously, permitting load sh= aring of CPU-intensive I/O optimization. In the real world, that ought to sound more like: FreeBSD includes support for symmetric multiprocessing and multithreading. = This makes the kernel lock down levels of interfaces and buffers, minimizin= g the chance of threads on different processors blocking each other, to giv= e maximum performance on multiprocessor systems. Thanks. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 03:38:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D079416A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:38:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1120189138.8b088f@mired.org) Received: from delight.idiom.com (delight.idiom.com [216.240.32.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B517343D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:38:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1120189138.8b088f@mired.org) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by delight.idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D681F9697 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mired.org (mwm@idiom [216.240.32.1]) by idiom.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L3csmI003499 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:38:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1120189138.8b088f@mired.org) Received: (qmail 11905 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Jun 2005 03:38:58 -0000 Received: by guru.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:38:58 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17079.35793.697409.175239@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:38:57 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 17) "Jumbo Shrimp" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) Cc: Subject: Finding a wireless lan card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:38:56 -0000 I recently asked for help finding a wireless lan card. I got a couple of solid suggestions, some suggestions on buying a "wireless ethernet bridge", and a "wireless lan master list" for Linux systems. Since my solution was none of the above, I wanted to post it so it would show up in the search engines. The Linux wireless lan master list was rather long, and turned out to be pretty useless. Some of the chipsets listed don't have FreeBSD drivers; some of the drivers FreeBSD has aren't on that list. Further, as others noted here, sonme some of the manufacturers rev chipsets - or even change chipsets completely(!) without changing the product identification. What I wound up doing was buying a Wireless Access Point from Linksys, which could be set to "bridge mode". Turns out it only bridges to products from the same company. It does, however, have an "AP client" mode that doesn't have that restriction. That lets me survey the local wireless networks, chose one, and connect to it. Worked like a charm. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 03:49:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA5E16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:49:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4B143D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:49:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j5L3nuLv057699; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:49:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:49:56 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Francisco Reyes Message-ID: <20050621034956.GI8497@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620144631.F37558@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620185545.GF8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620225204.F41158@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050621030141.GH8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620230435.H41158@zoraida.natserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620230435.H41158@zoraida.natserv.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:49:58 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 20), Francisco Reyes said: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > >In the last episode (Jun 20), Francisco Reyes said: > >>How wonder how the current method affects performance. Basically if > >>there is a surge of memory usage and processes start that use the > >>swap and these processes are long lived.. I wonder if performance > >>will be affected. > > > >There may even be a performance gain, since if the system comes > >under memory pressure again, some of the in-memory pages of those > >long-lived processes previously copied to swap may still be clean, > >and the system won't even have to page them out; it can simply free > >the RAM. I can't think of any way for there to be a performance > >hit, unless you actually run out of swap. > > I must really be missing something here.. My case. 384MB of RAM For > several days swap was 0. That to me means that everything was fitting > nicely into memory. > > At one point in the last few days I must have opened too many > windows/apps.. and the OS actually had to use swap. > > Once I closed programs (xpecially X, Opera, and other GUI apps) I > expected the swap would go back to 0. Have you disabled all of your console login screens? Each one has a getty process that'll never get swapped back in if you always use X. Same thing for sshd, sendmail, /bin/sh wrapper scripts around programs, and probably a dozen other processes that get rarely used on an X desktop machine. You've got more than enough idle pages to account for 10MB of used swap. > Swap remained at 10MB.. Whatever processes are using the swap aren't > they accessing the HD? If you mean "aren't they accessing swap?", the answer is "only the first time they need to retrieve the pages". To the virtual memory system, swap is no different from the disk blocks used to store the contents of /bin/ls. The first time you use them, they get paged into RAM. The next time, they're already in RAM. If the system is low on RAM, it first discards clean pages that it can re-fetch from disk (/bin/ls code for example, or process memory that was swapped out at some point but is still clean). The remainder is either dirty disk cache pages (which it can simply sync to disk), or private process memory (which gets written to new swap blocks). > Can there be swap usage, yet the OS doing all the work on memory? Certainly. It's easy to verify this by tunning top and watching the Swap line. If you don't see any "In/Out" data, you're not swapping. You can also run "vmstat -s | grep swap" at intervals and verify that the counters aren't increasing. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 04:36:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CBA16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:36:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6528943D58 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:36:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L4aekU049975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:36:40 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5L4adFm077648; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:36:39 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:36:39 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506210436.j5L4adFm077648@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: OT: Crypyography X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:36:44 -0000 Hi, This is unrelated but if there is any cryptography guru around, I know the crypted text, I know the decrypted text, but I am looking for the algorythm, or a direction where to look for. Each pair is crypted then decrypted text. TIA Olivier ^WWQFNY:(535aDF*OMH\CZB_9JD9RWGH.X\\@AUQc0A(^>Qc5/;J]X-G4Gb6Q*V^)S:1G[$FVQ3SC?)5-^3,HG9 /etc/avmilter.conf 50F<\]43+**3\A-GK/(^$O0-Y`$V;,5B8STc(Ab[^>>cFF9[X-aY>,FBU6$@.23,7VY /var/spool/avmilter/incoming/qf-19442-10976272 \,-NT<'_.U)_PATZ2SK_'=Q*O;>b\+>/<,&:aO4\G+AUD>I[(8>)YGc_R$8J:;X\/'TID;Na1A8NFR(aR?`W /var/spool/avmilter/incoming/qf-26690-96174225 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 06:18:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F032D16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:18:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sparrox@free.fr) Received: from mallaury.noc.nerim.net (smtp-102-tuesday.noc.nerim.net [62.4.17.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4CF43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:18:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sparrox@free.fr) Received: from mail.planete-linux.net (fandres.net1.nerim.net [62.212.118.132]) by mallaury.noc.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD6362D05 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:18:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.planete-linux.net (Postfix, from userid 80) id D212873153; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:18:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 217.169.133.249 ([217.169.133.249]) by www.planete-linux.net (Horde) with HTTP for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:18:12 +0200 Message-ID: <20050621081812.m5ub5cvkys4og0wc@www.planete-linux.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:18:12 +0200 From: Frederic Andres To: FreeBSD Questions List References: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> <20050620143858.GA70289@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20050620143858.GA70289@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Subject: Re: utility that will dump a web page to std out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:18:15 -0000 you can also use Lynx with the -dump option. Fred Quoting David Kelly : > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:05:48AM -0500, Brian John wrote: >> Hello, >> Does anyone know of a utility that will get a webpage and dump the >> output to standard out? I was going to use wget, but it dumps the >> output to a file. Any ideas? > > fetch -o - http://url > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 06:35:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB05816A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:35:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rperry@gti.net) Received: from apollo.gti.net (apollo.gti.net [199.171.27.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00F743D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:35:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rperry@gti.net) Received: from homey.my.domain (ts6m-pool0-110.gti.net [208.216.115.110]) by apollo.gti.net (mail) with ESMTP id 2DC7435833 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:31:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Perry To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:32:44 -0400 Message-Id: <1119335564.80965.39.camel@homey.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Unable to decipher error "ELF binary type 3 not known" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:35:31 -0000 Cvsup'd system last weekend but was unable to complete portupgrade due to following error: ELF binary type "3" not known execution of expat-1.95.5_2 script failed, exit status 255 ELF binary type "3" not known /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. *** Error code 1 The error apears while system is upgrading linux-expat-1.95.5_2 to linux-expat-1.95.5_3. The error continues: Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. ** Command failed [exitcode 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade80885.59 make reinstall egrep: /var/db/pkg/linux-expat-1.95.5_2/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory ---> Restoring the old version ** Fix the installation problem and try again. Tried to deinstall/reinstall linux-expat-1.95.5_3 but received same error. When I ran portupgrade -arR again, I received a Stale dependency error recommending I manually run pkgdb -F to fix, or specify -O to force. I run pkgdb -F and each package which had been skipped earlier in the upgrade due to the original error now appear in Stale dependency scripts asking if I want to replace linux-expat-1.95.5_2. The "score" in the first stale dependency issue is only 31%. Nothing confuses me more than dealing with stale dependencies so I tried reviewing mail archives and googling for an answer. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can resolve this error? FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 07:08:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52E116A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:08:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philip@xms.co.za) Received: from mail.int.xm.co.za (email.xm.co.za [196.23.175.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDB643D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:08:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philip@xms.co.za) Received: from mailnull by mail.int.xm.co.za with virus-scanned (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dkczr-0003hZ-G0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:35 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.227] (helo=linux.int.xm.co.za) by mail.int.xm.co.za with esmtp (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dkczr-0003hU-Bf for Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:35 +0200 From: Philip Wege To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: XM Solutions Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:05:16 -0700 Message-Id: <1119369916.4660.14.camel@linux.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Sshd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: philip@xms.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:08:10 -0000 Installed freebsd 5.3 , put the box on the local network , used ssh to setup the box. Changed ip address to public address and made the box live so to speak. Ever since the ip was changed i am unable to ssh into the box , logs show error : Fatal timeout before authentication could occur. Things like Allow root login and all that was set because ssh was used just after the ip change did this happen. Is this a known issue that ssh stops working after an ip change or anyone got nay ideas on this issue ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 07:13:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A4816A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:13:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F16E43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:13:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L7Cx3G055819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:12:59 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5L7CwED078727; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:12:58 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:12:58 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506210712.j5L7CwED078727@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: philip@xms.co.za In-reply-to: <1119369916.4660.14.camel@linux.site> (message from Philip Wege on Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:05:16 -0700) References: <1119369916.4660.14.camel@linux.site> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sshd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:13:02 -0000 > Changed ip address to public address and made the box live so to speak. > Ever since the ip was changed i am unable to ssh into the box , logs > show error : Fatal timeout before authentication could occur. Did you, by any chance, used the IP from a previous box that was already configured with SSH server? In that case your ssh client would have the public key for the old server in it's table of known hosts, and would find a missmatch with the public key of the new server. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 07:17:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EFD16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:17:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BD0A43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2005 07:17:21 -0000 Received: from pD952C81A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.200.26] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 21 Jun 2005 09:17:21 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-bhcIqTziGGkYveQRyQL2" Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:17:20 +0200 Message-Id: <1119338240.527.5.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:17:24 -0000 --=-bhcIqTziGGkYveQRyQL2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 14:55 -0500, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > Hello. >=20 > Thank you all for everything so far. >=20 > But I am not looking for comparisons. >=20 > I am looking for stuff that has been written so that people can understan= d. >=20 > Let's say this: >=20 > Multi-threaded SMP architecture capable of executing the kernel in parall= el on multiple processors, and with kernel preemption, allowing high priori= ty kernel tasks to preempt other kernel activity, reducing latency. This in= cludes a multi-threaded network stack and a multi-threaded virtual memory s= ubsystem. With FreeBSD 6.x, support for a fully parallel VFS allows the UFS= file system to run on multiple processors simultaneously, permitting load = sharing of CPU-intensive I/O optimization. >=20 > In the real world, that ought to sound more like: >=20 > FreeBSD includes support for symmetric multiprocessing and multithreading= . This makes the kernel lock down levels of interfaces and buffers, minimiz= ing the chance of threads on different processors blocking each other, to g= ive maximum performance on multiprocessor systems. >=20 > Thanks. But then again, if you are new to computers or are not that into the technical stuff, neither the first nor the second description would make much sense, or is easy to understand. So I for one would stick with the first.=20 --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-bhcIqTziGGkYveQRyQL2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCt78AaRsDctJfzIERAvfNAKCbt4Lju2Mn1NZ4iTntcVXIME4gpwCeMLf0 KvJVXPpny5FoEDvh+kgF5dY= =el/K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-bhcIqTziGGkYveQRyQL2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 07:28:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E3416A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:28:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46BA43D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:28:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id RAA01985 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:28:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:28:18 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050621043701.EC21A16A429@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:28:25 -0000 [was] Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 100, Issue 5 > Message: 32 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:07:58 -0400 (EDT) > From: Francisco Reyes > Subject: Re: When does swap decreases > To: Dan Nelson > Cc: FreeBSD Questions List > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > > > In the last episode (Jun 20), Francisco Reyes said: > >> How wonder how the current method affects performance. Basically if > >> there is a surge of memory usage and processes start that use the > >> swap and these processes are long lived.. I wonder if performance > >> will be affected. > > > > There may even be a performance gain, since if the system comes under > > memory pressure again, some of the in-memory pages of those long-lived > > processes previously copied to swap may still be clean, and the system > > won't even have to page them out; it can simply free the RAM. I can't > > think of any way for there to be a performance hit, unless you actually > > run out of swap. > I must really be missing something here.. > My case. 384MB of RAM > For several days swap was 0. > That to me means that everything was fitting nicely into memory. I needn't add anything to Dan's technical explanation, especially in a subsequent message to the one quoted; you can confidently listen to him. However, Francisco, I'd like to address your apparent impression that any use of swap is somehow 'bad' .. > At one point in the last few days I must have opened too many > windows/apps.. and the OS actually had to use swap. Yes, well that's ok. > Once I closed programs (xpecially X, Opera, and other GUI apps) I expected > the swap would go back to 0. > > Swap remained at 10MB.. Whatever processes are using the swap aren't they > accessing the HD? If you run top you'll see that, while swap usage often doesn't show a decrease, or at least as much as you'd expect, meanwhile it will show more Free memory. Further processes you open will first use that, and possibly some of your Cache and/or Buf memory, before increasing swap. > Can there be swap usage, yet the OS doing all the work on memory? Yes indeed. For example, on this little old Compaq Armada 1500c laptop with all of 160Mb RAM, it often shows up to 40-50% swap used, but most of it is associated with, for example, the 19 kwrite windows I currently have open, or perhaps a dozen communicator-linux threads, without at all impacting performance (such as it is on a 300MHz Celeron :) because most of these processes are quiescent. Here's the top of my current top list ordered by resident memory use ('o res' in top). last pid: 39824; load averages: 0.01, 0.05, 0.00 up 61+20:05:59 17:03:21 98 processes: 5 running, 92 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU states: 1.5% user, 0.2% nice, 2.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 96.3% idle Mem: 85M Active, 13M Inact, 36M Wired, 5804K Cache, 25M Buf, 14M Free Swap: 192M Total, 72M Used, 120M Free, 37% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 38686 smithi 2 0 30904K 25060K select 6:40 0.00% 0.00% communicator-l 18434 smithi 2 0 28844K 18660K select 412:00 0.93% 0.93% XF86_SVGA 18491 smithi 2 0 24292K 13084K select 27:50 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 38688 smithi 2 0 16820K 8640K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% communicator-l 34607 smithi 2 0 20068K 7532K select 3:50 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18489 smithi 2 0 18056K 6236K select 10:00 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 31536 smithi 2 0 20064K 5416K select 0:40 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 39334 smithi 2 0 7980K 5400K select 0:05 0.00% 0.00% gs 31507 smithi 2 0 20100K 4736K select 0:38 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18499 smithi 2 0 16544K 4436K select 58:08 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18458 smithi 2 0 15236K 4400K select 132:26 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18500 smithi 2 0 16180K 4332K select 2:07 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18495 smithi 2 0 15084K 4256K select 49:08 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18475 smithi 2 0 16960K 4156K select 3:44 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18506 smithi 2 0 16752K 3660K select 18:40 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18502 smithi 2 0 16312K 3060K select 7:24 0.20% 0.20% kdeinit 34420 smithi 2 0 14892K 2668K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18501 smithi 2 0 16264K 2640K select 5:10 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 29824 smithi 2 0 20020K 2432K select 1:26 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 39331 smithi 2 0 3000K 2168K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gv 18456 smithi 2 0 15000K 2116K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18505 smithi 2 0 15764K 2056K select 0:33 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 39728 root 2 0 2476K 1672K select 0:11 0.00% 0.00% ppp 39731 smithi 2 0 2504K 1612K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% ssh 18510 smithi 2 0 22456K 1220K select 1:14 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18473 smithi 2 0 16908K 1088K select 0:08 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 39805 smithi 36 4 2036K 1068K RUN 0:04 0.05% 0.05% top 18474 smithi 2 0 9696K 1024K select 0:06 0.00% 0.00% ksmserver 18449 smithi 2 0 14532K 992K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 18487 smithi 2 0 6020K 964K poll 305:49 0.00% 0.00% x11amp [..] Nothing much to worry about there; I'm in good shape, check the uptime, actually since January, given that it's asleep when I am :) Eventually Netscape will leak enough memory I'll need to restart it to free another 30Mb or so, but that's not FreeBSD's fault. (4.5-RELEASE, fwiw) In short, be glad you only have 10Mb swap used to worry about :) Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 07:33:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6638C16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DC043D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 810C4102EA7; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomcat.phantombsd.org (tomcat.phantombsd.org [192.168.1.6]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60615102D50; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:33:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey Scott To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, philip@xms.co.za Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:33:12 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <1119369916.4660.14.camel@linux.site> In-Reply-To: <1119369916.4660.14.camel@linux.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506210033.12163.casey@phantombsd.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HOT_NASTY autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Cc: Subject: Re: Sshd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:33:13 -0000 Unfortunately, sshd remains bound to the IP it had when it started. This isn't an issue with FBSD, but with OpenSSH. I see this all the time on other UNIX/Linux boxes. A possible solution to it in the future would be to issue a HUP to sshd using "nohup". e.g. root@host# nohup ifconfig xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; killall -HUP sshd Hope that helps Casey On Tuesday 21 June 2005 09:05 am, Philip Wege wrote: > Things like Allow root login and all that was set because ssh was used > just after the ip change did this happen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 07:52:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5778F16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:52:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1171343D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:52:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1239605wra for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:52:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hrP/gyhmOZkrUQtQpAv2dTtKyzX8owylqrn3kpFxfrlDYOFd/yaArin6BlSYFhKQW9Z9luFqfNZrB+MGDcAwDGiZOteaE7LDZLckp8Ucx+Ei8zkjNRVGZnsEl6wBvdCLL9UrVxg5fYE1pVkbn9bFWa2O8XSnXoDMA0+GQYaIyLc= Received: by 10.54.91.12 with SMTP id o12mr3020101wrb; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.94.7 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:52:11 +0100 From: Freminlins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: dump with -L flag - machine truely unresponsive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Freminlins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:52:12 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 5.4 machine with a SCSI hard drive. I dump all our machines onto a nfs-mounted filer. There are some files which it's important not to clobber during the dump, so I've been experimenting with dump using the -L flag like so: dump auLf /var /mnt/dump/var What I have noticed is that during the time that the machine is taking its snapshot, it becomes completely unreachable on the net. It is impossible to ssh or even ping it. Our monitoring reports that the machine has dropped off the net, but once the snapshot is finished it is available again. The machine itself does not drop, it just appears to drop. Has anyone seen this before? I certainly haven't. And if so, does anyone have a fix (apart from going back to dump without -L)? For info the partitions are suspended during the snapshot for these amounts of time: Jun 21 03:00:08 gia kernel: /: suspended 7.003 sec, redo 0 of 4 Jun 21 03:08:41 gia kernel: /var: suspended 57.036 sec, redo 25 of 2775 Jun 21 03:22:19 gia kernel: /home: suspended 1.037 sec, redo 0 of 4 Jun 21 03:23:56 gia kernel: /usr: suspended 40.246 sec, redo 0 of 14 Thanks, Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 07:55:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C77C16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:55:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philip@xms.co.za) Received: from mail.int.xm.co.za (email.xm.co.za [196.23.175.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E1043D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:55:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philip@xms.co.za) Received: from mailnull by mail.int.xm.co.za with virus-scanned (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dkdjr-0003uz-EV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:04:07 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.227] (helo=linux.int.xm.co.za) by mail.int.xm.co.za with esmtp (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dkdjr-0003up-8L; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:04:07 +0200 From: Philip Wege To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200506210712.j5L7CwED078727@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <1119369916.4660.14.camel@linux.site> <200506210712.j5L7CwED078727@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: XM Solutions Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:52:48 -0700 Message-Id: <1119372768.4660.18.camel@linux.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sshd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: philip@xms.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:55:34 -0000 You cant even ssh onto the server from itself , it still times out. On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 14:12 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > Changed ip address to public address and made the box live so to speak. > > Ever since the ip was changed i am unable to ssh into the box , logs > > show error : Fatal timeout before authentication could occur. > > Did you, by any chance, used the IP from a previous box that was > already configured with SSH server? > > In that case your ssh client would have the public key for the old > server in it's table of known hosts, and would find a missmatch with > the public key of the new server. > > Olivier > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 07:59:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4170F16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:59:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soheil.h.y@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD48043D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:59:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soheil.h.y@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1140325wra for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:59:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bd8sP5PQBBABPaEe13KGir9iXWl+w5+MVM51htQfavI2sNrT7OI2Zl2841llCVbaJYFwg4Qlz5THO9wl2o9koSihwLq7Zs1vxmIJlFlk+M6hPmaycKK3jEqCIK3dkJdADFnNgN3QJOZkWwgGhgKKNuYZ1aTO1xxxms5ieJxUZS0= Received: by 10.54.76.12 with SMTP id y12mr139431wra; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.86.7 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c90b77205062100592e7df922@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:29:09 +0430 From: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_365_30518811.1119340749353" Cc: Subject: failed to load nvidia driver (NVIDIA 7174 on Xorg-6.8.2/FreeBSD 5.4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:59:10 -0000 ------=_Part_365_30518811.1119340749353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dear All, I had portupgrade to the Xorg-6.8.2 and NVIDIA-7174.=20 When I run X -configure it says : (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (once-only module, -1077942264) and then it uses nv instead of nvidia driver. 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<20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:05:36 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Fafa Hafiz >Krantz >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:56 PM >To: questions@freebsd.org; advocacy@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > > > >Hello. > >Thank you all for everything so far. > >But I am not looking for comparisons. > >I am looking for stuff that has been written so that people can >understand. > >Let's say this: > >Multi-threaded SMP architecture capable of executing the kernel >in parallel on multiple processors, and with kernel preemption, >allowing high priority kernel tasks to preempt other kernel >activity, reducing latency. This includes a multi-threaded >network stack and a multi-threaded virtual memory subsystem. >With FreeBSD 6.x, support for a fully parallel VFS allows the >UFS file system to run on multiple processors simultaneously, >permitting load sharing of CPU-intensive I/O optimization. > >In the real world, that ought to sound more like: > >FreeBSD includes support for symmetric multiprocessing and >multithreading. This makes the kernel lock down levels of >interfaces and buffers, minimizing the chance of threads on >different processors blocking each other, to give maximum >performance on multiprocessor systems. > Fafa, I've seen these kinds of efforts before and they are all generally doomed to failure. You see, the problem is that FreeBSD is not a general computer operating system product. It is a very specific product in fact. Now, the USES that FreeBSD can be put to are VERY general. BUT, do NOT make the mistake of confusing the fact that just because FreeBSD can be put to general use, that somehow it is a general product. It is not. FreeBSD is targeted at 2 main groups of people: 1) Very knowledgeable people who are using it for personal, or in-house corporate projects. 2) Very knowledgeable people who are using it to construct turnkey systems for customers who couldn't care less what is under the hood. By contrast, Windows and Linux are in fact, general computer operating system products. They are targeted at groups #1 and #2, but they are also targeted at group #3 which are: 3) People who barely know how to push a button who have a problem they need to fix with a computer operating system, and they really don't care if they understand how the fix works as long as it works. This gives rise to a rather serious Catch-22 with FreeBSD: You need to really understand intimately how FreeBSD works and how computer software that runs on it works in order to get it to work well enough for you to learn intimately how it works. Windows and Linux solved this Catch-22 by dumbing-down the interface to their operating systems. Thus, an ignoramus can get up and running with both of these systems, and that person can remain fat, dumb, and happy, completely ignorant of what he is doing, and those systems will still work enough to get the job done. It may be a half-assed fix, but it is better than nothing. FreeBSD by contrast, long ago decided not to do this. For starters, if you dumbed-down the FreeBSD interface, then to most people FreeBSD wouldn't be any different than Linux or Windows, so why mess with it? But, most importantly, a dumbed-down interface gets in the way of a knowledgeable person, and over time becomes a tremendous liability. With FreeBSD, the only way that a newbie can break the Catch-22 is old-fashioned mental elbow grease. In short, by learning a bit at a time, expanding on that, and repeating the process. It is a long slow way to get to know anything, but once you get there, you really do know everything in intimate detail. This isn't a popular thing to tell newbies. Ted >Thanks. > >-- > >Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf > > > >-- >___________________________________________________________ >Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com >http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 08:06:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B215816A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:06:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E56B43D5D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:06:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so1240419wri for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:06:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FJdI9LYhyTNsp631B/ckbb9iLwA3pzqwATfWA5meedggiHfzFT4q3qI0lNd/oZcHNv3YBA2K78m3YhPey+Y38j5ED+i346M7wAKseq48bP4aqmxUxKFhiogJHwrELKkQQUkFxig2Wj66CCI3zpM+HUueYZypWSrqVDSe2AxHSIE= Received: by 10.54.28.17 with SMTP id b17mr3023009wrb; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.4 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <126eac48050621010664da9889@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:06:41 -0400 From: Josh Ockert To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200506210436.j5L4adFm077648@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506210436.j5L4adFm077648@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Crypyography X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:06:42 -0000 On 6/21/05, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, >=20 > This is unrelated but if there is any cryptography guru around, I know > the crypted text, I know the decrypted text, but I am looking for the > algorythm, or a direction where to look for. >=20 > Each pair is crypted then decrypted text. >=20 > TIA >=20 > Olivier >=20 > ^WWQFNY:(535aDF*OMH\CZB_9JD9RWGH.X\\@AUQc0A(^>Qc5/;J]X-G4Gb6Q*V^ /var/spool/avmilter/incoming/df-17453-29175713 >=20 > c2-E3I3L0]U^P0>)S:1G[$FVQ3SC?)5-^3,HG9 > /etc/avmilter.conf >=20 > 50F<\]43+**3\A-GK/(^$O0-Y`$V;,5B8STc(Ab[^>>cFF= 9[X-aY>,FBU6$@.23,7VY > /var/spool/avmilter/incoming/qf-19442-10976272 >=20 > \,-NT<'_.U)_PATZ2SK_'=3DQ*O;>b\+>/<,&:aO4\G+AUD>I[(8>)YGc_R$8= J:;X\/'TID;Na1A8NFR(aR?`W > /var/spool/avmilter/incoming/qf-26690-96174225 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 I don't know much about cryptography but it seems to me that it might help to know why this would be encrypted, and how you know what's what. If you know what made it, you might be able to find out what the algorithm is. Also, why is it important to find the algorithm but not the key? I would suggest an MD5 hash or something except that I don't believe MD5 hashes produce different-length ciphertext for same-length plaintext. The key word is "believe" (not even "think"), because I'm totally talking out my [EDIT]. --=20 Josh Ockert WMU Student: Computer Science, French Linguistics -- The irony in biblical creationists' rhetoric of implicitly claiming that God is too stupid to make carbon decay at a constant rate is too delicious to ignore. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 08:23:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC0616A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790FD43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so334086wri for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:23:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BpyB4XGM2BOf3pEdWFI39U3WHZ5rq8qsvRmTzIoqlhQnU5gGePgwHqX3AGORHV1KuTEt4cq6qcoF3kzix7P5d/UOShVyQsBEp0UI7Y64ClAG3uJe6v4dGt5gQxa+qOiEHEZW6Vh7zqxq9srDnuTNVpR+vXBEgypTsS3ij5CiBnU= Received: by 10.54.54.18 with SMTP id c18mr3032071wra; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:23:38 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050621000413.GA297@turing.cs.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050621000413.GA297@turing.cs.hmc.edu> Cc: mac@cs.hmc.edu Subject: Re: Correct step for setting up MBR on a windows drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:23:39 -0000 On 6/21/05, Mac Mason wrote: > I've got a machine with FreeBSD on it. Recently, I added another drive, > on which I put Windows. Given that I don't really trust the Windows > install program with my MBR, I unplugged the FreeBSD drive during the > install. >=20 > Now, the FreeBSD bootloader can't load windows; if I unplug the FreeBSD > drive again, windows boots up happily, but I don't much like the idea of > un-plugging and re-plugging drives to make things work. >=20 > The FreeBSD bootloader notes that there are two drives installed, but > picking either one of them results in BSD booting up, not windows. >=20 > How do I go about teaching the FreeBSD bootloader how to boot Windows? >=20 > ("Replace it with grub" is a reasonable answer, but I'd rather not go to > the trouble, if it's possible) I am having exactly the same problem, but with FreeBSD and NetWare, and am looking for a solution to it. I did not actually unplug the drives but just disabled the secondary IDE controller in BIOS (where FreeBSD was installed) before installing NetWare. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 08:26:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE5B16A41C; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:26:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBC443D1F; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:26:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id B054017B937; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:26:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 84306-01-5; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:26:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF8617B8AF; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:26:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03505C0A; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:26:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Soheil Hassas Yeganeh Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:26:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <4c90b77205062100592e7df922@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4c90b77205062100592e7df922@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506211026.47116.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: failed to load nvidia driver (NVIDIA 7174 on Xorg-6.8.2/FreeBSD 5.4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:26:52 -0000 On Tuesday 21 of June 2005 09:59, Soheil Hassas Yeganeh wrote: > Dear All, > I had portupgrade to the Xorg-6.8.2 and NVIDIA-7174. > When I run X -configure it says : > > (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (once-only module, -1077942264) > > and then it uses nv instead of nvidia driver. > The verbose log is attached. This log doesn't show X using nv driver. It however shows it is trying to load nvidia module twice, succeeding the first and failing the second time. After that, there is still line: (II) NVIDIA X Driver 1.0-7174 Tue Mar 22 06:54:34 PST 2005 which would come from 'nvidia' driver, so it seems to be loaded. This actually looks like a log from 'X -configure' run, which would indeed try to load all drivers and therefore also 'nv'. It would be more interesting to see log from running X server. How does configuration file (xorg.conf) look like? Dejan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 08:29:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4135B16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:29:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFC143D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:29:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DB017B843; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:29:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 84134-02-9; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:29:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9BC17B830; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:29:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BE35C0A; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:29:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Ian Barnes Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:29:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506211029.06095.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problem installing x.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:29:10 -0000 Ian Barnes wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for that tip. I tried it, but it still doesn't work. I also tried a > pkgdb -F to see if anything else was amiss. I also tried uninstalling > imake6 and letting xorg install imake during the build, and even after > completing the install, it moaned and bombed out. Still not finding imake? Do you have PATH variable set to some custom value? Does output of running (cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg && make -V PATH) include /usr/X11R6/bin? Dejan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 09:24:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2C516A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cknipe@hybyte.com) Received: from ctb-mesg5.saix.net (ctb-mesg5.saix.net [196.25.240.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64B943D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:24:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cknipe@hybyte.com) Received: from smtp01.za.hybyte.net (wbs-146-184-170.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.184.170]) by ctb-mesg5.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B343D1C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:23:44 +0200 (SAST) Received: from 030-001.za.hybyte.net ([192.168.1.30] helo=pc2xp) by smtp01.za.hybyte.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Dkeys-0003J8-r3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:23:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c57642$edfce460$1e01a8c0@pc2xp> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:23:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: OT Shell Script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:24:07 -0000 May be a bit off topic, but I don't know any sh scripting lists that I'm = subscribed to... :) If I run the script from shell / console, it runs without a problem.... = Running it via cron, I get: [: 6: unexpected operator The script: #!/bin/sh HOSTNAME=3D`/usr/bin/uname -n` SIZE=3D`/usr/bin/du /var/log/MYAPP/|/usr/bin/cut -c 1-7` ROTATE=3D"1024000" if [ -e /tmp/.rotate ]; then return 1 else touch /tmp/.rotate if [ $SIZE -ge $ROTATE ]; then /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/backup/var/logs cd /usr/local/backup/var/logs for X in `ls /var/log/MYAPP/`; do rm -f $X.9.tgz mv $X.8.tgz $X.9.tgz mv $X.7.tgz $X.8.tgz mv $X.6.tgz $X.7.tgz mv $X.5.tgz $X.6.tgz mv $X.4.tgz $X.5.tgz mv $X.3.tgz $X.4.tgz mv $X.2.tgz $X.3.tgz mv $X.1.tgz $X.2.tgz /usr/bin/tar -czf $X.1.tgz /var/log/MYAPP/$X > /dev/null /bin/cat /dev/null > /var/log/MYAPP/$X done /bin/echo "/var/log/MYAPP Rotated on $HOSTNAME" | /usr/bin/mail -s = "MYAPP Log Rotation" my@somwhere fi /bin/rm /tmp/.rotate fi No, unfortunately, I MUST script this, I cannot use logrotate / = newsyslog / name your fav log rotation tool, as they all destroy active = file handles on the log file. cating /dev/null to the log is a good way = to clean the log, whilst allowing a MULTITUDE of applicating writing to = the file, to keep their file handles in tact....=20 Anyone that can give me a indication of what is going haywire in the = script? Thank you kindly, Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 09:35:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822DA16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:35:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r.lupton@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B00F43D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:35:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r.lupton@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so19387nzp for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:35:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XLtzCPiUnzbbJrZG2/2GC90CXRQAH63Bn2S4J8BlFHrBrkBUMYSp4WP5Kw9MPKKz/RWKbBAOtk2QXURjDXklM3b5ds2Mh7q+dhZEveXGKElsiy4jHx6od8D0f6qJf9AmArjl7QazW1T0BFa8X9qBms3hYeoAknnN+B09gLyF500= Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr3919317nzc; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.4 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <303718d905062102351612ac2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:35:41 +0100 From: Richard Lupton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: CPU usage shown by top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Richard Lupton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:35:42 -0000 Hello, Can anyone explain where the CPU usage values in top come from? When my computer is busy, the "CPU states" row in the header shows reasonably high load, but the sum of the cpu column never adds up to as much. Thanks, Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 10:02:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A48316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:02:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086DB43D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:02:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:03:09 +0100 Message-ID: <42B7E5B3.3080706@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:02:27 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Knipe References: <000601c57642$edfce460$1e01a8c0@pc2xp> In-Reply-To: <000601c57642$edfce460$1e01a8c0@pc2xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 10:03:09.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D6055C0:01C57648] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT Shell Script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:02:30 -0000 Chris Knipe wrote: >May be a bit off topic, but I don't know any sh scripting lists that I'm subscribed to... :) > >If I run the script from shell / console, it runs without a problem.... Running it via cron, I get: [: 6: unexpected operator > >The script: >#!/bin/sh >HOSTNAME=`/usr/bin/uname -n` >SIZE=`/usr/bin/du /var/log/MYAPP/|/usr/bin/cut -c 1-7` >ROTATE="1024000" >if [ -e /tmp/.rotate ]; then > > Maybe your path doesn't have [ in it. Try if /bin/[ -e /tmp/.rotate ]; then or if /bin/test -e /tmp/.rotate; then Same for all your other [ tests. Or just make sure that /bin is in your path at the top of the script. It's often a good idea to set path explicitly for scripts, in case someone who runs it has something weird in their path, like their own [ or test or whatever. I notice the rest of the commands all have absolute pathnames avoiding the path issue, but I like setting the path anyway as it's really easy to forget to use absolute pathnames since we are so used to the shell finding things for us at the command line. --Alex --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 10:05:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6465916A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:05:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0328F43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:06:05 +0100 Message-ID: <42B7E663.6070606@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:05:23 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mac Mason References: <20050621000413.GA297@turing.cs.hmc.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050621000413.GA297@turing.cs.hmc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 10:06:05.0176 (UTC) FILETIME=[D61B3F80:01C57648] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Correct step for setting up MBR on a windows drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:05:25 -0000 Mac Mason wrote: >I've got a machine with FreeBSD on it. Recently, I added another drive, >on which I put Windows. Given that I don't really trust the Windows >install program with my MBR, I unplugged the FreeBSD drive during the >install. > >Now, the FreeBSD bootloader can't load windows; if I unplug the FreeBSD >drive again, windows boots up happily, but I don't much like the idea of >un-plugging and re-plugging drives to make things work. > > You need to write the FreeBSD loader onto your windows disk. I posted instructions about how to do that yesterday. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 10:05:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A9916A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:05:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cknipe@hybyte.com) Received: from mail.uk.hybyte.net (mail.uk.hybyte.net [213.86.56.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455DD43D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:05:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cknipe@hybyte.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.uk.hybyte.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5A9EB2E1 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:02:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from by localhost (amavisd-new, port ) id cYWdKtPV for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:02:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from MEGADROID (wbs-146-184-170.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.184.170]) by mail.uk.hybyte.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861C5EB2A6; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:02:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <017601c57648$ba663330$0b02a8c0@MEGADROID> From: "Chris Knipe" To: "Alex Zbyslaw" References: <000601c57642$edfce460$1e01a8c0@pc2xp> <42B7E5B3.3080706@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:11 +0200 Organization: HyByte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hybyte.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT Shell Script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:05:25 -0000 Call me stupid, I wasn't aware that [ is a command... ;) Thanks, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Zbyslaw" To: "Chris Knipe" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: OT Shell Script > Chris Knipe wrote: > >>May be a bit off topic, but I don't know any sh scripting lists that I'm >>subscribed to... :) >> >>If I run the script from shell / console, it runs without a problem.... >>Running it via cron, I get: [: 6: unexpected operator >> >>The script: >>#!/bin/sh >>HOSTNAME=`/usr/bin/uname -n` >>SIZE=`/usr/bin/du /var/log/MYAPP/|/usr/bin/cut -c 1-7` >>ROTATE="1024000" >>if [ -e /tmp/.rotate ]; then >> > Maybe your path doesn't have [ in it. Try > > if /bin/[ -e /tmp/.rotate ]; then > > or > > if /bin/test -e /tmp/.rotate; then > > Same for all your other [ tests. > > Or just make sure that /bin is in your path at the top of the script. > It's often a good idea to set path explicitly for scripts, in case someone > who runs it has something weird in their path, like their own [ or test or > whatever. I notice the rest of the commands all have absolute pathnames > avoiding the path issue, but I like setting the path anyway as it's really > easy to forget to use absolute pathnames since we are so used to the shell > finding things for us at the command line. > > --Alex > > > --Alex > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 10:13:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9206916A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:13:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@sixbellsmedia.com) Received: from lws5.mcgoohq.com.au (lws5.mcgoohq.com.au [150.101.195.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A16B43D62 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:13:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@sixbellsmedia.com) Received: from dip-220-235-36-90.wa.westnet.com.au ([220.235.36.90] helo=GNOME) by lws5.mcgoohq.com.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Dkfl0-0003Ea-K5 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:13:27 +1000 Message-ID: <000601c57649$daa14760$5a24ebdc@GNOME> From: "John Anderson" To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:13:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lws5.mcgoohq.com.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sixbellsmedia.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Firewall with USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:13:33 -0000 Hi there folks, Having just moved into the country I am forced to use satellite for a = broadband connection. Due to telsra having a monopoly on this, I need to = have 2 USB connections, one for satellite download, one for ISDN upload. = So my router doesn't fit. Does anyone know if the freebsd firewall will support two USB WAN = connections to a normal LAN internal network? John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 10:19:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E76616A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:19:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16AD43D5C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:20:18 +0100 Message-ID: <42B7E9B8.2080905@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:19:36 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Knipe References: <000601c57642$edfce460$1e01a8c0@pc2xp> <42B7E5B3.3080706@dial.pipex.com> <017601c57648$ba663330$0b02a8c0@MEGADROID> In-Reply-To: <017601c57648$ba663330$0b02a8c0@MEGADROID> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 10:20:18.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[D29F9B60:01C5764A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT Shell Script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:19:39 -0000 Chris Knipe wrote: > Call me stupid, I wasn't aware that [ is a command... ;) Not knowing is ignorance and all of us are ignorant about plenty of stuff. Deliberately staying ignorant is stupid, and asking questions and being interested by the answers is the opposite of that. Of course, I probably learnt this when ls -lsR / only ran to thirty of forty pages of line printer output :-) --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 10:34:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D2B16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:34:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin-k@softmaker.de) Received: from softmaker.net (softmaker.net [213.239.204.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E95C43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:34:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin-k@softmaker.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by softmaker.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85FC20386 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:33:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from unknown by localhost (amavisd-new, unix socket) id client-XXRZwqeD for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:33:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from softmaker.de (unknown [62.138.31.133]) by softmaker.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0EA20372 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:33:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mk (unknown [192.168.168.30]) by softmaker.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B40F6F932; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:27:18 +0000 (UTC) From: "SoftMaker Software GmbH" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:32:20 +0200 X-Priority: 3 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Message-Id: <107AFB70.1F952D35@softmaker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at Hetzner Subject: Press Release: TextMaker and PlanMaker at Half Price X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:34:16 -0000 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Press Release for: The FreeBSD Diary ATTN: Dan Langille Please reply to notify us of change of address or to be removed from our press list. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 11:42:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A4D16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listmail@Bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E2743D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:42:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listmail@Bomgardner.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (morningstar [192.168.0.2]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8D721D8EE for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42B7FD20.2000406@Bomgardner.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:42:24 -0500 From: Gene User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Anyone using doormand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:42:43 -0000 Has anyone implemented the doorman port knocking package? I tried to get it going on 5.4, but when I start doormand, I can find no evidence of it listening to it's default port (1001). I've checked the config (see below) but all seems correct. I can find no mention of doormand or port 1001 in the output of netstat or sockstat. Knocks have no discernible effect, telnet connections are refused, and there is nothing in the doorman's log file. Any ideas? Thanks Gene The doormand.cf file: # # 'doormand.cf' # # interface rl1 port 1001 waitfor 10 connection_delay_1 100000 # 1/10th second (delay is in microseconds) connection_delay_2 2 logfile /var/log/doorman-messages loglevel debug pidfile /var/run/doormand.pid guestlist /usr/local/etc/doormand/guestlist firewall-add /usr/local/etc/doormand/ipf_add firewall-del /usr/local/etc/doormand/ipf_delete tag-queue-length 100000 tag-queue /var/doorman_tag_queue tag-db /var/doorman_tag_db.db From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 11:48:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10C16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:48:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F2043D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:48:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1167112wra for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:48:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c4Vy47BvFk5zXCdIIxamnAreMKLHYIffvZLSbYO0N7Nu3S434nCYDE3VchT/wzTqz1SFkljIe6a1ifs5YAZAxbfe/KddnzsaqrwLM27SGskflwBM84ccxcuSeCnxssLH4UQC9Img5MP7me88EzRa7YRTejeYdPtrWd+IrfInnfA= Received: by 10.54.23.3 with SMTP id 3mr3292972wrw; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.16 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:48:42 +0300 From: Abu Khaled To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <42B6E996.10501@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050620131127.86822.qmail@web32011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42B6E996.10501@dial.pipex.com> Cc: Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob , Alistair Sutton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:48:43 -0000 On 6/20/05, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Alistair Sutton wrote: >=20 > >On 20/06/05, Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob wrote: > > > > > > > >> parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile" > >> > >> connecting to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org > >> > >> cannot connect to cvsup.uk.freebsd.org: connection refused > >> > >> will retry at 23:15:30 > >> > >> > > > >I don't think that particular server is functioning anymore. It used > >to take you to a web page when viewed in a browser but it now directs > >you straight to a plig.org mirror. > > > >I suggest you read the handbook and find a different mirror. I used to > >use the cvsup.ie.freebsd.org one which was quite reliable. > > > # cvsup -g Supfile-ports > Connected to cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org > Updating collection ports-all/cvs > Edit ports/archivers/p5-Compress-Zlib/Makefile > Edit ports/archivers/p5-Compress-Zlib/distinfo > [...] >=20 >=20 > Sometimes I find the server unavailable, but rarely. >=20 > Muhammad, please try the server again, and also try another one > somewhere else. If you still have problems then it may be that there is > a firewall of some kind between you the the cvsup server. >=20 I use the uk cvsup server and it works fine. The message you recieve means that there is a firewall blocking your connection. Check your firewall and enable outgoing traffic to port 5999. --=20 Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 12:28:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04A116A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lawrence.petrykanyn@sympatico.ca) Received: from tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts10.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C6743D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lawrence.petrykanyn@sympatico.ca) Received: from elmo ([65.95.43.233]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with SMTP id <20050621122814.YXMG26102.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@elmo> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:28:14 -0400 From: "Lawrence Petrykanyn" To: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:56 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Newbie - Trouble installing OpenOffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:28:19 -0000 Hi! I'm having a devil of a time trying to install the OpenOffice suite. I'm running FReeBSD 5.3 on a dual boot with Win98SE on a PC with a Sempron processor and 512MB of RAM with a 40GB hard drive for BSD and 10GB for Windows. First, I tried to install OpenOffice using the ports collection. The first attempt proceeded successfully for quite a while, but then failed because it was unable to fetch certain files (no file found, access denied), then subsequent attempts failed because it said that a lower version was already installed. So I did a pkg_delete which did not work because: "pkg_delete couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?)". So I looked in /var/db/pkg but didn't see an OpenOffice folder. Knowing when to quit, I decided to install the package so I downloaded OOo_1.1.3_FreeBSD410Intel410_install.tgz and did pkg_add -r openoffice. The attempt failed but I did manage to copy the output. It was over ten-thousand lines long, so I just excerpted it: sympatico# pkg_add -r openoffice Fetching, etc... /var: write failed, filesystem is full OpenOffice.org1.1.2/share/cde/types/it.UTF-8/vnd.sun.xml.draw.dt: Can't open OpenOffice.org1.1.2/share/cde/types/it.UTF-8/vnd.sun.xml.draw.dt': No such file or directory /var: write failed, filesystem is full OpenOffice.org1.1.2/share/cde/types/it.UTF-8/vnd.sun.xml.impress.dt: Can't open OpenOffice.org1.1.2/share/cde/types/it.UTF-8/vnd.sun.xml.impress.dt': No such file or directory . . . /var: write failed, filesystem is full OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core: Can't restore symlink to 'python-core-2.2.2': No space left on device /var: write failed, filesystem is full /var: write failed, filesystem is full OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/spadmin: Can't restore symlink to 'soffice': No space left on device Done. tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libxmx645fi.so: Could not stat: No such file or directory tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libxo645fi.so: Could not stat: No such file or directory tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libxsltdlg645fi.so: Could not stat: No such file or directory tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libxsltfilter645fi.so: Could not stat: No such file or directory . . . tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/linecache.py: Could not stat: No such file or directory tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/locale.py: Could not stat: No such file or directory tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/macpath.py: Could not stat: No such file or directory . . . tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/test/test_weakref.py: Could not stat: No such file or directory tar: OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/test/test_winreg.py: Could not stat: No such file or directory tar: Error opening archive: Empty input file: Inappropriate file type or format pkg_add: extract_plist: can not invoke 31768 byte tar pipeline: /usr/bin/tar cf - OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/lib-dynload/bsddb.so OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/lib-dynload/cPickle.so OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/lib-dynload/cStringIO.so . . . OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/lib-dynload/math.so OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/lib-dynload/md5.so OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/lib-dynload/mmap.so OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/test/test\ _userstring.py OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/test/test\_uu.py OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/test/test\_wave.py OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/test/test\_weakref.py OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core-2.2.2/lib/test/test\_winreg.py|/usr/ bin/tar --unlink -xpf - -C /usr/local When I saw the "filesystem is full" message, I did a df: sympatico# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad1s1a 253678 119824 113560 51% /devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad1s1e 253678 16 233368 0% /tmp /dev/ad1s1f 36221772 3195004 30129028 10% /usr /dev/ad1s1d 253678 159700 73684 68% /var /dev/ad0s1 9950544 7666112 2284432 77% /mnt As I mentioned above, I have a 40GB hard drive, so I am confused about how I have run out of room as I have just installed FreeBSD about a month ago. Could work files left over from the multiple failed installation attempts be to blame? Any advice, suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated. Make it a great day, Lawrence From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 12:41:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F15C16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF5143D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5LCfG3s022700 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:41:16 -0800 Message-Id: <20050621124116.M10597@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 67.164.14.6 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: apache Logging output changed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:41:19 -0000 apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 FreeBSD-4.11R3 This is really important for us to fix so I am asking again. so I upgraded apache 1.3.33 from /usr/ports some about a month ago and around that time I stopped seeing POST log messages for my perl scripts ending up in my server's access logs. any clues why this is no longer being logged. is there some log granualrity configuration that is no longer default? these "POST" messages stopped being logged around the time I upgraded. --- snip --- 647.818.543.973 - - [14/Apr/2005:12:10:00 -0700] "POST /Fakename.pl HTTP/1.1" 405 323 "http://www.fakedomainname.com/html/order.test.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0" 678.9188.843.973 - - [14/Apr/2005:14:02:10 -0700] "POST /Fakename.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 1974 "http://www.fakedomainname.com.com/html/order.test.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0" --- snip --- clues please? cheers, Noha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 12:59:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6F916A41C; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:59:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f1.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E720E43D49; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:59:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:59:38 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 200.108.17.200 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:59:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.108.17.200] X-Originating-Email: [stephanweaver@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stephanweaver@hotmail.com From: "Stephan Weaver" To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:59:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 12:59:38.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[15270070:01C57661] Cc: Subject: Connecting My ADSL MODEM To My FreeBSD Pc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:59:39 -0000 Hello Friendly FreeBSD people. Let me get straight to the point. I am implimenting a FreeBSD Based Firewall. I have an ADSL Speedtouch 5200 Modem/Router, Currently Plugged into my Switch. I want to connect the ADSL modem to my FreeBSD Firewall; So that the FreeBSD Firewall will be creating a PPP connection directly to my ISP. E.g., my vr0 interface will have a PUBLIC Internet Address (IF Possible?). My Isp Uses PPPoA, i used the instructions from the handbook; Using 'mpd'. I set the ADSL router in 'bridge' mode and connect the Ethernet cable from the Dsl Router/Modem to my FreeBSD Firewall. ON the Interface vr0. But i have little success getting the results i want. [The Firewall doesn't connect to my ISP] Anyone willing to give me a clue? --------------------------------------- Config stuff. rc.conf -- #FireWall Stuff #--------------- inetd_enable="NO" sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" check_quotas="NO" gateway_enable="YES" ipnat_enable="YES" ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" ipfilter_enable="YES" ipfilter_flags="" ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" ipmon_enable="YES" ipmon_flags="-Dsn" #vr0 Connects to DSL MODEM ifconfig_vr0="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" #------------------------- mpd.conf default: load adsl adsl: new -i ng0 adsl adsl set bundle authname USER****** set bundle password PASS***[changed] set bundle disable multilink set link no pap acfcomp protocomp set link disable chap set link accept chap set link keep-alive 30 10 set ipcp no vjcomp set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 set iface route default set iface disable on-demand set iface enable proxy-arp set iface idle 0 open ----------------- mpd.links -- adsl: set link type pptp set pptp mode active set pptp enable originate outcall set pptp self 192.168.0.1 set pptp peer 192.168.0.254 ---------------- 192.168.0.1 = vr0 interface [ firewall ] 192.168.0.254 = dsl modem/router. Empty /etc/ipnat.rules; empty /etc/ipf.rules ------------------ MPD.LOG --- Multi-link PPP for FreeBSD, by Archie L. Cobbs. Based on iij-ppp, by Toshiharu OHNO. mpd: pid 523, version 3.18 (root@pizzaboys.org 20:57 16-Jun-2005) [adsl] ppp node is "mpd523-adsl" set pptp mode: unknown command. Try "help". [adsl] using interface ng0 [adsl] IPCP: peer address cannot be zero [adsl] IFACE: Open event [adsl] IPCP: Open event [adsl] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting [adsl] IPCP: LayerStart [adsl:adsl] [adsl] bundle: OPEN event in state CLOSED [adsl] opening link "adsl"... [adsl] link: OPEN event [adsl] LCP: Open event [adsl] LCP: state change Initial --> Starting [adsl] LCP: LayerStart [adsl] device: OPEN event in state DOWN pptp0: connecting to 192.168.0.254:1723 [adsl] device is now in state OPENING pptp0: connection to 192.168.0.254:1723 failed pptp0: killing connection with 192.168.0.254:1723 pptp0-0: killing channel [adsl] PPTP call failed [adsl] device: DOWN event in state OPENING [adsl] device is now in state DOWN [adsl] link: DOWN event [adsl] LCP: Down event [adsl] device: OPEN event in state DOWN [adsl] pausing 7 seconds before open [adsl] device is now in state DOWN ----------------------------- pptp.log -=------=-=-=-=-= pizzaboys# 192.168.0.254 adsl anon warn[open_inetsock:pptp_callmgr.c:311]: connect: Connection refused anon fatal[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:123]: Could not open control connection to 192.168.0.254 ----- pptp / ppp.conf file pizzaboys# less /etc/ppp/ppp.conf adsl: set log phase chat lcp ipcp ccp tun command set timeout 0 enable dns set authname USER(***** set authkey PASSWD**** set ifaddr 0 0 add default HISADDR Regards, Stephan Weaver. stephanweaver@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:05:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8512E16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:05:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E7A43D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:05:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1245748wra for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:05:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pnWZcdow8ZQqwTW+TjLY76iOqHu8cPN7Wotga3/auoAxsIIFH/4RaBhiCdjmMp+HzlFxZdEM8ujVJQDttcFySYyNxlDmVQztSs0V1xavZfr1CaArbYTl5gA7sNPl4tTcqRvQlIcKkA5XVIO/yh8l188dSJb2/+gVubg0l8MGqCs= Received: by 10.54.73.15 with SMTP id v15mr3339102wra; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.16 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:05:30 +0300 From: Abu Khaled To: Noah In-Reply-To: <20050621124116.M10597@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050621124116.M10597@enabled.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache Logging output changed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:05:31 -0000 On 6/21/05, Noah wrote: > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > FreeBSD-4.11R3 >=20 > This is really important for us to fix so I am asking again. >=20 > so I upgraded apache 1.3.33 from /usr/ports some about a month ago and a= round > that time I stopped seeing POST log messages for my perl scripts ending u= p in > my server's access logs. any clues why this is no longer being logged. = is > there some log granualrity configuration that is no longer default? >=20 > these "POST" messages stopped being logged around the time I upgraded. >=20 > --- snip --- >=20 > 647.818.543.973 - - [14/Apr/2005:12:10:00 -0700] "POST /Fakename.pl HTTP/= 1.1" > 405 323 "http://www.fakedomainname.com/html/order.test.html" "Mozilla/5.0 > (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firef= ox/1.0" > 678.9188.843.973 - - [14/Apr/2005:14:02:10 -0700] "POST /Fakename.pl HTTP= /1.1" > 200 1974 "http://www.fakedomainname.com.com/html/order.test.html" "Mozill= a/5.0 > (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firef= ox/1.0" >=20 > --- snip --- >=20 >=20 > clues please? >=20 What did you configure for the directive LogFormat/CustomLog? --=20 Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 02:16:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0753516A41F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:16:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cvkhanh@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A669643D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:16:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cvkhanh@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so1181651rna for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:16:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pc3SjJUkI34ZcIx+ZX4EQfmsIzzK/RMEfq/tBN2FToxiB+p33cJdsfnjJRZ5uS30jGkAYfe/CC12GfeS6OMp+6M1lfo1m7RKkVIkZ928A9cNyAymL9Ws5UQAGBhysiUf/x0gvntJfqQT+kzr4evoGCmqvGSqrhgrP0qFBbpuhU0= Received: by 10.38.76.68 with SMTP id y68mr2214175rna; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.73.24 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5fd642fc050620191670837b21@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:30 +0700 From: Khanh Cao Van To: freebsd-stable-list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:16:23 +0000 Cc: Subject: howto update freebsd 4.7 release to 4.7 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Khanh Cao Van List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:16:31 -0000 My custom use freeBSD 4.7 release and ask me to install JDK1.4 on it . But when I use ports to compile JDK , the system show me a message : You must have a version of FreeBSD later than 4.7-STABLE February 2003 or 5-CURRENT February 2003 to compile and use JDK 1.4.2. So I have to update my 4.7 release to 4.7 stable . But I do not know how to do make it . I've looking everywhere but could not find any clear document about it . Please help me ! PS : I'm not going to upgrade my kernel 4.7 to 4.8 or anything else , just 4.7 only . Thank for reading ! --=20 ---------------------------------- Cao Van Khanh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:18:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E9316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:18:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) Received: from mail14.messagelabs.com (mail14.messagelabs.com [212.125.75.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 749CD43D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:18:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-14.messagelabs.com!1119359893!45351706!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.15; banners=dwp.gsi.gov.uk,-,- X-Originating-IP: [62.25.106.208] Received: (qmail 26359 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2005 13:18:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx22.hosting-w.gsi.gov.uk) (62.25.106.208) by server-13.tower-14.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2005 13:18:13 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:49:06 +0100 Message-Id: Thread-Topic: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... 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On=20leaving=20the=20GSi=20this=20email=20was=20certified=20virus-free From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:25:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C45016A41C; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:25:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from arginine.spc.org (arginine.spc.org [83.167.185.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A6543D4C; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:25:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5275B6520E; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 59252-03; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from empiric.dek.spc.org (host81-136-156-39.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.136.156.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6E4651F4; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:58 +0100 (BST) Received: by empiric.dek.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 63AE461F0; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:48 +0100 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Stephan Weaver Message-ID: <20050621132448.GD803@empiric.icir.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting My ADSL MODEM To My FreeBSD Pc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:25:05 -0000 On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:59:38AM -0400, Stephan Weaver wrote: > My Isp Uses PPPoA, i used the instructions from the handbook; > Using 'mpd'. > I set the ADSL router in 'bridge' mode and connect the Ethernet cable > from the Dsl Router/Modem to my FreeBSD Firewall. ON the Interface vr0. > But i have little success getting the results i want. [The Firewall doesn't > connect to my ISP] I don't think the SpeedTouch modems support bridging from PPPoA to Ethernet to the best of my knowledge -- I only know of one very specific model of D-Link ADSL modem which will do this (DSL-500G+ I think). You'll probably have more luck using a native ATM card hooked up to the ATM-25 passthrough port on the SpeedTouch and using userland PPP to get PPPoA encapsulation through to the BSD box. We don't support PPPoA in Netgraph [yet], I have a paper design for such a thing I haven't had any free time to implement. BMS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:30:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AF716A41F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DFE43D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (24-53-250-148.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.53.250.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7262869A22; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:30:27 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Francisco Reyes Message-Id: <20050621093027.24d339fa.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20050620225204.F41158@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <20050620141439.S36309@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620182430.GE8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620144631.F37558@zoraida.natserv.net> <20050620185545.GF8497@dan.emsphone.com> <20050620225204.F41158@zoraida.natserv.net> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, dnelson@allantgroup.com Subject: Re: When does swap decreases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:30:29 -0000 Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Dan Nelson wrote: > > When the system is low on memory, it will force the least used > > blocks of memory to swap. It will not free the swap space until > > the process owning them exits > > Have not found any program to see what programs are using the swap, but as > I think about it, the current method is not very "smart". I guess any > other method is difficult to implement. > > How wonder how the current method affects performance. > Basically if there is a surge of memory usage and processes start that use > the swap and these processes are long lived.. I wonder if performance > will be affected. The answer that was given to you on the usage of swap is greatly simplified. As a result, it's natural that you would ask these kinds of questions. In reality, FreeBSD's use of swap is _highly_ optimized. Even if you don't fully understand what it's doing ;) If you're interested in the nitty-gritty details, I suggest you purchase (or borrow) a copy of _The_Design_and_Implementation_of_FreeBSD_ and read the detailed descriptions of how the pager and swapper work. The complexity of those two systems, and the reasoning behind how they're designed is more than can easily be answered on an email list. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:31:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B67B16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:31:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD3343D58 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:31:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DkikU-0003oQ-8w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:25:06 +0200 Received: from blueice1n1.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.163]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:25:06 +0200 Received: from element by blueice1n1.de.ibm.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:25:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pavel Duda Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:30:08 +0200 Lines: 91 Message-ID: References: <200506201355.j5KDtLjP006948@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blueice1n1.de.ibm.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041103 Thunderbird/0.9 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <200506201355.j5KDtLjP006948@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Sender: news Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:31:37 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >>Alex Zbyslaw wrote: >> >>>Pavel Duda wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi, >>>>I have problem with my DDS-3 type drive. I'm able to write on it but >>>>not read data back. If I try to read them I get card dump and tape >>>>drive hangs up. I have tried to upgrade firmware but problem remains. >>>>Does somebody have experience with this ? > > > We have had a lot of experience with seeing similar problems, but little > with solving it. We have about 75 systems with mostly DDS-3 some are > DDS-4. All Are SCSI. All were on Dell Poweredge machines and are which > ever vendor OEM model they were installing at the moment - but we couldn't > seem to identify a clear difference from one model to the next. > > More than half seem to have been working fine for several years. > The rest have continual problems with symptoms similar to yours - > it appears to write OK, but the tape is unreadable. There appears to > be stuff on the tape but it is junk. I say this because skips and > rewinds take about the amount of time I would expect, but of course > that is not a definitive test. Also, sometimes I can cat or dd a file > off the tape that is junk (eg the file is junk - not readable as anything. > But often I cannot get anything at all. Some got errors during the write. > > I think there are multiple problems with the DDS drives, some of which > may be their own hardware on internal control and some may be the > SCSI controller or the drivers, but I have never been able to pin > anything down and after asking several questions on the lists over > several years, have had no response other than some people agreeing > and some stabs with additional questions to answer that all went nowhere. > > In a couple of cases, getting the drive replaced seemed to fix the > problem. I believe the ones that warranty replacement helped were the > ones that failed during write. In others I don't think rplacement helped. > Some sites have upgraded to DLT. > > I know none of this helps much toward solving the problem, but I post > this response for moral support and in hopes of jogging someone who > might know more about these things. > > ////jerry > > > >>>>My specs : >>>>FreeBSD 5.2.1, generic kernel, x86 (P3), SCSI card is Adaptec AHA2940 >>>>and tape drive Python 04106. >>> >>>Not terribly helpful, but I have a DAT2 working with an Adaptec 2940A. >>>It's worked since forever and is fine with 5.4 though I never ran >>>5.1/2/3. Is the machine it's attached to dual-boot? I.e. can you test >>>the tape drive in Windows, or Linux for example? (Well, they have to be >>>good for something :-)) Is this a recent problem or is this the first >>>time you've tried using this drive? Can you try another SCSI adapter? >>>I've run mine (for testing only) off the cheapest rubbish I got free >>>with a SCSI CDRW and it was fine. >> >>I was trying to use Tekram SCSI adapter with same result. I have taken >>this DDS tape from my AIX machine (netfinity) where it was working wo >>problems. >> >> >>>The only other guess would be termination. Has anything else on your >>>SCSI chain changed? Is the terminator properly plugged in? >> >>Termination should be fine. I have tried both variants - termination on >>tape and termination via active terminator on cable. >> >> >>>--Alex >>> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I've just switched tape drive for a DDS-4 and this one works fine. Funny is that DDS3 drive works wo problems on my workstation with Windows and same (well same type not exactly same) SCSI adapter. I have also found some information that there could be problem with SCSI commands queueing, but no solution for that or what it causes. Anyway now I'm happy that DDS-4 in server works fine so I probably wont dig deeper to find out where is the problem.... Pavel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:34:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E19816A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:34:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A8243D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:34:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:35:00 +0100 Message-ID: <42B8175B.4070401@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:34:19 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gene References: <42B7FD20.2000406@Bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: <42B7FD20.2000406@Bomgardner.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 13:35:00.0654 (UTC) FILETIME=[05D564E0:01C57666] Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Anyone using doormand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:34:21 -0000 Gene wrote: > Has anyone implemented the doorman port knocking package? > > I tried to get it going on 5.4, but when I start doormand, I can find no > evidence of it listening to it's default port (1001). > I've checked the config (see below) but all seems correct. I can find > no mention > of doormand or port 1001 in the output of netstat or sockstat. Knocks > have no discernible effect, telnet connections are refused, and there > is nothing > in the doorman's log file. Are you sure it's actually running? Does it show up when you do ps -ax | egrep door or not? Does it have a debugging option? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:41:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5FC16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:41:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen.agar@bmhcc.org) Received: from [167.251.2.2] (fw2.bmhcc.org [167.251.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EEE43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:41:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen.agar@bmhcc.org) Received: from no.name.available by [167.251.2.2] via smtpd (for mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) with ESMTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:34:28 -0500 Received: from ([167.251.104.102]) by etcciron1.bmhcc.org with ESMTP id 4028849.22381104; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:41:22 -0500 Received: from mtccexchg04.ad.bmhcc.org ([167.251.104.29]) by ETCCEXCOWA1.ad.bmhcc.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:41:22 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:41:21 -0500 Message-ID: <769E8CE8D1A0BF438B62C3DB10C60B9F01ED2588@mtccexchg04.ad.bmhcc.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: test Thread-Index: AcV2ZukTHmjtSj9ARDiQstkqlCYpbw== From: "Stephen Agar" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 13:41:22.0387 (UTC) FILETIME=[E95D3A30:01C57666] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:41:50 -0000 This is a test=2E=0D=0A=0D=0A---=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D---=0D=0AStephen Agar=0D=0ANetworking - Information Syste= ms=0D=0ABaptist Memorial Health Care Corporation=0D=0APhone: (901) 227-3445= =0D=0AE-Mail: Stephen=2EAgar@bmhcc=2Eorg=0D=0A=0D=0A** Opinions expressed a= bove are not necessarily those of BMHCC ** =0D=0A=0D=0A--------------------= ---------------------=0D=0AThis message and any files transmitted with it m= ay contain legally=0D=0Aprivileged, confidential, or proprietary informatio= n=2E If you are not the=0D=0Aintended recipient of this message, you are n= ot permitted to use, copy, or=0D=0Aforward it, in whole or in part without = the express consent of the sender=2E=0D=0APlease notify the sender of the e= rror by reply email, disregard the=0D=0Aforegoing messages, and delete it i= mmediately=2E=0D=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:49:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982F116A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:49:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org) Received: from thingysrealm.myftp.org (81-86-86-238.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.86.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBABF43D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org) Received: (qmail 17066 invoked by uid 1011); 21 Jun 2005 13:49:16 -0000 Received: from 10.0.0.6 by rackmount.orbsrealm.com (envelope-from , uid 1010) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/781. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:52:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73E216A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:52:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B3443D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:52:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:53:22 +0100 Message-ID: <42B81BA8.3070000@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:52:40 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel Duda References: <200506201355.j5KDtLjP006948@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 13:53:22.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[96A884F0:01C57668] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:52:43 -0000 Pavel Duda wrote: > I've just switched tape drive for a DDS-4 and this one works fine. > Funny is that DDS3 drive works wo problems on my workstation with > Windows and same (well same type not exactly same) SCSI adapter. I > have also found some information that there could be problem with SCSI > commands queueing, but no solution for that or what it causes. Anyway > now I'm happy that DDS-4 in server works fine so I probably wont dig > deeper to find out where is the problem.... Don't blame you :-) I guess I'll just count myself lucky that my DDS-2 works fine (modulo heads wearing out). Windows drivers could easily be doing something clever to compensate for some known (to Microsoft at least) problem with the specific tape drive. Being Windows it wouldn't bother to tell you. Glad you got something working in the end. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:54:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A3716A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D9B43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:54:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so1396065rna for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:54:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=lMQvbfGlPWH+RKoyvw18vcQmPi6CvbjQ2unGl0mAyfUFwr/vf+/sHAbGwNy1hhTOSg9NHMZINBseHqFtV3Fj8Y4629iYLiNdAk3l3PDREO34+tefux875o76QExfeK2OOQrvfWdKykC+vmAPF3ekPNPIQXM2bUBEg3XqHfwjY80= Received: by 10.38.207.69 with SMTP id e69mr2445967rng; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.161.143? ([59.93.161.143]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k21sm731160rnb.2005.06.21.06.54.39; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42B81BF6.3050506@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:23:58 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lawrence Petrykanyn References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010607050900070806050600" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie - Trouble installing OpenOffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:54:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010607050900070806050600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 6/21/2005 5:58, Lawrence Petrykanyn wrote: >Hi! > > Hello :-), > First, I tried to install OpenOffice using the ports collection. >The first attempt proceeded successfully for quite a while, but then failed >because it was unable to fetch certain files (no file found, access denied), >then subsequent attempts failed because it said that a lower version was >already installed. > Before trying a second time, did you clean up the installation folders using 'make clean'? >So I did a pkg_delete which did not work because: >"pkg_delete couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is >incorrectly specified?)". > Didn't get you. What did you try to pkg_delete? >So I looked in /var/db/pkg but didn't see an >OpenOffice folder. > > Entirely expected. OpenOffice installation was not registered as it was never completed. > Knowing when to quit, I decided to install the package so I >downloaded OOo_1.1.3_FreeBSD410Intel410_install.tgz and did pkg_add -r >openoffice. > It is always a good idea to use prebuilt binaries compared to home made ones for two reasons. First of all if you dont have a very powerful system, it would be a hard time compiling something like KDE or OpenOffice which can very well take days before it finishes off. Secondly, it saves lot of bandwidth. That matters if you are not very rich and bandwidth is costly like it is for me. But the pros of using home made binaries are, you can use optimizations and make the binary hardware specific. This would give a BIG performance gain. Secondly there are a few features which needs to be enabled at compile time. In most of the cases this calls for using the ports. > The attempt failed but I did manage to copy the output. It was >over ten-thousand lines long, so I just excerpted it: > > >sympatico# pkg_add -r openoffice >Fetching, etc... > >/var: write failed, filesystem is full >OpenOffice.org1.1.2/share/cde/types/it.UTF-8/vnd.sun.xml.draw.dt: Can't open >OpenOffice.org1.1.2/share/cde/types/it.UTF-8/vnd.sun.xml.draw.dt': No such >file or directory >/var: write failed, filesystem is full >OpenOffice.org1.1.2/share/cde/types/it.UTF-8/vnd.sun.xml.impress.dt: Can't >open OpenOffice.org1.1.2/share/cde/types/it.UTF-8/vnd.sun.xml.impress.dt': >No such file or directory >. >. >. >/var: write failed, filesystem is full >OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/python-core: Can't restore symlink to >'python-core-2.2.2': No space left on device >/var: write failed, filesystem is full >/var: write failed, filesystem is full > Did you have softupdates enabled on your system? Soft updates sometimes defer the release of file descriptors. And if you start using file descriptors too fast then you may run out of available descriptors thus getting this error in spite of the face that there is space on the platters. > When I saw the "filesystem is full" message, I did a df: > >sympatico# df >Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >/dev/ad1s1a 253678 119824 113560 51% >/devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev >/dev/ad1s1e 253678 16 233368 0% /tmp >/dev/ad1s1f 36221772 3195004 30129028 10% /usr >/dev/ad1s1d 253678 159700 73684 68% /var >/dev/ad0s1 9950544 7666112 2284432 77% /mnt > > It really looks to me as if the soft updates is the culprit. May we have a look at 'mount' without the 's? Thanks S. --------------010607050900070806050600-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 14:03:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8B616A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:03:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEABC43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:03:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix, from userid 106) id AF59F3D79CF; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:04:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.174.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B933D7996 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:04:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B81E31.2050708@celeritystorm.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:03:29 +0100 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050619113849.3ae5cbad.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20050619165543.084b2b70@cobalt.antimatter.net> In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20050619165543.084b2b70@cobalt.antimatter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Detailed logging of ssh sessions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:03:35 -0000 Try the termlog port, do some minor source changes so it doesn't spam the system logs. I use it to monitor shell server users, and works wonders. Even have a shell script that creates directories according to the current date, checks for "operation not permitted" and "permission denied", mails the results to me, and archives the logs in the folder (ie 21-06-2005). The only problem with this is a cat /dev/urandom can fill a partition up, because all output is logged :) I keep these logs in a separate partition. Glenn Dawson wrote: > At 08:38 AM 6/19/2005, Bill Moran wrote: > >> I've been researching this, and so far haven't found a way to do what I >> want to do. >> >> I have servers here and there, that should only be accessible by a >> limited >> number of administrators via ssh (i.e. mail and web servers, firewalls). >> >> As an added security measure, I'd like to start logging everything that >> happens during any ssh login (since all our work on these machines is >> via ssh). I understand, and frequently use script(1), but I want this >> to be required. I have two goals: >> 1) If someone manages to guess a password and break in, I want a log >> of what they're doing. >> 2) I want 100% guarantee that everything we do is recorded, to make >> future debugging of configuration mistakes easier. >> >> I've been researching sshd, and it doesn't seem as if it has this >> capability. Web searches have not yet turned up anything ... I'm >> guessing >> I'm not searching for the right phrases, since I can't believe I'm the >> only one doing this. >> >> Any advice or pointers are welcome. > > > This looks like it might do the trick for you: > http://honeypots.sourceforge.net/modified_script.html > > -Glenn > > >> -- >> Bill Moran >> Potential Technologies >> http://www.potentialtech.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 14:09:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6532F16A41F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2677443D62 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix, from userid 106) id ECAA23D79D5; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:10:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.174.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1293D79D3 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:10:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B81F9B.50608@celeritystorm.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:09:31 +0100 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1119335564.80965.39.camel@homey.my.domain> In-Reply-To: <1119335564.80965.39.camel@homey.my.domain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Unable to decipher error "ELF binary type 3 not known" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:09:34 -0000 Have you installed linux_base-8 ? kernel module (linux.ko) loaded ? Bob Perry wrote: >Cvsup'd system last weekend but was unable to complete portupgrade due >to following error: > ELF binary type "3" not known > execution of expat-1.95.5_2 script failed, exit status 255 > ELF binary type "3" not known > /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. > *** Error code 1 > >The error apears while system is upgrading linux-expat-1.95.5_2 to >linux-expat-1.95.5_3. The error continues: > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. > ** Command failed [exitcode 1]: /usr/bin/script > -qa /tmp/portupgrade80885.59 make reinstall > egrep: /var/db/pkg/linux-expat-1.95.5_2/+CONTENTS: No such file > or directory > ---> Restoring the old version > ** Fix the installation problem and try again. > >Tried to deinstall/reinstall linux-expat-1.95.5_3 but received same >error. When I ran portupgrade -arR again, I received a Stale dependency >error recommending I manually run pkgdb -F to fix, or specify -O to >force. I run pkgdb -F and each package which had been skipped earlier >in the upgrade due to the original error now appear in Stale dependency >scripts asking if I want to replace linux-expat-1.95.5_2. The "score" >in the first stale dependency issue is only 31%. Nothing confuses me >more than dealing with stale dependencies so I tried reviewing mail >archives and googling for an answer. > >Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can resolve this error? > >FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0. > >Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 14:09:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1813116A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:09:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EAE43D5E for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:09:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j5LE9gJF010385; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j5LE9fvW010384; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200506211409.j5LE9fvW010384@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: xfb52@dial.pipex.com (Alex Zbyslaw) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:09:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42B81BA8.3070000@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pavel Duda , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:09:51 -0000 > > Pavel Duda wrote: > > > I've just switched tape drive for a DDS-4 and this one works fine. > > Funny is that DDS3 drive works wo problems on my workstation with > > Windows and same (well same type not exactly same) SCSI adapter. I > > have also found some information that there could be problem with SCSI > > commands queueing, but no solution for that or what it causes. Anyway > > now I'm happy that DDS-4 in server works fine so I probably wont dig > > deeper to find out where is the problem.... > > Don't blame you :-) I guess I'll just count myself lucky that my DDS-2 > works fine (modulo heads wearing out). > > Windows drivers could easily be doing something clever to compensate for > some known (to Microsoft at least) problem with the specific tape > drive. Being Windows it wouldn't bother to tell you. That is probably true. I just wish someone could find out what that[those] trick[s] is[are] and apply them in FreeBSD - someone who knows more about SCSI tape drivers than I. ////jerry > > Glad you got something working in the end. > > --Alex > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 14:12:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4C316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FB943D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:12:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix, from userid 106) id 9EC393D79B1; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:13:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.174.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384A13D7977 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:13:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B82047.1010702@celeritystorm.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:12:23 +0100 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dump with -L flag - machine truely unresponsive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:12:26 -0000 I have never used -L, but according to the manpage, it takes a live snapshot. It would make sense to suspend the partitions (as your logs show) in order to ensure the integrity of the data. Hence, you cannot do any other operations while this is in progress. I could be wrong, just following intuition here. Freminlins wrote: >I have a FreeBSD 5.4 machine with a SCSI hard drive. I dump all our >machines onto a nfs-mounted filer. There are some files which it's >important not to clobber during the dump, so I've been experimenting >with dump using the -L flag like so: dump auLf /var /mnt/dump/var > >What I have noticed is that during the time that the machine is taking >its snapshot, it becomes completely unreachable on the net. It is >impossible to ssh or even ping it. Our monitoring reports that the >machine has dropped off the net, but once the snapshot is finished it >is available again. The machine itself does not drop, it just appears >to drop. > >Has anyone seen this before? I certainly haven't. And if so, does >anyone have a fix (apart from going back to dump without -L)? > >For info the partitions are suspended during the snapshot for these >amounts of time: >Jun 21 03:00:08 gia kernel: /: suspended 7.003 sec, redo 0 of 4 >Jun 21 03:08:41 gia kernel: /var: suspended 57.036 sec, redo 25 of 2775 >Jun 21 03:22:19 gia kernel: /home: suspended 1.037 sec, redo 0 of 4 >Jun 21 03:23:56 gia kernel: /usr: suspended 40.246 sec, redo 0 of 14 > > >Thanks, >Frem. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 14:13:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C659516A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:13:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpeg@thilelli.net) Received: from smtp.thilelli.net (smtp.thilelli.net [213.41.129.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A16B43D58 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpeg@thilelli.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bento.thilelli.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357797305B; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:13:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bento.thilelli.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bento.thilelli.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 43333-04-8; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.thilelli.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bento.thilelli.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646377303E; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 145.248.192.30 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jgabel) by webmail.thilelli.net with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <28717.145.248.192.30.1119363225.squirrel@webmail.thilelli.net> In-Reply-To: <42B81F9B.50608@celeritystorm.com> References: <1119335564.80965.39.camel@homey.my.domain> <42B81F9B.50608@celeritystorm.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:13:45 +0200 (CEST) From: "Julien Gabel" To: user@celeritystorm.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at thilelli.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to decipher error "ELF binary type 3 not known" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jpeg@thilelli.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:13:54 -0000 >> Cvsup'd system last weekend but was unable to complete portupgrade due >> to following error: >> ELF binary type "3" not known >> execution of expat-1.95.5_2 script failed, exit status 255 >> ELF binary type "3" not known >> /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected >> *** Error code 2 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> The error apears while system is upgrading linux-expat-1.95.5_2 to >> linux-expat-1.95.5_3. The error continues: >> Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. >> ** Command failed [exitcode 1]: /usr/bin/script >> -qa /tmp/portupgrade80885.59 make reinstall >> egrep: /var/db/pkg/linux-expat-1.95.5_2/+CONTENTS: No such file >> or directory >> ---> Restoring the old version >> ** Fix the installation problem and try again. >> >> Tried to deinstall/reinstall linux-expat-1.95.5_3 but received same >> error. When I ran portupgrade -arR again, I received a Stale dependency >> error recommending I manually run pkgdb -F to fix, or specify -O to >> force. I run pkgdb -F and each package which had been skipped earlier >> in the upgrade due to the original error now appear in Stale dependency >> scripts asking if I want to replace linux-expat-1.95.5_2. The "score" >> in the first stale dependency issue is only 31%. Nothing confuses me >> more than dealing with stale dependencies so I tried reviewing mail >> archives and googling for an answer. >> >> Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can resolve this error? >> >> FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0. > Have you installed linux_base-8 ? kernel module (linux.ko) loaded ? Forcing the reinstall of linux_base must solve this problem: # portupgrade -f linux_base -- -jpeg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 15:14:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012A516A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:14:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE7943D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:14:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77FF13C492 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:14:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:14:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 50388 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Jun 2005 17:14:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2005 17:14:25 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:14:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Subhro In-Reply-To: <42B81BF6.3050506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050621171013.H49781@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <42B81BF6.3050506@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: Lawrence Petrykanyn , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie - Trouble installing OpenOffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:14:31 -0000 * Subhro [2005-06-21 19:23 +0530] > > sympatico# df > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/ad1s1a 253678 119824 113560 51% > > /devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev > > /dev/ad1s1e 253678 16 233368 0% /tmp > > /dev/ad1s1f 36221772 3195004 30129028 10% /usr > > /dev/ad1s1d 253678 159700 73684 68% /var > > /dev/ad0s1 9950544 7666112 2284432 77% /mnt > > > It really looks to me as if the soft updates is the culprit. May we have a > look at 'mount' without the 's? I don't know how big openoffice is, but I believe that it might possibly use over the ~70M free on /var, especially if it's also fetching some dependencies. If it is impossible to free up more space in /var, you could either: (a) move /var/tmp to /usr/tmp and make /var/tmp a symlink (b) use the -t option og pkg_add to specify a different temp dir Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 15:30:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA4916A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0148543D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:30:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c511d8.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.17.216]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5LFShZa029194; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5LFTvGW097942; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:29:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5LFTu2n097940; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:29:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200506211529.j5LFTu2n097940@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: xfb52@dial.pipex.com (Alex Zbyslaw) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:29:56 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42B7553A.9070402@dial.pipex.com> from "Alex Zbyslaw" at Jun 21, 2005 12:46:02 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tuc at T-B-O-H , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:30:23 -0000 > > Yes. I have a 2 part process I run : > >[process elided] > > I guess I could re-run it and see if it continues. > I took the plunge and am now at 5.4-RELEASE-p2.... I upgraded my Nvidia driver too. So far I saw : Jun 21 01:24:17 himinbjorg kernel: pid 5693 (javac), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Jun 21 01:24:17 himinbjorg kernel: Jun 21 01:24:17 himinbjorg kernel: pid 5693 (javac), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Jun 21 01:25:28 himinbjorg kernel: pid 14996 (javac), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Jun 21 01:25:28 himinbjorg kernel: Jun 21 01:25:28 himinbjorg kernel: pid 14996 (javac), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Jun 21 01:25:29 himinbjorg kernel: pid 15016 (java), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Jun 21 01:25:29 himinbjorg kernel: Jun 21 01:25:29 himinbjorg kernel: pid 15016 (java), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Which I don't understand because I don't know what I was doing that needed java. I think it might have been part of upgrading the nvidia driver. > > If the problem is intermittent then I would suspect the hardware (I > know, everyone always says that, but I really have used a brand new > server which segfaulted randomly and it really was a memory problem). > Try building a memtest86 CD from the ports (from a different machine > perhaps) and running it for at least several hours, though it might not > take that long. Your BIOS might also support extended memory tests (try > disabling quick POST) though they are supposed to be less effective than > memtest86. > Ok, will try that. I run SETI so I think I'm constantly stressing the machine. But I'll give it a try. > > However, if this *is* a hardware problem then I would worry about that > first. The upgrade to 5.3-p15 (presumably from 5.3-p-something else) > could be pure coincidence. I mean, you have to be doing *something* > before getting a hardware fault! > Such is true.................. Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 15:47:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A055016A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:47:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net (astro.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB4343D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:47:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from SPECULUSHX1THE (81-178-187-76.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.187.76]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D14B1E000213 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:47:25 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <006201c57678$8919ce10$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> From: "cali" To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:47:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: matlab mex files on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:47:28 -0000 Has anyone managed to get matlab mex files compiling and running properly with matlab on FreeBSD? I am too stupid to work it out. I get this ELF file OS ABI invalid error when I try to run stuff compiled using mex I suppose the problem is that matlab is a Linux binary and matlab is running in Linux ABI mode, but the compiler is compiling to FreeBSD native, or something? Cali From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 15:49:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB00216A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322AC43D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:49:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:49:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948E9A6@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SSH Thread-Index: AcV2eNsmbQLviVPNT7G5K+tV1Rr6lw== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: Subject: SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:49:59 -0000 Hi everyone, I downloaded Putty to ssh into my freebsd box This is what I see on the screen SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 FreeBSD-20040419 And the minute I click enter the screen disappears,,, I checked and SSH daemon IS running, So what am I missing? I'm connecting from an XP box =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Jean-Paul Natola Network Administrator Information Technology Family Care International 588 Broadway Suite 503 New York, NY 10012 Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 Fax: 212-941-5563 Mailto: Jnatola@Familycareintl.org=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 15:56:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C3316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:56:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5051643D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:56:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437621CC3A; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:56:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from danger.dnv.dewnet.sk (dewnet [213.215.105.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55CB1CC29; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:55:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:53:33 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <145362400.20050621175333@rulez.sk> To: "Jean-Paul Natola" In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948E9A6@fci-ex.FCI> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948E9A6@fci-ex.FCI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.rulez.sk X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.022 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.423, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:56:01 -0000 Hello Jean-Paul, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 5:49:49 PM, you thoughtfully wrote the following: > Hi everyone, > I downloaded Putty to ssh into my freebsd box > This is what I see on the screen > SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 FreeBSD-20040419 are you sure, you're using ssh protocol, not telnet? I'm pretty sure that putty has set telnet by default. > And the minute I click enter the screen disappears,,, > I checked and SSH daemon IS running, > So what am I missing? > I'm connecting from an XP box -- Best Regards, DanGer, ICQ: 261701668 | e-mail protecting at: http://www.2pu.net/ http://danger.rulez.sk | proxy list at: http://www.proxy-web.com/ | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! [ Drive a liberal ballistic: Ask them a simple question ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 16:10:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2CF16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:10:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F1F43D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:10:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:09:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948E9AA@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SSH Thread-Index: AcV2ebk0mjJRr/9QQ8qAqXu4AiL6cQAAeWcQ From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Daniel Gerzo" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:10:07 -0000 Port 22 is it not? -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Gerzo [mailto:danger@rulez.sk]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:54 AM To: Jean-Paul Natola Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH Hello Jean-Paul, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 5:49:49 PM, you thoughtfully wrote the = following: > Hi everyone, > I downloaded Putty to ssh into my freebsd box > This is what I see on the screen > SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 FreeBSD-20040419 are you sure, you're using ssh protocol, not telnet? I'm pretty sure that putty has set telnet by default. > And the minute I click enter the screen disappears,,, > I checked and SSH daemon IS running, > So what am I missing? > I'm connecting from an XP box --=20 Best Regards, DanGer, ICQ: 261701668 | e-mail protecting at: http://www.2pu.net/ http://danger.rulez.sk | proxy list at: = http://www.proxy-web.com/ | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! [ Drive a liberal ballistic: Ask them a simple question ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 16:16:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8563A16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:16:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F7743D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:16:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so309nzp for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EZhajJN2zVbmnG7/mj8jZtvT9F//MiuFrhHuUFq5CagmxmOLg4ydP3nxH8XVIO9h3ORlqfD5UQkRp1K4VZaM67vWxnx4CDTATuEIdZi18fT7Tpl6MYy9dRi4XGWJcJY0j0GtdN7cx9riXzCBrDWj25KmU1I2R1uaA/DygxTe66E= Received: by 10.36.222.73 with SMTP id u73mr3439563nzg; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.19.5 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:16:11 -0400 From: Danny To: Jean-Paul Natola In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948E9A6@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948E9A6@fci-ex.FCI> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:16:12 -0000 On 6/21/05, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > I downloaded Putty to ssh into my freebsd box >=20 > This is what I see on the screen >=20 > SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 FreeBSD-20040419 >=20 > And the minute I click enter the screen disappears,,, >=20 > I checked and SSH daemon IS running, >=20 > So what am I missing? When you login directly from the console, you should review the error logs. Become familiar with all the files in /var/log. Run a 'tail -30 nameoflogfile' for example. In particular, for this issue, you will want to focus on /var/log/messages and /var/log/auth.log ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 16:33:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3195716A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:33:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1F643D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:33:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so1456818rna for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:33:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=qHSba2e5nWOl01uWNcAgj11gHM/52PgUyGii9RYdqk53dp0bSVXnBOx4BppzIX2ZuSVYUaVAEGWuUarNCovh+Jlijxj6EDJaamLM5nmV16Ef6kEc9DQlXf0+3v3E1R4+nv/RrRB+2LfquFueCrak3QB/E1ryAV6+zMM6ib5oxAg= Received: by 10.38.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr2494563rnm; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.161.143? ([59.93.161.143]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a67sm1533344rne.2005.06.21.09.33.50; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42B84146.8080307@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:03:10 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <42B81BF6.3050506@gmail.com> <20050621171013.H49781@maren.thelosingend.net> In-Reply-To: <20050621171013.H49781@maren.thelosingend.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090803040701020406030709" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Lawrence Petrykanyn Subject: Re: Newbie - Trouble installing OpenOffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:33:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090803040701020406030709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 6/21/2005 20:44, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >* Subhro [2005-06-21 19:23 +0530] > > >> > sympatico# df >> > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >> > /dev/ad1s1a 253678 119824 113560 51% >> > /devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev >> > /dev/ad1s1e 253678 16 233368 0% /tmp >> > /dev/ad1s1f 36221772 3195004 30129028 10% /usr >> > /dev/ad1s1d 253678 159700 73684 68% /var >> > /dev/ad0s1 9950544 7666112 2284432 77% /mnt >> > >> It really looks to me as if the soft updates is the culprit. May we have a >> look at 'mount' without the 's? >> >> > > >I don't know how big openoffice is > Its about 200M. Thanks S. --------------090803040701020406030709-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 16:49:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970A616A430 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:49:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Wesley.Groleau@parkview.com) Received: from SVR0138.parkview.com (svr0138.parkview.com [204.58.169.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7EE43D58 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:49:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Wesley.Groleau@parkview.com) Received: from Unknown [10.201.82.104] by SVR0138.parkview.com - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.7); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:49:40 -0500 Received: from DOM2-MTA by gw.parkview.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:49:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wesley Groleau" To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:48:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.3 X-SEF-2793D464-C31F-42F0-A952-3263CC5E74F9: 1 Cc: Subject: Using FreeBSD to examine/work on a Solaris disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:49:43 -0000 I have an i386 FreeBSD 5.4 I've stuck a disk from a Sun Ultra 10 on the ATA0 slave. If possible, I'd like to mount it to see what's what. (and tweak some /etc files so I can get into the Sun). Is there an fstype to mount the disk? Or even a way to see the partition table? All the ones I tried wouldn't work. FreeBSD does recognize there is a disk there. Of course, I can't be sure it's Solaris---previous owner might have been into Linux/BSD/whatever. -- Wes Groleau Wesley.Groleau@parkview.com EDI Technician Phone: 260-373-7787 Parkview Health System Fax: 260-373-7706 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 16:53:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEE016A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:53:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael@gargantuan.com) Received: from phoenix.gargantuan.com (srv01.lak.lwxdatacom.net [24.73.171.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B3843D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:53:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael@gargantuan.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.gargantuan.com [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin-injector (Postfix) with SMTP id A29121D4; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by phoenix.gargantuan.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0DAB3141; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:53:06 -0400 From: "Michael W. 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Cc: Daniel Gerzo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:53:14 -0000 --ey/N+yb7u/X9mFhi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [please don't top-post] On 2005-06-21T12:09:57-0400, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Daniel Gerzo [mailto:danger@rulez.sk]=20 >> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:54 AM >> To: Jean-Paul Natola >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: SSH >>=20 >> Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 5:49:49 PM, you thoughtfully wrote the following: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I downloaded Putty to ssh into my freebsd box >>> This is what I see on the screen >>> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 FreeBSD-20040419 >> >> are you sure, you're using ssh protocol, not telnet? I'm pretty sure >> that putty has set telnet by default. > > Port 22 is it not? Yes, it is port 22, but you also have to choose the 'SSH' protocol. If you use the telnet protocol, but connect to port 22, then you will see the 'SSH-blah-blah-blah' banner. If you use the SSH protocol then you will not see this banner. --=20 Mike Oliver [see complete headers for contact information] --ey/N+yb7u/X9mFhi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCuEXysWv7q8X6o8kRApVLAKDDmS7auB07eRQ9Vj5FCm7/Tq/jdwCfa8PN b0OIMpzFsYN7Q4OAmJna4tY= =kIb7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ey/N+yb7u/X9mFhi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 16:55:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8931316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:55:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2765143D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:55:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 90169 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2005 16:55:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 21 Jun 2005 16:55:19 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:57:02 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Message-ID: <20050621135702.4e7537b3@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: <7D730E14-8977-4B84-A272-72E77B187677@shire.net> References: <20050620121513.72790e30@phobos.mars.bsd> <7D730E14-8977-4B84-A272-72E77B187677@shire.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Generating Linux binaries under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:55:22 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:10 -0600 "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Alejandro Pulver wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Is there a way to compile a C program, but generating a Linux binary > > instead of a FreeBSD one? > > I don't know if this works but assuming you have the linux > compatibility layer running > > % chroot /compat/linux/ /bin/bash > % gcc > > That should use the linux gcc > > You may not need to do the chroot first. Just run a linux shell > > so > > % /compat/linux/bin/bash > bash-2.0x# gcc > > may also get you there > > I've done similar things before > > Try it out > Chad > Hello, Thank you for your reply. It is what I expected (to use the Linux emulation to run the compiler). But is there a FreeBSD port of it (I do not think that)? Can I use the Linux packaging tools (for example rpm with linux-base-rh*, and dpkg with linux-base-debian)? How? Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 16:55:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD1216A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:55:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2A343D5C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:56:33 +0100 Message-ID: <42B84697.10308@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:55:51 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <200506211409.j5LE9fvW010384@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506211409.j5LE9fvW010384@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 16:56:33.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D81BB30:01C57682] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:55:53 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >>Windows drivers could easily be doing something clever to compensate for >>some known (to Microsoft at least) problem with the specific tape >>drive. Being Windows it wouldn't bother to tell you. >> >> > >That is probably true. I just wish someone could find out what that[those] >trick[s] is[are] and apply them in FreeBSD - someone who knows more about >SCSI tape drivers than I. > > That's not me I'm afraid :-( Have you found any references to the kind of problems you've had for related OSes like Open/NetBSD or even Linux? If someone had fixed such a problem for another open source OS, then someone could examine the source code to see if there are any obvious tricks going on. I know, for example, that the drivers for one of my ethernet cards were patched to work better based at least in part on some Linux drivers. Alternatively, have you ever had the opportunity to test a tape drive which failed under FreeBSD under another BSD or Linux? Or on an alternate SCSI controller under FreeBSD? I would guess that the scsi or hackers lists might be better places to find people who might know, but you've probably tried them already. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 16:56:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA6616A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:56:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EA643D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:56:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5LH0WLq041924; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5LH0WAT041923; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:00:31 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "albi@scii.nl" Message-ID: <20050621170031.GA41870@thought.org> References: <20050619174509.GA32544@thought.org> <20050619191451.GB15438@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20050619212223.0b43b89f.albi@scii.nl> <20050619220516.GB34412@thought.org> <20050620005124.032ebcf8.albi@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620005124.032ebcf8.albi@scii.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: postfix, ubuntu+postfix and FBSD+sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:56:20 -0000 On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 12:51:24AM +0200, albi@scii.nl wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:05:16 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > from the posting it's not so clear to me that the poster is running > > > postfix on FreeBSD and/or ubuntu ? > > > > > > if the latter only, then i'd like to add that in ubuntu warty (not > > > sure about hoary), the postfix master.cf was by default configured > > > to accept only mail from localhost > > > > > > On my FBSD mailserver I run sendmail, on my ubuntu computer I'm > > running postfix. Can't make much sense of master.cf from a > > glance. Is there a way of accepting mail from any/all other > > servers? > > a google-search for "ubuntu postfix master.cf" found this : > > http://www.petersblog.org/node/839 > > ----------- begin quote -------- > The solution to this was to edit the /etc/postfix/master.cf file and > change the lines: > > 127.0.0.1:smtp inet n - - - - smtpd > ::1:smtp inet n - - - - smtpd > > to > > smtp inet n - - - - smtpd > > which tells it to listen to any connection to the smtp port, not just > local connections. > ------------ end quote ------- > > HTH > This was a major help, thanks:) In main.cf the name of my server was missing, and more. All in all getting Postfix to work was a couple-day job. I am learning how evolution works too, so a bunch of things to get working. (mutt worked out of the box, of course.) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 17:07:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8EB16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:07:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1316843D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: <42B84964.6070909@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:07:48 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc at T-B-O-H References: <200506211529.j5LFTu2n097940@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200506211529.j5LFTu2n097940@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 17:08:31.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9AA30D0:01C57683] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:07:54 -0000 Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: >>> Yes. I have a 2 part process I run : >>>[process elided] >>> I guess I could re-run it and see if it continues. >>> >>> > I took the plunge and am now at 5.4-RELEASE-p2.... I >upgraded my Nvidia driver too. > > So far I saw : > >Jun 21 01:24:17 himinbjorg kernel: pid 5693 (javac), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >Jun 21 01:24:17 himinbjorg kernel: Jun 21 01:24:17 himinbjorg kernel: pid 5693 (javac), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >Jun 21 01:25:28 himinbjorg kernel: pid 14996 (javac), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >Jun 21 01:25:28 himinbjorg kernel: Jun 21 01:25:28 himinbjorg kernel: pid 14996 (javac), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >Jun 21 01:25:29 himinbjorg kernel: pid 15016 (java), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >Jun 21 01:25:29 himinbjorg kernel: Jun 21 01:25:29 himinbjorg kernel: pid 15016 (java), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > > Which I don't understand because I don't know what I was doing that >needed java. I think it might have been part of upgrading the nvidia driver. > > I wouldn't have thought so. If I do: % cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver % make pretty-print-build-depends-list % make pretty-print-run-depends-list This port requires package(s) "gettext-0.14.5 libiconv-1.9.2_1 linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_3 linux-expat-1.95.5_3 linux-fontconfig-2.1_3 linux_base-8-8.0_6 popt-1.7 rpm-3.0.6_10" to run. There's no mention of java. I wouldn't say it definitively rules it out though. Are you sure that java wasn't left over from 4.X? One thing to try is: % pkg_info | egrep -i java javavmwrapper-2.0_4 Wrapper script for various Java Virtual Machines jdk-1.4.2p7_1 Java Development Kit 1.4.2 linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.08_2 Sun Java Development Kit 1.4 for Linux vnc-4.1.1 Display X and Win32 desktops on remote X/Win32/Java display % pkg_info -R jdk-1.4.2p7_1 Information for jdk-1.4.2p7_1: % pkg_info -R linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.08_2 Information for linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.08_2: Which shows that nothing on my system positively requires java (though mozilla et al. use it). I doubt it's a browser as javac is the compiler rather than the runtime environment (which has always seemed to crash at irregular intervals for me). >>If the problem is intermittent then I would suspect the hardware (I >>know, everyone always says that, but I really have used a brand new >>server which segfaulted randomly and it really was a memory problem). >>Try building a memtest86 CD from the ports (from a different machine >>perhaps) and running it for at least several hours, though it might not >>take that long. Your BIOS might also support extended memory tests (try >>disabling quick POST) though they are supposed to be less effective than >>memtest86. >> >> >> > Ok, will try that. I run SETI so I think I'm constantly stressing >the machine. But I'll give it a try. > *If* there are intermittent memory errors, then it could be that SETI always happens to get them in the data it is dealing with, in which case it might run perfectly happily but just produce the wrong results. Memtest is dull, and stops you using your PC, but like Windows virus scans, it seems like a necessary evil in this case. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 17:13:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C6A16A41F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:13:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: from philemon.async.caltech.edu (philemon.async.caltech.edu [131.215.39.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663DA43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:13:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: from philemon.async.caltech.edu (localhost.caltech.edu [127.0.0.1]) by philemon.async.caltech.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5LHD8mT032618; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jd@philemon.async.caltech.edu) Received: (from jd@localhost) by philemon.async.caltech.edu (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5LHD8Uh032617; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jd) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:13:08 -0700 From: Paul Allen To: David Langelan Message-ID: <20050621171308.GK24844@philemon.async.caltech.edu> References: <20050620054114.GA21171@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu> <20050621150310.GA35049@langelan.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050621150310.GA35049@langelan.dyndns.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mac osx disklabels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:13:12 -0000 I didn't originally, but then I did. The slices seem messed up. and emulators/hfs doesn't report a reasonable dump of the partition table--all the sizes are really off. -Paul >From David Langelan , Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 10:03:10AM -0500: > On 2005-06-19, 22:41 -0700, pallen@donut.caltech.edu wrote: > > I went to mount a UFS filesystem on an OSX prepared drive and discovered > > that apparantly FreeBSD can't read mac disklabels? Is this true or am I > > missing something? > > > Paul, > > Just curious... Do you have GEOM_APPLE loaded? > > > -- > DRL > > (drlangelan)(at)(gmail)(dot)(com) -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 17:37:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D6416A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E79243D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5LHbY8W043304; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:37:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8EF0763A2; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:37:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:37:34 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Grant Message-ID: <20050621173734.GA40187@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Grant , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050620213151.169df7bf.freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org> <20050620211027.GA32106@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20050620232115.5a7a5fd0.freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620232115.5a7a5fd0.freebsdlists@thingysrealm.myftp.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Jitter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:37:42 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 11:21:15PM +0100, Grant wrote: > > Try enlarging the soundcards DMA buffer; Add the following line to > > /boot/device.hints and reboot: > >=20 > > hint.pcm.0.buffersize=3D"16384" > I found the above line on google when i had a looke, i shoved it in but > with another number 65536 i dont know if that made a difference, but i > tried the exact line above with that number. >=20 > The Jitter is still there, but instead of happening when firefox is > scrolling its only when firefox is just about to finish loading > something, which i suppose would cause a CPU spike or something ? also > during playback firefox runs very very slow :/ i dontk now if this is > related at all, but with the cpu and the ram it shouldnt run that bad, > the window manager is fluxbox so thats keeping things to a minimum. Some things you might try (might be totally off-base :): - run the player at a higher priority (with nice(1)). - have the scheduler make smaller slices; set the kern.sched.quantum sysctl to a smaller value. I thought there was another sysctrl for the ratio of user process time to system time, but I can't remember. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCuFBeEnfvsMMhpyURAgNHAJ0SpNMgHW+pE0x7pmc4in93xEJhVgCgoA39 mOvM5bhc2HP6/XZPTMln0Us= =oW6z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 17:42:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA7C16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:42:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f17.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3D043D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:42:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:42:22 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 200.108.11.32 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:42:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.108.11.32] X-Originating-Email: [stephanweaver@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stephanweaver@hotmail.com From: "Stephan Weaver" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:42:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 17:42:22.0392 (UTC) FILETIME=[9432E380:01C57688] Subject: 2 Nic on same subnet. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:42:22 -0000 Hello All, I am trying to place my network behind a firewall [FreeBSD BASED]. What i have Done! I have 2 Nic in the BSD PC. vr0, vr1. Both on the same subnet eg. vr0 - 192.168.0.1 , vr1 - 192.168.0.2. I Plug the Ethernet Cable From the DSL modem Into my vr0 interface. I Plug the Ethernet Cable from the SWITCH into my vr1 interface. I am running ipnat as follows. ipnat.rules ---------------- map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 ----------- Here are some messages i get from my /var/log/messages. Jun 20 22:47:36 pizzaboys kernel: arp: 192.168.0.198 is on vr0 but got reply from 00:08:74:4f:57:c5 on vr1 Thank You, Stephan Weaver stephanweaver@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 17:59:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2935216A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:59:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from host78.ipowerweb.com (host78.ipowerweb.com [66.235.200.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CD743D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:59:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from c-67-190-22-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.190.22.43] helo=electricblue) by host78.ipowerweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dkn1o-0003E7-Nj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:59:16 -0700 From: "Brian Duke" To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:58:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcV2iuAgZks3BNgjSK6RK/2Cej9Ldg== X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host78.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - box201.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20050621175916.07CD743D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: BTX loader fails on Gateway ALR 9200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:59:17 -0000 The BTX loader fails right after the initial setup screen.=20 I have : Gateway ALR 9200 4 processor xeon 500's=20 1 gig ram=20 1 adaptec 3200S scsi card running modified raid 5 6 drives. 2 sets of striped 3 and mirrored. =20 I am having a difficult time finding anything that will load in this = box.=20 I prefer FreeBSD if possible. I've googled for a couple days and didn't = find much help. Can someone help me get past this first hurdle? =20 =20 Brian Duke Blue Incorporated. -=3D-_-=3D=3D--=3D_-=3D=83=20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 18:02:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB8516A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:02:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADAFC43D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:02:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 14062 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jun 2005 18:02:33 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2005 18:02:33 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 4D7B567CB; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:02:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:02:21 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Stephan Weaver Message-ID: <20050621180221.GA47333@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Nic on same subnet. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:02:35 -0000 On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 01:42:21PM -0400, Stephan Weaver wrote: > Hello All, > > I am trying to place my network behind a firewall [FreeBSD BASED]. > > What i have Done! > > I have 2 Nic in the BSD PC. > vr0, vr1. > Both on the same subnet eg. > vr0 - 192.168.0.1 , vr1 - 192.168.0.2. Why? 192.168 subnets are far too cheap to try to kludge something like this to work. Just move your internal switched network to something like 192.168.1.0/24. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 18:06:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E8F16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:06:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2885D43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:06:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5LI6mYs009184; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:06:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4C54C625B; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:06:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:06:48 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD Message-ID: <20050621180648.GB40187@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:06:50 -0000 --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 01:49:06PM +0100, Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD wro= te: > I've cvsup'ed my source tree, and stepping through the instructions in > the handbook I note that it recommends running make buildworld with > -DNOPROFILE (or specifying it in make.conf). I'm not clear what the > impact of running profiled libraries is against non-profiled > libraries. I've done a quick search via google and through the list > archives without success. It's not about profiled libraries, but profiling libraries. Let me explain. Programs that are compiled with profiling enabled gather data about their run-time behaviour, and write that to a file, usualy gmon.out. If the program is linked to a profiling library, data about the time spent running functions in that library are also recorded. The contents of that file can be analyzed with the gprof program, to see where the program spends its time. Now if you compile a program with not-profiling libraries, gprof cannot tell you much about the time your program spent in functions in that librar= y. Programs that have been compiled with profiling enabled might run fractionally slower that without. But I doubt the difference is significant on a modern machine.=20 I'll be bold and say that modern machines are so fast that there is seldom need to profile a program. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCuFc4EnfvsMMhpyURAnyfAJ9ZFAWqrZz9J2dFGELSgSiFkfteBQCffgMT jw9c4q2TklZtABAxQ7tADjc= =l6mr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 18:24:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3B616A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:24:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D1A43D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377245FA7; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14644-05; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-66-3.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.66.3]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2455C46; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42B85B62.3030303@mac.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:34 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <20050621180648.GB40187@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050621180648.GB40187@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:24:39 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 01:49:06PM +0100, Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD wrote: >>I've cvsup'ed my source tree, and stepping through the instructions in >>the handbook I note that it recommends running make buildworld with >>-DNOPROFILE (or specifying it in make.conf). I'm not clear what the >>impact of running profiled libraries is against non-profiled >>libraries. I've done a quick search via google and through the list >>archives without success. Normally, you don't use the profiled versions of libraries unless you are running a binary which links against them. If you are running a binary which has not been compiled with profiling, the toolchain will link it against normal versions of the libraries. [ ... ] > Programs that have been compiled with profiling enabled might run > fractionally slower that without. But I doubt the difference is > significant on a modern machine. The amount of overhead seems to vary by platform, but it's generally only a couple of percent. Not very significant, but maybe noticable. The major downsides to having profiled libraries around is that they use more disk space than normal versions, and it takes longer to do a buildworld, but the runtime performance of the system for normal binaries will not be affected. > I'll be bold and say that modern machines are so fast that there is > seldom need to profile a program. Even people who write code on fast machines may run that code on slower boxes sometime. However, what you've said is still true: there is seldom need to profile a program. Get it working well enough that it doesn't leak memory, and then worry about profiling it. :-) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 18:45:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C291616A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (mail1.computerking.ca [68.146.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36A443D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (localhost.computerking.ca [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499BB6C25F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7996C25E for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:00:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <42B7C8E7.6020102@computerking.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:59:35 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: ipf and ipnat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:45:57 -0000 Hello all i use FreeBSD stable 4.11 and wish to use ipf i have been using ipfw with type set to open however i have recently been attacked and need to beef up security. I have followed the basic setup that is in the freebsd handbook only differance is i added a few lines here and there to my ruleset. Everything seems to work fine when i have ipfirewall compiled into my kernel. When i remove the ipfirewall options ie IPFIREWALL, IPDIVERT everhting seems to break. Adding IPFILTER to the kernel does not help ethier. what is going on how do i enable ipf and ipnat and disable ipfw and natd. I had ipf working once but now it is broken and so is ipfw i have a broken bsd box please help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 18:46:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B32716A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:46:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0588143D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:46:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [198.182.157.164] (dhcp7164.calarts.edu [198.182.157.164]) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j5LIkAp10203 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42B86072.7060307@calarts.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:46:10 -0700 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: apsfilter problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:46:11 -0000 I have my printer printing postscript (it is a jetdirect with postscript) and text files; however I was trying to print jpeg and png files from the command line which came out as garbage. It was suggested that I use apsfilter which I then installed as a package. I ran the setup and it modified my /etc/printcap file lp|PS;r=1200x1200;q=photo;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\ :lp=:\ :rm=172.18.1.13:\ :rp=raw:\ :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: # APS1_END - don't delete this however I can still print text but when trying to print jpeg or png it does nothing but give me an error apsfilter fatal error: missing pnmdepth; can't convert file type 'jpeg image data' and apsfilter fatal error: missing pngtopnm; can't convert file type 'png image data' I looked it the packages and ports collection for these items with no luck I then downloaded one from source and It failed to install is there something I'm missing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 18:58:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D7B16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:58:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB3343D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:58:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5LIwHRZ045431; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:58:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8098A6281; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:58:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:58:17 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Sean Murphy Message-ID: <20050621185817.GA40824@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Sean Murphy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42B86072.7060307@calarts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B86072.7060307@calarts.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apsfilter problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:58:22 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:46:10AM -0700, Sean Murphy wrote: > apsfilter fatal error: missing pnmdepth; can't convert file type 'jpeg > image data' > > and >=20 > apsfilter fatal error: missing pngtopnm; can't convert file type 'png > image data' You can find these in the 'netpbm' port. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCuGNJEnfvsMMhpyURAqetAKCL89OeaZCQkzLNBzFUKv5UqWUgCQCeMKeL I7Oj6XfIM+bmHKZIrvACTLc= =e0bI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 19:05:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3620716A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:05:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f42.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D26D43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:05:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:05:14 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 200.108.17.69 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:05:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.108.17.69] X-Originating-Email: [stephanweaver@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stephanweaver@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "Stephan Weaver" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:05:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 19:05:14.0928 (UTC) FILETIME=[280FAB00:01C57694] Subject: RE: 2 Nic on same subnet. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:05:15 -0000 Ok what i did was change the ip of the dsl modem and on the vr0 interface. works except for this message Jun 21 01:11:12 pizzaboys kernel: arp: 192.168.1.1 is on lo0 but got reply from 00:02:44:8f:3d:90 on vr1 Jun 21 01:12:13 pizzaboys kernel: arp: 192.168.1.1 is on lo0 but got reply from 00:02:44:8f:3d:90 on vr1 >From: "fbsd_user" >Reply-To: >To: "Stephan Weaver" >Subject: RE: 2 Nic on same subnet. >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:22:31 -0400 > > >If your ISP is assigning you a IP address in the 192.168.x.x range >then your ISP is already NAting you. You will have to NAT your own >LAN users also. To keep things simple use some IP range in the >10.0.0.0 range for your LAN NATing. There is no need to bridge >anything. > >It would be helpful if you explained your overall network. > >If you follow the FreeBSD Install guide it will walk you though the >configuration of private LAN off your FreeBSD box that is connected >to public internet. > The Install guide is here www.a1poweruser.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Stephan Weaver [mailto:stephanweaver@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM >To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com >Subject: RE: 2 Nic on same subnet. > > >now lets say vr0 is now 192.168.1.1 >will i have to bridge connections? > > >From: "fbsd_user" > >Reply-To: > >To: "Stephan Weaver" > >Subject: RE: 2 Nic on same subnet. > >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:57:25 -0400 > > > >you can not do that. have to be different subnets. > >now NIC wired to switch is your private LAN use 192.168.2.2 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Stephan > >Weaver > >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:42 PM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: 2 Nic on same subnet. > > > > > >Hello All, > > > >I am trying to place my network behind a firewall [FreeBSD BASED]. > > > >What i have Done! > > > >I have 2 Nic in the BSD PC. > >vr0, vr1. > >Both on the same subnet eg. > >vr0 - 192.168.0.1 , vr1 - 192.168.0.2. > > > >I Plug the Ethernet Cable From the DSL modem Into my vr0 interface. > >I Plug the Ethernet Cable from the SWITCH into my vr1 interface. > > > >I am running ipnat as follows. > >ipnat.rules > >---------------- > >map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > >map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 > >map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > > > > > >----------- > >Here are some messages i get from my /var/log/messages. > >Jun 20 22:47:36 pizzaboys kernel: arp: 192.168.0.198 is on vr0 but > >got reply > >from 00:08:74:4f:57:c5 on vr1 > > > > > >Thank You, Stephan Weaver > >stephanweaver@hotmail.com > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's > >FREE! > >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 19:11:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D43B16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:11:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sarath@linuxtechs.net) Received: from venus.mediacatch.com (ns13.mediacatch.com [216.27.201.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7235043D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:11:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sarath@linuxtechs.net) Received: from [202.83.54.141] (helo=[202.83.54.141]) by venus.mediacatch.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Dko9M-0003DD-BZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:11:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42B86629.1020106@linuxtechs.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:10:33 -0700 From: Sarath ER User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - venus.mediacatch.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - linuxtechs.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: 2 Nic on same subnet. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:11:03 -0000 Stephan Weaver wrote: > Hello All, > > I am trying to place my network behind a firewall [FreeBSD BASED]. > > What i have Done! > > I have 2 Nic in the BSD PC. > vr0, vr1. > Both on the same subnet eg. > vr0 - 192.168.0.1 , vr1 - 192.168.0.2. > > I Plug the Ethernet Cable From the DSL modem Into my vr0 interface. > I Plug the Ethernet Cable from the SWITCH into my vr1 interface. > > I am running ipnat as follows. > ipnat.rules > ---------------- > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > > > ----------- > Here are some messages i get from my /var/log/messages. > Jun 20 22:47:36 pizzaboys kernel: arp: 192.168.0.198 is on vr0 but got > reply from 00:08:74:4f:57:c5 on vr1 > > > Thank You, Stephan Weaver > stephanweaver@hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's > FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You must delete the routes for the network from both interfaces and add individual host routes to the interfaces. Suppose you have a cable modem on vr0 add a host route for that Ip and assign it to vr0 interface and add the rest of the hosts in your lan in vr1 interface. Or you can choose a different network or subnet the same ip block Cheers, - Sarath From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 19:12:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556E816A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:12:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f35.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4169B43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:12:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:12:21 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 200.108.17.69 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:12:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.108.17.69] X-Originating-Email: [stephanweaver@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stephanweaver@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <42B86629.1020106@linuxtechs.net> From: "Stephan Weaver" To: sarath@linuxtechs.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:12:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 19:12:21.0111 (UTC) FILETIME=[26160870:01C57695] Cc: Subject: Re: 2 Nic on same subnet. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:12:21 -0000 Can you give me an example of how this is done? >From: Sarath ER >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: 2 Nic on same subnet. >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:10:33 -0700 > >Stephan Weaver wrote: > >>Hello All, >> >>I am trying to place my network behind a firewall [FreeBSD BASED]. >> >>What i have Done! >> >>I have 2 Nic in the BSD PC. >>vr0, vr1. >>Both on the same subnet eg. >>vr0 - 192.168.0.1 , vr1 - 192.168.0.2. >> >>I Plug the Ethernet Cable From the DSL modem Into my vr0 interface. >>I Plug the Ethernet Cable from the SWITCH into my vr1 interface. >> >>I am running ipnat as follows. >>ipnat.rules >>---------------- >>map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp >>map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 >>map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 >> >> >>----------- >>Here are some messages i get from my /var/log/messages. >>Jun 20 22:47:36 pizzaboys kernel: arp: 192.168.0.198 is on vr0 but got >>reply from 00:08:74:4f:57:c5 on vr1 >> >> >>Thank You, Stephan Weaver >>stephanweaver@hotmail.com >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! >>http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >You must delete the routes for the network from both interfaces and add >individual host routes to the interfaces. Suppose you have a cable modem >on vr0 add a host route for that Ip and assign it to vr0 interface and add >the rest of the hosts in your lan in vr1 interface. Or you can choose a >different network or subnet the same ip block > >Cheers, >- Sarath >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 19:18:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EA616A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:18:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B07443D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:18:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: from edsger (195-241-9-180-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl [195.241.9.180]) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACE28011234; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:18:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "Freek Nossin" To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:19:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcV14Us4vyaZjRROSNa3qUtshp6+OQAsNQoQ Message-Id: <20050621191846.CACE28011234@smtp-out0.tiscali.nl> Cc: 'Derrick Ryalls' Subject: RE: Battlefield 2 Server won't start -> libstdc++, incorrect version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:18:48 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Derrick Ryalls [mailto:ryallsd@gmail.com] > Sent: maandag 20 juni 2005 23:45 > To: Freek Nossin > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Battlefield 2 Server won't start > > On 6/20/05, Freek Nossin wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I was happy when I saw that the Battlefield 2 Linux Server was released. > Now > > I finally had the chance to run this server (a freebsd machine ofcourse > ;)) > > I thought. After a smooth install (the most annoying parts was accepting > the > > agreements) I tried to run the server. > > > > I entered the following command in my BF2 directory: > > > > ./start.sh > > > > And then I got this "very nice" error message: > > > > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: > version > > `GLIBCPP_3.2.2' not found (required by > > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f) > > > > The library the program was looking for wasn't in the location it > expected, > > as it is a linux library. I made a symbolic link to the correct file: > > > > $ls -al /usr/lib/libstdc++.* > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1709842 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.a > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so -> > > libstdc++.so.4 > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 834196 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.4 > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 Jun 15 15:02 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 > -> > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1705326 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++_p.a > > > > and > > > > $ls -al /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5* > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 18 Mar 21 21:42 > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.1 > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4181584 Sep 4 2002 > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.1 > > > > but I still get the same error message. Perhaps it has something to do > with > > the note about GLIBCPP_3.2.2. I checked my GCC version, which is 3.2.1. > Can > > this be the cause? Or what can else cause this kind of error? > > > > I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3 > > > > You could make my day I one of you know how to solve this! > > > > I don't have a solution for this, but here is what someone send me, > and they claim it worked: > > installed linux_base-8-8 > installed the server distro > copied the libsc++.so.5 and so.1 to the game servers /ia_32 folder > > > > I haven't yet been able to try this out, so no promises and sounds > like what you already did. If you do figure this out before the rest > of us, please update the archives (send a mail telling what to do). > > Good luck to us all. No luck at all :( 2 things I dont understand -) libsc++.so.5, i do not know of such a file, but I think its a typo. Just to be sure, you did mean libstdc++.so.5, didn't you? -) so.1, again I file I don't have. Should I have it? I did try to copy the libstdc++.so.5 to the directory you referred to. The game indeed found the lib, but it was just another way to reach the same goal that I did by creating the symbolic link. The result was almost the same, the only thing that changed was the error message, which now referred to the copied library (so it DOES find the file, but it seems to be an incorrect version). Did you succeed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 19:23:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4B816A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:23:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@raiden.net) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [69.51.151.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFC943D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:23:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@raiden.net) Received: from v5k7y7.raiden.net (works.jasnetworks.net [192.168.0.3]) by dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5LJZIkc013222 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:35:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from me@raiden.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20050621152529.00a41c70@192.168.0.25> X-Sender: raiden@raiden.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:31:43 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Lord Raiden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Freebsd Print Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:23:36 -0000 Hi all. I'm building a Freebsd 5.3 based mini-itx file server on my network here and I'd like to also turn it into a print server. Thing is, I've got an HP Deskjet 842c printer that connects via USB that is my printer. It's not lan capable which kinda complicates things. THEREFORE, I'd like to connect it via USB to the new file server, then set it up to do printing for the whole network. Now, my questions are this. 1. What do I need to do to set this up on the file server? Heck, if someone's got a tutorial somewhere on setting up a print server using freebsd and can tell me what special configs I need to make my usb connected HP printer work off it, that'd be awesome. 2. What do I need to do to get my freebsd workstation to print to it? To date I haven't gotten around to configuring printing on the Freebsd Workstation (it's running 4.10) yet, so I think it's time I did that. Again, a tutorial would be welcome. 3. What do I have to do special, if anything, to allow my windows machines to print to the printer via the print/file server on the network? I'm running both 98se and WinXP Pro on them. Sorry to bug you guys with something so trivial, but google wasn't being friendly to me with this subject, so I'm coming to you guys next. Thanks in advance for any answers. :D Steven Lake -Owner/Webmaster Raiden's Realm www.raiden.net Come see "Monk" the comic strip and laugh till you die! :) http://www.raiden.net/Monk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 19:46:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066E516A42B for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:46:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sarath@linuxtechs.net) Received: from venus.mediacatch.com (ns13.mediacatch.com [216.27.201.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B2443D58 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:46:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sarath@linuxtechs.net) Received: from [202.83.54.141] (helo=[202.83.54.141]) by venus.mediacatch.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Dkohe-0006UH-AV; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:46:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42B86E6F.2040400@linuxtechs.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:45:51 -0700 From: Sarath ER User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephan Weaver References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - venus.mediacatch.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - linuxtechs.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Nic on same subnet. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:46:32 -0000 Stephan Weaver wrote: > Can you give me an example of how this is done? <--- please do not TOP > POST > > >> From: Sarath ER >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: 2 Nic on same subnet. >> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:10:33 -0700 >> >> Stephan Weaver wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I am trying to place my network behind a firewall [FreeBSD BASED]. >>> >>> What i have Done! >>> >>> I have 2 Nic in the BSD PC. >>> vr0, vr1. >>> Both on the same subnet eg. >>> vr0 - 192.168.0.1 , vr1 - 192.168.0.2. >>> >>> I Plug the Ethernet Cable From the DSL modem Into my vr0 interface. >>> I Plug the Ethernet Cable from the SWITCH into my vr1 interface. >>> >>> I am running ipnat as follows. >>> ipnat.rules >>> ---------------- >>> map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp >>> map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 >>> map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 >>> >>> >>> ----------- >>> Here are some messages i get from my /var/log/messages. >>> Jun 20 22:47:36 pizzaboys kernel: arp: 192.168.0.198 is on vr0 but >>> got reply from 00:08:74:4f:57:c5 on vr1 >>> >>> >>> Thank You, Stephan Weaver >>> stephanweaver@hotmail.com >>> >> >> You must delete the routes for the network from both interfaces and >> add individual host routes to the interfaces. Suppose you have a >> cable modem on vr0 add a host route for that Ip and assign it to vr0 >> interface and add the rest of the hosts in your lan in vr1 interface. >> Or you can choose a different network or subnet the same ip block >> >> Cheers, >> - Sarath >> _______________________________________________ > route delete -net yournetworkhere/maskhere <- you might have to do it twice... route add -host ipaddressofthelocalinterface -interface vr0 route add -host ipaddressofcablemodemhere -interface vr0 route add -host ipaddressofvr1here -interface vr1 route add -host firsthostinlan -interface vr1 route add -host secondhostinlan -interface vr1 ............ I think this would do it... - Sarath From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 19:55:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E413516A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:55:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from www.endries.org (www.endries.org [216.230.164.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFF243D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:55:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03841FDCDC for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:54:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.endries.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.endries.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id 01390-02 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.132] (host-64-246-146-151.ubr0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.146.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51081FDA47 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42B86FE1.3010304@endries.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:52:01 -0400 From: Josh Endries User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050405) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at endries.org Subject: Dialogic 4-port modem PCI cards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:55:29 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I have an Intel Dialogic D/4PCI 4-port modem and I'm wondering if anyone knows whether I can get it working on FreeBSD. I haven't touched a modem in probably 15 years and I've forgotten most everyting heh. It works on Linux, via Intel's software, but I've tried googling and looking through the hardware list and kernel files but haven't found anything. Josh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCuG/gV/+PyAj2L+IRAjCjAJ0fBdJCInLCsuOHIWN459Ltf5iK+gCeLEdk SxvFYxswO3luYg92kSw/fDI= =hUGl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 19:57:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BE916A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (mail1.computerking.ca [68.146.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C1643D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (localhost.computerking.ca [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8BB6C32B for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:57:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65136C294 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:57:27 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <42B87130.6050203@computerking.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:57:36 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030901050306080205090502" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: ipf not working correctly??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:57:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030901050306080205090502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all i use FreeBSD stable 4.11 and wish to use built in ipf version 3.x something.i have been using ipfw with type set to open however i have recently been attacked and need to beef up security. I have followed the basic setup that is in the freebsd handbook and read through the world famous ipf howto lots of times. Currently I have the below options compiled into my kernel the docs I have read say you do not need to compile ipfilter options into the kernel to use it. I was going to uncomment the ipfilter stuff and comment out the ipfirewall options when I got ipfilter working. Is it necessary to recompile the kernel without ipfirewall options to make ipfilter work. Kernel OPTIONS======================== options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 options IPDIVERT #options IPFILTER #options IPFILTER_LOG #options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK IN MY /etc/rc.conf========================== #IPF & IPNAT ipfilter_enable="YES" # Start ipf firewall #ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" # loads rules definition text file ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipfopen.rules" ipmon_enable="YES" # Start IP monitor log ipmon_flags="-Ds" # D = start as daemon, s = log to syslog, v = ipnat_enable="YES" # Start ipnat function ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" # rules definition file for ipnat AS WELL AS THIS TO TURN OF IPFILTER AND NATD #IPFW & NATD firewall_enable="NO firewall_type="OPEN" firewall_quiet="NO" #firewall_scrYESt="/etc/rc.firewall" natd_enable="NO natd_interface="xl0" natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" HERE IS /etc/ipnat.rules============================================= # the rule that forwards everthing map xl0 192.168.0.0/16 -> 0/32 #VNC HOSTS #HOST 1 #java rdr xl0 0/32 port 5801 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5801 #no java rdr xl0 0/32 port 5901 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5901 #HOST 2 #java rdr xl0 0/32 port 5802 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5802 #no java rdr xl0 0/32 port 5902 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5902 =============================================================== PLEASE FIND MY ipf.rules ATTACHED TO this email I have even tried to use the following rules set to see if I could get ipf to work as an open firewall but it still seems to block to much. =============================================================== pass out quick on lo0 all pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on xl1 all pass in quick on xl1 all pass out quick on xl0 all pass in quick on xl0 all when I ping google.ca I get errors about unknown hostname. When I ping googles ipaddress I get permission denied over and over again. When I try to use lynx I get alert destination host unreachable. Seems like dns?? When I turn off ipf and use ipfw set to open everything works fine again. Please someone help what is going wrong. ipmon/ipfstat do not seem to help but mabey i need some guidance with these tools. --------------030901050306080205090502 Content-Type: text/plain; name="iprules.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="iprules.txt" ################################################################# # No restrictions on Inside LAN Interface for private network # Not needed unless you have LAN ################################################################# pass out quick on xl1 all pass in quick on xl1 all #fail safe open all on outside interface #pass out quick on x10 all #pass in quick on x10 all #pass out quick on xl0 from any to any all #pass in quick on xl0 from any to any all ################################################################# # No restrictions on Loopback Interface ################################################################# pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all ################################################################# # Interface facing Public Internet (Outbound Section) # Interrogate session start requests originating from behind the # firewall on the private network # or from this gateway server destine for the public Internet. ################################################################# # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server. # xxx must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS. # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file #pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to 192.168.0.202 port = 53 flags S keep state #pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to 192.168.0.202 port = 53 keep state #pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to 64.59.135.133 port = 53 flags S keep state #pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to 64.59.135.135 port = 53 keep state pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 53 flags S keep state pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state # Allow out access to my ISP's DHCP server for cable or DSL networks. # This rule is not needed for 'user ppp' type connection to the # public Internet, so you can delete this whole group. # Use the following rule and check log for IP address. # Then put IP address in commented out rule & delete first rule pass out log quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port = 67 keep state #pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to z.z.z.z port = 67 keep state # Allow out non-secure standard www function pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 flags S keep state # Allow out secure www function https over TLS SSL pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 443 flags S keep state # Allow out send & get email function pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 993 flags S keep state pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 143 flags S keep state pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 110 flags S keep state pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 flags S keep state # Allow out Time pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 37 flags S keep state # Allow out nntp news pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 119 flags S keep state # Allow out gateway & LAN users non-secure FTP ( both passive & active modes) # This function uses the IPNAT built in FTP proxy function coded in # the nat rules file to make this single rule function correctly. # If you want to use the pkg_add command to install application packages # on your gateway system you need this rule. pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep state # Allow out secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP # This function is using SSH (secure shell) pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep state # Allow out non-secure Telnet pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 23 flags S keep state # Allow out FBSD CVSUP function pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 5999 flags S keep state # Allow out ping to public Internet pass out quick on xl0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 8 keep state # Allow out whois for LAN PC to public Internet pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 43 flags S keep state # I have added these misc services =========================================== # VNC pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 5800 flags S keep state pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 5900 flags S keep state # Most Dlink Router boxes pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 8080 flags S keep state #============================================================================== # Block and log only the first occurrence of everything # else that's trying to get out. # This rule enforces the block all by default logic. block out log first quick on xl0 all ################################################################# # Interface facing Public Internet (Inbound Section) # Interrogate packets originating from the public Internet # destine for this gateway server or the private network. ################################################################# # Block all inbound traffic from non-routable or reserved address spaces block in quick on xl0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in quick on xl0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in quick on xl0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in quick on xl0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any #loopback block in quick on xl0 from 0.0.0.0/8 to any #loopback block in quick on xl0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any #DHCP auto-config block in quick on xl0 from 192.0.2.0/24 to any #reserved for docs block in quick on xl0 from 204.152.64.0/23 to any #Sun cluster interconnect block in quick on xl0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any #Class D & E multicast ##### Block a bunch of different nasty things. ############ # That I do not want to see in the log # But I do # Block frags block in log first quick on xl0 all with frags #block in quick on xl0 all with frags # Block short tcp packets block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp all with short #block in quick on xl0 proto tcp all with short # block source routed packets block in log first quick on xl0 all with opt lsrr #block in quick on xl0 all with opt ssrr # Block nmap OS fingerprint attempts # Log first occurrence of these so I can get their IP address block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any flags FUP # Block anything with special options block in log first quick on xl0 all with ipopts #block in quick on xl0 all with ipopts # Block public pings block in log first quick on xl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 8 #block in quick on xl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 8 # Block ident block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 113 #block in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 113 # Block all Netbios service. 137=name, 138=datagram, 139=session # Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. # Block MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 137 block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 138 block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 139 block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 81 # Allow traffic in from ISP's DHCP server. This rule must contain # the IP address of your ISP's DHCP server as it's the only # authorized source to send this packet type. Only necessary for # cable or DSL configurations. This rule is not needed for # 'user ppp' type connection to the public Internet. # This is the same IP address you captured and # used in the outbound section. # change from any any should be the ip address mentioned above pass in quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 keep state # Allow in standard www function because I have apache server # pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 flags S keep state # Allow in non-secure Telnet session from public Internet # labeled non-secure because ID/PW passed over public Internet as clear text. # Delete this sample group if you do not have telnet server enabled. #pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 23 flags S keep state # Allow in secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP from public Internet # This function is using SSH (secure shell) pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep state # SERVER OPERATIONS======================================================= #Email Server #smtp pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 flags S keep state pass in quick on x10 proto tcp from any to any port = 587 flags S keep state #imap and imaps pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 143 flags S keep state pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 993 flags S keep state #pop3 and pop3 secure not being used currently #pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 110 flags S keep state #pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 995 flags S keep state #Web Server #http and https pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 flags S keep state pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 443 flags S keep state #Samba Server? #Mysql Server? #vnc? #games? # Block and log only first occurrence of all remaining traffic # coming into the firewall. The logging of only the first # occurrence stops a .denial of service. attack targeted # at filling up your log file space. # This rule enforces the block all by default logic. block in log first quick on xl0 all #Home world 2 ports #pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 6737 flags S keep frags keep state #pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 2302: 2400 flags S keep frags keep state #VNC ################### End of rules file ################ --------------030901050306080205090502-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 20:09:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DE116A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:09:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2D443D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:09:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:09:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA0D@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SSH --Fixed Thread-Index: AcV2nLnbgzMG5VDeTVqhOaGHtg+4ygAAFOAg From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "John Larson" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SSH --Fixed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:09:44 -0000 Sorry folks,=20 I didn't realize I was using Puttytel now I Launched Putty=20 All is well -----Original Message----- From: John Larson [mailto:johnwlarson3rd@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:07 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola Subject: Re: SSH=20 can you ping your freebsd from xp.=20 john larson =09 ____________________________________________________=20 Yahoo! 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Sign up for Fantasy Football=20 http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 20:18:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537DD16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:18:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2F643D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:18:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so1187985rne for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gwjkq2vnnwF81zikkLPNC6oHHr6qMB00Kc1IX0Gy3f7XSAcTwsE0hUUnUxBKRkZp8vxrE2X1XYXS3eBC83YXADWqSTYx9edV7j0BcudMKSZh2JBoqz4J/rb1aXPlAXyXP5c95sfhv7Y9qg2h5tqDEigo2FYk6Ryk2Zbdubs6NGc= Received: by 10.38.101.38 with SMTP id y38mr7841rnb; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.208.36 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:18:25 -0700 From: Derrick Ryalls To: Freek Nossin In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050620125831.06C168011011@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Battlefield 2 Server won't start - Solved? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Derrick Ryalls List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:18:26 -0000 > On 6/20/05, Freek Nossin wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I was happy when I saw that the Battlefield 2 Linux Server was released= . Now > > I finally had the chance to run this server (a freebsd machine ofcourse= ;)) > > I thought. After a smooth install (the most annoying parts was acceptin= g the > > agreements) I tried to run the server. > > > > I entered the following command in my BF2 directory: > > > > ./start.sh > > > > And then I got this "very nice" error message: > > > > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: vers= ion > > `GLIBCPP_3.2.2' not found (required by > > /usr/home/dennis/BF2/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2_f) > > > > The library the program was looking for wasn't in the location it expec= ted, > > as it is a linux library. I made a symbolic link to the correct file: > > > > $ls -al /usr/lib/libstdc++.* > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1709842 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.a > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so -= > > > libstdc++.so.4 > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 834196 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.4 > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 Jun 15 15:02 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5= -> > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1705326 Jun 15 22:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++_p.a > > > > and > > > > $ls -al /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5* > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 18 Mar 21 21:42 > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.1 > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4181584 Sep 4 2002 > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.1 > > > > but I still get the same error message. Perhaps it has something to do = with > > the note about GLIBCPP_3.2.2. I checked my GCC version, which is 3.2.1.= Can > > this be the cause? Or what can else cause this kind of error? > > > > I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3 > > > > You could make my day I one of you know how to solve this! > > >=20 > I don't have a solution for this, but here is what someone send me, > and they claim it worked: >=20 > installed linux_base-8-8 > installed the server distro > copied the libsc++.so.5 and so.1 to the game servers /ia_32 folder >=20 > >=20 > I haven't yet been able to try this out, so no promises and sounds > like what you already did. If you do figure this out before the rest > of us, please update the archives (send a mail telling what to do). >=20 Here is what is working for me: linux_base-8 installed. copy libstdc++.so.5 from an install of linux_base-rh-9 (I can email binaries if needed) to bin/ia-32 execute start script. I believe one caveat is that the processor has to be failrly modern.=20 Works on 1.2gig, 2500XP, and 1800XP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 20:19:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D43316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:19:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AE743D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C3C5CEB; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15164-05; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:19:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-66-3.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.66.3]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DFB5CAF; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:19:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42B87659.9000108@mac.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:19:37 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Endries References: <42B86FE1.3010304@endries.org> In-Reply-To: <42B86FE1.3010304@endries.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dialogic 4-port modem PCI cards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:19:39 -0000 Josh Endries wrote: [ ... ] > I have an Intel Dialogic D/4PCI 4-port modem and I'm wondering if > anyone knows whether I can get it working on FreeBSD. I haven't > touched a modem in probably 15 years and I've forgotten most > everyting heh. It works on Linux, via Intel's software, but I've > tried googling and looking through the hardware list and kernel > files but haven't found anything. Try looking into the asterix port. However, I haven't had any luck getting it to work with an IDE Dialogic 4-port card under anything but Windows, so we went with VoIP instead.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 20:21:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880B516A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:21:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgrady@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C3743D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:21:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgrady@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so632404wri for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:21:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DaaA2uL7LWV7QTyXTUmBH2D5L8g6eFO8OOoRy+fh4mcEJHJWs0x6Ium5A6k7pP0IaPeavcjx44OcfVV4RaWM9G7nECI4Dpf58u2L2DC/CRdPs0OqmBcmDJIEV7ALtvAk2vjaiONJwfBw/947D7ng7clW9H7/xteV120OtRew0gE= Received: by 10.54.39.1 with SMTP id m1mr1018wrm; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.14 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5fee5e30050621132135eaa335@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:21:20 -0600 From: luke To: Bob Bomar In-Reply-To: <42ADDF43.1040002@ibsd.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADACE1.8070008@bivol.net> <42ADDF43.1040002@ibsd.us> Cc: Peter , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAC address & rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: luke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:21:23 -0000 a better solution to this is to call your isp and tell them your network card died so you got a new one with MAC address of the freebsd machine. they can reset the MAC they have on their end and you'll be alright. also, sometimes the modem is storing the MAC so you can either reset it if it has a switch or power it down for about 10 minutes to erase its memory. if you do this you'll have to reenter your pppoe info though so make sure you have it. good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 21:10:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B636F16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jjvaughan@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9F643D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jjvaughan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1492672wra for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:10:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pUeWxS2doYI1FsHgGwsGyWZF3ow1IiIOC2sA82xmMgbq7gPm8rjNcjJl47TVYrUcQZ8H5HAYEhQpCfQ6hMbphJk0TbkARPjUBe6aUzshdbPuDNYmW28c0y5+dH1Xxjl9Y5wAkowut2E1kogWHRofz6GmWvjOVGgTPfvTKFnvbY8= Received: by 10.54.143.4 with SMTP id q4mr18660wrd; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.106.20 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:10:08 -0400 From: John Vaughan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: 5.4 Installation Problems on Dell GX280 - Fatal trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Vaughan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:10:09 -0000 I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 on a Dell GX280 and am getting a Fatal trap 12 supervisor write, page not present error. From what I've read, this is an ACPI problem which I could disable if I had a PS2 port, but the GX280 doesn't have them. Has anyone gotten 5.4 to run properly on a GX280 using option 7 to boot with usb keyboard? -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 21:11:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A1E16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:11:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from katim110@wanadoo.nl) Received: from smtp06.wanadoo.nl (smtp06.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD7543D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:11:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from katim110@wanadoo.nl) Received: from hplaptop (c529d8d1c.cable.wanadoo.nl [82.157.141.28]) by smtp6.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DB8A45A03 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:11:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000601c576a5$c5f31210$6401a8c0@hplaptop> From: "M" To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:11:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:11:32 -0000 I tried to boot some FreeBSD CD's on a Compaq/HP nx9110 laptop = (5.4-i386-disc1.iso, 4.9-i386-disc1.iso Every time i have the same result : after the boot, the laptop shutdown = whitout any message and please check the link, it seems that im not the only one wiht this = prob. please helpp!!!!!!!! http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 21:11:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2886716A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:11:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pinhead@steve.stderror.at) Received: from stdin.stderror.at (stdin.stderror.at [83.65.196.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB7A43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:11:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pinhead@steve.stderror.at) Received: from steve.stderror.at (steve.stderror.at [83.65.196.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stdin.stderror.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A00A181 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:11:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from steve.stderror.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by steve.stderror.at (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5LLEFKl020544 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:14:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pinhead@steve.stderror.at) Received: (from pinhead@localhost) by steve.stderror.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5LLEFsn020543 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:14:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pinhead) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:14:15 +0200 From: Toni Schmidbauer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050621211415.GW97497@stderror.at> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200506210000.j5L00VMx068271@ceres.aros.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506210000.j5L00VMx068271@ceres.aros.net> Phone: +43 664 3502198 X-WWW-Home-Page: http://stderror.at X-PGP-Fingerprint: 53F2 28AE 8070 83E0 AFEC 0ABC BBF9 A34A 3ED1 3287 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Upgrading 5.3 to 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: toni@stderror.at List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:11:45 -0000 On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 06:00:34PM -0600, Cartoon Factory wrote: > I am a fairly novice user of FreeBSD. I just recently built two boxes with > 5.3, and now that 5.4 is out, I was curious how easy it would be to upgrade. > The "Migration" guide deals with 4.X => 5... do I essentially follow the > Source upgrade instructions? Is there a better/easier (for a novice!) way to > do this, especially since I am already at 5.3? These boxes are active > servers- how long would I be down? Is it even advisable for me to try this? there should be no problems upgrading from 5.3 to 5.4. while building userland / kernel and installing the kernel no downtime is necessary. it's always advisable to try the update first on a test system, even when this is your first time updating a freebsd system. downtime depends on how fast your servers are and how careful your are answering to mergemaster. on my athlon64 3200 rebooting + installworld + mergemaster takes about 15 minutes. read the following sections in the fabulous handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html and finally http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html so to upgrade to 5.4 tag=RELENG_5_4 is your friend. to give a short summary: 0) su - root 1) cd /usr/src 2) cvsup -g -L2 || make update (see make.conf) 2.1) READ UPDATING 3) rm -rf /usr/obj/* 4) make buildworld 5) make buildkernel 6) make installkernel 7) reboot to singlelooser mode 8) mount -a 9) mergemaster -p 10) cd /usr/src && make installworld 11) mergemaster 12) exit || reboot (to be sure everything works). but please, read the documentation mentioned above BEFORE starting your update, i'll give no warranty :-)! hth, toni -- Wer es einmal so weit gebracht hat, dass er nicht | toni at stderror dot at mehr irrt, der hat auch zu arbeiten aufgehoert | Toni Schmidbauer -- Max Planck | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 21:19:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D6316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:19:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F49743D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:19:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:19:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA24@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: CVSup -install Thread-Index: AcV2puGgS011Qv5MRkmVl/6P8Gt0uw== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: Subject: CVSup -install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:19:19 -0000 Hi everyone, I first tried to install from disc and was receiving =20 Error code - 1 So I decided to do it from the internet and this is where I'm getting = stuck This is the error I get =82=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80 User = Confirmation Requested = =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=83 =81 Warning: Can't find the `5.4-RC4' distribution on this = =81 =81 FTP server. You may need to visit a different server for = =81 =81 the release you are trying to fetch or go to the Options = =81 =81 menu and to set the release name to explicitly match what's = =81 =81 available on ftp.freebsd.org (or set to "any"). = =81 =81 = =81 =81 Would you like to select another FTP server? = =81 = =86=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80= =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80= =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=87 =81 [ Yes ] No = =81 = =84=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80= =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80= =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=85 So I follow the instructions , change my release version to any, And here's the error that yields = =82=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80= =80=80=80=80 Message = =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80= =80=80=80=80=83 =81Unable to get packages/INDEX file from selected media. = =81 =81 = =81 =81This may be because the packages collection is not available = =81 =81on the distribution media you've chosen, most likely an FTP = site =81 =81without the packages collection mirrored. Please verify that = =81 =81your media, or your path to the media, is correct and try = again. =81 = =86=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80= =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80= =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80(100%)=80=80=87 =81 [ OK ] = =81 = =84=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80[ = Press enter or space = ]=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=85 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Jean-Paul Natola Network Administrator Information Technology Family Care International 588 Broadway Suite 503 New York, NY 10012 Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 Fax: 212-941-5563 Mailto: Jnatola@Familycareintl.org=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 21:20:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D63B16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:20:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC9543D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:20:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050621211959.SEVR14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:19:59 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "RYAN vAN GINNEKEN" , Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:19:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B87130.6050203@computerking.ca> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: RE: ipf not working correctly??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:20:01 -0000 Your first problem is you have ipfw and ipf both turned on in kernel and rc.conf. You can only have one firewall on at a time. Remove all "firewall" and ipf statements from the kernel and recompile or just use the generic kernel. Then remove all "firewall" and "natd' statements from rc.conf. Then go back and read the FreeBSD handbook section on firewalls it's been updated to give detailed instructions on what to do. Follow then to the letter and you will be all set. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of RYAN vAN GINNEKEN Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:58 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ipf not working correctly??? Hello all i use FreeBSD stable 4.11 and wish to use built in ipf version 3.x something.i have been using ipfw with type set to open however i have recently been attacked and need to beef up security. I have followed the basic setup that is in the freebsd handbook and read through the world famous ipf howto lots of times. Currently I have the below options compiled into my kernel the docs I have read say you do not need to compile ipfilter options into the kernel to use it. I was going to uncomment the ipfilter stuff and comment out the ipfirewall options when I got ipfilter working. Is it necessary to recompile the kernel without ipfirewall options to make ipfilter work. Kernel OPTIONS======================== options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 options IPDIVERT #options IPFILTER #options IPFILTER_LOG #options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK IN MY /etc/rc.conf========================== #IPF & IPNAT ipfilter_enable="YES" # Start ipf firewall #ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" # loads rules definition text file ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipfopen.rules" ipmon_enable="YES" # Start IP monitor log ipmon_flags="-Ds" # D = start as daemon, s = log to syslog, v = ipnat_enable="YES" # Start ipnat function ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" # rules definition file for ipnat AS WELL AS THIS TO TURN OF IPFILTER AND NATD #IPFW & NATD firewall_enable="NO firewall_type="OPEN" firewall_quiet="NO" #firewall_scrYESt="/etc/rc.firewall" natd_enable="NO natd_interface="xl0" natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" HERE IS /etc/ipnat.rules============================================= # the rule that forwards everthing map xl0 192.168.0.0/16 -> 0/32 #VNC HOSTS #HOST 1 #java rdr xl0 0/32 port 5801 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5801 #no java rdr xl0 0/32 port 5901 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5901 #HOST 2 #java rdr xl0 0/32 port 5802 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5802 #no java rdr xl0 0/32 port 5902 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5902 =============================================================== PLEASE FIND MY ipf.rules ATTACHED TO this email I have even tried to use the following rules set to see if I could get ipf to work as an open firewall but it still seems to block to much. =============================================================== pass out quick on lo0 all pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on xl1 all pass in quick on xl1 all pass out quick on xl0 all pass in quick on xl0 all when I ping google.ca I get errors about unknown hostname. When I ping googles ipaddress I get permission denied over and over again. When I try to use lynx I get alert destination host unreachable. Seems like dns?? When I turn off ipf and use ipfw set to open everything works fine again. Please someone help what is going wrong. ipmon/ipfstat do not seem to help but mabey i need some guidance with these tools. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 21:25:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EEF16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:25:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC07043D58 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:25:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 9903 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2005 21:25:47 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jun 2005 21:25:47 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EEC152F; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Jun 2005 17:25:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44fyvb9zc6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf not working correctly??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:25:48 -0000 "fbsd_user" writes: > Your first problem is you have ipfw and ipf both turned on in kernel > and rc.conf. > You can only have one firewall on at a time. For the record, that is not true. They can coexist, and there are even some (unusual) situations where doing so is useful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 21:28:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CE916A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:28:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1642743D1F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050621212820.SPHR14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:28:20 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "M" , Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:28:19 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000601c576a5$c5f31210$6401a8c0@hplaptop> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: RE: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:28:21 -0000 You have to use a more descriptive subject. Explain in more detail just what you mean by "after boot" also explain how you created the disc1 cdrom. Check cdrom to see if it has single file or directory structure on it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of M Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:11 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I tried to boot some FreeBSD CD's on a Compaq/HP nx9110 laptop (5.4-i386-disc1.iso, 4.9-i386-disc1.iso Every time i have the same result : after the boot, the laptop shutdown whitout any message and please check the link, it seems that im not the only one wiht this prob. please helpp!!!!!!!! http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 22:08:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690A616A41F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:08:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ckleski@mbc.edu) Received: from mbc.edu (mail.mbc.edu [216.57.240.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC3143D5C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:08:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ckleski@mbc.edu) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=mbc.edu; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=KxQKLhjhAiaW3z8HfsWOts1Bz86mtg9zWQ54m8uOntgaThgH0isysqHqYvwNGIIjhn4JklwzaHW4CnmrK1BLE7dB7IIjrf2snfhQQKtV562s7JNRx9VVfPVCcEc58hqyj5RkV8XrW0sujZWaG3lAcfnQqsAKyC48bkTugCWXn6Y=; Received: from [192.168.0.100] by mbc.edu (Cipher TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.3.R) with ESMTP id md50005453220.msg for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:08:21 -0400 X-ClamAV: PASS From: Craig Kleski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:10:11 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050621175916.07CD743D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050621175916.07CD743D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506211810.11600.ckleski@mbc.edu> X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Message: md50005453220.msg X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Rules: tgibseut-MDPv0.53b (SNFv2-3.1i2) No patterns matched. X-SortMonster-MessageSniffer-Result: 0 X-Authenticated-Sender: ckleski@mbc.edu X-Spam-Processed: mail.mbc.edu, Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:08:21 -0400 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 192.168.0.100 does not match 65.202.151.105 X-MDRemoteIP: 65.202.151.105 X-Return-Path: ckleski@mbc.edu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail.mbc.edu, Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:08:22 -0400 Cc: Brian Duke Subject: Re: BTX loader fails on Gateway ALR 9200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:08:42 -0000 On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:58 pm, Brian Duke wrote: > The BTX loader fails right after the initial setup screen. > > I have : > > Gateway ALR 9200 > > 4 processor xeon 500's > > 1 gig ram > > 1 adaptec 3200S scsi card running modified raid 5 > > 6 drives. 2 sets of striped 3 and mirrored. > > > > I am having a difficult time finding anything that will load in this > box. > > I prefer FreeBSD if possible. I've googled for a couple days and > didn't find much help. > > Can someone help me get past this first hurdle? > > > > > > Brian Duke > > Blue Incorporated. > Please give freebsd version. Also, what other operating systems have failed to load for you? How exactly does the boot fail? Any error messages? Describe in detail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 22:10:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244EE16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FDC43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 6568 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2005 22:10:21 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jun 2005 22:10:21 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 805C92F; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Khanh Cao Van References: <5fd642fc050620191670837b21@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Jun 2005 18:10:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5fd642fc050620191670837b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44br5z9x9v.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions-list Subject: Re: howto update freebsd 4.7 release to 4.7 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:10:22 -0000 Khanh Cao Van writes: > My custom use freeBSD 4.7 release and ask me to install JDK1.4 on it . > But when I use ports to compile JDK , the system show me a message : Please keep in mind that 4.7 was superseded more than two years ago, and the whole 4.x branch was superseded as the -STABLE branch six months ago. Ports support will be slightly limited. > You must have a version of FreeBSD later than 4.7-STABLE February 2003 > or 5-CURRENT February 2003 to compile and use JDK 1.4.2. > > So I have to update my 4.7 release to 4.7 stable . But I do not know > how to do make it . I've looking everywhere but could not find any > clear document about it . Please help me ! > > PS : I'm not going to upgrade my kernel 4.7 to 4.8 or anything else , > just 4.7 only . Thank for reading ! That may not work; 4.7-STABLE is what eventually became 4.8. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html Try the RELENG_4_7 tag, and maybe it will include the changes you need. If not, maybe you should try a Linux JDK; some of those are in FreeBSD's ports system, too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 22:34:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF6316A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:34:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC8C43D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:34:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5LMZBb22568; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:35:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Alex Zbyslaw" , "Jerry McAllister" Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:34:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B84697.10308@dial.pipex.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: DDS Tape problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:34:15 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Alex Zbyslaw >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:56 AM >To: Jerry McAllister >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: DDS Tape problems > > >Jerry McAllister wrote: > >>>Windows drivers could easily be doing something clever to >compensate for >>>some known (to Microsoft at least) problem with the specific tape >>>drive. Being Windows it wouldn't bother to tell you. >>> >>> >> >>That is probably true. I just wish someone could find out >what that[those] >>trick[s] is[are] and apply them in FreeBSD - someone who knows >more about >>SCSI tape drivers than I. >> >> >That's not me I'm afraid :-( > >Have you found any references to the kind of problems you've had for >related OSes like Open/NetBSD or even Linux? Under FreeBSD 2.2.8 they had a thing in the SCSI driver code called a "Rogues gallery" AKA "quirks" that was used for correcting buggy tapedrive firmware. When CAM came out in FreeBSD, the SCSI code authors apparently decided that every tapedrive now would correctly implement the ANSI scsi 2 sequential command set. Of course this isn't true. At that time a lot of my old QIC drives stopped working. I think that they tried putting the same thing in CAM later on, but I don't think it works. As for my QIC cartridges, I eventually discovered that the 525MB Tandberg QIC drives worked properly reading and writing. I came across a reference at some point indicating that one of the FreeBSD SCSI developers had one of these drives so I think that the developers screwed themselves as well on this one. I've never gotten around to filing a PR because of the difficulty of setting up a dual-boot system to test out all this. The only SCSI card that was ever really supported well under 2.2.8 is the Adaptec 1540, and 1740 EISA card. Fortunately, both DDS3 and QIC drives are cheap on Ebay so it is easier to just buy another drive manufactured by someone else. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 22:37:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2BE16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:37:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shands@phirebird.net) Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9446443D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:37:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shands@phirebird.net) Received: from aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050621223730.HTCS481.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:37:30 +0100 Received: from phirebird.net ([81.97.173.20]) by aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20050621223730.OBLL14072.aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@phirebird.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:37:30 +0100 Received: from phobos ([192.168.0.45]) by phirebird.net with SMTP (NetNow!/5.0.0.1142) id PHRB45998F550 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:37:57 +0100 From: "SHands" To: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:37:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c576b1$df536280$2d00a8c0@phobos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Hops: 1 Subject: RE: 5.4 Installation Problems on Dell GX280 - Fatal trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:37:32 -0000 I've had a nightmare trying to get 5.4 (also tried 5.3) to work on a Dell GX280 - which had exactly the same problem. In the end, I ended up using a serial link to get the install done and then got inetd setup so that I could troubleshoot over the network. This didn't help long term as the keyboard didn't work once I'd restarted after finishing the install. I stumbled on this script which seemed to do the trick: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-October/022771 .html I used telnet to get at rc.conf - but there probably are other better ways. It seems a shame that Dell (and other manufacturers) are phasing out old 'legacy' hardware like the good ol' PS/2 ports. It's just a good job that they didn't kill the serial port on this particular machine! (yet) Hope this helps, Stuart -----Original Message----- From: John Vaughan [mailto:jjvaughan@gmail.com] Sent: 21 June 2005 22:10 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 5.4 Installation Problems on Dell GX280 - Fatal trap 12 I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 on a Dell GX280 and am getting a Fatal trap 12 supervisor write, page not present error. From what I've read, this is an ACPI problem which I could disable if I had a PS2 port, but the GX280 doesn't have them. Has anyone gotten 5.4 to run properly on a GX280 using option 7 to boot with usb keyboard? -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 22:46:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A2D16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:46:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (mail1.computerking.ca [68.146.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3626043D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:46:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (localhost.computerking.ca [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AF96C323 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCAF6C322 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <42B898D0.7090804@computerking.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:46:40 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: ipf not working correctly??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:46:33 -0000 Ok thank you for your reply I have followed the newest handbook to the letter did you read my email?? which part is incorrect the ipf stuff is comment out of my kernel and also turned off in rc.conf. I have had to re enable ipfw in the kernel to get natd and my server to work properly again. If i remove firewall and ipdivert options my server will no longer route packages to my LAN. I will recompile my kernel one more time with no firewall option at all and comment out all the natd and ipfw lines from rc.conf just to humor you and because i am desperate for this to work. Note i have already tried this but will try again. also you can have both enabled however i do only want ipf for now. fbsd_user wrote: >Your first problem is you have ipfw and ipf both turned on in kernel >and rc.conf. >You can only have one firewall on at a time. >Remove all "firewall" and ipf statements from the kernel and >recompile or just use the generic kernel. Then remove all "firewall" >and "natd' statements from rc.conf. > >Then go back and read the FreeBSD handbook section on firewalls it's >been updated to give detailed instructions on what to do. Follow >then to the letter and you will be all set. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of RYAN vAN >GINNEKEN >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:58 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: ipf not working correctly??? > > >Hello all i use FreeBSD stable 4.11 and wish to use built in ipf >version >3.x something.i have been using ipfw with type set to open however i >have recently been attacked and need to beef up security. > > > >I have followed the basic setup that is in the freebsd handbook and >read >through the world famous ipf howto lots of times. > > > >Currently I have the below options compiled into my kernel the docs >I >have read say you do not need to compile ipfilter options into the >kernel to use it. I was going to uncomment the ipfilter stuff and >comment out the ipfirewall options when I got ipfilter working. Is >it >necessary to recompile the kernel without ipfirewall options to make >ipfilter work. > > > >Kernel OPTIONS======================== > > > >options IPFIREWALL > >options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > >options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 > >options IPDIVERT > > > >#options IPFILTER > >#options IPFILTER_LOG > >#options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK > > > >IN MY /etc/rc.conf========================== > >#IPF & IPNAT > >ipfilter_enable="YES" # Start ipf firewall > >#ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" # loads rules definition text >file > >ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipfopen.rules" > > > >ipmon_enable="YES" # Start IP monitor log > >ipmon_flags="-Ds" # D = start as daemon, s = log to >syslog, v = > > > >ipnat_enable="YES" # Start ipnat function > >ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" # rules definition file for ipnat > > > >AS WELL AS THIS TO TURN OF IPFILTER AND NATD > > > >#IPFW & NATD > >firewall_enable="NO > >firewall_type="OPEN" > >firewall_quiet="NO" > >#firewall_scrYESt="/etc/rc.firewall" > > > >natd_enable="NO > >natd_interface="xl0" > >natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" > >HERE IS >/etc/ipnat.rules============================================= > ># the rule that forwards everthing > >map xl0 192.168.0.0/16 -> 0/32 > >#VNC HOSTS >#HOST 1 >#java >rdr xl0 0/32 port 5801 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5801 >#no java >rdr xl0 0/32 port 5901 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5901 > >#HOST 2 >#java >rdr xl0 0/32 port 5802 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5802 >#no java >rdr xl0 0/32 port 5902 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5902 > >=============================================================== > >PLEASE FIND MY ipf.rules ATTACHED TO this email I have even tried to >use >the following rules set to see if I could get ipf to work as an open >firewall but it still seems to block to much. > >=============================================================== > >pass out quick on lo0 all > >pass in quick on lo0 all > > > >pass out quick on xl1 all > >pass in quick on xl1 all > > > >pass out quick on xl0 all > >pass in quick on xl0 all > > >when I ping google.ca I get errors about unknown hostname. When I >ping >googles ipaddress I get permission denied over and over again. When >I >try to use lynx I get alert destination host unreachable. Seems >like >dns?? When I turn off ipf and use ipfw set to open everything works >fine >again. Please someone help what is going wrong. ipmon/ipfstat do >not >seem to help but mabey i need some guidance with these tools. > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 22:47:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3022816A41F for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:47:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D329A43D55 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:47:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7151D1CC42; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:47:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from danger.dnv.dewnet.sk (dewnet [213.215.105.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5D71CC3A; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:47:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:47:06 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1608562575.20050622004706@rulez.sk> To: "SHands" In-Reply-To: <000001c576b1$df536280$2d00a8c0@phobos> References: <000001c576b1$df536280$2d00a8c0@phobos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.rulez.sk X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.959 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.360, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: 5.4 Installation Problems on Dell GX280 - Fatal trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:47:19 -0000 Hello SHands, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 12:37:57 AM, you thinks about: > I've had a nightmare trying to get 5.4 (also tried 5.3) to work on a > Dell GX280 - which had exactly the same problem. In the end, I ended up > using a serial link to get the install done and then got inetd setup so > that I could troubleshoot over the network. > This didn't help long term as the keyboard didn't work once I'd > restarted after finishing the install. I stumbled on this script which > seemed to do the trick: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-October/022771 > .html > I used telnet to get at rc.conf - but there probably are other better > ways. > It seems a shame that Dell (and other manufacturers) are phasing out old > 'legacy' hardware like the good ol' PS/2 ports. It's just a good job > that they didn't kill the serial port on this particular machine! (yet) that sux, indeed :-( > Hope this helps, > Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: John Vaughan [mailto:jjvaughan@gmail.com] > Sent: 21 June 2005 22:10 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: 5.4 Installation Problems on Dell GX280 - Fatal trap 12 > I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 on a Dell GX280 and am getting a > Fatal trap 12 supervisor write, page not present error. From what > I've read, this is an ACPI problem which I could disable if I had a > PS2 port, but the GX280 doesn't have them. Has anyone gotten 5.4 to > run properly on a GX280 using option 7 to boot with usb keyboard? > -John So long, I can say that I'm able to use gx280 on 5.4. I was able to install it from CD with usb keyboard using option 7 - boot with usb keyboard. No fatal trap 12. The only problem I had is that I wan't able to use HTT. (but it was my fault I think :-) and since it is considered to be harmful and it doesn't really boost up machine's performance, I'm not solving it.) -- Best Regards, DanGer, ICQ: 261701668 | e-mail protecting at: http://www.2pu.net/ http://danger.rulez.sk | proxy list at: http://www.proxy-web.com/ | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! [ Fight Crime: Don't dial 911, shoot back!! ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 22:48:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE71C16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (mail1.computerking.ca [68.146.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8B243D1D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (localhost.computerking.ca [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945306C323 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:48:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763136C322 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:48:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <42B89949.7040808@computerking.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:48:41 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: ipf not working correctly??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:48:33 -0000 Thanks but do you have any advice for me rather than fbsd_user "fbsd_user" writes: > Your first problem is you have ipfw and ipf both turned on in kernel > and rc.conf. > You can only have one firewall on at a time. For the record, that is not true. They can coexist, and there are even some (unusual) situations where doing so is useful. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 23:04:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4561816A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:04:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8CA43D53 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:03:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5LN4wb22691; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Lord Raiden" , Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:03:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20050621152529.00a41c70@192.168.0.25> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Freebsd Print Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:04:00 -0000 Before spending a lot of time on this check out prices for hardware USB print servers. It's a lot easier to LPR from a FreeBD system to one of these, than to deal with the USB device right on the server itself. And these print servers will accept printing in all kinds of protocols, LPR, IPP, SMB, etc. etc. so very easy to share the printer with the 'doze boxen. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Lord Raiden >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:32 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Freebsd Print Server > > > Hi all. I'm building a Freebsd 5.3 based mini-itx >file server on >my network here and I'd like to also turn it into a print >server. Thing >is, I've got an HP Deskjet 842c printer that connects via USB >that is my >printer. It's not lan capable which kinda complicates things. >THEREFORE, >I'd like to connect it via USB to the new file server, then set >it up to do >printing for the whole network. Now, my questions are this. > >1. What do I need to do to set this up on the file server? Heck, if >someone's got a tutorial somewhere on setting up a print server using >freebsd and can tell me what special configs I need to make my usb >connected HP printer work off it, that'd be awesome. > >2. What do I need to do to get my freebsd workstation to print >to it? To >date I haven't gotten around to configuring printing on the Freebsd >Workstation (it's running 4.10) yet, so I think it's time I did >that. Again, a tutorial would be welcome. > >3. What do I have to do special, if anything, to allow my >windows machines >to print to the printer via the print/file server on the network? I'm >running both 98se and WinXP Pro on them. > > Sorry to bug you guys with something so trivial, but >google wasn't >being friendly to me with this subject, so I'm coming to you guys >next. Thanks in advance for any answers. :D > > > >Steven Lake >-Owner/Webmaster >Raiden's Realm >www.raiden.net > >Come see "Monk" the comic strip and laugh till you die! :) >http://www.raiden.net/Monk/ > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 23:22:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB8416A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:22:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C4FB43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:22:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2005 23:22:13 -0000 Received: from pD952C81A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.200.26] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 01:22:13 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20050621152529.00a41c70@192.168.0.25> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20050621152529.00a41c70@192.168.0.25> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-FlNwIzIEmycYB6ImFVg9" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:22:11 +0200 Message-Id: <1119396131.526.2.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: Freebsd Print Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:22:14 -0000 --=-FlNwIzIEmycYB6ImFVg9 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 15:31 -0400, Lord Raiden wrote: > Hi all. I'm building a Freebsd 5.3 based mini-itx file server o= n=20 > my network here and I'd like to also turn it into a print server. Thing=20 > is, I've got an HP Deskjet 842c printer that connects via USB that is my=20 > printer. It's not lan capable which kinda complicates things. THEREFORE= ,=20 > I'd like to connect it via USB to the new file server, then set it up to = do=20 > printing for the whole network. Now, my questions are this. >=20 > 1. What do I need to do to set this up on the file server? Heck, if=20 > someone's got a tutorial somewhere on setting up a print server using=20 > freebsd and can tell me what special configs I need to make my usb=20 > connected HP printer work off it, that'd be awesome. >=20 > 2. What do I need to do to get my freebsd workstation to print to it? T= o=20 > date I haven't gotten around to configuring printing on the Freebsd=20 > Workstation (it's running 4.10) yet, so I think it's time I did=20 > that. Again, a tutorial would be welcome. >=20 > 3. What do I have to do special, if anything, to allow my windows machin= es=20 > to print to the printer via the print/file server on the network? I'm=20 > running both 98se and WinXP Pro on them. >=20 > Sorry to bug you guys with something so trivial, but google wasn= 't=20 > being friendly to me with this subject, so I'm coming to you guys=20 > next. Thanks in advance for any answers. :D >=20 >=20 >=20 > Steven Lake > -Owner/Webmaster > Raiden's Realm > www.raiden.net Here you go: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing.html http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/printing.html#id= 2579155 --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-FlNwIzIEmycYB6ImFVg9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCuKEjaRsDctJfzIERAuluAJ4oY73NrG8ayi+Ah9lZlVjlYJnUIwCfRxYp 4fR5MaFyRKQOFnuKh/Sdeow= =GOai -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-FlNwIzIEmycYB6ImFVg9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 23:26:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A01C16A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:26:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rapopp@marvin.eastcentral.edu) Received: from marvin.eastcentral.edu (marvin.eastcentral.edu [198.209.216.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114DD43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:26:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rapopp@marvin.eastcentral.edu) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:26:52 -0500 From: Reuben Popp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050621232652.GA13734@marvin.eastcentral.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Wacom tablet and 5.4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:26:54 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all :) I was just given a Wacom Intuos tablet (I'm not sure which exact model it is, it's a 12x12), and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with making these work under bsd, preferrably with gimp. =20 The connector for the tablet itself is serial, and I have been plugging it in via my laptop's 25 pin serial connector ;). I am running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE, with most everything installed. If needed, I can post output from dmesg as well. =20 Thus far I have googled quite a bit, and tried the instructions from the Wacom Linux page (http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/main), with no luck so far. It would be great if I could get this device to work under bsd. Any ideas? Thanks to everyone in advance Reuben A. Popp --=20 I build no system. I ask an end to privilege, the abolition of slavery, equ= ality of rights, and the reign of law. Justice, nothing else. That is the a= lpha and omega of my argument. -- Pierre-Joseph Proudhon --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFCuKI87pGgbdeCPwERAoBiAJ4lqRHQinm4YEEgn+XU41XpNp9GUQCWMvRd P589tAKVnCkBrVMeNj7Vrw== =0z53 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 23:40:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D378016A41C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:40:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nethaniel@box201.com) Received: from host78.ipowerweb.com (host78.ipowerweb.com [66.235.200.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0AF43D4C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:40:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nethaniel@box201.com) Received: from c-67-190-22-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.190.22.43] helo=electricblue) by host78.ipowerweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DksLl-0006Vm-IB; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:40:13 -0700 From: "Nethaniel St. Donovan" To: "'Craig Kleski'" , Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:39:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <200506211810.11600.ckleski@mbc.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcV2rf3VzbDCFadMSH26DHr2u0JtvwABebDw X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host78.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - box201.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20050621234013.BB0AF43D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: 'Brian Duke' Subject: RE: BTX loader fails on Gateway ALR 9200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:40:13 -0000 > > Please give freebsd version. Also, what other operating systems have > failed to load for you? How exactly does the boot fail? Any error > messages? Describe in detail. > I have an abundance of information all I need to know is what to say that will help. The OS I am loading is currently FreeBSD 5.3 I went to adaptec and found some information about FreeBSD 4.11 so I tried. I can get Solaris 10 to load but it fails to find the raid as a valid drive. Fedora Core 2 also boots and says it can't find a drive. The Raid boots up fine and builds with no faults. When I install a little 850 meg IDE drive and set that to master, Still the btx loader dies. Here is what the final screen says: /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x3fbfc data=0x1c04+0x112c syms=[0x4+0x72f0+0x4+0x97c7] / int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030002 eip=00005755 eax=00000001 ebx=00000008 ecx=000039ff edx=00000082 esi=0000579c edi=0000e873 edi=000003ba esp=0000037e cs=f000 ds=0040 es=f000 fs=9dc0 gs=f000 ss=9c46 cs:eip=2e 0f 01 14 0f 20 c0 0c-01 0f 22 c0 eb 00 8e db 8e c3 8e e3 8e eb 0f 20-c0 24 fc 0f 22 c0 ea 78 ss:esp=11 64 08 00 01 00 00 00-00 f0 c0 9d 02 02 51 e8 05 00 c2 ee 05 00 00 f0-00 00 1a 7d c4 5e dd e6 BTX Halted I think I copied all that correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 00:24:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D6116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:24:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0B043D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j5M0OTxh088591; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:24:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Andy Miller Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:24:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20050620190528.GA5481@charade.trit.org> <20050621004252.GB5481@charade.trit.org> In-Reply-To: <20050621004252.GB5481@charade.trit.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD L2TP client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:24:31 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:42:52 +0000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:28 +0000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions >> you wrote: >>=20 >> >I am looking for a way to use FreeBSD as a L2TP VPN client. Does = anyone >> >know of a way to do this. I found ng_l2tp, but I'm not quite sure = how to >> >use it. If anyone has a good how-to, or can give me some direction, = I'd >> >appreciate it. Thank you. >>=20 >> See >> /usr/ports/net/sl2tps >>=20 >> ---Mike > >What I really need is a VPN client. I already have a server. I need a = way >to connect from various locations with my laptop. I havent used it, but=20 http://www.like.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de/propro/freebsd/ with mpd might work. I dont think any of these implementations have any encryption however. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 00:45:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE1A16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:45:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from web1.nidhog.com (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E2843D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:45:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from blacksea.nedyah.org (semcheski.squirrelhill.nidhog.net [66.207.143.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by web1.nidhog.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5M0jbet086511 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:45:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) From: "Michael H. Semcheski" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:36:32 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506212036.32588.lists@immuneit.com> X-Greylist: Recipient e-mail whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kolab 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:45:48 -0000 Hello, I was wondering if anyone had any experiences worth mentioning with Kolab or Kolab 2. I'm not familiar with OpenPKG, and I just wanted to get some feedback on it to see if I want to dive in or not. (If nobody has tried it or has any comments, I'm probably going to give it a shot just for kicks)... I am running 5.4 STABLE on amd64... Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 00:46:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AD116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:46:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfsbecker@swipnet.se) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6892443D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfsbecker@swipnet.se) Received: from gladbard ([213.113.244.78] [213.113.244.78]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050622004613.OLBT12835.mxfep02.bredband.com@gladbard> for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:46:13 +0200 Message-ID: <002101c576c3$c9f034b0$4ef471d5@gladbard> From: "Simon Ulfsbecker" To: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:46:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Xorg installation fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:46:16 -0000 Hi readers, I would greatly appreciate any suggestions as to why my Xorg installation fails. Xorg.0.log file can be fetched at: http://hem.bredband.net/simulf/Xorg.0.log During standard installation of freeBSD 5.4 my logitech USB 3 button mouse fails to be detected, but when doing a post install mouse configuration the pointer shows up and can be moved around when testing the mouse deamon. Still, my mouse pointer is reported as missing when running Xorg -config xorg.conf.new after that. Using a USB to PS/2-adapter might do the trick, but adhering to moore's law, my motherboard (Asus p4p800 deluxe) can't handle a PS/2 mouse for some odd reason. My box won't boot and the monitor wont power on having anything plugged into the PS/2 port (!). Some errors are also reported for my ATI Radeon 9800 pro GFX adapter, but I think it's the non present pointer device that is hindering me from doing an Xorg -config. I'm out of clues... Best regards, Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 00:58:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB3E16A41F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:58:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from sarajevo.pacific.net.sg (sarajevo.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA45843D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:58:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 14689 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 00:58:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by sarajevo with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 00:58:30 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050622005830.QYQC1233.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:58:30 +0800 Message-ID: <42B8B749.2090500@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:56:41 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:58:35 -0000 Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> >>Let's say this: >> >>Multi-threaded SMP architecture capable of executing the kernel >>in parallel on multiple processors, and with kernel preemption, >>allowing high priority kernel tasks to preempt other kernel >>activity, reducing latency. This includes a multi-threaded >>network stack and a multi-threaded virtual memory subsystem. >>With FreeBSD 6.x, support for a fully parallel VFS allows the >>UFS file system to run on multiple processors simultaneously, >>permitting load sharing of CPU-intensive I/O optimization. >> >>In the real world, that ought to sound more like: >> >>FreeBSD includes support for symmetric multiprocessing and >>multithreading. This makes the kernel lock down levels of >>interfaces and buffers, minimizing the chance of threads on >>different processors blocking each other, to give maximum >>performance on multiprocessor systems. >> The same old question pops up: what is the target audience. > > You see, the problem is that FreeBSD is not a general computer > operating system product. It is a very specific product in fact. > What is then the difference to Windows in this case? > FreeBSD is targeted at 2 main groups of people: > FreeBSD is used by the two groups. But it is not said that it could not be used by the third group. > 3) People who barely know how to push a button who have a problem > they need to fix with a computer operating system, and they > really don't care if they understand how the fix works as long > as it works. > I do not think that it the design of Windows which makes it target. It is the kind of support people with no knowledge get which makes it. > > This gives rise to a rather serious Catch-22 with FreeBSD: > > You need to really understand intimately how FreeBSD works > and how computer software that runs on it works in order to > get it to work well enough for you to learn intimately how it > works. > I do not think so. If people with no knowledge would get proper answers when they run into problems instead of the hint to read the manual would help a lot here. Those people will end in your group 2 which got the system setup by someone else. > Windows and Linux solved this Catch-22 by dumbing-down the > interface to their operating systems. Thus, an ignoramus > can get up and running with both of these systems, and that > person can remain fat, dumb, and happy, completely ignorant > of what he is doing, and those systems will still work enough > to get the job done. It may be a half-assed fix, but it is > better than nothing. > What is the difference to FreeBSD if the system is running once? > FreeBSD by contrast, long ago decided not to do this. For > starters, if you dumbed-down the FreeBSD interface, then to > most people FreeBSD wouldn't be any different than Linux > or Windows, so why mess with it? But, most importantly, a > dumbed-down interface gets in the way of a knowledgeable person, > and over time becomes a tremendous liability. > There is no need for an interface like this if the people starting with no computer knowledge would get proper help just to get the machine up and running. > With FreeBSD, the only way that a newbie can break the Catch-22 is > old-fashioned mental elbow grease. In short, by learning a bit > at a time, expanding on that, and repeating the process. It is a > long slow way to get to know anything, but once you get there, you > really do know everything in intimate detail. > Let it tell me this way. I have a neighbour who has a Ph.D. in biology. If she would give me the same answer when it comes to gardening, I would stop gardening as I do not want to know the background. All I want to know is how I can get rid of a special kind of pest. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 01:16:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0765216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:16:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EEB43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1FuXf021777; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:15:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j5M1FtdW021774; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:15:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17080.48071.705585.35147@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:15:51 -0700 To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <42B69C30.6070603@dial.pipex.com> References: <42B69C30.6070603@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:16:08 -0000 >>>>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:36:32 +0100, >>>>> Alex Zbyslaw said: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> Sandy >>> Rutherford >>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:52 PM >>> >>> >>> In order to boost read performance, a RAID card should interleave >>> reading from a RAID-1 volume by reading alternately from one drive and >>> then the other. You can see this in alternate blinking of the >>> activity lights of the drives. If you are not seeing this when >>> copying a large file, then this would suggest that a RAID-1 volume is >>> not working as it should. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Incorrect. What you are describing is RAID-0. RAID-1 is mirroring. >> Here's >> >> > I don't think you read the message correctly. It said that *reads* were > interleaved not that the *data* was interleaved. That's exactly what I said. Thanks. Ted, I am aware that RAID 1 is mirroring. However, any proper implementation of RAID 1 should also boost read performance and if during a read you are not seeing activity on both drives in the RAID 1 volume, then I would say this is a good indication that something is wrong. Sandy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 03:02:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E2516A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:02:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rperry@gti.net) Received: from apollo.gti.net (apollo.gti.net [199.171.27.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630A043D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:02:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rperry@gti.net) Received: from homey.my.domain (morr0615.gti.net [208.216.122.15]) by apollo.gti.net (mail) with ESMTP id 7044436116; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:02:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Perry To: jpeg@thilelli.net In-Reply-To: <28717.145.248.192.30.1119363225.squirrel@webmail.thilelli.net> References: <1119335564.80965.39.camel@homey.my.domain> <42B81F9B.50608@celeritystorm.com> <28717.145.248.192.30.1119363225.squirrel@webmail.thilelli.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:04:12 -0400 Message-Id: <1119409452.80965.63.camel@homey.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: user@celeritystorm.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to decipher error "ELF binary type 3 not known" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:02:46 -0000 On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 16:13 +0200, Julien Gabel wrote: > >> Cvsup'd system last weekend but was unable to complete portupgrade due > >> to following error: > >> ELF binary type "3" not known > >> execution of expat-1.95.5_2 script failed, exit status 255 > >> ELF binary type "3" not known > >> /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > >> *** Error code 2 > >> > >> Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. > >> *** Error code 1 > >> > >> The error apears while system is upgrading linux-expat-1.95.5_2 to > >> linux-expat-1.95.5_3. The error continues: > >> Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. > >> ** Command failed [exitcode 1]: /usr/bin/script > >> -qa /tmp/portupgrade80885.59 make reinstall > >> egrep: /var/db/pkg/linux-expat-1.95.5_2/+CONTENTS: No such file > >> or directory > >> ---> Restoring the old version > >> ** Fix the installation problem and try again. > >> > >> Tried to deinstall/reinstall linux-expat-1.95.5_3 but received same > >> error. When I ran portupgrade -arR again, I received a Stale dependency > >> error recommending I manually run pkgdb -F to fix, or specify -O to > >> force. I run pkgdb -F and each package which had been skipped earlier > >> in the upgrade due to the original error now appear in Stale dependency > >> scripts asking if I want to replace linux-expat-1.95.5_2. The "score" > >> in the first stale dependency issue is only 31%. Nothing confuses me > >> more than dealing with stale dependencies so I tried reviewing mail > >> archives and googling for an answer. > >> > >> Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can resolve this error? > >> > >> FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0. > > > Have you installed linux_base-8 ? kernel module (linux.ko) loaded ? > > Forcing the reinstall of linux_base must solve this problem: > # portupgrade -f linux_base > I ran portupgrade -f linux_base-8 successfully and then ran portupgrade -arR. The system reports stale dependencies and suggest I manually run pkgdb -F to fix which I do. The first line of output reads: Stale dependency: acroread-5.10_1,1 -> linux-expat-1.95.5_2 (textproc/linux-expat): linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 (score:31%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) If I understand Michael Lucas' "Cleaning Up Ports", acroread has recorded linux-expat-1.95.5_2 as a dependency but linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 is installed and it's asking if I want to have the entry in /var/db/pkg point to linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 as the correct dependency. And the answer is, "Damned if I know." At this stage I would appreciate it if someone could point me towards an article or two which might shed some more light on how to make the appropriate decisions here. Thanks much for your responses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 03:04:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C82216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A9143D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:04:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 46AF0410F; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E6B4089 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:04:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050621230339.B8497@neptune.atopia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: FreeBSD dieing, now has died doing portsdb -uU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:04:45 -0000 Hi all, In relation to my previous post(s) (I no longer know the subject line), my freebsd mail server died again, this time while I was doinga portsdb -uU ... it got halfway through and crapped out. Any ideas would help as we're kind of in the middle of a mail transfer, Regards, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 03:12:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366B316A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:12:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from troyg@digitek-solutions.com) Received: from mx1.digitek-solutions.com (mx1.digitek-solutions.com [69.45.225.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8B0343D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:12:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from troyg@digitek-solutions.com) Received: (qmail 81759 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 03:11:06 -0000 Received: from cable-66-190-210-97.sli.la.charter.com (HELO ?192.168.0.8?) (66.190.210.97) by mx1.digitek-solutions.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 03:11:06 -0000 Message-ID: <42B8D72C.1080609@digitek-solutions.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:12:44 -0500 From: "Troy G." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Possible Attack? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:12:31 -0000 Hi all, I was going through a few servers tonight and came across this in /var/log/messages. This particular server functions mainly as our primary webserver. Its running FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE. I decided to take a closer look to see what was generating these entries by loading up trafshow. I noticed quite a bit of icmp requests coming in. I created an access-list on the cisco and filtered icmp to this host and the messages kept logging. It's obvious I didn't see any icmp anymore on the server but is this system under a heavy load? I dont see the load being that high according to top. Any suggestions? Jun 21 21:50:55 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 230 to 200 packets per second Jun 21 21:51:23 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 222 to 200 packets per second Jun 21 21:53:02 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 230 to 200 packets per second TIA, Troy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 03:31:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9A016A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:31:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153D643D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:31:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M3UwVX003031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:30:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5M3UvuT087574; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:30:57 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:30:57 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506220330.j5M3UvuT087574@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: troyg@digitek-solutions.com In-reply-to: <42B8D72C.1080609@digitek-solutions.com> (troyg@digitek-solutions.com) References: <42B8D72C.1080609@digitek-solutions.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible Attack? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:31:06 -0000 > Jun 21 21:50:55 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 230 > to 200 packets per second > Jun 21 21:51:23 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 222 > to 200 packets per second > Jun 21 21:53:02 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 230 > to 200 packets per second That is a guy scanning your machine a bit too fast, or a tentative of DoS. If the problem persis, run tcpdump on that machine to try to locate the source. A tentative connection to an unexisting service should return such RST packet, from host amanda I tried to connect TCP 27 on the host sysl, on the host sysl I can see: sysl44: tcpdump host amanda tcpdump: listening on fxp0 10:27:39.891050 amanda.xx.yy.net.1758 > sysl.xx.yy.net.nsw-fe: S 3520569314:3520569314(0) win 57344 (DF) [tos 0x10] 10:27:39.891122 sysl.xx.yy.net.nsw-fe > amanda.xx.yy.net.1758: R 0:0(0) ack 3520569315 win 0 The second packet it the RST Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 03:43:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B538116A41C; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:43:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5920543D53; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:43:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22718279 for multiple; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:25:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:45:11 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Message-ID: <20050621224511.7416ac57@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 34, in=44, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:43:52 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:05:32 -0700 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Fafa Hafiz > >Krantz > >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:56 PM > >To: questions@freebsd.org; advocacy@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > > > > > > > >Hello. > > > >Thank you all for everything so far. > > > >But I am not looking for comparisons. > > > >I am looking for stuff that has been written so that people can > >understand. > > > >Let's say this: > > > >Multi-threaded SMP architecture capable of executing the kernel > >in parallel on multiple processors, and with kernel preemption, > >allowing high priority kernel tasks to preempt other kernel > >activity, reducing latency. This includes a multi-threaded > >network stack and a multi-threaded virtual memory subsystem. > >With FreeBSD 6.x, support for a fully parallel VFS allows the > >UFS file system to run on multiple processors simultaneously, > >permitting load sharing of CPU-intensive I/O optimization. > > > >In the real world, that ought to sound more like: > > > >FreeBSD includes support for symmetric multiprocessing and > >multithreading. This makes the kernel lock down levels of > >interfaces and buffers, minimizing the chance of threads on > >different processors blocking each other, to give maximum > >performance on multiprocessor systems. > > > > Fafa, I've seen these kinds of efforts before and they are all > generally doomed to failure. > > You see, the problem is that FreeBSD is not a general computer > operating system product. It is a very specific product in fact. > > Now, the USES that FreeBSD can be put to are VERY general. BUT, > do NOT make the mistake of confusing the fact that just because > FreeBSD can be put to general use, that somehow it is a general > product. It is not. > > FreeBSD is targeted at 2 main groups of people: > > 1) Very knowledgeable people who are using it for personal, or > in-house corporate projects. > > 2) Very knowledgeable people who are using it to construct > turnkey systems for customers who couldn't care less what is > under the hood. > > By contrast, Windows and Linux are in fact, general computer > operating system products. They are targeted at groups #1 and > #2, but they are also targeted at group #3 which are: > > 3) People who barely know how to push a button who have a problem > they need to fix with a computer operating system, and they > really don't care if they understand how the fix works as long > as it works. > > > This gives rise to a rather serious Catch-22 with FreeBSD: > > You need to really understand intimately how FreeBSD works > and how computer software that runs on it works in order to > get it to work well enough for you to learn intimately how it > works. Nah, you can be willing to learn as well. FreeBSD was my first venture in to the world of UNIX. My choice was I found finding info on it easier than Linux and I had some one willing to teach me. > Windows and Linux solved this Catch-22 by dumbing-down the > interface to their operating systems. Thus, an ignoramus > can get up and running with both of these systems, and that > person can remain fat, dumb, and happy, completely ignorant > of what he is doing, and those systems will still work enough > to get the job done. It may be a half-assed fix, but it is > better than nothing. Not in the case of FreeBSD. In the case of FreeBSD, it would be a bad idea. It would result in a lot of badly supported users. It can be done, but with a system based on FreeBSD, with a something layed over it to help those people out. Ignorant useless users should be supported by commercial ventures, not community ones. They will just drag the community down with their weight if they don't help out. > FreeBSD by contrast, long ago decided not to do this. For > starters, if you dumbed-down the FreeBSD interface, then to > most people FreeBSD wouldn't be any different than Linux > or Windows, so why mess with it? But, most importantly, a > dumbed-down interface gets in the way of a knowledgeable person, > and over time becomes a tremendous liability. > > With FreeBSD, the only way that a newbie can break the Catch-22 is > old-fashioned mental elbow grease. In short, by learning a bit > at a time, expanding on that, and repeating the process. It is a > long slow way to get to know anything, but once you get there, you > really do know everything in intimate detail. I found the handbook to be useful in this area. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 04:08:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A0216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:08:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F8943D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:08:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j5M48F11058685; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:08:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:08:15 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: "Troy G." Message-ID: <20050622040815.GA49171@dan.emsphone.com> References: <42B8D72C.1080609@digitek-solutions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B8D72C.1080609@digitek-solutions.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible Attack? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:08:34 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 21), Troy G. said: > I was going through a few servers tonight and came across this in > /var/log/messages. This particular server functions mainly as our > primary webserver. Its running FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE. I decided to > take a closer look to see what was generating these entries by > loading up trafshow. I noticed quite a bit of icmp requests coming > in. I created an access-list on the cisco and filtered icmp to this > host and the messages kept logging. It's obvious I didn't see any > icmp anymore on the server but is this system under a heavy load? I > dont see the load being that high according to top. Any suggestions? > > Jun 21 21:50:55 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 230 to 200 packets per second > Jun 21 21:51:23 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 222 to 200 packets per second > Jun 21 21:53:02 mx1 /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 230 to 200 packets per second These don't have anything to do with incoming ICMP packets. They are notices that something is trying to access ports that nothing is listening on, and the kernel is rate-limiting the number of "ICMP port unreachable" messages it's sending. You don't want to filter ICMP, since that will break PMTUD ( http://pmtud.rfc822.org ) and annoys people trying to traceroute to your webserver. If you don't currently have any other ACLs at your router, you're most likely seeing the usual background internet traffic (portscans from compromised machines mainly). It's best to block all incoming TCP or UDP traffic except for the ones you want people to see (80/tcp if it's just a webserver). Depending on what version of IOS you're running, you may have the IOS Firewall feature set, which is easy to configure from the web interface. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 04:11:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A4216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:11:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211EB43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M4BQOs004497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:11:27 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5M4BQ6G087888; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:11:26 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:11:26 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506220411.j5M4BQ6G087888@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: Subject: Using regex(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:11:30 -0000 Hi, I must missunderstand how to use regex(3). >From what I read in the man page, pmatch[i].rm_so is the begining of the i-th match in the regular expression and pmatch[i].rm-so is the end. So if I try to match the regex "a(.)c" on the string "abc" I should have: pamtch[1].rm_so=1 and pmatch[1].rm_eo=2, that is matching the substring "b". I have run the short programm as follow: #include #include #include main() { int ret; regex_t *preg; size_t nmatch; regmatch_t * pmatch; char * buffer="a(.)c"; char * string="abc"; preg=(regex_t*)malloc(sizeof(regex_t)); if(preg==NULL) exit(-1); ret=regcomp(preg, buffer, REG_EXTENDED); printf("number of substrings=%d\n", preg->re_nsub); pmatch=(regmatch_t *)malloc(5000); /* make it big enough */ if (pmatch==NULL) exit(-1); nmatch=0; ret=regexec(preg, string, nmatch, pmatch, 0); printf("return from regexec=%d\nnmatch=%d\np0.so=%d p0.eo=%d\np1.so=%d p1.eo=%d\np2.so=%d p2.eo=%d\np3.so=%d p3.eo=%d\n", ret, nmatch, pmatch[0].rm_so, pmatch[0].rm_eo, pmatch[1].rm_so, pmatch[1].rm_eo, pmatch[2].rm_so, pmatch[2].rm_eo, pmatch[3].rm_so, pmatch[3].rm_eo ); nmatch=1; ret=regexec(preg, string, nmatch, pmatch, 0); printf("return from regexec=%d\nnmatch=%d\np0.so=%d p0.eo=%d\np1.so=%d p1.eo=%d\np2.so=%d p2.eo=%d\np3.so=%d p3.eo=%d\n", ret, nmatch, pmatch[0].rm_so, pmatch[0].rm_eo, pmatch[1].rm_so, pmatch[1].rm_eo, pmatch[2].rm_so, pmatch[2].rm_eo, pmatch[3].rm_so, pmatch[3].rm_eo ); nmatch=2; ret=regexec(preg, string, nmatch, pmatch, 0); printf("return from regexec=%d\nnmatch=%d\np0.so=%d p0.eo=%d\np1.so=%d p1.eo=%d\np2.so=%d p2.eo=%d\np3.so=%d p3.eo=%d\n", ret, nmatch, pmatch[0].rm_so, pmatch[0].rm_eo, pmatch[1].rm_so, pmatch[1].rm_eo, pmatch[2].rm_so, pmatch[2].rm_eo, pmatch[3].rm_so, pmatch[3].rm_eo ); } And the results I get are: banyan33: ./test number of substrings=1 return from regexec=0 nmatch=0 p0.so=0 p0.eo=0 p1.so=0 p1.eo=0 p2.so=0 p2.eo=0 p3.so=0 p3.eo=0 return from regexec=0 nmatch=1 p0.so=0 p0.eo=0 p1.so=3 p1.eo=0 p2.so=0 p2.eo=0 p3.so=0 p3.eo=0 return from regexec=0 nmatch=2 p0.so=0 p0.eo=0 p1.so=3 p1.eo=0 p2.so=1 p2.eo=0 p3.so=2 p3.eo=0 banyan34: Both on 4.10 releng and 5.3 releng, rm_eo is always empty and the result is pushed in the next rm_so. Any help appreciated. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 04:38:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A0716A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:38:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C5C143D58 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:38:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 16616 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 04:38:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by salvador with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 04:38:39 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050622043838.XADF28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:38:38 +0800 Message-ID: <42B8EAE0.6050809@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:36:48 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vulpes Velox References: <20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050621224511.7416ac57@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050621224511.7416ac57@vixen42.local.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:38:42 -0000 Hi, Vulpes Velox wrote: > Ignorant useless users should be supported by commercial ventures, > not community ones. They will just drag the community down with their > weight if they don't help out. > This would be the real tough one. There should also be a way to write some kind of descripton for the people between. > I found the handbook to be useful in this area. Yes, if you understand it. It is written be serious IT professionals for serious IT professionals. Even a serious none IT professional has problems understanding it. Our problem is that we all do not know the people who would speak the language none IT professionals understand. The original writer sounds like being skilled enough to have serious try on this one if he gets the information he needs for this. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 05:39:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1020716A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:39:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jjvaughan@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95C343D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:39:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jjvaughan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so112748wra for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:39:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RxmF6i0jUJyErrzwYAzStHXBTlkeCJwjzUXnMTtu+VxCLTt7AraS3kmMYkmQn3jmZR8ByVrJip5f/+gjsUtazZzp6fZC3ni80ReSwxz8sg/r+x10ow4nEUGEHbc89bEVrY6gQC/RzHRbwuWDxGZbA7dfQXb7h4HiswjayFtH+Fs= Received: by 10.54.73.12 with SMTP id v12mr242251wra; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.106.20 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:39:01 -0400 From: John Vaughan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1608562575.20050622004706@rulez.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <000001c576b1$df536280$2d00a8c0@phobos> <1608562575.20050622004706@rulez.sk> Subject: Re: Re[2]: 5.4 Installation Problems on Dell GX280 - Fatal trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Vaughan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:39:02 -0000 Thanks Stuart for reminding me of my alternative install options.=20 I'll try installing over serial tomorrow. I've never had to install off anything but a CD, so it will be a good learning experience for me anyway. Now to just dig out that old 486 and track down a Null modem cable. . . . Daniel, I'm still a little stumped why you were able to install 5.4 on a GX280 without any problems. Maybe there is some slight variation in the Dell systems even though they are the same model #. Who knows?=20 Or maybe a slight difference in our BIOS configs. At least there is a workaround - if not a very convient one. -John =20 > > I've had a nightmare trying to get 5.4 (also tried 5.3) to work on a > > Dell GX280 - which had exactly the same problem. In the end, I ended up > > using a serial link to get the install done and then got inetd setup so > > that I could troubleshoot over the network. >=20 > > This didn't help long term as the keyboard didn't work once I'd > > restarted after finishing the install. I stumbled on this script which > > seemed to do the trick: >=20 > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-October/02277= 1 > > .html >=20 > > I used telnet to get at rc.conf - but there probably are other better > > ways. >=20 > > It seems a shame that Dell (and other manufacturers) are phasing out ol= d > > 'legacy' hardware like the good ol' PS/2 ports. It's just a good job > > that they didn't kill the serial port on this particular machine! (yet) >=20 > that sux, indeed :-( >=20 > > Hope this helps, > > Stuart >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Vaughan [mailto:jjvaughan@gmail.com] > > Sent: 21 June 2005 22:10 > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: 5.4 Installation Problems on Dell GX280 - Fatal trap 12 >=20 > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 on a Dell GX280 and am getting a > > Fatal trap 12 supervisor write, page not present error. From what > > I've read, this is an ACPI problem which I could disable if I had a > > PS2 port, but the GX280 doesn't have them. Has anyone gotten 5.4 to > > run properly on a GX280 using option 7 to boot with usb keyboard? >=20 > > -John >=20 > So long, I can say that I'm able to use gx280 on 5.4. I was able to > install it from CD with usb keyboard using option 7 - boot with usb > keyboard. No fatal trap 12. The only problem I had is that I wan't > able to use HTT. >=20 > (but it was my fault I think :-) and since it is considered to be > harmful and it doesn't really boost up machine's performance, I'm > not solving it.) >=20 > -- > Best Regards, >=20 > DanGer, ICQ: 261701668 | e-mail protecting at: http://www.2pu.net/ > http://danger.rulez.sk | proxy list at: http://www.proxy-web.com= / > | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! >=20 > [ Fight Crime: Don't dial 911, shoot back!! ] >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 06:40:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB82D16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:40:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF8D43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:40:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:40:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:40:24 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050622064024.GA19456@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: cloning with nfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:40:32 -0000 Yesterday I ruined my partition table on one of my machines. Luckely this machine was almost an exact copy of another that still is running fine. So, I can follow the procedure of copying one disk to another (following the handbook). But this requires a fysical removal / action on the machines and harddisks witch I don't want to do if not needed. I did a minimal install on the crashed machine (#B) If disk'cloning' can be done through NFS that'll be the way to go for me. Will it be enough to export /var /usr /tmp and / (#B) to mountpoints on machine #A and then follow the 'normal' dump/restore procedure mentioned in the handbook? Or are there side_effects and will fysical placement of the 'new' drive in machine #A be the right way to do it? Thanks for any advice. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 06:48:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E226C16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E6243D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:48:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M6m0N9022465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:48:00 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5M6m0XI089322; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:48:00 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:48:00 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506220648.j5M6m0XI089322@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: on@cs.ait.ac.th In-reply-to: <200506220411.j5M4BQ6G087888@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> (message from Olivier Nicole on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:11:26 +0700 (ICT)) References: <200506220411.j5M4BQ6G087888@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using regex(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:48:06 -0000 > I must missunderstand how to use regex(3). To add a bit, running the same program on Linux gives the expected results: regexpr=a(.)c number of substrings=1 return from regexec=0 nmatch=0 p0.so=0 p0.eo=0 p1.so=0 p1.eo=0 p2.so=0 p2.eo=0 p3.so=0 p3.eo=0 return from regexec=0 nmatch=1 p0.so=0 p0.eo=3 p1.so=0 p1.eo=0 p2.so=0 p2.eo=0 p3.so=0 p3.eo=0 return from regexec=0 nmatch=2 p0.so=0 p0.eo=3 p1.so=1 p1.eo=2 p2.so=0 p2.eo=0 p3.so=0 p3.eo=0 Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 07:09:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AEA16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (ns.bitdefender.com [217.156.83.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44F143D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: (qmail 6885 invoked by uid 1010); 22 Jun 2005 10:01:39 +0300 Received: from apircalabu.dsd.ro (10.10.15.22) by mail.bitdefender.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 10:01:39 +0300 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:10:31 +0300 From: Adi Pircalabu To: "M" Message-ID: <20050622101031.1560ebe9@apircalabu.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: <000601c576a5$c5f31210$6401a8c0@hplaptop> References: <000601c576a5$c5f31210$6401a8c0@hplaptop> Organization: BitDefender X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: 1.1.4 049000040111AABAAAE X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender Qmail 1.6.2 on mail.bitdefender.com X-BitDefender-Spam: No (8) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:09:03 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:11:21 +0200 "M" wrote: > I tried to boot some FreeBSD CD's on a Compaq/HP nx9110 laptop (5.4- > i386-disc1.iso, 4.9-i386-disc1.iso Every time i have the same > result : after the boot, the laptop shutdown whitout any message Hi, When the boot menu appears, try this: - escape to loader prompt - set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" - set hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x9" - boot The above helped me when installing FreeBSD-5.4 on my NX9105. Cheers -- Adi Pircalabu (PGP Key ID 0x04329F5E) -- This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender. For more information please visit http://www.bitdefender.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 07:26:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479A216A41C; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61A443D1F; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M7Q8b24434; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:26:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erich Dollansky" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:25:03 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B8B749.2090500@pacific.net.sg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:26:27 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:oceanare@pacific.net.sg] >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:57 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz; questions@freebsd.org; advocacy@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > > >I do not think that it the design of Windows which makes it target. It >is the kind of support people with no knowledge get which makes it. People pay for Windows, not for FreeBSD. The support structures are totally different because of this. If support is what hinges on getting the "no knowledge" people on board, then you may as well give up now because your never going to be able to fund the kind of support structure Windows has from FreeBSD. >> >> This gives rise to a rather serious Catch-22 with FreeBSD: >> >> You need to really understand intimately how FreeBSD works >> and how computer software that runs on it works in order to >> get it to work well enough for you to learn intimately how it >> works. >> >I do not think so. > >If people with no knowledge would get proper answers when they run into >problems instead of the hint to read the manual would help a lot here. > Why should they? If they were paying someone for FreeBSD support that is one thing. Nobody is getting paid to answer questions on the mailing list and on Usenet, if a no-knowledge person asks a question that is answered in the manual, then it is going overboard already, to even tell them to RTFM. They really shouldn't be asking questions if they haven't RTFMed. >> >What is the difference to FreeBSD if the system is running once? > Bringing a large number of ignoramuses on board who are dedicated to continuing to be ignoramuses, does not help the FreeBSD project at all. It may help some people making money off servicing those people, but otherwise they are deadweight. You know, even raw newbies who have RTFM can help the FreeBSD project by answering posts on the support forums with pointers to the manual!! >There is no need for an interface like this if the people starting with >no computer knowledge would get proper help just to get the machine up >and running. > Proper help is in the manual, it is in my book, and in Greg Lehey's book, and in several other books written by a number of people. My book is in the local public library, check it out! So, I believe, is Greg's. The official manual is online. There are hundreds of web pages that people have setup regarding FreeBSD installation that come up with Google. I am sorry you are going to have to do better than that. The proper help is out there, you just have to spend a little effort looking for it. >Let it tell me this way. I have a neighbour who has a Ph.D. in biology. >If she would give me the same answer when it comes to >gardening, I would >stop gardening as I do not want to know the background. All I want to >know is how I can get rid of a special kind of pest. > I can only ask why do you bother to garden in the first place? Without that background, you don't know why the pesticide that she recommends works. And next season if it doesen't work, you don't know why either. It's like the saying "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" You just want the fish - I want to feed myself for the rest of my life. Sadly, your attitude is one of the reasons that the United States is being run into the ground by a bunch of religious conservatives these days. Those people are just like you - they don't want to know anything about Stem Cell research, they just want to be told whether it's bad or not. Honestly, before you knock it, you should try to understand how the world works sometime. It's really a better way to live. Do you really want to die like your distant ancestors did - not knowing why the rain falls, or the wind blows, or the sun and moon rise and set? Should the human species strive for an advanced technological society where all the members have absolutely no clue as to how anything they use in their daily life even works? Are we to become a society of infants, with the machines taking care of us because we do not understand how they operate? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 07:30:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C3816A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:30:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ut@bhi-hamburg.de) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3358743D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:30:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ut@bhi-hamburg.de) Received: from schweinkram.pleach-hamburg.de (p548ED273.dip.t-dialin.net [84.142.210.115]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7B1BA67; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by schweinkram.pleach-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423C36A8D6A; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:29:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from by localhost (amavisd-new, port ) id bMOdgQEq; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by schweinkram.pleach-hamburg.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id B75016A8D4A; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (remote1.pleach-hamburg.de [192.168.1.31]) by schweinkram.pleach-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB676A5E3D; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:28:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B91313.9050807@bhi-hamburg.de> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:28:19 +0200 From: Titus von Boxberg User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <200506220411.j5M4BQ6G087888@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200506220411.j5M4BQ6G087888@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on schweinkram.pleach-hamburg.de X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=no version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pleach-hamburg.de Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using regex(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:30:59 -0000 Olivier Nicole schrieb: > Hi, > > I must missunderstand how to use regex(3). no, you're misunderstanding regoff_t or printf. it's a 64 bit type. thus your printf should read: ret=regexec(preg, string, nmatch, pmatch, 0); printf("return from regexec=%d\nnmatch=%d\np0.so=%lld p0.eo=%lld\np1.so=%lld p1.eo=%lld\np2.so=%lld p2.eo=%lld\np3.so=%lld p3.eo=%lld\n", ret, nmatch, pmatch[0].rm_so, pmatch[0].rm_eo, pmatch[1].rm_so, pmatch[1].rm_eo, pmatch[2].rm_so, pmatch[2].rm_eo, pmatch[3].rm_so, pmatch[3].rm_eo ); regards titus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 07:34:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35A116A41C; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8785243D55; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M7Zqb24472; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erich Dollansky" , "Vulpes Velox" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:34:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B8EAE0.6050809@pacific.net.sg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:34:57 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:oceanare@pacific.net.sg] >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:37 PM >To: Vulpes Velox >Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; questions@freebsd.org; advocacy@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > > >Hi, > >Vulpes Velox wrote: > >> Ignorant useless users should be supported by commercial ventures, >> not community ones. They will just drag the community down with their >> weight if they don't help out. >> >This would be the real tough one. > >There should also be a way to write some kind of descripton for the >people between. > >> I found the handbook to be useful in this area. > >Yes, if you understand it. It is written be serious IT >professionals for >serious IT professionals. Even a serious none IT professional has >problems understanding it. > Then read one of the many FreeBSD books. The one by Annelise Anderson is most certainly not written for serious IT professionals. I know because I have read it. >Our problem is that we all do not know the people who would speak the >language none IT professionals understand. > No, your problem is that you are confusing TRAINING with INSTRUCTION. The FreeBSD project has an obligation to provide instructions with the system. That, they do. But they do not have an obligation to provide training, nor does any company for their product. Even Microsoft charges extra for that. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 07:38:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0603616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:38:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from host78.ipowerweb.com (host78.ipowerweb.com [66.235.200.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE7643D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:38:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from c-67-190-22-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.190.22.43] helo=electricblue) by host78.ipowerweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DkzoS-00023K-Vy; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:38:26 -0700 From: "Brian Duke" To: "'Craig Kleski'" , Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:37:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcV2rf3VzbDCFadMSH26DHr2u0JtvwABebDwABIrzpA= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host78.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - box201.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20050622073827.DBE7643D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: RE: BTX loader fails on Gateway ALR 9200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:38:28 -0000 > > Please give freebsd version. Also, what other operating systems have > > failed to load for you? How exactly does the boot fail? Any error > > messages? Describe in detail. > > > > I have an abundance of information all I need to know is what to say that > will help. > > The OS I am loading is currently FreeBSD 5.3 > I went to adaptec and found some information about FreeBSD 4.11 so I > tried. > I can get Solaris 10 to load but it fails to find the raid as a valid > drive. > Fedora Core 2 also boots and says it can't find a drive. > The Raid boots up fine and builds with no faults. > > When I install a little 850 meg IDE drive and set that to master, > Still the btx loader dies. Here is what the final screen says: > > /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x3fbfc data=0x1c04+0x112c > syms=[0x4+0x72f0+0x4+0x97c7] > / > int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030002 eip=00005755 > eax=00000001 ebx=00000008 ecx=000039ff edx=00000082 > esi=0000579c edi=0000e873 edi=000003ba esp=0000037e > cs=f000 ds=0040 es=f000 fs=9dc0 gs=f000 ss=9c46 > cs:eip=2e 0f 01 14 0f 20 c0 0c-01 0f 22 c0 eb 00 8e db > 8e c3 8e e3 8e eb 0f 20-c0 24 fc 0f 22 c0 ea 78 > ss:esp=11 64 08 00 01 00 00 00-00 f0 c0 9d 02 02 51 e8 > 05 00 c2 ee 05 00 00 f0-00 00 1a 7d c4 5e dd e6 > BTX Halted > > I think I copied all that correctly. > Has anyone got a quick idea why this fails right off? Does this mean I need to set the same flags as what Adi Pircalabu suggested in the "help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thread? " When the boot menu appears, try this: - escape to loader prompt - set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" - set hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x9" - boot" Would this help me? In this case I'm lost here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 07:50:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B3E16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:50:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DA743D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:50:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ABA0956423; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:50:39 +1200 (NZST) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:50:39 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Matt Juszczak Message-ID: <20050622075039.GH33633@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050621230339.B8497@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050621230339.B8497@neptune.atopia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD dieing, now has died doing portsdb -uU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:50:42 -0000 On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:04:44PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: > Hi all, > > In relation to my previous post(s) (I no longer know the subject line), > my freebsd mail server died again, this time while I was doinga portsdb > -uU ... it got halfway through and crapped out. Check your hardware for overheating, power-supply problems and flakey memory chips. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone" - Al Capone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 07:59:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EF116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:59:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tos@teleplan.no) Received: from mailbox.teleplan.no (mailbox.Teleplan.no [213.88.185.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B8CD43D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:59:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tos@teleplan.no) Received: from TPN-MAIL.Teleplan.no ([172.25.25.50]) by mailbox.teleplan.no (SMSSMTP 4.1.0.19) with SMTP id M2005062209590400947 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:59:04 +0200 Received: from 172.25.150.34 ([172.25.150.34]) by TPN-MAIL.Teleplan.no ([172.25.25.50]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:59:04 +0000 Received: from tos.teleplan.no by tpn-mail; 22 Jun 2005 09:59:04 +0200 From: Tom Skoglund To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050620124314.HYSE16988.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@tos> References: <20050620124314.HYSE16988.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@tos> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:59:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1119427144.717.15.camel@tos.teleplan.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: RE: Release build problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:59:09 -0000 Just a quick mental blowout...even if I knew the CD layout had changed I completely forgot that the release (7) manpage I was reading was a machine running...*blush*...5.3, and hence had the old layout. As soon as I discovered that it only took a few minutes to fix :) Cheers, Tom On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 14:45 +0200, Tom Skoglund wrote: > Just bumping this to see if someone out there might have a clue. > Check the archive or something to find the mail with the scripts and log. > > Cheers, > Tom > [..] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 08:00:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186A516A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:00:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2A043D5C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:00:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M81Db24571; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sandy Rutherford" , "Alex Zbyslaw" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:00:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <17080.48071.705585.35147@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:00:29 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sandy >Rutherford >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:16 PM >To: Alex Zbyslaw >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt >Subject: Re: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) > > >>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:36:32 +0100, >>>>>> Alex Zbyslaw said: > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>> Sandy > >>> Rutherford > >>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:52 PM > >>> > >>> > >>> In order to boost read performance, a RAID card should interleave > >>> reading from a RAID-1 volume by reading alternately from >one drive and > >>> then the other. You can see this in alternate blinking of the > >>> activity lights of the drives. If you are not seeing this when > >>> copying a large file, then this would suggest that a >RAID-1 volume is > >>> not working as it should. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Incorrect. What you are describing is RAID-0. RAID-1 is mirroring. > >> Here's > >> > >> > > I don't think you read the message correctly. It said that >*reads* were > > interleaved not that the *data* was interleaved. > >That's exactly what I said. Thanks. > >Ted, I am aware that RAID 1 is mirroring. However, any proper >implementation of RAID 1 should also boost read performance and if >during a read you are not seeing activity on both drives in the RAID 1 >volume, then I would say this is a good indication that something is >wrong. > OK, I didn't bother replying earlier but now your both chiming in so I'll kill 2 birds with one stone I guess. First of all you didn't say "seeing activity on both drives in the RAID 1 volume" It's a cute attempt at a save on your part, but it is not what I said was wrong with your statement. You actually said: "a RAID card should interleave reading from a RAID-1 volume by reading alternately from one drive and then the other. You can see this in alternate blinking of the activity lights of the drives." I said that is incorrect with RAID-1 because it is. And I will explain why. With a RAID-1 card, mirroring, there are 2 ways to setup reads. The first way makes the assumption that you are mirroring purely for fault tolerance. In that case you would NOT see a ANY read from the second disk. The reason is that every time you read you move the heads, and the more head movement the quicker the disk wears out. Placing exactly the same amount of head movement on both disks means that if you setup a mirror with new disks of the same model, which is pretty much how most people do it, the MTBF on both disks is the same, and if you put equal activity on both disks your making a very good chance that they will fail at the same time, or very close to the same time. Thus, for an optimal fault tolerance you would favor the first disk. You cannot do that with writes into a mirror, of course, since both drives must be updated. But you can do it with reads - you just read only from the first disk. Thus the first disk will most likely fail first, and the second disk will most likely not fail very close to the time that the first one fails. Thus the admin has maximum time to get a replacement disk in there. So much for the first way. The second way on a mirror is to try to setup reads to enhance speed in addition to fault tolerance. With this setup you interleave reads. You read a few blocks from the first disk, then a few blocks from the second, then a few blocks from the first, etc. etc. However, the kicker is that you do this AT THE SAME TIME. The disk heads are both continuiously reading, because the read speed of the heads are so much slower than the time it takes to move the data out of the drive and into main memory, that each disk is 'running dry' so fast that by alternating the read, your giving the drive a chance to catch up. So there is never a time the head isn't either reading or seeking for the next read, thus the disk drive lights are going to be both on solid at the same time. They will not be "alternate blinking" Indeed, if they really are alternating back and forth, then your read throughput will be no higher than a continuious read from a single disk. The ONLY time your going to see "alternate blinking" on a read is in a stripe set, RAID-0. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 08:20:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D7B16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:20:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1CF43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:20:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F4860DA; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 43440-04; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:20:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F06F60D8; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:20:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42B91F47.7020207@makeworld.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:20:23 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <20050621230339.B8497@neptune.atopia.net> <20050622075039.GH33633@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20050622075039.GH33633@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.3.1 (20050509) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Cc: Matt Juszczak , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD dieing, now has died doing portsdb -uU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:20:27 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:04:44PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>In relation to my previous post(s) (I no longer know the subject line), >>my freebsd mail server died again, this time while I was doinga portsdb >>-uU ... it got halfway through and crapped out. > > > Check your hardware for overheating, power-supply problems and flakey > memory chips. Agreed - we may indeed find out he's running an AMD. Can we say HOT?! -- Best regards, Chris The man who has no more problems is out of the game. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 08:32:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAD916A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) Received: from mail89.messagelabs.com (mail89.messagelabs.com [194.106.220.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AC3A43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:32:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-89.messagelabs.com!1119429144!2526455!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.15; banners=dwp.gsi.gov.uk,-,- X-Originating-IP: [62.25.106.208] Received: (qmail 14173 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 08:32:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.hosting-w.gsi.gov.uk) (62.25.106.208) by server-11.tower-89.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 08:32:24 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:29:59 +0100 Message-Id: Thread-Topic: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... Thread-Index: AcV2i+fO4mQmj8AQTPq7EcMjEfwPWAAdD7YAAAERA6A= From: "Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 08:29:58.0737 (UTC) FILETIME=[93743C10:01C57704] MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Clearswift ES version 4.8.1.149) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:32:27 -0000 >=20-----Original=20Message----- >=20From:=20Roland=20Smith=20[mailto:rsmith@xs4all.nl] >=20Sent:=2021=20June=202005=2019:07 >=20To:=20Harrison=20Peter=20CSA=20BIRKENHEAD >=20Cc:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >=20Subject:=20Re:=20-DNOPROFILE=20with=20make=20buildworld... >=20 >=20 >=20On=20Tue,=20Jun=2021,=202005=20at=2001:49:06PM=20+0100,=20Harrison=20P= eter=20CSA=20 >=20BIRKENHEAD=20wrote: >=20 >=20>=20I've=20cvsup'ed=20my=20source=20tree,=20and=20stepping=20through=20= the=20 >=20instructions=20in >=20>=20the=20handbook=20I=20note=20that=20it=20recommends=20running=20mak= e=20buildworld=20with >=20>=20-DNOPROFILE=20(or=20specifying=20it=20in=20make.conf).=20I'm=20not= =20clear=20what=20the >=20>=20impact=20of=20running=20profiled=20libraries=20is=20against=20non-= profiled >=20>=20libraries.=20I've=20done=20a=20quick=20search=20via=20google=20and= =20through=20the=20list >=20>=20archives=20without=20success. >=20 >=20It's=20not=20about=20profiled=20libraries,=20but=20profiling=20librari= es.=20 >=20Let=20me=20explain. >=20 >=20Programs=20that=20are=20compiled=20with=20profiling=20enabled=20gather= =20data=20about >=20their=20run-time=20behaviour,=20and=20write=20that=20to=20a=20file,=20= usualy=20 >=20gmon.out.=20If >=20the=20program=20is=20linked=20to=20a=20profiling=20library,=20data=20a= bout=20the=20 >=20time=20spent >=20running=20functions=20in=20that=20library=20are=20also=20recorded. >=20 >=20The=20contents=20of=20that=20file=20can=20be=20analyzed=20with=20the=20= gprof=20 >=20program,=20to=20see >=20where=20the=20program=20spends=20its=20time. >=20 >=20Now=20if=20you=20compile=20a=20program=20with=20not-profiling=20librar= ies,=20 >=20gprof=20cannot >=20tell=20you=20much=20about=20the=20time=20your=20program=20spent=20in=20= functions=20 >=20in=20that=20library. 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On=20leaving=20the=20GSi=20this=20email=20was=20certified=20virus-free From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 08:38:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF7416A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:38:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) Received: from codegurus.org (cpc2-stoc7-3-0-cust147.midd.cable.ntl.com [81.104.76.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BFB43D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:38:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) Received: from codegurus.org (codegurus.org [192.168.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by codegurus.org (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5M8bpXh082113 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:37:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) From: Mick Walker To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:37:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1119429470.78612.15.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: HTML Mail from Command Line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:38:36 -0000 Hi All, How can I send HTML mail from the command line with freeBSD. The command: cat design.HTML | mail -s "System Statistics" root Simply emails the HTML file as a text file, where the HTML code is clearly visible. What I want the to make the client see the content as HTML, and act accordingly. As I recall, when I have used other variants of *nix, the mail binary comes with a -a flag to specify the content type, this does not appear to be true with FreeBSD. Does anyone know how I can achieve this? -- Mick Walker Website: http://www.codegurus.org ICQ: 71032828 Y! Messenger: Materialised Random Quote: "Kirk to Enterprise -- beam down yeoman Rand and a six-pack." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 08:53:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D728416A41C; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED6B43D49; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M8sVb24790; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:54:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Stephan Weaver" , , Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:53:27 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Connecting My ADSL MODEM To My FreeBSD Pc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:53:30 -0000 Stephan, Have you tried setting up with userland ppp for PPPoE? A lot of DSL providers are unclear on the concept and label PPPoE (RFC 2516) installations as PPPoA (RFC 2364) and vis-versa. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Stephan Weaver >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:00 AM >To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Connecting My ADSL MODEM To My FreeBSD Pc. > > >Hello Friendly FreeBSD people. > >Let me get straight to the point. > >I am implimenting a FreeBSD Based Firewall. > >I have an ADSL Speedtouch 5200 Modem/Router, Currently Plugged into my >Switch. > >I want to connect the ADSL modem to my FreeBSD Firewall; >So that the FreeBSD Firewall will be creating a PPP connection >directly to >my ISP. >E.g., my vr0 interface will have a PUBLIC Internet Address (IF >Possible?). > > >My Isp Uses PPPoA, i used the instructions from the handbook; >Using 'mpd'. >I set the ADSL router in 'bridge' mode and connect the Ethernet cable >from the Dsl Router/Modem to my FreeBSD Firewall. ON the Interface vr0. > > >But i have little success getting the results i want. [The >Firewall doesn't >connect to my ISP] > > >Anyone willing to give me a clue? > >--------------------------------------- >Config stuff. >rc.conf >-- >#FireWall Stuff >#--------------- > >inetd_enable="NO" >sendmail_enable="NO" >sendmail_submit_enable="NO" >sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" >sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" >check_quotas="NO" > >gateway_enable="YES" >ipnat_enable="YES" >ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" > >ipfilter_enable="YES" >ipfilter_flags="" >ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" >ipmon_enable="YES" >ipmon_flags="-Dsn" > >#vr0 Connects to DSL MODEM >ifconfig_vr0="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" >#------------------------- >mpd.conf >default: > load adsl > >adsl: > new -i ng0 adsl adsl > set bundle authname USER****** > set bundle password PASS***[changed] > set bundle disable multilink > > set link no pap acfcomp protocomp > set link disable chap > set link accept chap > set link keep-alive 30 10 > > set ipcp no vjcomp > set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 > > set iface route default > set iface disable on-demand > set iface enable proxy-arp > set iface idle 0 > > open > >----------------- > >mpd.links >-- >adsl: > set link type pptp > set pptp mode active > set pptp enable originate outcall > set pptp self 192.168.0.1 > set pptp peer 192.168.0.254 >---------------- > > >192.168.0.1 = vr0 interface [ firewall ] >192.168.0.254 = dsl modem/router. > >Empty /etc/ipnat.rules; empty /etc/ipf.rules >------------------ > > >MPD.LOG >--- >Multi-link PPP for FreeBSD, by Archie L. Cobbs. >Based on iij-ppp, by Toshiharu OHNO. >mpd: pid 523, version 3.18 (root@pizzaboys.org 20:57 16-Jun-2005) >[adsl] ppp node is "mpd523-adsl" >set pptp mode: unknown command. Try "help". >[adsl] using interface ng0 >[adsl] IPCP: peer address cannot be zero >[adsl] IFACE: Open event >[adsl] IPCP: Open event >[adsl] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting >[adsl] IPCP: LayerStart >[adsl:adsl] [adsl] bundle: OPEN event in state CLOSED >[adsl] opening link "adsl"... >[adsl] link: OPEN event >[adsl] LCP: Open event >[adsl] LCP: state change Initial --> Starting >[adsl] LCP: LayerStart >[adsl] device: OPEN event in state DOWN >pptp0: connecting to 192.168.0.254:1723 >[adsl] device is now in state OPENING >pptp0: connection to 192.168.0.254:1723 failed >pptp0: killing connection with 192.168.0.254:1723 >pptp0-0: killing channel >[adsl] PPTP call failed >[adsl] device: DOWN event in state OPENING >[adsl] device is now in state DOWN >[adsl] link: DOWN event >[adsl] LCP: Down event >[adsl] device: OPEN event in state DOWN >[adsl] pausing 7 seconds before open >[adsl] device is now in state DOWN >----------------------------- >pptp.log >-=------=-=-=-=-= >pizzaboys# 192.168.0.254 adsl >anon warn[open_inetsock:pptp_callmgr.c:311]: connect: Connection refused >anon fatal[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:123]: Could not open control >connection >to 192.168.0.254 >----- >pptp / ppp.conf file >pizzaboys# less /etc/ppp/ppp.conf >adsl: >set log phase chat lcp ipcp ccp tun command >set timeout 0 >enable dns >set authname USER(***** >set authkey PASSWD**** >set ifaddr 0 0 >add default HISADDR > > >Regards, >Stephan Weaver. > >stephanweaver@hotmail.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today >it's FREE! >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 08:55:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADBA16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:55:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B32643D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:55:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M8ulb24813; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:56:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mick Walker" , Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:55:42 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1119429470.78612.15.camel@codegurus.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: HTML Mail from Command Line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:55:47 -0000 pipe it through mimencode and do other massaging to it. You do realize HTML mail is not standardized, don't you? Send yourself a few HTML mails from something like Outlook and you can examine the structure and see what is missing and what you have to do to make it look the same. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mick Walker >Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:38 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: HTML Mail from Command Line > > >Hi All, > >How can I send HTML mail from the command line with freeBSD. > >The command: >cat design.HTML | mail -s "System Statistics" root > >Simply emails the HTML file as a text file, where the HTML code is >clearly visible. What I want the to make the client see the content as >HTML, and act accordingly. > >As I recall, when I have used other variants of *nix, the mail binary >comes with a -a flag to specify the content type, this does not appear >to be true with FreeBSD. > >Does anyone know how I can achieve this? > >-- >Mick Walker >Website: http://www.codegurus.org >ICQ: 71032828 >Y! Messenger: Materialised > >Random Quote: >"Kirk to Enterprise -- beam down yeoman Rand and a six-pack." >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:03:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC1016A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:03:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) Received: from mail89.messagelabs.com (mail89.messagelabs.com [194.106.220.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 404BA43D5E for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:03:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-89.messagelabs.com!1119431017!2521562!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.15; banners=dwp.gsi.gov.uk,-,- X-Originating-IP: [195.92.40.48] Received: (qmail 18693 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 09:03:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.hosting-e.gsi.gov.uk) (195.92.40.48) by server-6.tower-89.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 09:03:37 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:46:11 +0100 Message-Id: Thread-Topic: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... Thread-Index: AcV2jmUn47+GD3MmR5e7OlA5nDX2TwAcvmTA From: "Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD" To: "Chuck Swiger" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 08:46:10.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6ADCA30:01C57706] MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Clearswift ES version 4.8.1.149) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:03:42 -0000 >=20-----Original=20Message----- >=20From:=20Chuck=20Swiger=20[mailto:cswiger@mac.com] >=20Sent:=2021=20June=202005=2019:25 >=20To:=20Roland=20Smith >=20Cc:=20Harrison=20Peter=20CSA=20BIRKENHEAD;=20freebsd-questions@freebsd= .org >=20Subject:=20Re:=20-DNOPROFILE=20with=20make=20buildworld... [snip] =20 >=20Normally,=20you=20don't=20use=20the=20profiled=20versions=20of=20libra= ries=20 >=20unless=20you=20are=20 >=20running=20a=20binary=20which=20links=20against=20them.=20=20If=20you=20= are=20 >=20running=20a=20binary=20which=20 >=20has=20not=20been=20compiled=20with=20profiling,=20the=20toolchain=20wi= ll=20link=20 >=20it=20against=20normal=20 >=20versions=20of=20the=20libraries. Most=20of=20the=20apps=20I'm=20running=20have=20been=20compiled=20from=20p= orts=20against=20the=20stock=205.3-RELEASE=20libraries.=20Are=20the=20stoc= k=20libraries=20profiling=20or=20not?=20Would=20I=20have=20had=20to=20expl= icitly=20set=20an=20option=20to=20compile=20ports=20to=20link=20against=20= profiling=20libraries?=20Is=20it=20therefore=20a=20reasonable=20assumption= =20that=20if=20I=20didn't=20specifically=20make=20any=20binaries=20profili= ng,=20then=20they'll=20be=20not-profiling? >=20 >=20[=20...=20] >=20>=20Programs=20that=20have=20been=20compiled=20with=20profiling=20enab= led=20might=20run >=20>=20fractionally=20slower=20that=20without.=20But=20I=20doubt=20the=20= difference=20is >=20>=20significant=20on=20a=20modern=20machine.=20 >=20 >=20The=20amount=20of=20overhead=20seems=20to=20vary=20by=20platform,=20bu= t=20it's=20 >=20generally=20only=20a=20 >=20couple=20of=20percent.=20=20Not=20very=20significant,=20but=20maybe=20= noticable. >=20 >=20The=20major=20downsides=20to=20having=20profiled=20libraries=20around=20= is=20 >=20that=20they=20use=20more=20 >=20disk=20space=20than=20normal=20versions,=20and=20it=20takes=20longer=20= to=20do=20a=20 >=20buildworld,=20but=20 >=20the=20runtime=20performance=20of=20the=20system=20for=20normal=20binar= ies=20 >=20will=20not=20be=20affected. I=20can=20live=20with=20that=20kind=20of=20performance=20overhead,=20but=20= disk=20space=20is=20more=20of=20an=20issue=20for=20me. >=20 >=20>=20I'll=20be=20bold=20and=20say=20that=20modern=20machines=20are=20so= =20fast=20that=20there=20is >=20>=20seldom=20need=20to=20profile=20a=20program. >=20 >=20Even=20people=20who=20write=20code=20on=20fast=20machines=20may=20run=20= that=20code=20 >=20on=20slower=20boxes=20 >=20sometime.=20=20However,=20what=20you've=20said=20is=20still=20true:=20= there=20is=20 >=20seldom=20need=20to=20 >=20profile=20a=20program.=20=20Get=20it=20working=20well=20enough=20that=20= it=20 >=20doesn't=20leak=20memory,=20and=20 >=20then=20worry=20about=20profiling=20it.=20=20:-) > Indeed.=20Once=20I've=20successfully=20upgraded=20my=20Athlon=20XP=201800+= =20desktop=20to=205.4=20I'm=20intending=20to=20set=20up=20NFS=20shares=20a= nd=20upgrade=20my=20Thinkpad=20600e=20which=20is=20also=20on=205.3=20(and=20= I=20don't=20fancy=20building=20world=20on=20it's=20P2=20366). >=20--=20 >=20-Chuck Thanks=20for=20the=20advice. 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On=20leaving=20the=20GSi=20this=20email=20was=20certified=20virus-free From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:04:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C378916A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) Received: from codegurus.org (cpc2-stoc7-3-0-cust147.midd.cable.ntl.com [81.104.76.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8A943D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) Received: from codegurus.org (codegurus.org [192.168.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by codegurus.org (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5M93c0X082285; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:03:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) From: Mick Walker To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:03:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1119431018.78612.18.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: HTML Mail from Command Line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:04:25 -0000 On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 01:55 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > pipe it through mimencode and do other massaging to it. You do > realize HTML mail is not standardized, don't you? Thanks for your reply Ted. I don't have a mimencode binary on my system and nothing in the ports tree. I am using FreeBSD 5.3-Release. And yes I realise it isnt standardised, however I just want to email myself a html page, displaying system statistics. Regards Mick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:07:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B46216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:07:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA53743D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M98jb25293; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Matt Juszczak" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:07:41 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050620134427.R12790@neptune.atopia.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:07:44 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Matt Juszczak [mailto:matt@atopia.net] >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:49 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... > > > > >On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >> Please post dmesg output from both systems. > >The systems end up crashing so I can't do a dmesg.... or do you mean a >general dmesg when they are stable? > Yes. Matt, please slow down and quit panicing for just a second here - you haven't even told us what processor these are on let alone what the hardware manufacturer is. It's like your calling to schedule a doctors appointment and you aren't even telling them if the patient is a man, woman, child, or for that matter, family dog! The vast majority of panics are hardware-related. It is rare nowadays for a usermode program to make the system panic. In particular you said the problem happens more under load. That really points even more to a hardware problem - bad CPU cache ram, bad ram, scsi termination, that sort of thing. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:10:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0439116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:10:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A1F43D58 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:10:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (212.181.162.201) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.059.6) id 429C53B60053EB0E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:10:55 +0200 Received: (qmail 34379 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jun 2005 11:10:55 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:10:54 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD Message-ID: <20050622091054.GA34367@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD , Chuck Swiger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:10:58 -0000 On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 09:46:11AM +0100, Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com] > > Sent: 21 June 2005 19:25 > > To: Roland Smith > > Cc: Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... > > [snip] > > > Normally, you don't use the profiled versions of libraries > > unless you are > > running a binary which links against them. If you are > > running a binary which > > has not been compiled with profiling, the toolchain will link > > it against normal > > versions of the libraries. > > > Most of the apps I'm running have been compiled from ports against > the stock 5.3-RELEASE libraries. Are the stock libraries profiling or > not? No. > Would I have had to explicitly set an option to compile ports to > link against profiling libraries? Yes. > Is it therefore a reasonable > assumption that if I didn't specifically make any binaries profiling, > then they'll be not-profiling? Yes. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:17:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B1A16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:17:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1130143D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:17:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M9IJb25337; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:18:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mick Walker" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:17:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1119431018.78612.18.camel@codegurus.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: HTML Mail from Command Line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:17:20 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mick Walker >Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:04 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: HTML Mail from Command Line > > >On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 01:55 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> pipe it through mimencode and do other massaging to it. You do >> realize HTML mail is not standardized, don't you? > >Thanks for your reply Ted. > >I don't have a mimencode binary on my system and nothing in the ports >tree. It's part of /usr/ports/mail/metamail There's plenty other ASCII-to-MIME converters. Anyway, this is just part of the solution. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:21:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBFF16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:21:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B232443D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:21:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:22:07 +0100 Message-ID: <42B92D95.6070206@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:21:25 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mick Walker References: <1119431018.78612.18.camel@codegurus.org> In-Reply-To: <1119431018.78612.18.camel@codegurus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 09:22:07.0233 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC2ED710:01C5770B] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTML Mail from Command Line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:21:28 -0000 Mick Walker wrote: >On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 01:55 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >>pipe it through mimencode and do other massaging to it. You do >>realize HTML mail is not standardized, don't you? >> >> > >I don't have a mimencode binary on my system and nothing in the ports >tree. >I am using FreeBSD 5.3-Release. > > > Then you need to look a little harder :-) % find /usr/ports -type f -name pkg-plist -print0 | xargs -0 egrep mimencode /usr/ports/mail/exmh2/pkg-plist:lib/exmh-%%EXMH_VERSION%%/mimencode.tcl /usr/ports/mail/metamail/pkg-plist:bin/mimencode --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:30:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30BC16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8268143D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:31:30 +0100 Message-ID: <42B92FC9.9030707@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:30:49 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: racerx@makeworld.com References: <20050621230339.B8497@neptune.atopia.net> <20050622075039.GH33633@osiris.chen.org.nz> <42B91F47.7020207@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <42B91F47.7020207@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 09:31:30.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C277230:01C5770D] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD dieing, now has died doing portsdb -uU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:51 -0000 Chris wrote: >Jonathan Chen wrote: > > >>On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:04:44PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>In relation to my previous post(s) (I no longer know the subject line), >>>my freebsd mail server died again, this time while I was doinga portsdb >>>-uU ... it got halfway through and crapped out. >>> >>> >>Check your hardware for overheating, power-supply problems and flakey >>memory chips. >> >> > >Agreed - we may indeed find out he's running an AMD. Can we say HOT?! > > > Have a look at http://www.silentpcreview.com/article169-page2.html (Heat and Power section). Kind of disagrees with you... --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:31:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE2716A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:31:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4A143D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:31:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M9Wfb25397; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "P.U.Kruppa" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:31:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050620151328.M11229@www.pukruppa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:31:41 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of P.U.Kruppa >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:28 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: P.U.Kruppa; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) > > >> As for knowing if a disk has failed, >> I think the only way to know is to watch the little lights on the disk >> front. >After reading Alex' story about running a RAID 1 with a defect >disc for three years, I believe it will suffice, when I check >things with every system upgrade. > The little lights change color and blink an angry red when a disk dies. You don't want to run it 3 years. For one thing, the warranty might expire. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:39:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E8B16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:39:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8B343D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:39:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M9ecb25435; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Alex Zbyslaw" , "Mick Walker" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:39:34 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B92D95.6070206@dial.pipex.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: HTML Mail from Command Line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:39:42 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Alex Zbyslaw >Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:21 AM >To: Mick Walker >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: HTML Mail from Command Line > >> >> >Then you need to look a little harder :-) > The computer looks harder. ;-) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 10:09:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1244316A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:09:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCAB43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:09:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MA95eK025022; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:09:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j5MA9376025010; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17081.14522.350761.161301@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:08:58 -0700 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: References: <17080.48071.705585.35147@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alex Zbyslaw Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:09:25 -0000 >>>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:00:09 -0700, >>>>> "Ted Mittelstaedt" said: > With a RAID-1 card, mirroring, there are 2 ways to setup reads. > The first way makes the assumption that you are mirroring purely > for fault tolerance. In that case you would NOT see a ANY read from > the second disk. The reason is that every time you read you move the > heads, and the more head movement the quicker the disk wears out. OK. I wasn't aware that some RAID cards allow you to tune reads in this way. Mine, which is a Mylex DAC1100, does not. > Placing exactly the same amount of head movement on both disks > means that if you setup a mirror with new disks of the same model, > which is pretty much how most people do it, the MTBF on both disks > is the same, and if you put equal activity on both disks your making > a very good chance that they will fail at the same time, or very close > to the same time. This assumes a small standard deviation --- much smaller than I would think is reasonable. I don't think that I have ever seen standard deviation data quoted by a manufacturer, which of course makes any MTBF data that they provide worthless. Seagate quotes a MTBF of 1.4 million hours for their 10K Cheetah. That's 160 years! Assuming you actually believe that, there is no way the std dev on that number is less than a month. I would imagine that ~10yrs would be more reasonable. Unless you have better numbers, I would say that setting up RAID 1 as you describe above is just plain silly. BTW, since Seagate offers a 5 year warranty, I don't think that even they believe their own MTBF numbers. Or perhaps they do know the std dev and it's 155 years? > The second way on a mirror is to try to setup reads to enhance speed > in addition to fault tolerance. > With this setup you interleave reads. You read a few blocks from the > first disk, then a few blocks from the second, then a few blocks > from the first, etc. etc. > However, the kicker is that you do this AT THE SAME TIME. The disk heads > are both continuiously reading, because the read speed of the heads > are so much slower than the time it takes to move the data out of the > drive and into main memory, that each disk is 'running dry' so fast > that by alternating the read, your giving the drive a chance to catch > up. So there is never a time the head isn't either reading or seeking > for > the next read, thus the disk drive lights are going to be both on > solid at the same time. They will not be "alternate blinking" Indeed, > if > they really are alternating back and forth, then your read throughput > will be no higher than a continuious read from a single disk. I agree with all of this. However, I do indeed see alternate flickering and the RAID array is sitting right in front of me. I expect this has to do with how the intensity of the activity lights is tied to seek vs read. If it matters, the drives are Cheetahs and they are in a Sun Multipack hot swap box. Anyway, this is all minutia... I think that it is fair to say that the main point of this thread is that if the behaviour of the drives' activity lights is not consistent with your RAID setup, then you should investigate --- regardless of what your RAID admin tool is saying. Would you agree with this? Sandy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 10:46:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FC416A41F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) Received: from mail39.messagelabs.com (mail39.messagelabs.com [193.109.254.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85B9A43D58 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: peter.harrison@dwp.gsi.gov.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-39.messagelabs.com!1119437167!9935024!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.15; banners=dwp.gsi.gov.uk,-,- X-Originating-IP: [195.92.40.48] Received: (qmail 15735 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 10:46:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.hosting-e.gsi.gov.uk) (195.92.40.48) by server-13.tower-39.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 10:46:07 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:20:46 +0100 Message-Id: Thread-Topic: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... Thread-Index: AcV3DILQQQeSwAvURMi9NGzVkytcTwAB1h3g From: "Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD" To: "Erik Trulsson" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 10:22:13.0213 (UTC) FILETIME=[4183B8D0:01C57714] MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Clearswift ES version 4.8.1.149) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: -DNOPROFILE with make buildworld... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:10 -0000 >-----Original=20Message----- >From:=20Erik=20Trulsson=20[mailto:ertr1013@student.uu.se] >Sent:=2022=20June=202005=2010:11 >To:=20Harrison=20Peter=20CSA=20BIRKENHEAD >Cc:=20Chuck=20Swiger;=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject:=20Re:=20-DNOPROFILE=20with=20make=20buildworld... 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On=20leaving=20the=20GSi=20this=20email=20was=20certified=20virus-free From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 10:46:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967C316A41F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254CE43D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:59 +0100 Message-ID: <42B9417A.1060608@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:18 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 10:46:59.0821 (UTC) FILETIME=[B79A19D0:01C57717] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTML Mail from Command Line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:46:20 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>Then you need to look a little harder :-) >> >> >> > >The computer looks harder. ;-) > > Only when you tell it to! --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 12:13:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B2A16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:13:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: from beastie.creo.hu (www.creo.hu [217.113.62.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF6843D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:13:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: from beastie.creo.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.creo.hu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5MCCxNG070359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:12:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: (from csaba@localhost) by beastie.creo.hu (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5MCCx8K070358 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:12:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from csaba) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:12:59 +0200 From: Csaba Henk To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050622121259.GI81682@beastie.creo.hu> References: <20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features (OT: end user policies) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:13:06 -0000 On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 01:05:32AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > This gives rise to a rather serious Catch-22 with FreeBSD: > > You need to really understand intimately how FreeBSD works > and how computer software that runs on it works in order to > get it to work well enough for you to learn intimately how it > works. > > Windows and Linux solved this Catch-22 by dumbing-down the > interface to their operating systems. Thus, an ignoramus > can get up and running with both of these systems, and that > person can remain fat, dumb, and happy, completely ignorant > of what he is doing, and those systems will still work enough > to get the job done. It may be a half-assed fix, but it is > better than nothing. Concerning Linux, I feel you generalize far too uncautiously. >From the POV of this discussion, there is no such thing as Linux OS. Linux is just a kernel, as we know. There is no such a thing as Gnu/Linux OS, either. Gnu/Linux is just a set of regularly updated source tarballs. RedHat, Debian, Gentoo, SuSe, ... are operating systems. Each of them is comparable with Windowses and BSDs in respect of end user policies -- but the Linux kernel and the Gnu/Linux packages as such don't interfere with end users. Some of them are dumbed down, others are not. Concerning the dumbed down ones: I'm eager to see one which passes the following test. Toss in a data CD. The system will automount it and place an icon on the desktop. Click on the icon, you'll get a file browser showing the contents of the CD. Now look up the "eject" menupoint in the (usually right-click) menu of the CD icon, and click on it. Do you get an error message which makes sense for a computer-ignorant user? Do you get any hint how to resolve the problem? I don't dare to suggest an alternative to Windows using (and cursing) friends and relatives where one can't answer "yes" to these questions. That is, you have to distinguish within "dumbed down interfaces", too. Csaba From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 12:23:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E07816A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:23:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jkerian@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2558843D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:23:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jkerian@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so248935wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:23:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZPi2P/pgBmEfrKzbutYu2Hvb8h8BAKste526mQjJJXaZeVn8rNHuy2n3rMCaHwUxZojkE7qdg+lJ2QRZENfSUkqXs3KfqL7yma5FqfHgqGzL+Cc0N7vD65mOaJ+tgVmTvpoOPp1v1kKjIBc6olK0fbFxkKYt8A9+3bRJww1r+v0= Received: by 10.54.57.56 with SMTP id f56mr404322wra; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.63 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <282b2dd9050622052314b8d6de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:23:51 -0500 From: Joseph Kerian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: vinum question: ide chain crashed, one or two drives dead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joseph Kerian List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:23:52 -0000 I was away for a long weekend when I recieved an annoyed phone call regarding a site that I manage. While it was not terribly difficult to bring the website back online, I lost either a controller card or an IDE cable, and this produced a string of errors that eventually led to a kernel panic. I would very much like to be able to recover some of this data, and am curious if I am able to. Running FreeBSD nene 5.3-RELEASE-p5 with a custom kernel to include IPFW options. The following was my "var/log/messages" for the relevent times: Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: ad2: WARNING - removed from configuration Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: ad3: WARNING - removed from configuration Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: ata1-master: FAILURE - unknown CMD (0xb0) time= d out Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: vinum: ideraid.p0.s0 is crashed by force Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: vinum: ideraid.p0 is degraded Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: fatal:ideraid.p0.s0 read error, block 231758025 for 16384 bytes Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: ideraid.p0.s0: user buffer block 1158788032 for 16384 bytes Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: dua: fatal drive I/O error, block 231758025 for 16384 bytes Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: vinum: drive dua is down Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: vinum: ideraid.p0.s0 is stale by force Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: fatal :ideraid.p0.s0 write error, block 231758025 for 16384 bytes Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: ideraid.p0.s0: user buffer block 1158788032 for 16384 bytes Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: dua: fatal drive I/O error, block 231758025 for 16384 bytes Jun 20 04:30:44 nene smartd[604]: Device: /dev/ad2, failed to read SMART Attribute Data Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: vinum: Can't write config to /dev/ad3a, error = 6 Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: vinum: drive eva34 is down Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: vinum: ideraid.p0.s1 is crashed Jun 20 04:30:44 nene kernel: vinum: ideraid.p0 is corrupt Jun 21 03:01:08 nene kernel: fatal:ideraid.p0.s1 read error, block 301684457 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:08 nene kernel: ideraid.p0.s1: user buffer block 1508419040 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:08 nene kernel: eva34: fatal drive I/O error, block 301684457 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:08 nene kernel: fatal:ideraid.p0.s1 read error, block 301684457 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:08 nene kernel: ideraid.p0.s1: user buffer block 1508419040 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:08 nene kernel: eva34: fatal drive I/O error, block 301684457 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:09 nene kernel: 4 bytes Jun 21 03:01:09 nene kernel: fatal:ideraid.p0.s1 read error, block 301684457 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:09 nene kernel: ideraid.p0.s1: user buffer block 1508419040 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:09 nene kernel: eva34: fatal drive I/O error, block 301684457 for 16384 bytes (approximately 3000 repeats of those 3 lines later) Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: vinum: ideraid.p0.s1 is stale by force Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: vinum: ideraid.p0.s0 is crashed by force Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: fatal:ideraid.p0.s0 read error, block 177262153 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: ideraid.p0.s0: user buffer block 886309184 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: dua: fatal drive I/O error, block 177262153 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: fatal:ideraid.p0.s0 read error, block 177563337 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: ideraid.p0.s0: user buffer block 887814592 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: dua: fatal drive I/O error, block 177563337 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: fatal:ideraid.p0.s0 read error, block 178466889 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: ideraid.p0.s0: user buffer block 892330816 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: dua: fatal drive I/O error, block 178466889 for 16384 bytes Jun 21 03:01:37 nene kernel: vinum: ideraid.p0.s0 is stale by force vinum list: (after using "start") 6 drives: D gva250 State: up /dev/ad7a A: 0/238475 MB (0%) D eva200 State: up /dev/ad6a A: 0/190782 MB (0%) D gva200 State: up /dev/ad5a A: 0/190782 MB (0%) D eva250 State: up /dev/ad4a A: 0/238475 MB (0%) D eva34 State: up /dev/ad3a A: 0/190782 MB (0%) D dua State: up /dev/ad2a A: 0/190782 MB (0%) 2 volumes: V ideraid State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 931 GB V mirror2 State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 46 GB 3 plexes: P ideraid.p0 R5 State: corrupt Subdisks: 6 Size: 931 G= B P mirror2.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 46 GB P mirror2.p1 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 46 GB 8 subdisks: S ideraid.p0.s0 State: stale D: dua Size: 186 GB S ideraid.p0.s1 State: crashed D: eva34 Size: 186 GB S ideraid.p0.s2 State: up D: eva250 Size: 186 GB S ideraid.p0.s3 State: up D: gva200 Size: 186 GB S ideraid.p0.s4 State: up D: eva200 Size: 186 GB S ideraid.p0.s5 State: up D: gva250 Size: 186 GB S mirror2.p0.s0 State: up D: gva250 Size: 46 GB S mirror2.p1.s0 State: up D: eva250 Size: 46 GB vinum_history contains nothing of interest, a long history of "l" (list), start, stop, and a few helps. I'm not entirely sure why it doesn't contain the commands of initially creating the array. But the array appears in that vinum list as it was configured, although it would be nice if the ideraid array functioned. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated. --Joe Kerian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 12:33:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA716A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flanagan.matt@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B5C43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flanagan.matt@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so318670nzo for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:33:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qR/mQo6+PmFUnCcXCuQEerblHjrY41HFWKKdJKCwSOEf2UVi+v9qQvADeDg5ayAhncjHENH1LH6aKrXH/1cCElTxJWaY9Qbl78LvnGy4FrCNLS0cQIvTx7mKTeWr4jkUOxSlbbNk0DhUQIHOoahYfWVWfGEbnIRzXVQ+ExROu1g= Received: by 10.36.96.18 with SMTP id t18mr509659nzb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.126.4 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cd06a2d05062205331d03372c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:33:52 -0300 From: Matthew Flanagan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Raising temperature threshold X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthew Flanagan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:33:53 -0000 Hi everyone, I`ve installed a FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and I was building some ports when=20 suddenly my system shut down. Upon rebooting it and checking=20 /var/log/messages, I found the following lines: Jun 21 16:01:30 bell root: WARNING: system temperature too high, shutting down soon! Jun 21 16:01:40 bell kernel: acpi_tz0: WARNING - current temperature (60.0C) exceeds safe limits Then I realized what had happened. My acpi_thermal sysctl's are: hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 50.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 50.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 60.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 50.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 When I try to raise hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT to 85C (which is the threshold= in the BIOS setup) it doesn't work: bell# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=3D3580 # 3580 tenths of Kelvin=3D85C sysctl: oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT' is read only I've tried /etc/sysctl.conf as well, but I get the same error. Now, my question is: how do I change this value? I've read several manpages (acpi(4), acpi_thermal(4), acpiconf(8), and many others) and checked the handbook, to no avail. Can anyone point me to the right direction? Thanks a lot, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 12:51:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A2216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:51:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: from web53912.mail.yahoo.com (web53912.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 844C543D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:51:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76712 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jun 2005 12:51:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PvraN6xPzyR6s4+TD5NxJTpyUcD4wb7sB3ZpvsrzlH9LQwnEuWodonlPAubFskbYNryx0K1le0/rZkmojvm5f7jh7TXb6XsfsODY7C2noW9FT8XnXIcJP627JihFIFLNxd+v5nrOD5OXvZmJF+pMPAnGKLzAebMhyhANV76n+jo= ; Message-ID: <20050622125108.76710.qmail@web53912.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.16.58.178] by web53912.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:51:08 PDT Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: virecover and sendmail scripts hanging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:51:10 -0000 Ahoy. For a while now (several years in fact), my virecover and sendmail startup scripts will hang while booting. I'm forced to hit ctrl c to continue the bootup. Then I can run the scripts afterwards from a terminal and they work fine. I've looked into the problem a few times, but found nothing. All I know is that sometimes when my network topology changes and I change things in rc.conf, it starts working, but then I have to change it again later and it starts hanging again. I'm thinking it has to do with natd or named or something. I hate to change rc.conf lines one at a time and reboot. That would be a lot of reboots. Anyway, I'd appreciate a little insight on this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 13:11:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D2616A41F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:11:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.net) Received: from mx1.exponential-e.net (ixbl-sun-02.exponential-e.net [62.244.177.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC1C43D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:11:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.net) Received: from 62-244-182-25.cust.exponential-e.net ([62.244.182.25]:35112 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx1.exponential-e.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dl50Z-0004br-OZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:11:12 +0000 Message-ID: <42B96370.4070707@exponential-e.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:11:12 +0100 From: Jim Mozley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0525-1, 21/06/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: support for ICH6R controller and Broadcom ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:11:14 -0000 I have asked this on freebsd-hardware but didn't hear anything so I hoped someone here could help... I am potentially buying a server with a Tyan Tomcat i7221 motherboard. I am unsure of the support in FreeBSD for the following: - ICH6R disk controller - Broadcom BCM5721 ethernet Ideally I would put FreeBSD 4.10 on the systems as we are already using this on several systems (these new servers unfortunately have to be different to the previous ones). FreeBSD 4.11 hardware compatibility says there is support for intel ICH5 as does the ata man page for FreeBSD 4.10. I've also checked the man page for ata on FreeBSD 5.4 and it says up to ICH5. I am aware that there is Broadcom support via the bge driver, the man page says "provides support for various NICs based on the Broadcom BCM570x". Haven't found any mention of what I assume is the later controller and the broadcom website doesn't have any mention of a Freebsd driver. Can anyone advise on support for these in version 4.10, if I need 5.4 or whether they will work at all? Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 13:15:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987A416A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.net) Received: from mx1.exponential-e.net (ixbl-sun-02.exponential-e.net [62.244.177.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A9B43D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.net) Received: from 62-244-182-25.cust.exponential-e.net ([62.244.182.25]:35107 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx1.exponential-e.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dl54L-0004g7-Db for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:15:05 +0000 Message-ID: <42B9645A.80903@exponential-e.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:15:06 +0100 From: Jim Mozley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0525-1, 21/06/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: support for ICH6R controller and Broadcom ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:15:06 -0000 I have asked this on freebsd-hardware but didn't hear anything so I hoped someone here could help... I am potentially buying a server with a Tyan Tomcat i7221 motherboard. I am unsure of the support in FreeBSD for the following: - ICH6R disk controller - Broadcom BCM5721 ethernet Ideally I would put FreeBSD 4.10 on the systems as we are already using this on several systems (these new servers unfortunately have to be different to the previous ones). FreeBSD 4.11 hardware compatibility says there is support for intel ICH5 as does the ata man page for FreeBSD 4.10. I've also checked the man page for ata on FreeBSD 5.4 and it says up to ICH5. I am aware that there is Broadcom support via the bge driver, the man page says "provides support for various NICs based on the Broadcom BCM570x". Haven't found any mention of what I assume is the later controller and the broadcom website doesn't have any mention of a Freebsd driver. Can anyone advise on support for these in version 4.10, if I need 5.4 or whether they will work at all? Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 13:23:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D684016A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83C843D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B84CAD388 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:23:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: chtvEo4mOoCxDMWRA1P1sqO1sLZCV5Yd5+xeLaDwZVi5 1119446605 Received: from gumby.localdomain (dsl-80-41-64-176.access.as9105.com [80.41.64.176]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB7957034F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:23:25 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:23:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA24@fci-ex.FCI> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA24@fci-ex.FCI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506221423.22960.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: CVSup -install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:27 -0000 On Tuesday 21 June 2005 22:19, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I first tried to install from disc and was receiving > > Error code - 1 > > So I decided to do it from the internet and this is where I'm getting stu= ck > > > This is the error I get > > =82=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80 User Confirma= tion Requested =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=83 > =81 Warning: Can't find the `5.4-RC4' distribution on this = =81 It looks like your using a pre-release version of 5.4. If I were you I'd=20 upgrade to a proper 5.4 release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 13:26:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767B316A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:26:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2878F43D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:26:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:26:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA49@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: CVSup -install Thread-Index: AcV3LZ6eD2sM9gzCTMak2756vTDv1QAABvzQ From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "RW" , Cc: Subject: RE: CVSup -install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:26:11 -0000 Can I upgrade from within, or do I need to download , create the disc = ,then reinstall? I'm VERY new to this, so I'm sorry if my questions are lame -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of RW Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:23 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup -install On Tuesday 21 June 2005 22:19, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I first tried to install from disc and was receiving > > Error code - 1 > > So I decided to do it from the internet and this is where I'm getting = stuck > > > This is the error I get > > =82=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80 User = Confirmation Requested = =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=83 > =81 Warning: Can't find the `5.4-RC4' distribution on this = =81 It looks like your using a pre-release version of 5.4. If I were you I'd = upgrade to a proper 5.4 release. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 13:48:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD86F16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:48:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpoland@omniresources.com) Received: from gblinux.omniresources.com (atwns1.omniresource.com [69.48.112.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531C943D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpoland@omniresources.com) Received: from antioch.omniresources.com (antioch.atwdev.omniresources.com [192.168.254.77]) by gblinux.omniresources.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MDmYWs086391; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:48:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dpoland@atwdev.omniresources.com) Received: from antioch.omniresources.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antioch.omniresources.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5MDmXjl000800; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:48:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dpoland@antioch.omniresources.com) Received: (from dpoland@localhost) by antioch.omniresources.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j5MDmVYC000799; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:48:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dpoland) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:48:31 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: Reuben Popp Message-ID: <20050622134828.GB733@omniresources.com> References: <20050621232652.GA13734@marvin.eastcentral.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050621232652.GA13734@marvin.eastcentral.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wacom tablet and 5.4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:48:41 -0000 On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 06:26:52PM -0500, Reuben Popp wrote: > > I was just given a Wacom Intuos tablet (I'm not sure which exact model > it is, it's a 12x12), and I was wondering if anyone has any experience > with making these work under bsd, preferrably with gimp. > I had a 4x4 mostly working on 5.3 > The connector for the tablet itself is serial, and I have been plugging > it in via my laptop's 25 pin serial connector ;). I am running > FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE, with most everything installed. If needed, I can > post output from dmesg as well. > > Thus far I have googled quite a bit, and tried the instructions from the > Wacom Linux page (http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/main), > with no luck so far. > > It would be great if I could get this device to work under bsd. Any > ideas? > Once you have the serial communications working, everything else is based on xorg.conf and gimp. I'll see if I can dig up the xorg.conf I used on that system. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:01:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8A416A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:01:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09B843D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:00:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4F5C2DD for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:01:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:01:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050620190528.GA5481@charade.trit.org> <20050621004252.GB5481@charade.trit.org> In-Reply-To: X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Subject: Re: FreeBSD L2TP client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:01:00 -0000 On June 21, 2005 08:24 pm, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:42:52 +0000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions > > you wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:05:28 +0000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions > >> > >> you wrote: > >> >I am looking for a way to use FreeBSD as a L2TP VPN client. Does > >> > anyone know of a way to do this. I found ng_l2tp, but I'm not quite > >> > sure how to use it. If anyone has a good how-to, or can give me some > >> > direction, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. I used to use pptpclient (from the ports) but I think the vpn server supported pptp as well as l2tp. At least it was easy to set up so may be worth a try. > >> > >> See > >> /usr/ports/net/sl2tps > >> > >> ---Mike > > > >What I really need is a VPN client. I already have a server. I need a > > way to connect from various locations with my laptop. > > I havent used it, but > http://www.like.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de/propro/freebsd/ > with mpd might work. I dont think any of these implementations have > any encryption however. > > ---Mike > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net > Providing Internet Access since 1994 > mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:19:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C2B16A420 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:19:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F366343D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:19:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 6309 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 14:18:34 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2005 14:18:34 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A29082B; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "John Anderson" To: References: <000601c57649$daa14760$5a24ebdc@GNOME> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Jun 2005 10:18:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <000601c57649$daa14760$5a24ebdc@GNOME> Message-ID: <44ll52jwzr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Firewall with USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:19:09 -0000 "John Anderson" writes: > Hi there folks, > > Having just moved into the country I am forced to use satellite for a broadband connection. Due to telsra having a monopoly on this, I need to have 2 USB connections, one for satellite download, one for ISDN upload. So my router doesn't fit. > > Does anyone know if the freebsd firewall will support two USB WAN connections to a normal LAN internal network? USB is irrelevant; you need to consider what kind of USB devices you using to connect. Having more than one external interface is not by itself a problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:20:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719D816A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:20:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E0B43D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86389C2DD; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:20:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:20:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <002101c576c3$c9f034b0$4ef471d5@gladbard> In-Reply-To: <002101c576c3$c9f034b0$4ef471d5@gladbard> X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Cc: Simon Ulfsbecker Subject: Re: Xorg installation fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:20:32 -0000 On June 21, 2005 08:46 pm, Simon Ulfsbecker wrote: > Hi readers, > > I would greatly appreciate any suggestions as to why my Xorg installation > fails. > Xorg.0.log file can be fetched at: > > http://hem.bredband.net/simulf/Xorg.0.log No promises I have a clue here. I am by no means an X setup expert. My technique is to choose hardware that is explicitly listed as compatible in the documentation (and early on in the probe list) but I did notice a few things: First, your output indicates that you don't yet have an xorg.conf setup. Try running xorgconfig from the command line and answering the questions very carefully. Go through the video card database and find your exact video card if you can when selecting the video card. Secondly, I noticed that xorg probed your video card as a radeon but it chose to use the generic ati driver. I think there is now an included radeon specific driver. Third, I believe that xorg defaults to a ps2 mouse/keyboard if your hardware has ps2 ports without even looking elsewhere. I used to have an old serial mouse and XFree86 failed to find it on hardware with ps2 ports. If I explicitly configured xorg to use the serial mouse there was no problems. On the mouse topic, I have since switched to using the FreeBSD moused console mouse utility and configuring xorg to use the sysmouse device instead. You have to configure this manually to get xorg to use the sysmouse properly. As for your logitech mouse, I've used those (serial, ps2, and usb) on various systems without a problem using moused so unless you are having hardware problems it should work fine. > During standard installation of freeBSD 5.4 my logitech USB 3 button mouse > fails to be detected, but when doing a post install mouse configuration the > pointer shows up and can be moved around when testing the mouse deamon. > Still, my mouse pointer is reported as missing when running Xorg -config > xorg.conf.new after that. > Using a USB to PS/2-adapter might do the trick, but adhering to moore's > law, my motherboard (Asus p4p800 deluxe) can't handle a PS/2 mouse for some > odd reason. My box won't boot and the monitor wont power on having anything > plugged into the PS/2 port (!). > > Some errors are also reported for my ATI Radeon 9800 pro GFX adapter, but I > think it's the non present pointer device that is hindering me from doing > an Xorg -config. > > I'm out of clues... > > Best regards, > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:25:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9215116A41F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:25:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDA743D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:25:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 30128 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 14:25:14 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2005 14:25:14 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 59F922B; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Wesley Groleau" References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Jun 2005 10:25:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44hdfqjwop.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD to examine/work on a Solaris disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:25:15 -0000 "Wesley Groleau" writes: > I have an i386 FreeBSD 5.4 I've stuck a disk from a Sun Ultra 10 on the > ATA0 slave. > > If possible, I'd like to mount it to see what's what. > > (and tweak some /etc files so I can get into the Sun). > > Is there an fstype to mount the disk? Or even a way to see the > partition table? > > All the ones I tried wouldn't work. FreeBSD does recognize there is a > disk there. > > Of course, I can't be sure it's Solaris---previous owner might have > been into Linux/BSD/whatever. To start with, there's probably a problem with endianness (on the metadata structures). Even if the Sun ran FreeBSD, that would still apply. I'd estimate that this is about the level of a semester project for an undergraduate programmer... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:29:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3C216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:29:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF5E43D58 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:29:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so314697wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:29:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WZPXoNox7SnSRL0w80wpC+OU6a2Zeu7nKig5ZNSbSGjZ1QUl2yhCy4Tzo6DvKp+EykQGIjI9YNhwRBHjG0Ber+H15yegMiGDmW1mUN5fimFr2u+aA3big+m2IPxDpJYJdwBxw6zu2e2tGuFwvp7MDeuD5EOg06b015UKCI/Egiw= Received: by 10.54.43.62 with SMTP id q62mr485190wrq; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:29:39 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Jean-Paul Natola In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA49@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA49@fci-ex.FCI> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: CVSup -install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:29:40 -0000 On 6/22/05, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Can I upgrade from within, or do I need to download , create the disc ,= then > reinstall? >=20 > I'm VERY new to this, so I'm sorry if my questions are lame Jean-Paul, I am also relatively new to this so please accept my advice with a grain of salt, but I'd download the ISO images for FreeBSD 5.4, verified that they are intact with md5 program, created the disk(s) and tried to install it again. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:31:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA98116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:31:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AE143D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:31:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 6518 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 14:31:28 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2005 14:31:28 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id BF88D2B; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42B89949.7040808@computerking.ca> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Jun 2005 10:31:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <42B89949.7040808@computerking.ca> Message-ID: <44d5qejwe8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: ipf not working correctly??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:31:28 -0000 Don't top-post, please. RYAN vAN GINNEKEN writes: > Thanks but do you have any advice for me rather than fbsd_user Not much; your message was hard to follow, and the configuration didn't seem to match the behavior you observed (e.g., ipfilter wasn't even in the kernel configuration, but seemed to be stopping packets). Unless you have a specific reason otherwise, follow the other poster's advice and stick to one firewall configuration. When you are looking for DNS problems, check from the machine running the NAT, so that you can separate problems with NAT from problems with packet filtering. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:38:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1D116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:38:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdaelli@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f39.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E9543D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:38:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdaelli@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:38:03 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.210 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:38:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.210] X-Originating-Email: [vdaelli@hotmail.com] X-Sender: vdaelli@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <42B96370.4070707@exponential-e.net> From: "Valerio Daelli" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:38:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 14:38:03.0509 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF010250:01C57737] Subject: make buildworld fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:38:03 -0000 Hi all I just did a cvsup with this supfile: ______________________________ *default host=cvsup.fi.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all ______________________________ Then I started to make buildworld. But it fails with this error: ______________________________ cc -O3 -mtune=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math -march=pentium4 -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/i386 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/usr/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DHESIOD -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:786: /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c: In function `__loc_aton': /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:576: warning: passing arg 1 of `precsize_aton' from incompatible pointer type In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:797: /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:576: warning: passing arg 1 of `precsize_aton' from incompatible pointer type In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:808: /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:576: warning: passing arg 1 of `precsize_aton' from incompatible pointer type ______________________________ Any idea what's happened? Thanks a lot. Valerio Daelli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:42:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CB716A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DDE43D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:42:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA50@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: CVSup -install Thread-Index: AcV3LZ6eD2sM9gzCTMak2756vTDv1QACvRZA From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "RW" , Cc: Subject: RE: CVSup -install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:42:30 -0000 Is this not the proper release ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of RW Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:23 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup -install On Tuesday 21 June 2005 22:19, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I first tried to install from disc and was receiving > > Error code - 1 > > So I decided to do it from the internet and this is where I'm getting = stuck > > > This is the error I get > > =82=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80 User = Confirmation Requested = =80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=80=83 > =81 Warning: Can't find the `5.4-RC4' distribution on this = =81 It looks like your using a pre-release version of 5.4. If I were you I'd = upgrade to a proper 5.4 release. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:48:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D6B16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B27543D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so325621wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:48:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LKThCZgerGqRqmP/CkJXtR2JqdSz+k1ywjcLXOOpJqpAqQysf59d3luGnGWGPWrOJ40E2+BdTcLRwFNIU8kngUP1MhITPp0r93y9GTFUw9XZYQ/A4Fdux+wsJTKL8UbFgvqKjo0kcm2mZ1JiDhrcH9qbmC5k7jqcGiBKh6bhhE0= Received: by 10.54.57.45 with SMTP id f45mr476151wra; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:48:28 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Jean-Paul Natola In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA50@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948EA50@fci-ex.FCI> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: CVSup -install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:29 -0000 On 6/22/05, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Is this not the proper release > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/ Yes, it seems it is. Is this what you tried to install already? --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:49:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4683916A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784C243D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022F3C2DF for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:49:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:49:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050622064024.GA19456@lothlorien.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050622064024.GA19456@lothlorien.nagual.st> X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Subject: Re: cloning with nfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:02 -0000 On June 22, 2005 02:40 am, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > Yesterday I ruined my partition table on one of my machines. > Luckely this machine was almost an exact copy of another that still is > running fine. > > So, I can follow the procedure of copying one disk to another (following > the handbook). But this requires a fysical removal / action on the > machines and harddisks witch I don't want to do if not needed. > > I did a minimal install on the crashed machine (#B) > If disk'cloning' can be done through NFS that'll be the way to go for > me. > Will it be enough to export /var /usr /tmp and / (#B) to mountpoints on > machine #A and then follow the 'normal' dump/restore procedure mentioned > in the handbook? > Or are there side_effects and will fysical placement of the 'new' drive > in machine #A be the right way to do it? I don't think restore works reliably on NFS mounted disks but I have copied disks using dump/restore through ssh. I would not do a blind dump/restore of / or /var. Those filesystems can contain some installation specific information. I think the only thing out of / that you need to copy would be /etc and possibly /boot if you have a custom kernel. Just remember that a kernel install is not as simple as copying files. You don't need to copy /tmp since it should not contain any information that is needed to survive a reboot. Just reboot after you restore. As for /usr you should be able to dump/restore that one. If you have additional packages installed, you will also want to copy /var/db/pkg and possibly /var/db/ports. Likewise, if the system is a mail server, you will want to copy over the appropriate directory structure (typically /var/spool) but you need to make sure you don't copy over any of the spool files or your users are going to get 2 copies of the same message delivered. > Thanks for any advice. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:49:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7062B16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B5A43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5MEnods031987; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:49:50 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5MEnnG2010987; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:49:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5MEnnvP010986; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:49:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:49:49 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Valerio Daelli Message-ID: <20050622144949.GB10889@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <42B96370.4070707@exponential-e.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:54 -0000 On 2005-06-22 14:38, Valerio Daelli wrote: > > Then I started to make buildworld. But it fails with this error: > ______________________________ > > cc -O3 -mtune=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math > -march=pentium4 -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include > -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/i386 > -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale > -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/usr/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DHESIOD > -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c > In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:786: > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c: In function `__loc_aton': > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:576: warning: passing arg 1 of > `precsize_aton' from incompatible pointer type > In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:797: > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:576: warning: passing arg 1 of > `precsize_aton' from incompatible pointer type > In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:808: > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_debug.c:576: warning: passing arg 1 of > `precsize_aton' from incompatible pointer type > > ______________________________ > > Any idea what's happened? Yes. You're using unsupported optimizations. Please read very carefully the comments above CFLAGS in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 14:54:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2708516A425 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:54:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdaelli@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f27.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E2E43D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:54:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdaelli@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:54:00 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.174.210 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:54:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.174.210] X-Originating-Email: [vdaelli@hotmail.com] X-Sender: vdaelli@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20050622144949.GB10889@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> From: "Valerio Daelli" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:54:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 14:54:00.0821 (UTC) FILETIME=[399B3A50:01C5773A] Subject: Re: make buildworld fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:54:01 -0000 > >Yes. You're using unsupported optimizations. > >Please read very carefully the comments above CFLAGS in > > /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf > >- Giorgos > Thanks a lot! I'll use a safer optimization. Valeiro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 15:05:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BB116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:05:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD3B43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:05:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95448C2DD for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:06:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <44hdfqjwop.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44hdfqjwop.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD to examine/work on a Solaris disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:05:44 -0000 On June 22, 2005 10:25 am, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Wesley Groleau" writes: > > I have an i386 FreeBSD 5.4 I've stuck a disk from a Sun Ultra 10 on the > > ATA0 slave. > > > > If possible, I'd like to mount it to see what's what. > > > > (and tweak some /etc files so I can get into the Sun). > > > > Is there an fstype to mount the disk? Or even a way to see the > > partition table? Nope. FreeBSD does not support the SUN filesystem. SUN does not use a PC type partition table (called slices in FreeBSD terminology) on Sparc systems (which the Ultra 10 is). And, as Lowell mentioned, there is the endian issue. > > All the ones I tried wouldn't work. FreeBSD does recognize there is a > > disk there. Good the disk works. > > Of course, I can't be sure it's Solaris---previous owner might have > > been into Linux/BSD/whatever. If you want to learn a lot about filesystems, you could spend the next year writing a program to access the raw disk device and start picking apart the contents of the disk one block/byte at a time. > To start with, there's probably a problem with endianness (on the > metadata structures). Even if the Sun ran FreeBSD, that would still > apply. I'd estimate that this is about the level of a semester > project for an undergraduate programmer... -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 15:20:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E5E16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:20:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE0243D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:20:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Dl71p-000790-FE; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:20:38 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <823B638C-830E-45E8-82D5-4E2EC5E00534@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:20:36 -0600 To: Matt Juszczak X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: freebsd-questions questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:20:42 -0000 On Jun 22, 2005, at 3:07 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Juszczak [mailto:matt@atopia.net] >> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:49 AM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> Please post dmesg output from both systems. >>> >> >> The systems end up crashing so I can't do a dmesg.... or do you >> mean a >> general dmesg when they are stable? >> >> > > Yes. Matt, please slow down and quit panicing for just a second here > - you haven't even told us what processor these are on let alone > what the > hardware manufacturer is. It's like your calling to schedule a > doctors > appointment and you aren't even telling them if the patient is > a man, woman, child, or for that matter, family dog! > > The vast majority of panics are hardware-related. It is rare nowadays > for a usermode program to make the system panic. In particular you > said > the problem happens more under load. That really points even more > to a > hardware problem - bad CPU cache ram, bad ram, scsi termination, that > sort of thing. > > Ted Just as an example of what Ted is saying. About 3 or 4 years ago I had installed some new "server" main boards for AMD CPUs. The "chipset" was a split chipset that had a "northbridge" by one vendor and a "southbridge" by another vendor. One was an AMD chip and one was a VIA chip. (The AMD supported ECC etc unlike all the other brands of that same chip functionality). Under load (using Adaptec RAID controllers) the machine would freeze up. Finally, after much testing and ridiculous amounts of cooling (assuming it was a heat problem), I replaced the main boards with new ones that only used AMD chipsets for both the north and southbridge chips. Problem went away. These same boards work fine, including under load, with Windows, for example, and a test Linux install also did not have problems (though the Linux was not very well tested). My point is, that you can have some sort of HW problem that shows up under load and it may not be an pbvious one. Test you RAM first, using something like memtest86, and think about what other HW is in your machine(s) and whether you can swap it out for test purposes, etc. --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 15:27:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B5916A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:27:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from gorgo.centroin.com.br (gorgo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07CE43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:27:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from hypselo.centroin.com.br (hypselo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.1]) by gorgo.centroin.com.br (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5MFRcru003146; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:27:38 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:27:38 -0300 (EST) From: Sender: To: Jim Mozley In-Reply-To: <42B96370.4070707@exponential-e.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: support for ICH6R controller and Broadcom ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:27:58 -0000 Hi Jim, I think it's not a answer to you but here is my recent experience. I've installed FBSD 5.4 in a box with Intel ICH5R chipset. It's working, no hangs, no panics, but the disk performance on the second IDE disk (I'm not using RAID, just simple master/slave setup), is terrible. It's like the DMA was not correctly set on the second disk. I read somewhere, that FreeBSD has full support to ICH5 chipset but NOT for ICH5"R". Even when running in "compatibility mode" set on BIOS, the performance is the same. Someone told me the follwing on the performance list: "I remember a commit to the ata driver to fix misprogramming of DMA timing on an Intel chipset for devices and/or channels other than the first. I'm not sure if 5.4 has the bug or the fix." To me it still has the bug. - Marcelo Souza Jim Mozley wrote: |I have asked this on freebsd-hardware but didn't hear anything so I |hoped someone here could help... | |I am potentially buying a server with a Tyan Tomcat i7221 motherboard. I |am unsure of the support in FreeBSD for the following: | |- ICH6R disk controller | |- Broadcom BCM5721 ethernet | |Ideally I would put FreeBSD 4.10 on the systems as we are already using |this on several systems (these new servers unfortunately have to be |different to the previous ones). | |FreeBSD 4.11 hardware compatibility says there is support for intel ICH5 |as does the ata man page for FreeBSD 4.10. I've also checked the man |page for ata on FreeBSD 5.4 and it says up to ICH5. | |I am aware that there is Broadcom support via the bge driver, the man |page says "provides support for various NICs based on the Broadcom |BCM570x". Haven't found any mention of what I assume is the later |controller and the broadcom website doesn't have any mention of a |Freebsd driver. | |Can anyone advise on support for these in version 4.10, if I need 5.4 or |whether they will work at all? | |Thanks, | |Jim |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | - Marcelo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 15:46:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFF516A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:46:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9468043D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:46:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 10168 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2005 15:46:33 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2005 15:46:33 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id BC1762B; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Matthew Flanagan References: <7cd06a2d05062205331d03372c@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Jun 2005 11:46:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <7cd06a2d05062205331d03372c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44br5y5r8o.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Raising temperature threshold X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:46:33 -0000 Matthew Flanagan writes: > I`ve installed a FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and I was building some ports when > suddenly my system shut down. Upon rebooting it and checking > /var/log/messages, I found the following lines: > > Jun 21 16:01:30 bell root: WARNING: system temperature too high, > shutting down soon! > Jun 21 16:01:40 bell kernel: acpi_tz0: WARNING - current temperature > (60.0C) exceeds safe limits > > Then I realized what had happened. My acpi_thermal sysctl's are: > > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 50.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 50.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 60.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 50.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 > > When I try to raise hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT to 85C (which is the threshold in > the BIOS setup) it doesn't work: > > bell# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=3580 # 3580 tenths of Kelvin=85C > sysctl: oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT' is read only > > I've tried /etc/sysctl.conf as well, but I get the same error. > > Now, my question is: how do I change this value? I've read several manpages > (acpi(4), acpi_thermal(4), acpiconf(8), and many others) and checked the > handbook, to no avail. Can anyone point me to the right direction? Can it be set at boot time? [from the loader?] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 15:46:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D255216A41F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:46:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (camomile.cloud9.net [168.100.1.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADA643D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:46:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D2DFA549E for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFD355FC for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BDA11576 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41432-08 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3A80F114ED; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:37 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050622154637.GE67917@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: Subject: clamav build link error (reference to gethostbyname_r) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:46:44 -0000 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just updated my ports and found that clamav was due for upgrade. Problem is it won't build because of a gethostbyname_r reference. During the configuration stage, it seems to find a gethostbyname_r: checking for gethostbyname_r... yes, and it takes 5 arguments I can't find any reference to gethostbyname_r in the manpages, except for the LWRES_GETHOSTENT(3) manpage. I don't think this is what it refers to, since lwres_gethostbyname_r() takes 4 arguments, not 5. Regardless, the build fails here: cc -O -pipe -pthread -o .libs/clamav-milter cfgparser.o getopt.o memory.o m= isc.o clamav-milter.o -pthread -L/usr/local/lib ../libclamav/.libs/libclam= av.so -lldap -lbz2 -lgmp -lcurl -lidn -lssl -lcrypto -lz -lmilter -pthread = -lwrap -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib clamav-milter.o(.text+0x5708): In function `clamfi_gethostbyname': : undefined reference to `gethostbyname_r' *** Error code 1 Anyone have any idea why the configuration is finding gethostbyname_r() when it's not there? BTW, I'm running on 5.4 RELEASE-p1 TIA Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Crenna's Law of Political Accountability: If you are the first to know about something bad, you are going to be held responsible for acting on it, regardless of your formal duties. --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCuYfcr4Wi/oDI2aIRAlfDAJwOMyChK5Ef2i1S8t9kU4F6KEJo7QCeNUFd Dw5H10s/gP3PG4uAMeB83e4= =2bXg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 15:47:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9D816A41F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:47:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mats.lindberg@se.transport.bombardier.com) Received: from smtp2.transport.bombardier.com (smtp2.transport.bombardier.com [20.133.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0CA43D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:47:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mats.lindberg@se.transport.bombardier.com) Received: from EMEAML02.UK.BOMBARDIER.TRANSPORT.COM (emea-ml02.atle.bombardier.com [10.157.248.22]) by smtp2.transport.bombardier.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id j5MFlOGk024080 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:47:24 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0 September 26, 2002 Message-ID: From: mats.lindberg@se.transport.bombardier.com Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:00:07 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on EMEA-ML02/Server/Transport/Bombardier(Release 6.0.3|September 18, 2003) at 06/22/2005 16:49:35 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Subject: Generating coredump's from within a signal handler. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:59:14 -0000 >The vast majority of panics are hardware-related. It is rare nowadays >for a usermode program to make the system panic. In particular you said >the problem happens more under load. That really points even more to a >hardware problem - bad CPU cache ram, bad ram, scsi termination, that >sort of thing. > >Ted > > This is kind of going to be a blanket post to all the recent suggestions to me. I appreciate suggestions :) Ted, sorry, my other posts had dmesg and hardware specs, etc. I just couldn't remember the subject line of that thread. I'll be more descriptive here. We have two different servers crashing. Both are SMP, but on different hardware. We have five freeBSD servers in total, and only two are affected. That is why I do not believe this is a hardware problem. In any case, the machines are in a cold room where the temperature is constantly maintained. 20 other servers in there are perfectly stable, with no probs. This particular machine that crashed last night while running portsdb -uU is a Super Micro machine, with hyperthreading disabled in the bios, dual CPU 3.06 ghz, with 4 gigs memory. We ran mem test on orion (the machine that crashed last night) a week or so ago, and it found 70,000 ECC errors. Those were fixed and that machine has been stable until last night. I've now disabled SMP support, we'll see if that keeps it stable or not. Portsdb -uU ran without problems after I disabled SMP. As far as uranus, the other box (we keep a planet scheme for a certain set of servers), we ran memtest86 and found no errors at all. That box crashed about two days ago but has been stable since. It has not lasted more than a week without doing a kernel trap and freezing. It seems that both these servers have this problem. Out of the five FreeBSD servers we have, these two are the ones with the highest load. Maybe a higher load on the other three servers would cause the same problem. I agree with you that this is a hardware problem, but on more than one server with two different architectures and our highest load makes me re-consider. If this is truly a bug in FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE, maybe this is something that has been fixed in -stable? I will compile a debug kernel today and try to provide a trace to the problem. I'll do it on which ever server crashes next. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:02:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C0316A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:02:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13CE43D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:02:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) (209.6.197.67) by smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2005 12:02:09 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.93,221,1115006400"; d="scan'208"; a="50380186:sNHT19725328" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17081.35421.522437.406965@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:57:17 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050622154637.GE67917@keyslapper.net> References: <20050622154637.GE67917@keyslapper.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta21) "corn" (+CVS-20050527) XEmacs Lucid Subject: clamav build link error (reference to gethostbyname_r) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:02:11 -0000 Louis LeBlanc writes: > Anyone have any idea why the configuration is finding > gethostbyname_r() when it's not there? Possibly the maintainer, with whom I am currently trading e-mail. Will you please send them a note indicating you're having problems also, so they'll know it isn't just my snafu? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:05:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B93516A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0370343D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [198.182.157.164] (dhcp7164.calarts.edu [198.182.157.164]) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j5MG5Ip00817 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:05:20 -0700 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Goals for 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:05:23 -0000 Where can I find the design goals for FreeBSD 6 and Current? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:11:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830F616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:11:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Received: from zero.ramb.com.ua (zero.ramb.com.ua [62.149.0.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA45F43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:11:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Received: from server.webinfo.int (ip.82.144.202.143.stat-9.volia.net [82.144.202.143]) by zero.ramb.com.ua (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5MJGAIr064062; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:16:16 GMT (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:10:46 +0300 From: fenix@ramb.com.ua X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <945588776.20050622191046@ramb.com.ua> To: Matt Juszczak In-Reply-To: <42B98AD0.7080508@atopia.net> References: <42B98AD0.7080508@atopia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/893/Tue May 24 06:27:20 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on zero.ramb.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=6.3 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on zero.ramb.com.ua Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fenix@ramb.com.ua List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:11:06 -0000 Hello, Matt. >>The vast majority of panics are hardware-related. It is rare nowadays >>for a usermode program to make the system panic. In particular you said >>the problem happens more under load. That really points even more to a >>hardware problem - bad CPU cache ram, bad ram, scsi termination, that >>sort of thing. >> >>Ted >> >> > This is kind of going to be a blanket post to all the recent suggestions > to me. I appreciate suggestions :) Ted, sorry, my other posts had > dmesg and hardware specs, etc. I just couldn't remember the subject line > of that thread. I'll be more descriptive here. > We have two different servers crashing. Both are SMP, but on different > hardware. We have five freeBSD servers in total, and only two are > affected. That is why I do not believe this is a hardware problem. > In any case, the machines are in a cold room where the temperature is > constantly maintained. 20 other servers in there are perfectly stable, > with no probs. > This particular machine that crashed last night while running portsdb > -uU is a Super Micro machine, with hyperthreading disabled in the bios, > dual CPU 3.06 ghz, with 4 gigs memory. We ran mem test on orion (the > machine that crashed last night) a week or so ago, and it found 70,000 > ECC errors. Those were fixed and that machine has been stable until > last night. I've now disabled SMP support, we'll see if that keeps it > stable or not. Portsdb -uU ran without problems after I disabled SMP. > As far as uranus, the other box (we keep a planet scheme for a certain > set of servers), we ran memtest86 and found no errors at all. That box > crashed about two days ago but has been stable since. It has not lasted > more than a week without doing a kernel trap and freezing. > It seems that both these servers have this problem. Out of the five > FreeBSD servers we have, these two are the ones with the highest load. > Maybe a higher load on the other three servers would cause the same > problem. I agree with you that this is a hardware problem, but on more > than one server with two different architectures and our highest load > makes me re-consider. > If this is truly a bug in FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE, maybe this is something > that has been fixed in -stable? I will compile a debug kernel today and > try to provide a trace to the problem. I'll do it on which ever server > crashes next. I had same situation with to different high loaded servers (both SMP, with 8Gb of ram, and HT enabled,), with 5.4 Release, after disabeling HT and cvsup OS to 5.4-stable all working fine without any problems, last reboot was 28 days ago. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best regards, Sergey S. Ropchan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:12:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB7816A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BE743D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Dl7pd-00099Y-Gd; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:12:07 -0600 In-Reply-To: <42B98AD0.7080508@atopia.net> References: <42B98AD0.7080508@atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <41AD7E3D-E59C-4AAF-803F-11048A005D44@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:12:04 -0600 To: Matt Juszczak X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: freebsd-questions questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:09 -0000 On Jun 22, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Matt Juszczak wrote: > > >> The vast majority of panics are hardware-related. It is rare >> nowadays >> for a usermode program to make the system panic. In particular >> you said >> the problem happens more under load. That really points even more >> to a >> hardware problem - bad CPU cache ram, bad ram, scsi termination, that >> sort of thing. >> >> Ted >> >> > > This is kind of going to be a blanket post to all the recent > suggestions to me. I appreciate suggestions :) Ted, sorry, my > other posts had dmesg and hardware specs, etc. I just couldn't > remember the subject line of that thread. I'll be more descriptive > here. > > We have two different servers crashing. Both are SMP, but on > different hardware. We have five freeBSD servers in total, and > only two are affected. That is why I do not believe this is a > hardware problem. > > In any case, the machines are in a cold room where the temperature > is constantly maintained. 20 other servers in there are perfectly > stable, with no probs. > > This particular machine that crashed last night while running > portsdb -uU is a Super Micro machine, with hyperthreading disabled > in the bios, dual CPU 3.06 ghz, with 4 gigs memory. We ran mem > test on orion (the machine that crashed last night) a week or so > ago, and it found 70,000 ECC errors. Those were fixed and that > machine has been stable until last night. I've now disabled SMP > support, we'll see if that keeps it stable or not. Portsdb -uU ran > without problems after I disabled SMP. > > As far as uranus, the other box (we keep a planet scheme for a > certain set of servers), we ran memtest86 and found no errors at > all. That box crashed about two days ago but has been stable > since. It has not lasted more than a week without doing a kernel > trap and freezing. > > It seems that both these servers have this problem. Out of the > five FreeBSD servers we have, these two are the ones with the > highest load. Maybe a higher load on the other three servers would > cause the same problem. I agree with you that this is a hardware > problem, but on more than one server with two different > architectures and our highest load makes me re-consider. > > If this is truly a bug in FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE, maybe this is > something that has been fixed in -stable? I will compile a debug > kernel today and try to provide a trace to the problem. I'll do it > on which ever server crashes next. What do they have in common? Disk controller? Network controller? Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:12:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482A116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.net) Received: from mx1.exponential-e.net (ixbl-sun-02.exponential-e.net [62.244.177.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F8B43D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.net) Received: from 62-244-182-25.cust.exponential-e.net ([62.244.182.25]:34892 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx1.exponential-e.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dl7qH-0000Uj-CI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:45 +0000 Message-ID: <42B98DFD.3050400@exponential-e.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:12:45 +0100 From: Jim Mozley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0525-2, 22/06/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: support for ICH6R controller and Broadcom ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:47 -0000 scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I think it's not a answer to you but here is my recent experience. > I've installed FBSD 5.4 in a box with Intel ICH5R chipset. > It's working, no hangs, no panics, but the disk performance on the > second IDE disk (I'm not using RAID, just simple master/slave setup), is > terrible. > It's like the DMA was not correctly set on the second disk. > I read somewhere, that FreeBSD has full support to ICH5 chipset > but NOT for ICH5"R". > Even when running in "compatibility mode" set on BIOS, the > performance is the same. > > Someone told me the follwing on the performance list: > > "I remember a commit to the ata driver to fix misprogramming of > DMA timing on an Intel chipset for devices and/or channels other than the > first. I'm not sure if 5.4 has the bug or the fix." > > To me it still has the bug. OK thanks for that help. If anyone knows anything more definitive I'd be grateful (no criticism of the helpful reply intended). Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:14:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209C616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:14:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Received: from zero.ramb.com.ua (zero.ramb.com.ua [62.149.0.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A45243D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:14:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Received: from server.webinfo.int (ip.82.144.202.143.stat-9.volia.net [82.144.202.143]) by zero.ramb.com.ua (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5MJJOgj064084; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:19:27 GMT (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:14:00 +0300 From: fenix@ramb.com.ua X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5310240853.20050622191400@ramb.com.ua> To: Sean Murphy In-Reply-To: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> References: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/893/Tue May 24 06:27:20 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on zero.ramb.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=6.3 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on zero.ramb.com.ua Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Goals for 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fenix@ramb.com.ua List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:14:17 -0000 Hello, Sean. Try to read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html#CURRENT > Where can I find the design goals for FreeBSD 6 and Current? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best regards, Sergey S. Ropchan mailto:fenix@ramb.com.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:16:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14F616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFDB43D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:16:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5MGGcUp032051; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:16:38 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5MGGcGb011953; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:16:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5MGGbYe011952; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:16:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:16:37 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: mats.lindberg@se.transport.bombardier.com Message-ID: <20050622161636.GA11708@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Generating coredump's from within a signal handler. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:16:41 -0000 On 2005-06-22 16:00, mats.lindberg@se.transport.bombardier.com wrote: > I'm writing a program that when receiving a SIGTERM > shall generate a coredump of itself and exit. > This coredump shall be analysed later on using gdb. > I've tried to raise(SIGABRT) when handling SIGTERM, > this generates a coredump, but the stack seems messed > up when examining it with gdb. The stack *is* ``messed up'' when a program runs within a signal handler (where ``messed up'' means signal handlers are not called as normal C functions, but are entered on exit from a system call using special stack magic). What do you see in the gdb backtrace that seems ``messed up''? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:18:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F0B16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:18:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6E843D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:18:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [198.182.157.164] (dhcp7164.calarts.edu [198.182.157.164]) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j5MGIjp02566 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42B98F67.5060200@calarts.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:18:47 -0700 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> <5310240853.20050622191400@ramb.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <5310240853.20050622191400@ramb.com.ua> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Goals for 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:18:46 -0000 fenix@ramb.com.ua wrote: > Hello, Sean. > > Try to read this: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html#CURRENT > > > >>Where can I find the design goals for FreeBSD 6 and Current? >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > I was not looking for the difference between them. I was looking to more what the current goals of those projects such as SMP or the Filesystem etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:38:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB8116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:38:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Received: from zero.ramb.com.ua (zero.ramb.com.ua [62.149.0.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B9B43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:38:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Received: from server.webinfo.int (ip.82.144.202.143.stat-9.volia.net [82.144.202.143]) by zero.ramb.com.ua (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5MJhh1n064675; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:43:49 GMT (envelope-from fenix@ramb.com.ua) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:38:20 +0300 From: fenix@ramb.com.ua X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10810065989.20050622193820@ramb.com.ua> To: Sean Murphy In-Reply-To: <42B98F67.5060200@calarts.edu> References: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> <5310240853.20050622191400@ramb.com.ua> <42B98F67.5060200@calarts.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/893/Tue May 24 06:27:20 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on zero.ramb.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=6.3 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on zero.ramb.com.ua Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Goals for 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fenix@ramb.com.ua List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:38:41 -0000 > fenix@ramb.com.ua wrote: >> Hello, Sean. >>=20 >> Try to read this: >>=20 >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable= .html#CURRENT >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>>Where can I find the design goals for FreeBSD 6 and Current? >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 > I was not looking for the difference between them. I was looking to more > what the current goals of those projects such as SMP or the Filesystem et= c. Ok, maybe this link will be helpful: http://kerneltrap.org/node/585 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 =D1 =F3=E2=E0=E6=E5=ED=E8=E5=EC, fenix mailto:fenix@ramb.com.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:44:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C2816A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:44:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F0543D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:44:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8934D102EBA; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B923102EB3 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 199.181.134.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user casey) by mail.phantombsd.org with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:44:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Casey Scott" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Subject: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:44:17 -0000 Is it possible to get pkg_info, or some other command, to show what package contains a file? E.g. find what package has /usr/local/bin/convert Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:45:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B76316A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:45:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdnode@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D03943D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:45:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdnode@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so343434wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:45:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=sS93glGOM8yLdLYZJs4xBf6y8rwRdVDY52DErBysedUL83vKl9RHgBjGYJYFOB6lCPzyvjrGjz9DyoWX+BatKqfoeys8Io7cim7yd9IC00pVIImYCRvwHm7f0Gqvcacu6Cbp+OpDNixR7xsmb/JtDuxH8ZAnCq34c0FNYonEW8U= Received: by 10.54.143.4 with SMTP id q4mr556211wrd; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.72 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <40356a6605062209382648432c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:38:47 -0400 From: Bruno Gallant To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Raising temperature threshold X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bruno Gallant List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:45:13 -0000 Hi, I don't think it is advisable to put your machine under such strain. I think 60C is already very hot for regular parts, and that it is proper that the machine would shutdown . Unless you have a special military kind of hardware, I am sure that more than 60C will reduce the MTBF of your hardware, and maybe void your warranty if you have one. It would be interesting to know if that setting can be changed to a _lower_ value, in fact. --=20 # Bruno Gallant - scion@bsdnode.net - bsdnode@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:50:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CBB16A41C; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E7F43D49; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23529881 for multiple; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:14:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:51:54 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20050622115154.25e1ffbe@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <42B8EAE0.6050809@pacific.net.sg> References: <20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050621224511.7416ac57@vixen42.local.lan> <42B8EAE0.6050809@pacific.net.sg> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 33, in=61, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:28 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:36:48 +0800 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > Ignorant useless users should be supported by commercial ventures, > > not community ones. They will just drag the community down with > > their weight if they don't help out. > > > This would be the real tough one. > > There should also be a way to write some kind of descripton for the > people between. > > > I found the handbook to be useful in this area. > > Yes, if you understand it. It is written be serious IT > professionals for serious IT professionals. Even a serious none IT > professional has problems understanding it. > > Our problem is that we all do not know the people who would speak > the language none IT professionals understand. > > The original writer sounds like being skilled enough to have > serious try on this one if he gets the information he needs for > this. I also had too read up on various unix tutorials as well. I feel the handbook could be made clearer in some areas, but I believe it is good in general. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:50:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD8816A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C3143D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j5MGoRl4021826; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:50:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:50:27 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Casey Scott Message-ID: <20050622165027.GB49171@dan.emsphone.com> References: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:29 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 22), Casey Scott said: > Is it possible to get pkg_info, or some other command, to show what > package contains a file? > > E.g. find what package has /usr/local/bin/convert pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/convert Or if you have portupgrade installed, "pkg_which /usr/local/bin/convert" is faster. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 16:52:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7892516A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:52:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flanagan.matt@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4056B43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:52:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flanagan.matt@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so451829nzp for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:52:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZQEycIf7m2LUng3aZFIrvOZvaAe3tfbpHEF57SPDApHBVkcE+F+n4DGpwvtUC2M96jJp9MMcwNq+l3O4VxVAjqsUQ1IItJy83HrBxR2c9uB85q0fxShA7SLE8PpPDv6W5ipoG74vR4K2huuq1fMQmOKHxF4jc575bekRRSshpjE= Received: by 10.36.34.15 with SMTP id h15mr660967nzh; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.126.4 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cd06a2d050622095256dfe43a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:52:22 -0300 From: Matthew Flanagan To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <44br5y5r8o.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7cd06a2d05062205331d03372c@mail.gmail.com> <44br5y5r8o.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Raising temperature threshold X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthew Flanagan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:52:23 -0000 On 22 Jun 2005 11:46:31 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Matthew Flanagan writes: >=20 > > I`ve installed a FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and I was building some ports when= =20 > > suddenly my system shut down. Upon rebooting it and checking=20 > > /var/log/messages, I found the following lines: > >=20 > > Jun 21 16:01:30 bell root: WARNING: system temperature too high, > > shutting down soon! > > Jun 21 16:01:40 bell kernel: acpi_tz0: WARNING - current temperature > > (60.0C) exceeds safe limits > >=20 > > Then I realized what had happened. My acpi_thermal sysctl's are: > >=20 > > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 > > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 50.0C > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 0 > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 1 > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 50.0C > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 60.0C > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 50.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 > >=20 > > When I try to raise hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT to 85C (which is the > threshold in > > the BIOS setup) it doesn't work: > >=20 > > bell# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=3D3580 # 3580 tenths of Kelvin= =3D85C > > sysctl: oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT' is read only > >=20 > > I've tried /etc/sysctl.conf as well, but I get the same error. > >=20 > > Now, my question is: how do I change this value? I've read several > manpages > > (acpi(4), acpi_thermal(4), acpiconf(8), and many others) and checked th= e > > handbook, to no avail. Can anyone point me to the right direction? >=20 > Can it be set at boot time? [from the loader?] Perhaps, but loader(8) lists the kernel tunable parameters available, and hw.acpi.thermal.tz%d._CRT isn't one of them. Cheers, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:00:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6199C16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:00:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl (smtp1.versatel.nl [62.58.50.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8B943D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:00:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 23986 invoked by uid 10); 22 Jun 2005 17:00:19 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 23976-392D58FD invoked from network) 22 Jun 2005 19:00:18 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.5.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 22 Jun 2005 17:00:18 -0000 Message-ID: <42B99926.8020309@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:00:22 +0200 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050521) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.30.0.2; VDF: 6.30.0.11; host: postbode01.zonnet.nl) Cc: Subject: Showing transfer rates with cp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:00:23 -0000 Hey, I have a rather small and maybe silly question but I it will provide me a lot info. I would like to see transfer rates when I use 'cp'. At home I have a FreeBSD server with a couple harddiscs in them. I work on my laptop and mount the discs from the server using NFS. But when copying files from server to laptop or vice versa I have no idea how long it will take before it is finished. Is there a way to show those speeds ? I also checked with scp but when mounted it kind of act like 'cp' and doesn't show anything Thanks in advance -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:14:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E27F16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3767A43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF62409C; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42B99C8C.5030608@atopia.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:14:52 -0400 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fenix@ramb.com.ua References: <42B98AD0.7080508@atopia.net> <945588776.20050622191046@ramb.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <945588776.20050622191046@ramb.com.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:14:53 -0000 >I had same situation with to different high loaded servers (both SMP, with 8Gb of >ram, and HT enabled,), with 5.4 Release, after disabeling HT and cvsup >OS to 5.4-stable all working fine without any problems, last reboot was 28 >days ago. > > > > That's exactly our config. SMP, 4 gb RAM, HT was enabled, no longer. Should I upgrade to 5.4-STABLE? Is there a bug ? Is 5.4-STABLE "stable" enough? :) Also, if I cvsup to 5.4-STABLE right now, would I be able to upgrade to 5.5-RELEASE with no probs, or would I forever be at -STABLE? Thanks, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:19:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E6E16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A34A43D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D0DF102EBD; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCA9102C68; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 199.181.134.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user casey) by mail.phantombsd.org with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29955.199.181.134.212.1119460796.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050622165027.GB49171@dan.emsphone.com> References: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <20050622165027.GB49171@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:19:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Casey Scott" To: "Dan Nelson" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Cc: Casey Scott , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:19:56 -0000 Sorry, I meant I need to know what package a file belongs to that does not exist in the file system already. I need to know where to get something, not where it came from. > In the last episode (Jun 22), Casey Scott said: >> Is it possible to get pkg_info, or some other command, to show what >> package contains a file? >> >> E.g. find what package has /usr/local/bin/convert > > pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/convert > > Or if you have portupgrade installed, "pkg_which > /usr/local/bin/convert" is faster. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:23:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AD716A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:23:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f12.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE2243D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:23:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:23:15 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 200.108.17.69 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:23:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.108.17.69] X-Originating-Email: [stephanweaver@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stephanweaver@hotmail.com From: "Stephan Weaver" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 17:23:15.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[132C9DE0:01C5774F] Subject: Share Printers, Printing Long. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:23:16 -0000 Hello, I have suscessfully installed my DSL MODEM Behind my FREEBSD Firewall. Ever Since i have done this, i noticed that my windows users, when trying to print to shared printers, it takes very long for them to access the printers. I have an empty ipf.rules and my ip nat rules looks like map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 my dhcp.conf looks like >cat /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf option domain-name "pizzaboys.org"; option domain-name-servers 192.3.132.1, 196.3.132.4; default-lease-time 86400; max-lease-time 86400; authoritative; ddns-update-style none; log-facility local1; subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.200; option routers 192.168.0.2; } Any Assistance Please stephanweaver@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:32:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D6716A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:32:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97E443D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:32:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5MHVxju030165; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:31:59 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5MHVwqL012570; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:31:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5MHVwns012569; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:31:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:31:58 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Frank Staals Message-ID: <20050622173158.GB12475@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <42B99926.8020309@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B99926.8020309@gmx.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Showing transfer rates with cp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:32:02 -0000 On 2005-06-22 19:00, Frank Staals wrote: > I have a rather small and maybe silly question but I it will provide me > a lot info. I would like to see transfer rates when I use 'cp'. At home > I have a FreeBSD server with a couple harddiscs in them. I work on my > laptop and mount the discs from the server using NFS. But when copying > files from server to laptop or vice versa I have no idea how long it > will take before it is finished. Is there a way to show those speeds ? I > also checked with scp but when mounted it kind of act like 'cp' and > doesn't show anything Hint... while the cp(1) operation is running, just press ^T (or whatever "status" is assigned to in your terminal setup) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:33:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4683616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:33:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F52F43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:33:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78955389156 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:33:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:33:30 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002101c576c3$c9f034b0$4ef471d5@gladbard> References: <002101c576c3$c9f034b0$4ef471d5@gladbard> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Xorg installation fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:33:33 -0000 --On Wednesday, June 22, 2005 02:46:12 +0200 Simon Ulfsbecker wrote: > Hi readers, > > I would greatly appreciate any suggestions as to why my Xorg installation > fails. > Xorg.0.log file can be fetched at: > > http://hem.bredband.net/simulf/Xorg.0.log > > During standard installation of freeBSD 5.4 my logitech USB 3 button mouse > fails to be detected, but when doing a post install mouse configuration > the > pointer shows up and can be moved around when testing the mouse deamon. > Still, my mouse pointer is reported as missing when running Xorg -config > xorg.conf.new after that. > Using a USB to PS/2-adapter might do the trick, but adhering to moore's > law, my motherboard (Asus p4p800 deluxe) can't handle a PS/2 mouse for > some odd reason. My box won't boot and the monitor wont power on having > anything plugged into the PS/2 port (!). > > Some errors are also reported for my ATI Radeon 9800 pro GFX adapter, but > I > think it's the non present pointer device that is hindering me from doing > an > Xorg -config. > > I'm out of clues... > This works fine for my usb mouse: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:35:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DD916A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D919943D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:34:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so14974wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L7uZt5UX937xRWJfa0S45Z+WMipydTKaP8Q+od33fb+ErTHRgVG6i0kbn2WH2GeTYJeS11SwGXIKdo3Ivzgh53G09ezgsEzajCDSJJDykSj4fM19wAwLE6qaJFvKB2XBqg5Bf3s9y1UzYv7aw0uU8PZYt2TXQ3n+VEaLE/yUUHg= Received: by 10.54.46.30 with SMTP id t30mr582703wrt; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.4 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <126eac4805062210346fb6a221@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:34:59 -0400 From: Josh Ockert To: fenix@ramb.com.ua In-Reply-To: <10810065989.20050622193820@ramb.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> <5310240853.20050622191400@ramb.com.ua> <42B98F67.5060200@calarts.edu> <10810065989.20050622193820@ramb.com.ua> Cc: Sean Murphy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Goals for 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:35:00 -0000 Ja dumaju chto vy ni vizhili chto on govorit o FreeBSD 6. I don't know that FreeBSD 6 design goals have been announced anywhere; in fact, FreeBSD 6 isn't even listed on the front page, and hasn't even had a New Technology release. At this point, I think FreeBSD 6 only exists because we basically need a Sith Apprentice (okay, maybe I'm carrying this a bit far, but there are always two of them, -STABLE and -CURRENT... and Ep.3 is still on my mind...) now that 5.x is -STABLE. It may be that 6.x will be more of an evolutionary series than revolutionary, and that its purpose is mostly to let SMPng mature and kill the Giant Lock, and hopefully let ACPI mature as well. You might have more luck getting a straight answer from the -current mailing list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 17:50:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34FE16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:50:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D48D43D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:50:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so330484nzp for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BY0uxjWKVSZNk1ByL0bSXdKQeNWH/GaykA9HHjwGoY1zPATCGinknFk5aRYcCsBciXr0+hG3pDkj+98C9vgA7LMaS3GaJwXhv8Awtq9BdJAGB6sGcZXNUdzJ8uVPl5slANmBUmiD0VWJOYWkfpFbIWA3yfBzGlRi3oJ4RIM3B7g= Received: by 10.36.158.3 with SMTP id g3mr752284nze; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.19.5 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:50:47 -0400 From: Danny To: Josh Ockert In-Reply-To: <126eac4805062210346fb6a221@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> <5310240853.20050622191400@ramb.com.ua> <42B98F67.5060200@calarts.edu> <10810065989.20050622193820@ramb.com.ua> <126eac4805062210346fb6a221@mail.gmail.com> Cc: fenix@ramb.com.ua, Sean Murphy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Goals for 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:50:48 -0000 On 6/22/05, Josh Ockert wrote: > Ja dumaju chto vy ni vizhili chto on govorit o FreeBSD 6. >=20 > I don't know that FreeBSD 6 design goals have been announced anywhere; > in fact, FreeBSD 6 isn't even listed on the front page, and hasn't > even had a New Technology release. At this point, I think FreeBSD 6 > only exists because we basically need a Sith Apprentice (okay, maybe > I'm carrying this a bit far, but there are always two of them, -STABLE > and -CURRENT... and Ep.3 is still on my mind...) now that 5.x is > -STABLE. [...] Read the release engineering section of the FreeBSD site. ...D --=20 CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 18:14:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9866F16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lei.sun@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5532B43D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lei.sun@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so10235wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:14:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gQd/0S5mfueWUkqeLQmPhmdq9Zc64UNAGF3IO1dPzzHFJePIAOrPliqONKnRlKyUaeAAYhKeb6c+9iKLaQKXQmeAC58RdX1kjERnmrotWoQQ9N+11bvgfLHkUYAFUs7VQYkr5Z4Bb5NfSHQlE9QiXFU4TXvXSXjSUdt4vT2de4I= Received: by 10.54.57.56 with SMTP id f56mr592916wra; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.6.72 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:48:49 -0700 From: Lei Sun To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050622115154.25e1ffbe@vixen42.local.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050620195539.1B3E54C35B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050621224511.7416ac57@vixen42.local.lan> <42B8EAE0.6050809@pacific.net.sg> <20050622115154.25e1ffbe@vixen42.local.lan> Cc: Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lei Sun List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:14:36 -0000 After all, someone is trying to do something good for freebsd, by making freebsd known by more and more people. Most people are lazy, we tend to prefer immediate results rather than a long term process and commitment. I think this is understandable. Of course, there will be a lot of newbies coming, some of them will stay and some of them will find it too difficult, and leave. That's the way it is. Same goes with linux. If it just sounds powerful, and hard for people to get their hands dirty by just setting one up and see what it looks like and maybe how it works, then linux wouldn't be this popular now. You would hear that "Someone has burned a linux CD and just don't have time to install it, but linux is easy and sounds really cool and makes people curious", and you wouldn't hear the same thing about freebsd. Most of the none unix IT friends I have all had a "EXTREMELY HARD" impression on Freebsd, and they found linux extremely easy. That's indeed not true. It really only takes a normal person several hours to flip through the HANDBOOK to at least know his/her way around, and this is really as "easy" as linux. But, it make sence, that people would like to see the product, before using it or even know more about it. Much like a person would prefer trying out a service for free before he/she decides to invest more money and time into it. Also, one must first be a newbie in something, then become more and more professional while he/she is learning. A lot of you might be good at Freebsd, but very new to something else. Would you prefer to hear someone telling you, "Hey! This is only for Professional! There is not even a newbie version for you! So don't slow us down by getting out of our way!" That's not friendly at all, right? I perfectly agree that Freebsd is a serious OS from serious people, that's why I choose freebsd :) and I would rather see freebsd be more and more popular than linux!!! Truely!!! It is indeed a very good OS. So let's be nice, and find ways help the new comers without disturbing the ones, who are not interested in the easy questions, instead of turning them away. We all love FreeBSD, don't we? Lei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 18:15:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BC116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:15:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F6843D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:15:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734C012397A; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DB912B0FD; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04635-10; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:13:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6DF12B02A; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:13:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B9AA56.7010907@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:13:42 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Casey Scott References: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <20050622165027.GB49171@dan.emsphone.com> <29955.199.181.134.212.1119460796.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <29955.199.181.134.212.1119460796.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:15:19 -0000 Casey Scott wrote: > Sorry, I meant I need to know what package a file belongs to that does not > exist in the file system already. I need to know where to get something, > not where it came from. My CVSup script executes find /usr/ports -name "pkg-plist*" > /path/to/somewhere after an update of the ports directory. Thus I can search a file with cat /path/to/somewhere | xargs grep 'pattern' This method is quick and dirty and does not cover all ports because some of them have no pkg-plist file in their directory. Those ports use the PLIST_FILES variable in their Makefile instead or generate a plist file dynamically. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 18:28:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C590F16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:28:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABC943D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:28:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 236B4102EBA; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F59102C81; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 199.181.134.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user casey) by mail.phantombsd.org with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <16618.199.181.134.212.1119464924.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <42B9AA56.7010907@cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <20050622165027.GB49171@dan.emsphone.com> <29955.199.181.134.212.1119460796.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <42B9AA56.7010907@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Casey Scott" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Cc: Casey Scott , Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:28:46 -0000 Thanks. Good idea. How about this, its a little easier. #find ./ -name 'pkg-plist*' | xargs grep 'bin/convert' Casey > Casey Scott wrote: > >> Sorry, I meant I need to know what package a file belongs to that does >> not >> exist in the file system already. I need to know where to get something, >> not where it came from. > > My CVSup script executes > > find /usr/ports -name "pkg-plist*" > /path/to/somewhere > > after an update of the ports directory. Thus I can search a file with > > cat /path/to/somewhere | xargs grep 'pattern' > > This method is quick and dirty and does not cover all ports because some > of them have no pkg-plist file in their directory. Those ports use the > PLIST_FILES variable in their Makefile instead or generate a plist file > dynamically. > > Björn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 18:49:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF71A16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:49:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jtrigg@spamcop.net) Received: from argent.heraldsnet.org (argent.heraldsnet.org [64.83.41.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC4E43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:49:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jtrigg@spamcop.net) Received: from mail.scadian.net (localhost.scadian.net [127.0.0.1]) by argent.heraldsnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD91B484; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 128.221.197.136 (SquirrelMail authenticated user blaise) by mail.scadian.net with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15260.128.221.197.136.1119466158.squirrel@mail.scadian.net> In-Reply-To: <42B9AA56.7010907@cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <20050622165027.GB49171@dan.emsphone.com> <29955.199.181.134.212.1119460796.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <42B9AA56.7010907@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:49:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jim Trigg" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:49:22 -0000 On Wed, June 22, 2005 2:13 pm, Björn König said: > Thus I can search a file with > > cat /path/to/somewhere | xargs grep 'pattern' You can avoid wasting a process by using the following instead: xargs grep 'pattern' < /path/to/somewhere Jim -- Jim Trigg, Lord High Everything Else O- /"\ Hostmaster, Huie Kin family website \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Verger and System Administrator, X HELP CURE HTML MAIL All Saints Church - Sharon Chapel / \ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 18:52:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6739E16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:52:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BC743D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:52:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from lightning (12-202-24-76.client.insightbb.com[12.202.24.76]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050622185214i9200auhqfe>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:52:14 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:52:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506221452.08729.FreeBSD@InsightBB.com> Subject: syscons features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:52:15 -0000 Can anyone explain to me the mechanism behind the following: If I echo B^HB | more I get a bold B. more is somehow activating? a feature of syscons (or the vga driver). Are there any other utilities like more that do this? Is this behavior documented in a man page ? -- i386 FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE There are 10 types of people in this world. Ones that understand binary and then, the others. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 18:53:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E08E16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:53:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6E643D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:53:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050622185259.WDOF14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:52:59 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Gene" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:52:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B7FD20.2000406@Bomgardner.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Anyone using doormand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:53:01 -0000 I read your post and was interested about what doorman does so I installed it on my 5.4 system. Running doormand from the command line does start the daemon after the .cf and guestlist pass syntax test. You will see it running with ps ax command. Remember doorman creates firewall rules on the fly to allow the TCP packets pass through the firewall and then removes them at the close of the session. Your firewall rules must pass inbound udp packets on port 1001. If you have that closed in you firewall rules doorman will never be triggered. I found running doormand -D will display any config file syntax errors to the console. If you change from the default /var/log/messages log file you have to give the new log file permission of rwx just for root user. That maybe why you see nothing in your custom log. I have not got it working yet on allowing telnet in from public internet. I am testing it using ipfilter firewall. You also have to create /usr/local/etc/rc.d/doormand.sh script so doormand will be started at boot time. Will let you know my results later. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:42 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG Subject: Anyone using doormand Has anyone implemented the doorman port knocking package? I tried to get it going on 5.4, but when I start doormand, I can find no evidence of it listening to it's default port (1001). I've checked the config (see below) but all seems correct. I can find no mention of doormand or port 1001 in the output of netstat or sockstat. Knocks have no discernible effect, telnet connections are refused, and there is nothing in the doorman's log file. Any ideas? Thanks Gene The doormand.cf file: # # 'doormand.cf' # # interface rl1 port 1001 waitfor 10 connection_delay_1 100000 # 1/10th second (delay is in microseconds) connection_delay_2 2 logfile /var/log/doorman-messages loglevel debug pidfile /var/run/doormand.pid guestlist /usr/local/etc/doormand/guestlist firewall-add /usr/local/etc/doormand/ipf_add firewall-del /usr/local/etc/doormand/ipf_delete tag-queue-length 100000 tag-queue /var/doorman_tag_queue tag-db /var/doorman_tag_db.db _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 19:05:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A67A16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D9B43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:05:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout15/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j5MJ5vdX027708; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.153] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j5MJ5tSw004911; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:05:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200506221452.08729.FreeBSD@InsightBB.com> References: <200506221452.08729.FreeBSD@InsightBB.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:06:06 -0400 To: Steven Friedrich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syscons features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:05:58 -0000 On Jun 22, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > Can anyone explain to me the mechanism behind the following: > > If I echo B^HB | more > > I get a bold B. more is somehow activating? a feature of syscons > (or the vga > driver). > > Are there any other utilities like more that do this? Is this > behavior > documented in a man page ? Yes. From "man less" (your more is probably really less): -U or --UNDERLINE-SPECIAL Causes backspaces, tabs and carriage returns to be treated as control characters; that is, they are handled as specified by the -r option. By default, if neither -u nor -U is given, backspaces which appear adjacent to an underscore character are treated spe- cially: the underlined text is displayed using the terminal's hardware underlining capability. Also, backspaces which appear between two identical characters are treated specially: the overstruck text is printed using the terminal's hardware bold- face capability. Other backspaces are deleted, along with the preceding character. Carriage returns immediately followed by a newline are deleted. other carriage returns are handled as specified by the -r option. Text which is overstruck or under- lined can be searched for if neither -u nor -U is in effect. This is using the $TERM setting via termcap or terminfo. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 19:32:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976C916A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:32:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay17-f23.bay17.hotmail.com [64.4.43.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853BD43D5D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:32:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:32:33 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 61.90.63.56 by by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:32:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [61.90.63.56] X-Originating-Email: [th_nuttapon@hotmail.com] X-Sender: th_nuttapon@hotmail.com From: "Nuttapon Tharachaikul" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:32:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 19:32:33.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[2314B5A0:01C57761] Cc: Subject: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:32:33 -0000 To Support, I'm interest on BSD-OS. Please advise me , I'm new to study Linux. 1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly. But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for what ? - CHECKSUM.MD5 2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I check this. Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can handler about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB or not ? Have any reference information's source the explain the purpose and how to handle of its. If I would like to order "SD 5.4 and Handbook, 3rd Edition, Users Guide Bundle" from FreeBSD-Mall and ship to Thailand. 1. How much ship-cost to delivery this media ? 2. How long for delivery ? 3. And Could you give me for discount ? Best Regards, Nuttapon Tharachaikul Thailand. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 19:40:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB7216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:40:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54D643D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:40:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout14/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j5MJeNUI018805; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.153] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j5MJeIwT012158; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:40:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6F73A662-977C-4EBC-B5D4-B696FA9BF8C1@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:40:30 -0400 To: Nuttapon Tharachaikul X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:40:24 -0000 On Jun 22, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote: > 1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly. > But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used > for what ? > - CHECKSUM.MD5 If you run md5 (called "md5sum" sometimes) on the .iso file, it should match this checksum. This confirms the CD image you created has not been tampered with. > 2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can > I check this. > Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can > handler about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB > or not ? FreeBSD supports lots of flavors of RAID. The x86 code has limited support for PAE (greater than 4GB of physical RAM) but a fair number of drivers are not safe to use in that mode. If you plan on using more than 4GB of RAM in a box, go with a 64-bit platform like AMD64, or maybe SPARC or PPC. I'm not sure what you mean by "clustering" since people seem to use that to describe a lot of things. > Have any reference information's source the explain the purpose > and how to handle of its. Hmm: "parse error". > If I would like to order "SD 5.4 and Handbook, 3rd Edition, > Users Guide Bundle" from FreeBSD-Mall and ship to Thailand. > 1. How much ship-cost to delivery this media ? > 2. How long for delivery ? > 3. And Could you give me for discount ? Ask FreeBSD-Mall directly. They aren't the same as the people on this list, nor are they the same thing as the FreeBSD project itself. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 19:46:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84FC16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:46:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (dev.eagle.ca [209.167.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A38643D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:46:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 58258 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Jun 2005 19:46:50 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamscan: 0.73. spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(209.167.16.15):. Processed in 1.42247 secs); 22 Jun 2005 19:46:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fuze) (209.167.16.15) by dev.eagle.ca with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 19:46:48 -0000 From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "'Ted Mittelstaedt'" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:48:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 thread-index: AcV2OBajU3NkcrR0Q4SXGQ8cGCFLBABKyVCw In-Reply-To: X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <111946960867558252@pearl.ibctech.ca> Message-Id: <20050622194651.2A38643D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:46:53 -0000 > > Fafa, I've seen these kinds of efforts before and they are > all generally doomed to failure. > > You see, the problem is that FreeBSD is not a general > computer operating system product. It is a very specific > product in fact. > > Now, the USES that FreeBSD can be put to are VERY general. > BUT, do NOT make the mistake of confusing the fact that just > because FreeBSD can be put to general use, that somehow it is > a general product. It is not. > > FreeBSD is targeted at 2 main groups of people: > > 1) Very knowledgeable people who are using it for personal, > or in-house corporate projects. > > 2) Very knowledgeable people who are using it to construct > turnkey systems for customers who couldn't care less what is > under the hood. > > By contrast, Windows and Linux are in fact, general computer > operating system products. They are targeted at groups #1 > and #2, but they are also targeted at group #3 which are: > > 3) People who barely know how to push a button who have a > problem they need to fix with a computer operating system, > and they really don't care if they understand how the fix > works as long as it works. > > > This gives rise to a rather serious Catch-22 with FreeBSD: > > You need to really understand intimately how FreeBSD works > and how computer software that runs on it works in order to > get it to work well enough for you to learn intimately how it works. > > Windows and Linux solved this Catch-22 by dumbing-down the > interface to their operating systems. Thus, an ignoramus can > get up and running with both of these systems, and that > person can remain fat, dumb, and happy, completely ignorant > of what he is doing, and those systems will still work enough > to get the job done. It may be a half-assed fix, but it is > better than nothing. > > FreeBSD by contrast, long ago decided not to do this. For > starters, if you dumbed-down the FreeBSD interface, then to > most people FreeBSD wouldn't be any different than Linux or > Windows, so why mess with it? But, most importantly, a > dumbed-down interface gets in the way of a knowledgeable > person, and over time becomes a tremendous liability. > > With FreeBSD, the only way that a newbie can break the > Catch-22 is old-fashioned mental elbow grease. In short, by > learning a bit at a time, expanding on that, and repeating > the process. It is a long slow way to get to know anything, > but once you get there, you really do know everything in > intimate detail. > > This isn't a popular thing to tell newbies. Just going through this list as I do every few days and came across this thread. I just want to say thank you Ted, your comments made for a very decent, informative and realistic read ;) Steve > > Ted > > >Thanks. > > > >-- > > > >Fafa Hafiz Krantz > > Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > > Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf > > > > > > > >-- > >___________________________________________________________ > >Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > >http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 19:54:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD9316A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:54:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5650043D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:54:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89255123938; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:53:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id F196E12B0FD; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:53:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18857-04; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107C112B02A; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B9C1AA.9090100@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:53:14 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Casey Scott References: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <20050622165027.GB49171@dan.emsphone.com> <29955.199.181.134.212.1119460796.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <42B9AA56.7010907@cs.tu-berlin.de> <16618.199.181.134.212.1119464924.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <16618.199.181.134.212.1119464924.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:54:48 -0000 Casey Scott wrote: > Thanks. Good idea. How about this, its a little easier. > > #find ./ -name 'pkg-plist*' | xargs grep 'bin/convert' Yes, it is easier if you do this only once. I do it several times and I want to benefit from a previous search. What is faster: to find more than 10.000 pkg-plist files in more than 40.000 directories or to read a single file that provides same information? ;-) Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:02:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B692816A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:02:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (dev.eagle.ca [209.167.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DA443D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:02:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 59212 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Jun 2005 20:02:35 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamscan: 0.73. spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(209.167.16.15):. Processed in 1.418483 secs); 22 Jun 2005 20:02:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fuze) (209.167.16.15) by dev.eagle.ca with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 20:02:33 -0000 From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "'Vulpes Velox'" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:04:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 thread-index: AcV3SofT4T9D5heMR+yCJwJ3jmBbpgAGVpKg In-Reply-To: <20050622115154.25e1ffbe@vixen42.local.lan> X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <111947055467559206@pearl.ibctech.ca> Message-Id: <20050622200236.F1DA443D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:02:37 -0000 > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:36:48 +0800 > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > > > Ignorant useless users should be supported by commercial > ventures, > > > not community ones. They will just drag the community down with > > > their weight if they don't help out. > > > > > This would be the real tough one. > > > > There should also be a way to write some kind of descripton for the > > people between. > > > > > I found the handbook to be useful in this area. > > > > Yes, if you understand it. It is written be serious IT > professionals > > for serious IT professionals. Even a serious none IT > professional has > > problems understanding it. > > > > Our problem is that we all do not know the people who would > speak the > > language none IT professionals understand. > > > > The original writer sounds like being skilled enough to > have serious > > try on this one if he gets the information he needs for this. > > I also had too read up on various unix tutorials as well. I would personally assume that anyone who has ventured seriously into FreeBSD (I started with Linux for a week, then jumped right into FBSD and now run an entire ISP with it) has had their head into several books. My opinion is that most who run FBSD, run it because they like it, enjoy it and completely appreciate it's features, rock-solid reliability, and excellent documentation (IMHO) and help networks. Most who use it to this extent have no problem reading the books, as others have said because they want/need to learn whats under the hood. There have been times where I have been in a jam, and didn't RTFM before making a post, but on the other hand, there have been times where I have helped someone out on FBSD areas I had to research on my own time just so I could familiarize myself with it to help them. It's my belief that you must be serious to get a FBSD box running at full tilt, tuned right out, but you need not be an expert to get one up and running. There's no way I would use a butter knife to cut down a tree (use Windows for infrastructure), nor would I use a chainsaw to cut the butter (use a full scale FBSD server to browse the web). It's all in what you want and/or need. The docs are there. As it was pointed out, you need not be a developer, but this is meant to be a serious OS for serious people. If one wants to learn the ways of FreeBSD, in reality, the handbook, google and the lists are your friends. Most everyone I know who uses FBSD document their learning and experiences, and post it on websites for everyone to learn from (including myself). Sometimes it is clear cut and dry, and other times (especially with new, unprecedented procedures), you must piece-meal different peoples experiences into your own. My .02 Steve > > I feel the handbook could be made clearer in some areas, but > I believe it is good in general. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:10:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E5116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC7543D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9DC123938; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:08:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AAE12B0FD; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19294-06; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:08:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C699A12B02A; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:08:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B9C548.4030204@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:08:40 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Trigg References: <12654.199.181.134.212.1119458656.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <20050622165027.GB49171@dan.emsphone.com> <29955.199.181.134.212.1119460796.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> <42B9AA56.7010907@cs.tu-berlin.de> <15260.128.221.197.136.1119466158.squirrel@mail.scadian.net> In-Reply-To: <15260.128.221.197.136.1119466158.squirrel@mail.scadian.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_info question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:10:15 -0000 Jim Trigg wrote: > On Wed, June 22, 2005 2:13 pm, Björn König said: > >>Thus I can search a file with >> >> cat /path/to/somewhere | xargs grep 'pattern' > > You can avoid wasting a process by using the following instead: > > xargs grep 'pattern' < /path/to/somewhere Thanks. Where is my UUOC award? ;-) Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:22:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCE016A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:22:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay17-f19.bay17.hotmail.com [64.4.43.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A911B43D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:22:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:22:48 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 61.90.63.56 by by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:22:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [61.90.63.56] X-Originating-Email: [th_nuttapon@hotmail.com] X-Sender: th_nuttapon@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <6F73A662-977C-4EBC-B5D4-B696FA9BF8C1@mac.com> From: "Nuttapon Tharachaikul" To: cswiger@mac.com Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:22:48 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 20:22:48.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[284546A0:01C57768] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:22:48 -0000 To Charles Swiger , I'm apologize that may be occure many mails delivery to you, since my outlook may have problem. Please advise me , I would like to know that : Does BSD5.4 support "High Availability Clustering" same like RedHatAS3.0 ? In term of the capability to handle share disk-storage to support redundancy of fail over single point of failure, that if one server fail then another one can be promote to handle application service by share disk-storage in a middle. Best Regards, Nuttapon T. >From: Charles Swiger >To: Nuttapon Tharachaikul >CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: Need your advise. >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:40:30 -0400 > >On Jun 22, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote: >> 1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly. >> But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for >>what ? >> - CHECKSUM.MD5 > >If you run md5 (called "md5sum" sometimes) on the .iso file, it should >match this checksum. This confirms the CD image you created has not been >tampered with. > >> 2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I >>check this. >> Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can >>handler about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB or not >>? > >FreeBSD supports lots of flavors of RAID. The x86 code has limited >support for PAE (greater than 4GB of physical RAM) but a fair number of >drivers are not safe to use in that mode. If you plan on using more than >4GB of RAM in a box, go with a 64-bit platform like AMD64, or maybe SPARC >or PPC. > >I'm not sure what you mean by "clustering" since people seem to use that >to describe a lot of things. > >> Have any reference information's source the explain the purpose and >>how to handle of its. > >Hmm: "parse error". > >> If I would like to order "SD 5.4 and Handbook, 3rd Edition, Users >>Guide Bundle" from FreeBSD-Mall and ship to Thailand. >> 1. How much ship-cost to delivery this media ? >> 2. How long for delivery ? >> 3. And Could you give me for discount ? > >Ask FreeBSD-Mall directly. They aren't the same as the people on this >list, nor are they the same thing as the FreeBSD project itself. > >-- >-Chuck > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:29:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28F516A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:29:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (dev.eagle.ca [209.167.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48F543D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:29:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 61256 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Jun 2005 20:29:57 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamscan: 0.73. spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(209.167.16.15):. Processed in 1.434272 secs); 22 Jun 2005 20:29:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fuze) (209.167.16.15) by dev.eagle.ca with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 20:29:55 -0000 From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "'Lei Sun'" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:31:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 thread-index: AcV3VkbhMsdFp2UuSXi0TVMwkeq3yQAD1uvQ In-Reply-To: X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <111947219567561250@pearl.ibctech.ca> Message-Id: <20050622202957.D48F543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:29:59 -0000 > After all, someone is trying to do something good for > freebsd, by making freebsd known by more and more people. It's not worth getting the word out if those new people who are hearing about it just rant and bitch that the documentation is 'no good', when something doesn't work the first time they try it. > Most people are lazy, we tend to prefer immediate results > rather than a long term process and commitment. I think this > is understandable. I agree, and it falls perfectly well in with my comment above. > Of course, there will be a lot of newbies coming, some of > them will stay and some of them will find it too difficult, > and leave. That's the way it is. ...and most likely because they are the type who don't want to learn 'how' it works, they just want it to work. Bill Gates knows this, and counts on it. Linux is trying to make itself more 'user friendly' to compete with Microsoft. I hope FreeBSD never tries to make itself 'simpler' to operate to gain market share. Myself, I find it easy to operate, moreover, I can type faster than I can move the mouse and point/click, so being able to do something in Windows or Linux rather than at the command line is only in the eye of the beholder. (Note that I use XP as my workstation, but I usually have 10 or 12 SSH sessions open ;) > Same goes with linux. If it just sounds powerful, and hard > for people to get their hands dirty by just setting one up > and see what it looks like and maybe how it works, then linux > wouldn't be this popular now. Linux has come a long way from 10 years ago. It's just as easy, if not in some cases easier than Windows to set up. However, with sysinstall, I can get a FBSD system up in less than 8 minutes, with custom FW ruleset, online, updating with cvsup and preparing to install a custom kernel. No gooey crap to waste resources, nothing extra I don't want, just straight up what I want. Sure the first couple installs may take some time to read and find out about, but I much rather spending <20 average per box with FreeBSD than the hour and a half to get a Window server up and installed for Internet use for a client. > You would hear that "Someone has burned a linux CD and just > don't have time to install it, but linux is easy and sounds > really cool and makes people curious", and you wouldn't hear > the same thing about freebsd. > Most of the none unix IT friends I have all had a "EXTREMELY HARD" > impression on Freebsd, and they found linux extremely easy. Sure. FreeBSD I don't think is meant to be cool and appeal to the UNIX IT personnel. It's designed to work, and work hard. Those who spend their work hours maintaining a large core infrastructure aren't interested in cool. Business managers and clients are interested in 'make it work, make it work reliably without downtime'. Words like 'cool' generally don't impress them, and 'cool' generally means that I have to respond to frequent problems, errors, crashes. My cool is less work, less time spent so I can do more important things :) > That's indeed not true. It really only takes a normal person > several hours to flip through the HANDBOOK to at least know > his/her way around, and this is really as "easy" as linux. Agreed. I even read the FM's for new devices/purchases I make. I want to ensure I get full value out of things that I use/buy/aquire. It's those who buy a new camera, throw the manual out with the box as soon as it's opened, and get angry because x feature won't work, or they can't figure out how to do something so they bitch about it. IMHO, the handbook will get a box set up even for a reasonable newbie. > But, it make sence, that people would like to see the > product, before using it or even know more about it. Much > like a person would prefer trying out a service for free > before he/she decides to invest more money and time into it. That's what the docs, lists and other professionals that use FBSD are for. Myself, I'll answer any question about FBSD that I can, because so much info was so freely given to me. They didn't build Rome in a day, nor can you expect to get a full picture of the usefulness of FBSD in a day either. > Also, one must first be a newbie in something, then become > more and more professional while he/she is learning. Of course. Many of my clients call themselves stupid for making a mistake. I disagree with them. Although there are many, many incoherent users I feel like choking sometimes, I generally tell them no one knows everything. If one wants to learn they must educate themselves...this goes for everything. > A lot of you might be good at Freebsd, but very new to something else. > Would you prefer to hear someone telling you, "Hey! This is > only for Professional! There is not even a newbie version for > you! So don't slow us down by getting out of our way!" That's > not friendly at all, right? It's not friendly, but no one has said that. Most will say to a newbie that it takes time, patience and RTFM'ing. It's the people who START YELLING AT YOU when they can't do something in 2 seconds before they even have given even a half-assed try at it. > I perfectly agree that Freebsd is a serious OS from serious > people, that's why I choose freebsd :) and I would rather see > freebsd be more and more popular than linux!!! Truely!!! It > is indeed a very good OS. More popular...sure. So long as it's integrity is not compromised to make it 'easier' for people to use. Keep it stable. Keep it reliable. Keep building FBSD for FBSD, not for the user. > So let's be nice, and find ways help the new comers without > disturbing the ones, who are not interested in the easy > questions, instead of turning them away. We all have heard 'go RTFM' in our days. Newbies need to learn that valuable, valuable lesson as well. If they take it the wrong way, then perhaps they don't belong here anyway. Many people on many of the lists I'm on are not intending to be rude or ignorant, they just see the same questions over and over where even a half-baked search would of kept the archives cleaner, and put use to them. > We all love FreeBSD, don't we? With all our hearts :) Hope I haven't taken anything you said out of context, but I really wanted to vent. This has been a very good thread! Steve > > Lei > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:39:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647D616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:39:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F35E43D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:39:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j5MKda6x028438; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.153] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j5MKdUMY016455; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:39:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:39:42 -0400 To: Nuttapon Tharachaikul X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:39:37 -0000 On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote: > Please advise me , I would like to know that : Does BSD5.4 > support "High Availability Clustering" same like RedHatAS3.0 ? In > term of the capability to handle share disk-storage to support > redundancy of fail over single point of failure, that if one server > fail then another one can be promote to handle application service > by share disk-storage in a middle. Hmm. The answer is probably no, FreeBSD doesn't have anything which handles NFS or Samba failover transparently. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:40:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADF916A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:40:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (dev.eagle.ca [209.167.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A92543D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:40:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 62199 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Jun 2005 20:40:52 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamscan: 0.73. spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(209.167.16.15):. Processed in 2.613702 secs); 22 Jun 2005 20:40:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fuze) (209.167.16.15) by dev.eagle.ca with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 20:40:48 -0000 From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "'Jim Mozley'" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:42:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 thread-index: AcV3RUTCe9OoYyXQRB6d5qeslz8Q0AAJV7IA In-Reply-To: <42B98DFD.3050400@exponential-e.net> X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <111947284967562187@pearl.ibctech.ca> Message-Id: <20050622204053.0A92543D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: support for ICH6R controller and Broadcom ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:40:55 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jim Mozley > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:13 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: support for ICH6R controller and Broadcom ethernet > > scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > > I think it's not a answer to you but here is my recent > experience. > > I've installed FBSD 5.4 in a box with Intel ICH5R chipset. > > It's working, no hangs, no panics, but the disk > performance on the > > second IDE disk (I'm not using RAID, just simple > master/slave setup), > > is terrible. > > It's like the DMA was not correctly set on the second disk. > > I read somewhere, that FreeBSD has full support to ICH5 > chipset but > > NOT for ICH5"R". > > Even when running in "compatibility mode" set on BIOS, the > > performance is the same. > > > > Someone told me the follwing on the performance list: > > > > "I remember a commit to the ata driver to fix > misprogramming of DMA > > timing on an Intel chipset for devices and/or channels > other than the > > first. I'm not sure if 5.4 has the bug or the fix." > > > > To me it still has the bug. > > OK thanks for that help. > > If anyone knows anything more definitive I'd be grateful (no > criticism of the helpful reply intended). I have a box with the same chipset. I have 2 160GB SATA drives in a RAID1 config, which FBSD 5.4 sees 2 disks, as opposed to the single RAID subsystem. I install on one of the disks. However, when I reboot the box, I get a flashing cursor in the top left corner of the screen as if it's going to boot, but it stays there. No errors nothing. I'll be trying this out again tomorrow, so I'll let you know if I find anything. Steve > > Thanks, > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:51:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3786A16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (dev.eagle.ca [209.167.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C171743D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:51:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 62931 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Jun 2005 20:51:03 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamscan: 0.73. spamassassin: 2.64. 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Processed in 2.78586 secs); 22 Jun 2005 20:51:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fuze) (209.167.16.15) by dev.eagle.ca with SMTP; 22 Jun 2005 20:51:00 -0000 From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "'P.U.Kruppa'" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:53:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 thread-index: AcV1m2G7h49cungpRtuf/5nyQh7CmwB0LqEw In-Reply-To: <20050620151328.M11229@www.pukruppa.net> X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <111947346167562917@pearl.ibctech.ca> Message-Id: <20050622205104.C171743D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:51:05 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of P.U.Kruppa > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:28 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: P.U.Kruppa; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> What model of Proliant? > >> ML 350 G4 > >> > > > > Oh good, we have a customer that has been looking at one of > these for > > FreeBSD and I'm glad to hear that you didn't have problems with it. > Absolutely smooth - and I am really no kind of computer expert. > > > With these all you get is hot-swap support although you > might have to > > do a camcontrol rescan after swapping the disk. > Yes, I have read that in some recent thread. > > > Actually, the Windows management tools for this raid > controller on a > > server are observational as well. There is no rebuild tool or > > anything like that. > > When we set these systems up > > for customers (All the recent Proliants use the same RAID > controller) > > we usually configure them RAID-5 with 4 physical disks, the > setup will > > set 3 of the disks in the array, and one a hot-spare. And in the > > event of a disk failure, which you can tell by looking at the disk > > drive lights, or going into the management interface, you > simply pull > > out the bad disk and put in the replacement and the RAID card takes > > care of the rest of it. > The City of Wuppertal couldn't buy me a third disc, because > that would have superceded the limit of 2.5 kEURO, which > would have required some special administrative act ... :-) . > > > As for knowing if a disk has failed, > > I think the only way to know is to watch the little lights > on the disk > > front. > After reading Alex' story about running a RAID 1 with a > defect disc for three years, I believe it will suffice, when > I check things with every system upgrade. I know this technique isn't feasable in all situations, but I try to have duplicate hardware. Especially with my IDE RAID1 servers, I'll from time to time during a maintenance window pop one of the RAID disks out, throw it in another box and ensure BOTH machines boot up with individual disks. This is a sure test to ensure RAID is working. Mind you, I also back up using rsync for critical stuff to another box, and to tape as well. Steve > > Uli. > > > ********************************************* > * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * > ********************************************* > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:57:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE5E16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:57:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rickjpreston@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4365B43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:57:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rickjpreston@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so184992rna for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:57:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M4CN+8y7TifN/KxukraMaozxb1mGag5Z6nfFL9CGnenCZLYiHG3JP4TIx8QGck1Jm+OO4Tfq8+8Cx74LjmrOdzcwEXbr7dAJjN+pEnEJrl17VCGU+eXWFgpvVuCQouMCA0xbSzLaSOeIABGN2YOnZ5qhSH5CQ+uLx5FNOOoBHaI= Received: by 10.38.73.41 with SMTP id v41mr520695rna; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.151.32 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:57:27 -0400 From: Rick Preston To: Stephan Weaver In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Share Printers, Printing Long. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rick Preston List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:57:28 -0000 On 6/22/05, Stephan Weaver wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have suscessfully installed my DSL MODEM Behind my FREEBSD Firewall. > Ever Since i have done this, i noticed that my windows users, when trying= to > print to shared printers, it takes very long for them to access the > printers. > I have an empty ipf.rules > and my ip nat rules looks like > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 >=20 >=20 > my dhcp.conf looks like > >cat /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf > option domain-name "pizzaboys.org"; > option domain-name-servers 192.3.132.1, 196.3.132.4; >=20 > default-lease-time 86400; > max-lease-time 86400; >=20 > authoritative; >=20 > ddns-update-style none; >=20 > log-facility local1; >=20 > subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.200; > option routers 192.168.0.2; > } >=20 >=20 > Any Assistance Please Are the shared printers in the 192.168.0/24 subnet? Are they connected to workstation that get their IP through DHCP? What are you using for workstation name resolution? What are you using for a port type on the windows machines, \\workstation\printer? is it DSL<-->firewall<--> workstations&printers? Looks to me like it is a name resolution thing. Your DNS servers are outside your subnet and probably doesn't know what is in your network. Answer these questions and I can probably give you some ideas. Cheers, Rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 20:59:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2B816A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xordos@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA02A43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:59:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xordos@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so167176wra for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:59:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Xh1JjKukNjvLJjIRaCwHW/2lbPWBP1O1ohwX64Y4frlClmr3s50YKMl12ZDZfbAtvlNTaQZFaXse/2zKM2uQBDYLGFCcsJiK61+L/X+O6LeWGagpk/H5vPgsh5P0+YsvCzzWg0pVRYhBBwf/DFDLKdWwtoVhnSQ2iMHMZeMG+Vk= Received: by 10.54.80.16 with SMTP id d16mr702989wrb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.61.19 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <646f14be050622135974f5aa28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:59:17 -0400 From: xordos dos To: Gerard Seibert In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Configuring Apache with DynDNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: xordos dos List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:59:19 -0000 On 6/19/05, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I am attempting to get Apache to work on my computer. My ISM only supplie= s > me with a dynamic IP as well as blocking of port 80. I am using DynDNS to > try and circumvent that situation. Basically, DynDNS only give you a free internat hostname, nothing more. So it won't help you resolve the 80 blocking issue. Though I think it is rare an ISP will blocking 80 port, but if this is the case, you can modify apache configuration file to use different port number. In httpd.conf file, find the line "Listen 80" and replace 80 to another number.(ex 81) then in your browser, http://blahblah.dyndns.org:81/ Regards, Xordos. >=20 > My knowledge of how to accomplish this quite frankly stinks. Even using a > copy of O'Reilly's Apache has not helped me much. >=20 > If anyone has a similar type of setup, I would appreciate them contacting > me directly. I can supply all of my configuration files for them to look > at. I am probably just doing something really stupid but I lack the > knowledge to figure it out on my own. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 21:28:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2052516A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:28:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay17-f35.bay17.hotmail.com [64.4.43.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDA143D1D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:28:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:28:32 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 61.90.63.56 by by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:28:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [61.90.63.56] X-Originating-Email: [th_nuttapon@hotmail.com] X-Sender: th_nuttapon@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "Nuttapon Tharachaikul" To: cswiger@mac.com Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:28:32 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 21:28:32.0728 (UTC) FILETIME=[57299580:01C57771] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:28:33 -0000 To Charles Swiger, Thanksyou very much, for give me a clerity. Without this feature,BSD still beautiful. BestRegards, Nuttapon T. >From: Charles Swiger >To: Nuttapon Tharachaikul >CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: Need your advise. >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:39:42 -0400 > >On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote: >> Please advise me , I would like to know that : Does BSD5.4 >>support "High Availability Clustering" same like RedHatAS3.0 ? In term >>of the capability to handle share disk-storage to support redundancy of >>fail over single point of failure, that if one server fail then another >>one can be promote to handle application service by share disk-storage in >>a middle. > >Hmm. The answer is probably no, FreeBSD doesn't have anything which >handles NFS or Samba failover transparently. > >-- >-Chuck > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 21:43:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8635616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C24C43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so100820wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=RvR1JY2Y+WIWTTHjxyJ3UojQTL58+lM+ahkAzxEJTvmqNefMYj9EYJLVlWnNrFLNvGQUSNadRkigGcibPF51WIY2HBRvIyoPwHteZfCYlnMGAAjXymKGjwyRwCkJB3AfpnnzjQcNjkgcRplf8bW+nom17fQsXxPltoVTtFLGTT8= Received: by 10.54.67.3 with SMTP id p3mr728233wra; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.72.19 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 From: Benjamin Keating To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Keating List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:39 -0000 I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? Thanks! - bpk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 21:50:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6625616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:50:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEF343D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:50:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DlD6p-0008JB-Pe; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:50:11 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gerard Seibert Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:51:04 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506221651.04109.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc69a109bca27a9908e7c040ecaf0ed134350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: Subject: Re: Configuring Apache with DynDNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:50:13 -0000 On Sunday 19 June 2005 09:07 am, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I am attempting to get Apache to work on my computer. My ISM only > supplies me with a dynamic IP as well as blocking of port 80. I am > using DynDNS to try and circumvent that situation. > > My knowledge of how to accomplish this quite frankly stinks. Even > using a copy of O'Reilly's Apache has not helped me much. > > If anyone has a similar type of setup, I would appreciate them > contacting me directly. I can supply all of my configuration files > for them to look at. I am probably just doing something really stupid > but I lack the knowledge to figure it out on my own. > > Thanks! 1. Is your server updating DynDNS with your new IP address successfully? 2. Take a look at DynDNS's MyWebHop service. This service forwards port 80 to whatever port you choose. That way, the redirection is transparent to people accessing your site. 3. The only change in Apache configuration needed (relating to the port blocking issue) is to change the port the Apache listens on. This is done in the httpd.conf file. If you're not familiar with this file, you can get lots of good information at: http://httpd.apache.org/ Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 22:07:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2C616A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:07:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C300A43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:07:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:07:48 +0100 Message-ID: <42B9E10A.7090800@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:07:06 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <20050622205104.C171743D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050622205104.C171743D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 22:07:48.0357 (UTC) FILETIME=[D33A0B50:01C57776] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:07:09 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > >I know this technique isn't feasable in all situations, but I try to >have duplicate hardware. Especially with my IDE RAID1 servers, I'll from >time to time during a maintenance window pop one of the RAID disks out, >throw it in another box and ensure BOTH machines boot up with individual >disks. > >This is a sure test to ensure RAID is working. Mind you, I also back up >using rsync for critical stuff to another box, and to tape as well. > > Luckily we did the rsync and tape stuff (though it hasn't been needed yet). I guess you need not just the spare hardware (which is possible if you have more than one server to start with and two can come out at the same time) but the maintenance window to a) pop the disk and then b) rebuild the RAID afterwards. At least, I'm assuming that the RAID-1 is just going to treat the disk you pop back in as of unknown status and re-mirror it. Good thoughts, thanks, --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 22:08:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06B316A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:08:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA98743D5D for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:08:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout13/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j5MM8Ueu019754; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.153] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j5MM8Pan022682; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:08:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> References: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <942A6D6A-2A41-400B-AA8E-EFF6B99DB102@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:08:37 -0400 To: Benjamin Keating X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:08:31 -0000 On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Benjamin Keating wrote: > I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite > little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what > model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go > for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and > pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I've got a VIA EPIA-M1000, a 1GHz VIA "CentaurHauls" C3 and 512MB of RAM. It mostly worked out-of-the-box (in textmode only, I haven't really tried getting X11 to work with the integrated video). Firewire and USB ports worked well, the vr0 (VIA Rhine II?) NIC worked OK but seemed to get a little flakey under high load and would drop traffic. I'm not unhappy with the hardware, but it's reliability under load is questionable compared to a Soekris 4511 or a generic Dell/Compaq/HP/ whatever box. I'd probably get a Mac Mini instead if I had to redo the choice today. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 22:16:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73E216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:16:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brently1@bjwcs.com) Received: from bjwcs.com (iad-wws-002.bjwcs.com [208.185.25.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C14043D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:16:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brently1@bjwcs.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] [66.252.69.26] by bjwcs.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A34654C0090; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:16:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42B9E338.1070307@bjwcs.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:16:24 -0700 From: Brent Wiese User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Keating References: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:16:26 -0000 Benjamin Keating wrote: >I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite >little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what >model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go >for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and >pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? > > I've tried several of the VIA mini-itx boards (not with FreeBSD tho). Not bad. But: 1: cases aren't super plentiful and the nice ones aren't cheap 2: for a file server, I want gig-E, something not built on to the VIA boards, at least not since I've last checked (could be available now) 3: I think it actually ends up being cheaper to buy a little cube system w/ a standard AMD/Intel chip 4: Many of the cases for the via boards don't have multiple drive bays... since you mention file server, I assume you'd want to at least mirror 2 drives 5: for the price, you may just want to consider buying a USB-NAS adapter (Linksys and Dlink both have them) or getting a Buffalo Terrastation (or similar) and save yourself a lot of work assembling, etc. Of course, this assumes you only want to use the box as a fileserver. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 22:28:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189CD16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:28:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aanton@spintech.ro) Received: from smtpx.spintech.ro (smtpx.spintech.ro [81.180.92.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D0543D48 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aanton@spintech.ro) Received: from smtpx.spintech.ro (antivirus [15.0.0.1]) by smtpx.spintech.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD18E3A4A6 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (beastie [10.0.0.2]) by smtpx.spintech.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BA43A493 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <42B9E62C.7000204@spintech.ro> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:29:00 +0300 From: Alin-Adrian Anton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041229) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Open-Source: www.opensource.org Subject: ipfw2 filtering on bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:28:52 -0000 Hi there, I've been running into some problems with what is supposed to be a filtering bridge with IPFW, on FreeBSD 5.4-REL0. IPFW has been compiled into kernel: options BRIDGE options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT along with the bridging capability. No other firewalling mechanisms are enabled. The bridge is configured and working: net.link.ether.bridge.enable=1 net.link.ether.bridge.config=fxp0,vr0 net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 fxp0 is Internet vr0 is a server with an external IP, called EXT_IP I tried blocking with trivial ruleset: 00100 0 0 deny icmp from any to any 65535 8518 584248 allow ip from any to any However, pinging through the bridge, from the Internet, works without fear: 64 bytes from EXT_IP: icmp_seq=0 ttl=233 time=85.994 ms 64 bytes from EXT_IP: icmp_seq=1 ttl=233 time=96.220 ms If anyone could help me a bit, I'd be really thankfull. Thanks for the time. Yours Sincerely, -- Alin-Adrian Anton GPG keyID 0x183087BA (B129 E8F4 7B34 15A9 0785 2F7C 5823 ABA0 1830 87BA) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0x183087BA "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." - Voltaire From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 23:12:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE69216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:12:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C97F43D58 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:12:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2005 23:12:14 -0000 Received: from pD952C365.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.195.101] by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 01:12:14 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Benjamin Keating In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> References: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-KtjlvGd0qwEieoM09ShV" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:12:13 +0200 Message-Id: <1119481933.526.20.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:12:17 -0000 --=-KtjlvGd0qwEieoM09ShV Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:43 -0700, Benjamin Keating wrote: > I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite > little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what > model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go > for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and > pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? >=20 > Thanks! > - bpk I have tested a Via EPIA M10000 a while ago. X installed and worked fine, but the internal graphic was to slow to playback xvid-movies with mplayer, an external pci-graphic card should solve this. The soundchip was supported out of the box too. Right now I have a Via EPIA PD10000 (with two 10/100MBit LAN adapters onboard) with 512MB RAM running as a home dsl router / gateway / print-/fileserver but only for a small amount of not important data with one harddisk drive. I am quite happy with it, since it get its job done and does not use much electricity.=20 To give you an idea of its speed: a 'make buildworld' of FreeBSD 5.4 is done in about 2 hours.=20 Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-KtjlvGd0qwEieoM09ShV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCufBNaRsDctJfzIERAoANAJ9inTcrKY9Rp8A4wtu1+dLy7yug7gCcDxF0 6nMQw4kLy7tio3BQQTL12hg= =YtkF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-KtjlvGd0qwEieoM09ShV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 23:12:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3890216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:12:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5F943D4C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:12:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so46352rns for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TPuRQebFlMDo6cshOEtpHmni23OaLGAn4jRMAbCeb9gyK7sTER7xql3E1Ehi1Ji0EH6LPpNEVNPuanISEY1YLOB4z9T6JRbbObLr/A+ZtErRr9vWaGoqfvBLWtWEPg6GLfXGNQmygh6vztPzIPC9WKhtfjzHv/yoR484bBDAzdY= Received: by 10.38.95.10 with SMTP id s10mr57326rnb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:12:36 -0400 From: Hornet To: Rick Preston In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: Stephan Weaver , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Share Printers, Printing Long. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:12:37 -0000 On 6/22/05, Rick Preston wrote: > On 6/22/05, Stephan Weaver wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have suscessfully installed my DSL MODEM Behind my FREEBSD Firewall. > > Ever Since i have done this, i noticed that my windows users, when tryi= ng to > > print to shared printers, it takes very long for them to access the > > printers. > > I have an empty ipf.rules > > and my ip nat rules looks like > > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 > > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > > > > > > my dhcp.conf looks like > > >cat /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf > > option domain-name "pizzaboys.org"; > > option domain-name-servers 192.3.132.1, 196.3.132.4; > > > > default-lease-time 86400; > > max-lease-time 86400; > > > > authoritative; > > > > ddns-update-style none; > > > > log-facility local1; > > > > subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > > range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.200; > > option routers 192.168.0.2; > > } > > > > > > Any Assistance Please >=20 > Are the shared printers in the 192.168.0/24 subnet? Are they > connected to workstation that get their IP through DHCP? What are you > using for workstation name resolution? What are you using for a port > type on the windows machines, \\workstation\printer? > is it DSL<-->firewall<--> workstations&printers? >=20 > Looks to me like it is a name resolution thing. Your DNS servers are > outside your subnet and probably doesn't know what is in your network. Yes, I would agree, if you are printing to shares, \\workstation\printer.= =20 You may need to run a WINS server. or create an lmhosts file on each box. >=20 > Answer these questions and I can probably give you some ideas. >=20 > Cheers, > Rick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 23:35:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1328116A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:35:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0A643D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:35:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5MNZl9k025791; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:35:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j5MNZl4V025788; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:35:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:35:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Louis LeBlanc In-Reply-To: <20050622154637.GE67917@keyslapper.net> Message-ID: <20050622173308.M25752@wonkity.com> References: <20050622154637.GE67917@keyslapper.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:35:47 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: clamav build link error (reference to gethostbyname_r) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:35:52 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > I just updated my ports and found that clamav was due for upgrade. > Problem is it won't build because of a gethostbyname_r reference. > > During the configuration stage, it seems to find a gethostbyname_r: > checking for gethostbyname_r... yes, and it takes 5 arguments > > I can't find any reference to gethostbyname_r in the manpages, except > for the LWRES_GETHOSTENT(3) manpage. I don't think this is what it > refers to, since lwres_gethostbyname_r() takes 4 arguments, not 5. > > Regardless, the build fails here: > cc -O -pipe -pthread -o .libs/clamav-milter cfgparser.o getopt.o memory.o misc.o clamav-milter.o -pthread -L/usr/local/lib ../libclamav/.libs/libclamav.so -lldap -lbz2 -lgmp -lcurl -lidn -lssl -lcrypto -lz -lmilter -pthread -lwrap -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > clamav-milter.o(.text+0x5708): In function `clamfi_gethostbyname': > : undefined reference to `gethostbyname_r' > *** Error code 1 > > Anyone have any idea why the configuration is finding gethostbyname_r() > when it's not there? > > BTW, I'm running on 5.4 RELEASE-p1 Interesting. The same thing happens on 4-STABLE as of May 8, but it works fine on 5-STABLE as of June 13. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 23:53:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD4B16A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:53:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobias.fendin@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2334543D55 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobias.fendin@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81.229.46.22) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) (authenticated as u18317830) id 42B813B00006D653 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:53:39 +0200 Message-ID: <42B9F9FE.5080205@telia.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:53:34 +0200 From: Tobias Fendin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050403) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dell Latitude C640, very hot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:53:41 -0000 Hi I've got a Dell Latitude C640, with FreeBSD 5.4 stable. It works well, except for this: After a cuple of hours up and running it gets really hot. My fingers almost gets burned when I touch the harddirve, memory etc! According to `sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature` the cpu-temperature is usually about 50-60 degrees C. Which I consider i normal, but is it normal for the rest of the devices to be so hot? Is there someone else who has the same problem which I do with a simular computer? -Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 00:09:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6107016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:09:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043FE43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:09:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5N0DiS9063555 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5N0Div3063554 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:13:43 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050623001343.GA63523@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: private/internal db file question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:09:27 -0000 Folks, After years or trying, I may have my private/internal DNS db files working. From a colo machine I can reach my internal servers. One small question for the DNS wizards out there:: are the last ".in-addr.arpa" lines considered good-form? Can I blow them away or uncomment them? (I am considering building an internal mailserver [yes, with Postfix--it is better than sendmail]. iF and when I unload my DNS server, be nice to know.) thanks for any insights, gary #--- $TTL 600 @ IN SOA sage.thought.org. root.sage.thought.org. ( 2005062201; Serial 10800 ; Refresh - 3 hours 3600 ; Retry - 1 hour 432000 ; Expire - 1 week 86400) ; Minimum - 1 day ; ;; real nameserver: ; IN NS sage.thought.org. ; ; Machines names ; ;name ttl class type data 1 IN PTR localhost 1 IN PTR sage 220 IN PTR ethic 247 IN PTR tao 249 IN PTR zen ; ;; below may not be necessary ; ;;;220.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ethic.thought.org. ;;;247.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR tao.thought.org. ;;;249.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR zen.thought.org. ;;;220.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ethic ;;;247.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR tao ;;;249.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR zen -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 00:21:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB90C16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D08D43D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.res.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5N0LGZ7013072; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:21:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42BA007B.9080805@polands.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:21:15 -0500 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050606) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Fendin References: <42B9F9FE.5080205@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <42B9F9FE.5080205@telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell Latitude C640, very hot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:21:21 -0000 Tobias Fendin wrote: > > I've got a Dell Latitude C640, with FreeBSD 5.4 stable. > It works well, except for this: > After a cuple of hours up and running it gets really hot. My fingers > almost gets burned when I touch the harddirve, memory etc! > According to `sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature` the > cpu-temperature is usually about 50-60 degrees C. > Which I consider i normal, but is it normal for the rest of the devices > to be so hot? > > Is there someone else who has the same problem which I do with a simular > computer? > I have a C600 that gets very hot too. On a buildworld, it get's up to 180f before fan kicks in. The bottom is too hot to touch. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 00:42:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD6E16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:42:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdunham@texas.net) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF3343D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:42:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdunham@texas.net) Received: (qmail 9994 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 00:42:17 -0000 Received: from rrcs-67-78-64-99.sw.biz.rr.com (HELO 25jdunham) (ldunham@[67.78.64.99]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jun 2005 00:42:17 -0000 From: "Jerry Dunham" Organization: M3 Design, Inc. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:42:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42B9BF18.18998.1BF9924E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <42BA007B.9080805@polands.org> References: <42B9F9FE.5080205@telia.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: Dell Latitude C640, very hot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:42:18 -0000 On 22 Jun 2005 at 19:21, Doug Poland wrote: > Tobias Fendin wrote: > > > > I've got a Dell Latitude C640, with FreeBSD 5.4 stable. > > It works well, except for this: > > After a cuple of hours up and running it gets really hot. My fingers > > almost gets burned when I touch the harddirve, memory etc! > > According to `sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature` the > > cpu-temperature is usually about 50-60 degrees C. > > Which I consider i normal, but is it normal for the rest of the devices > > to be so hot? > > > > Is there someone else who has the same problem which I do with a simular > > computer? > > > I have a C600 that gets very hot too. On a buildworld, it get's up to > 180f before fan kicks in. The bottom is too hot to touch. Yes, it's normal for these machines to get very hot to the touch. As long as the fans come on appropriately and the CPU temp stays in the normal range you should be okay (if a bit warm). We had customers complain that they'd used the machines on their knees and gotten blistered. The only answer is, "Don't do that." I know that's not very satisfactory, but it's a good machine otherwise and you just have to know its shortcomings. I understand that the newer D-series machines are better, but I'm no longer with Dell Portables Engineering and don't have access to data on them. -- Jerry Dunham M3 Design, Inc. jdunham@m3designinc.com (512) 218-8858 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 00:56:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B289916A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:56:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351E243D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:56:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b239.otenet.gr [212.205.244.247]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5N0uYGM003256; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:56:35 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5N0uSm3001738; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:56:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5N0uQtf001737; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:56:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:56:26 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20050623005626.GB1523@gothmog.gr> References: <20050623001343.GA63523@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050623001343.GA63523@thought.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: private/internal db file question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:56:38 -0000 On 2005-06-22 17:13, Gary Kline wrote: > Folks, > After years or trying, I may have my private/internal DNS db files > working. From a colo machine I can reach my internal servers. One > small question for the DNS wizards out there:: are the last > ".in-addr.arpa" lines considered good-form? Can I blow them away or > uncomment them? Strip them off. You didn't specify which zone this file was a database for, but looking at the commented lines it seems like it's the reverse resolution database for 10.0.0.0/8 (your internal network). DNS records in zone files like this one refer to addresses "relative" to the zone itself, which is probably defined as the following in your named.conf configuration file: zone "0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "master/10.0.0.rev"; }; This definition of the zone in named.conf declares that addresses of the form 10.0.0.X will be looked up as PTR records of X in the file "master/10.0.0.rev" under you named server root directory, i.e. ADDRESS DB-FILE RECORD 10.0.0.1 master/10.0.0.rev 1 10.0.0.2 master/10.0.0.rev 2 ... 10.0.0.254 master/10.0.0.rev 254 Usually, the most tricky part is grasping that "1.0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA." is what BIND looks up to find the name (or names) associated with the address 10.0.0.1 (note the reversed byte order of the address parts). > ;name ttl class type data > 1 IN PTR localhost > 1 IN PTR sage > 220 IN PTR ethic > 247 IN PTR tao > 249 IN PTR zen These look mostly ok, but you may want to fix the following: - "localhost" is usually assigned to 127.0.0.1, not 10.0.0.1 - the "IN" column is *NOT* the TTL (time to live) of a record > ; > ;; below may not be necessary > ; True; they're not. > ;;;220.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ethic.thought.org. > ;;;247.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR tao.thought.org. > ;;;249.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR zen.thought.org. > > ;;;220.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ethic > ;;;247.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR tao > ;;;249.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR zen Note that O'Reilly has an excellent book ("DNS & BIND") which you may find immensely useful in setting up practically any sort of DNS server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 01:05:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69B516A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8466843D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j5N15DG5017876 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:05:14 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cs333-60.spmodem.washington.edu [140.142.179.61]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j5N157Kb014378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:05:10 -0700 Message-ID: <42BA0AAE.2000502@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:04:46 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050319 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Custom kernel config questions for Linux user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:05:16 -0000 Hello, I was wondering if anyone could provide me an answer to the following questions. Please keep in mind that by default I learned Unix on a Linux system, so... please no flames :(. 1) Is there any sort of configuration interface (ncurses, X, etc), or am I 'stuck' with 'manually configuring' a textfile? 2) Is there a complete list of features which can be enabled for the kernel, other what was in the GENERIC configuration file? 3) What is needed for the FreeBSD kernel and what modules need to be compiled in order to use IDE CD-burning. In linux previous to kernel version 2.6.8 I know that SCSI was required, but now they are doing proper IDE emulation. Thanks, I'll most likely have more questions later. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 01:17:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4176216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:17:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F6B43D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:17:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5N1HAmc026003; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:17:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j5N1HAto026000; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:17:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:17:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <42BA0AAE.2000502@u.washington.edu> Message-ID: <20050622190904.M25941@wonkity.com> References: <42BA0AAE.2000502@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:17:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Custom kernel config questions for Linux user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:17:12 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Garrett Cooper wrote: > I was wondering if anyone could provide me an answer to the following > questions. Please keep in mind that by default I learned Unix on a Linux > system, so... please no flames :(. > 1) Is there any sort of configuration interface (ncurses, X, etc), or am I > 'stuck' with 'manually configuring' a textfile? sysinstall does some of that. Personally, I find plain text files much easier to deal with than most semi-automated helper programs. There are things like webmin in the ports collection. > 2) Is there a complete list of features which can be enabled for the > kernel, other what was in the GENERIC configuration file? See the LINT (4.x) or NOTES (5.x) files in the same directory. > 3) What is needed for the FreeBSD kernel and what modules need to be > compiled in order to use IDE CD-burning. In linux previous to kernel version > 2.6.8 I know that SCSI was required, but now they are doing proper IDE > emulation. 'man burncd' will show details about the stock IDE CD burning application. If you want to use SCSI emulation, there's the atapicam device. The man page for that shows setup. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 01:25:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8536F16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0224343D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:25:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b239.otenet.gr [212.205.244.247]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5N1PYs5025062; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:25:35 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5N1PRl3002046; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:25:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5N1PQSe002045; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:25:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:25:26 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20050623012526.GB1844@gothmog.gr> References: <42BA0AAE.2000502@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BA0AAE.2000502@u.washington.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Custom kernel config questions for Linux user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:25:38 -0000 On 2005-06-22 18:04, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Hello, > I was wondering if anyone could provide me an answer to the > following questions. Please keep in mind that by default I learned Unix > on a Linux system, so... please no flames :(. That's ok. I was also a Linux user for a long time before I switched exclusively to FreeBSD somewhere around 1999. > 1) Is there any sort of configuration interface (ncurses, X, etc), > or am I 'stuck' with 'manually configuring' a textfile? Yes. It may seem daunting or "primitive" at first, but eventually you may start enjoying the fact that you don't constantly have to fight with multilevel, deeply nested, ever changing manu hierarchies to find that particular option that you know exists somewhere, but for the life of you can't right now remember where :-) Being able to just fire up your favorite editor and search using common "search" operations for strings like "disk", or "usb" (possibly repeating the search within the rest of the file with a single keystroke), is actually very very cool, once you get the hang of it. > 2) Is there a complete list of features which can be enabled for the > kernel, other what was in the GENERIC configuration file? The GENERIC configuration file is just, well, a "generic" configuration file that is used as the kernel configuration when preparing the FreeBSD release CD-ROMs. It also serves as a common reference point for troubleshooting, which is a lot easier when there is a single "reference config" instead of a billion, custom, personalized configuration sets. Note that I'm not arguing that Linux *does*, in fact, use ``a billion, custom, personalized configuration sets''. Just that this is one of the roles GENERIC fulfills. In general, modern versions of FreeBSD include at least the following too: /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES /usr/src/sys//conf/NOTES The first is the complete set of machine & architecture-independent options that the kernel supports. The files described by the second set are currently: % # ls -l /usr/src/sys/*/conf/NOTES % -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2160 Nov 11 2004 /usr/src/sys/alpha/conf/NOTES % -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 15923 Jun 16 01:53 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/NOTES % -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 33439 Jun 23 04:18 /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES % -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1781 Feb 26 10:33 /usr/src/sys/ia64/conf/NOTES % -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 24728 May 27 02:06 /usr/src/sys/pc98/conf/NOTES % -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3344 Jun 11 03:26 /usr/src/sys/sparc64/conf/NOTES and they contain architecture-dependent options for the specific architecture. > 3) What is needed for the FreeBSD kernel and what modules need to be > compiled in order to use IDE CD-burning. In linux previous to kernel > version 2.6.8 I know that SCSI was required, but now they are doing > proper IDE emulation. Look up the descriptions of the following options: % device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) % device cd # CD % device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) % device atapicam # emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI ditto via CAM % # needs CAM to be present (scbus & pass) This should get you started for now. This list exists specifically for asking questions about FreeBSD, what it is, how it works, etc. Please, if you need to, feel free to ask any questions. Welcome to FreeBSD :-) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 01:31:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0F616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:31:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAD843D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:31:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:33958 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DlGYe-0003oB-Nv for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:31:08 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:31:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-index: AcV3kzo74QTygKxNSxymMN0SAGG6dQ== Message-Id: <20050623013109.EFAD843D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: stat running as www weirdness - genarting INCOMING traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:31:10 -0000 Hi all, =20 I=92m seeing weirdness of stat opening up port 4000+ and = generating/receiving enormous amounts of incoming traffic i.e. 400Gb over a 24hour time period.Does this sound familiar to anyone ? 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Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: = 06/21/2005 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 01:43:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8363416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:43:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3A043D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:43:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j5N1h9DM085724; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Matt Juszczak Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <42B98AD0.7080508@atopia.net> <945588776.20050622191046@ramb.com.ua> <42B99C8C.5030608@atopia.net> In-Reply-To: <42B99C8C.5030608@atopia.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:43:11 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:14:52 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >That's exactly our config. SMP, 4 gb RAM, HT was enabled, no longer. =20 >Should I upgrade to 5.4-STABLE? Is there a bug ? Is 5.4-STABLE=20 >"stable" enough? :) Also, if I cvsup to 5.4-STABLE right now, would I=20 >be able to upgrade to 5.5-RELEASE with no probs, or would I forever be=20 >at -STABLE? No, you could update to 5.5R without issue. In fact, moving to 6.0R from 5.x without having to re-install like going from 4.x to 5.x is the plan Personally, I would update to RELENG_5 as of today. There are a lot of bug fixes and its quite solid.. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 01:43:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121FD16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:43:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205B843D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:43:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N1hkrT063478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:43:46 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5N1hkWI097845; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:43:46 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:43:46 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506230143.j5N1hkWI097845@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <42B91313.9050807@bhi-hamburg.de> (message from Titus von Boxberg on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:28:19 +0200) References: <200506220411.j5M4BQ6G087888@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <42B91313.9050807@bhi-hamburg.de> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: Subject: Re: Using regex(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:43:51 -0000 Thanks Titus, > no, you're misunderstanding regoff_t or printf. I definitely misunderstand printf. Until now I thought that each place holder (%d) was associated with one variable and if the type missmatched, the display could be incorrect. But in that case, printf seems to take 2 successive %d and split the variable upon them to make it a %lld. I am no C guru, but that sound very bad to me. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 01:45:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29A416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC28A43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 22344412D; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205E0412A; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:45:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050622214454.Q51171@neptune.atopia.net> References: <42B98AD0.7080508@atopia.net> <945588776.20050622191046@ramb.com.ua> <42B99C8C.5030608@atopia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:15 -0000 > > Personally, I would update to RELENG_5 as of today. There are a lot of > bug fixes and its quite solid.. Did the upgrade earlier to two of five machines (the ones that were crashing). We'll see what happens :) Thanks! Any planned date for 5.5-RELEASE? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 02:05:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D5616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:05:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwschenk@socal.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D6D43D55 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:05:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwschenk@socal.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-70-93-111-189.socal.res.rr.com [70.93.111.189]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5N25gX7013378 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42BA18F3.8080204@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:05:39 -0700 From: Gary Schenk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050519 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050622073515.C89C016A41F@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050622073515.C89C016A41F@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:05:47 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Then read one of the many FreeBSD books. The one by Annelise Anderson >is most certainly not written for serious IT professionals. I know >because I have read it. As a non-serious non-IT non-professional, I keep going back to this book time and time again. Even after almost three years with FreeBSD I'm still a rookie, and her book makes sense. FreeBSD Unleashed is also helpful. Only in the last year or so has the handbook started to make sense to me. Even scarier, some man pages are readable now. Greg Lehey's book on the other hand is in another solar system! :-) I replaced Win98 with FreeBSD 4.7 as a home desktop. I really should be using Xandros or SuSE, but I find learning FreeBSD to be interesting, Lord help me. People on this list are very helpful to beginners. Especially if the beginner has shown she's put some effort into the problem herself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 02:32:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F24B16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:32:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084F543D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:32:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5N2ahL8064038; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5N2aSC3064037; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:36:27 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050623023627.GA63945@thought.org> References: <20050623001343.GA63523@thought.org> <20050623005626.GB1523@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050623005626.GB1523@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: private/internal db file question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:32:46 -0000 On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 03:56:26AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-06-22 17:13, Gary Kline wrote: > > Folks, > > After years or trying, I may have my private/internal DNS db files > > working. From a colo machine I can reach my internal servers. One > > small question for the DNS wizards out there:: are the last > > ".in-addr.arpa" lines considered good-form? Can I blow them away or > > uncomment them? > > Strip them off. Thank you. > > You didn't specify which zone this file was a database for, but looking at the > commented lines it seems like it's the reverse resolution database for > 10.0.0.0/8 (your internal network). DNS records in zone files like this one > refer to addresses "relative" to the zone itself, which is probably defined as > the following in your named.conf configuration file: > > zone "0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { > type master; > file "master/10.0.0.rev"; > }; In named.conf I have two files; one is the .rev table: zone "db.private" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/s/db.private"; allow-query { 127.0.0.1/32; 10.0.0.0/8; }; }; zone "db/private.rev" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/s/db.private.rev"; allow-query { 127.0.0.1/32; 10.0.0.0/8; }; }; Below the SOA in db.private is: ; ;; real nameserver: ; IN NS ns1.thought.org. ; ; Machines names ; ;name ttl class type data localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 ; ethic IN A 10.0.0.220 tao IN A 10.0.0.247 sage IN A 10.0.0.1 zen IN A 10.0.0.249 ns1, aka sage, is defined in my main DNS table, db.thought.org. > > This definition of the zone in named.conf declares that addresses of the form > 10.0.0.X will be looked up as PTR records of X in the file "master/10.0.0.rev" > under you named server root directory, i.e. > > ADDRESS DB-FILE RECORD > 10.0.0.1 master/10.0.0.rev 1 > 10.0.0.2 master/10.0.0.rev 2 > ... > 10.0.0.254 master/10.0.0.rev 254 > > Usually, the most tricky part is grasping that "1.0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA." is >ewhat BIND looks up to find the name (or names) associated with the address > 10.0.0.1 (note the reversed byte order of the address parts). Well, it's not only tricky, it's bloody confusing... :-) > > > ;name ttl class type data > > 1 IN PTR localhost > > 1 IN PTR sage > > 220 IN PTR ethic > > 247 IN PTR tao > > 249 IN PTR zen > > These look mostly ok, but you may want to fix the following: > > - "localhost" is usually assigned to 127.0.0.1, not 10.0.0.1 > - the "IN" column is *NOT* the TTL (time to live) of a record What would you replace these row tags with? ((I got these from another database file, obv'ly.) ;name ttl class type data Would: ;record class pointer name name sense? (Help me keep these details straight, in other words:) gary > > > ; > Note that O'Reilly has an excellent book ("DNS & BIND") which you may > find immensely useful in setting up practically any sort of DNS server. > PS: YES!! I read ed 3 and bought edition 4; they helped me get going when I onlt had one FBSD system. .... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 03:35:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D043F16A41F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:35:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03BB643D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:35:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 7383 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 03:35:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by salvador with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 03:35:43 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050623033543.CIHE28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:35:43 +0800 Message-ID: <42BA2E0D.2090001@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:35:41 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:35:46 -0000 Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>I do not think that it the design of Windows which makes it target. It >>is the kind of support people with no knowledge get which makes it. > > > People pay for Windows, not for FreeBSD. The support structures are > totally different because of this. If support is what hinges on getting I am not talking of the support people get by paying for it. Just go to any support forum, mailing list or what ever name it has and compare the tone used there. The support is done by volunteers just like here. While people asking 'dumb' questions around FreeBSD just get a RTFM while the same question around Windows might gives them a lot of verbal abuse plus the answer. If a person wastes its time to write 'RTFM', the same person could also write 'RTFM at page xx' and the answer is useful. >>If people with no knowledge would get proper answers when they run into >>problems instead of the hint to read the manual would help a lot here. >> > > > Why should they? If they were paying someone for FreeBSD support that > is one thing. Nobody is getting paid to answer questions on the mailing > list and on Usenet, if a no-knowledge person asks a question that is > answered in the manual, then it is going overboard already, to even > tell them to RTFM. They really shouldn't be asking questions if they > haven't RTFMed. > Why do I hear people crying about the acceptance of FreeBSD in this list? It is the atidute shown above which stops people jumping onto FreeBSD. > >>What is the difference to FreeBSD if the system is running once? >> > Bringing a large number of ignoramuses on board who are dedicated to > continuing to be ignoramuses, does not help the FreeBSD project at > all. It may help some people making money off servicing those people, > but otherwise they are deadweight. > Then, never complain that FreeBSD does not reach a higher market share. > You know, even raw newbies who have RTFM can help the FreeBSD project > by answering posts on the support forums with pointers to the manual!! > Yes, just let them do so. But it happens to rearely. > > Proper help is in the manual, it is in my book, and in Greg Lehey's book, > and in several other books written by a number of people. My book is I have to take my neighbour with her Ph.D. in biology again. We can assume she has proven not to be a plain idiot. She got some of the book, looked at them for some days and said 'why should I study IT before I can use FreeBSD'. > I am sorry you are going to have to do better than that. The proper > help is out there, you just have to spend a little effort looking for it. > It is out there but written in a language a none IT person has problems with. The starter of this thread is trying to do something into this direction. > > I can only ask why do you bother to garden in the first place? Without > that background, you don't know why the pesticide that she recommends > works. And next season if it doesen't work, you don't know why either. > I hope you never fall sick or have to undergo a serious surgery. As long as you do not understand how the whole procedure works, the doctor will not be able to treat you. > It's like the saying "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach > him to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" You just want the fish - I > want to feed myself for the rest of my life. > No, I want to make him able to catch the fish without knowledge of breeding. > Sadly, your attitude is one of the reasons that the United States is > being > run into the ground by a bunch of religious conservatives these days. > Those > people are just like you - they don't want to know anything about Stem > Cell > research, they just want to be told whether it's bad or not. > > Honestly, before you knock it, you should try to understand how the world > works sometime. It's really a better way to live. Do you really want to Let me put it this way. A long time ago, we call it now stone age, the people started to realise that a group of people shows better results if they specialise. The people better in hunting went hunting, the people better in 'farming'. Despite one group did not know how the other group got their kind of food, they shared it. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 03:43:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6943616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:43:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal.mr.k@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309CA43D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:43:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal.mr.k@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so819844nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:43:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s3btkMZsy2M6NWgYztiyIeUPwsNrFsoKQNE+JBfG48TdK5gUu5FlYiaX+/0Ic8VcaJ1zdggxTS4y2kBVXrWR5xaHSUqP2BzB/8FOis1A+DbXJExOrNQGxEKI3Z555oHIqhFUvV1xlmL137GItHDNyts+aA1fT1oK1OkNWRJk3xk= Received: by 10.36.41.11 with SMTP id o11mr514313nzo; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.7 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:43:42 -0700 From: Rogue_Spider To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44oea9ssua.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <44oea9ssua.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Subject: Re: acroread porting problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rogue_Spider List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:43:43 -0000 On 13 Jun 2005 20:08:29 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Rogue_Spider writes: >=20 > > I installed a port acroread from my sysinsall > > from freebsd 5.0 iso on my system i than told > > kde to use acroread to open all pdf files > > ghostview would not work so i decided to > > use acroread when i than try to launch the > > program it says "cant find acroread" > > i found the exe and tried to launch it by > > itself again same message? i read that > > there was some problems with it being > > ported to the wrong directory, is that the problem? > > if so what directory should it be in? >=20 > /usr/local/bin/acroread >=20 > Either add /usr/local/bin to your path or call it with the entire path. >=20 pretend i am knew to freebsd / i am \ ok=20 i tried moving shell script from /usr/local/acroread5/bin to /usr/local/bin/ -didna work- do i move the entire folder over?executable?or other? --=20 Who knows the web better than anyone? Rogue_Spider and Google. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 03:46:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376D116A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:46:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@sixbellsmedia.com) Received: from lws5.mcgoohq.com.au (lws5.mcgoohq.com.au [150.101.195.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BBA43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:46:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@sixbellsmedia.com) Received: from cpe-147-10-253-75.wa.bigpond.net.au ([147.10.253.75] helo=GNOME) by lws5.mcgoohq.com.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DlIfo-0003Oy-2Z for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:46:40 +1000 Message-ID: <000a01c577a6$26b32bc0$6400a8c0@GNOME> From: "John Anderson" To: References: <000601c57649$daa14760$5a24ebdc@GNOME> <44ll52jwzr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:46:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lws5.mcgoohq.com.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sixbellsmedia.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Subject: Re: Firewall with USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:46:47 -0000 Hi, USB is not totally irrelevant, since it means I can't connect my firewall/router directly to my input, but I take your point. I will have USB connections to my ISDN upload and my satellite decoder, my question was more whether freebsd firewall supports USB devices in principle for the WAN or whether it will only take ethernet WAN and LAN. I guess the answer was yes, so long as the drivers for my external devices exist. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Gilbert" To: "John Anderson" ; Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Firewall with USB > "John Anderson" writes: > >> Hi there folks, >> >> Having just moved into the country I am forced to use satellite for a >> broadband connection. Due to telsra having a monopoly on this, I need to >> have 2 USB connections, one for satellite download, one for ISDN upload. >> So my router doesn't fit. >> >> Does anyone know if the freebsd firewall will support two USB WAN >> connections to a normal LAN internal network? > > USB is irrelevant; you need to consider what kind of USB devices you > using to connect. Having more than one external interface is not by > itself a problem. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 04:04:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCFA16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:04:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from host78.ipowerweb.com (host78.ipowerweb.com [66.235.200.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B16443D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:04:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from c-67-190-22-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.190.22.43] helo=electricblue) by host78.ipowerweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DlIxB-0006N4-DM; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:04:37 -0700 From: "Brian Duke" To: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:04:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <200506211810.11600.ckleski@mbc.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcV2rdS1oKyjCU/vTMeS2qQIhlDOngA+cTew X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host78.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - box201.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20050623040437.0B16443D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: 'Craig Kleski' Subject: RE: BTX loader fails on Gateway ALR 9200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:04:37 -0000 I have an abundance of information all I need to know is what to say that will help. The OS I am loading is currently FreeBSD 5.3 I went to adaptec and found some information about FreeBSD 4.11. I tried that version as well. I can get Solaris 10 to load but it fails to find the raid as a valid drive. Fedora Core 2 also boots and says it can't find a drive. The Raid boots up fine and builds with no faults. When I install a little 850 meg IDE drive and set that to master, Still the btx loader dies. Here is what the final screen says: /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x3fbfc data=0x1c04+0x112c syms=[0x4+0x72f0+0x4+0x97c7] / int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030002 eip=00005755 eax=00000001 ebx=00000008 ecx=000039ff edx=00000082 esi=0000579c edi=0000e873 edi=000003ba esp=0000037e cs=f000 ds=0040 es=f000 fs=9dc0 gs=f000 ss=9c46 cs:eip=2e 0f 01 14 0f 20 c0 0c-01 0f 22 c0 eb 00 8e db 8e c3 8e e3 8e eb 0f 20-c0 24 fc 0f 22 c0 ea 78 ss:esp=11 64 08 00 01 00 00 00-00 f0 c0 9d 02 02 51 e8 05 00 c2 ee 05 00 00 f0-00 00 1a 7d c4 5e dd e6 BTX Halted I think I copied all that correctly. Has anyone got a quick idea why this fails right off? Does this mean I need to set the same flags as what Adi Pircalabu suggested in the "help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thread? " When the boot menu appears, try this: - escape to loader prompt - set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" - set hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x9" - boot" Would this help me? In this case I'm lost here. > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig Kleski [mailto:ckleski@mbc.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:10 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Brian Duke > Subject: Re: BTX loader fails on Gateway ALR 9200 > > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:58 pm, Brian Duke wrote: > > The BTX loader fails right after the initial setup screen. > > > > I have : > > > > Gateway ALR 9200 > > > > 4 processor xeon 500's > > > > 1 gig ram > > > > 1 adaptec 3200S scsi card running modified raid 5 > > > > 6 drives. 2 sets of striped 3 and mirrored. > > > > > > > > I am having a difficult time finding anything that will load in this > > box. > > > > I prefer FreeBSD if possible. I've googled for a couple days and > > didn't find much help. > > > > Can someone help me get past this first hurdle? > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian Duke > > > > Blue Incorporated. > > > > Please give freebsd version. Also, what other operating systems have > failed to load for you? How exactly does the boot fail? Any error > messages? Describe in detail. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 04:33:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D8B16A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:33:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0121D43D48; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:33:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DlJPX-0001SO-Jx; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:33:55 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:34:46 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <42BA2E0D.2090001@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <42BA2E0D.2090001@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506222334.46444.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc23d31dff1eeaa88193dcbfdc3e987a89350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz , questions@freebsd.org, Erich Dollansky , Ted Mittelstaedt , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:33:57 -0000 On Wednesday 22 June 2005 10:35 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, /--big snip--/ > > Let me put it this way. A long time ago, we call it now stone age, > the people started to realise that a group of people shows better > results if they specialise. The people better in hunting went > hunting, the people better in 'farming'. Despite one group did not > know how the other group got their kind of food, they shared it. > > Erich That's a great analogy; but I disagree with the way you've applied it. Yes, the hunters and farmers shared the food. That's not to say that the farmers wanted to use the bows and arrows, or that the hunters wanted to use a harvesting tool. If a farmer chose to use a bow and arrow, he/she would be irresponsible not to take a safety lesson (RTFM). Users taste the fruit of FreeBSD whenever they use a service hosted on a FreeBSD server. Most Windows users don't care how they got the fruit. That's okay. FreeBSD users are currently "specialized" in their interest in computer technology when compared to the average Windows user. That's okay too. Specialized tools serve are used by specialized individuals; although all may benefit indirectly. I support better documentation. I don't think there's any argument there. The idea that FreeBSD should be usable for all levels of computer users, however, is like putting training wheels on a racing bicycle. Any time you modify a professional tool to make it accessible to all, the tool loses some level of efficiency or power. In the case of FreeBSD, it would also absorb valuable development resources. All of this reminds me of a book I saw at Barnes & Noble last year: "Bioinfomatics for Dummies". Think about it: does anyone on this list want a dummy messing with genetics? Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 04:33:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D8B16A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:33:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0121D43D48; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:33:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DlJPX-0001SO-Jx; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:33:55 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:34:46 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <42BA2E0D.2090001@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <42BA2E0D.2090001@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506222334.46444.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc23d31dff1eeaa88193dcbfdc3e987a89350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz , questions@freebsd.org, Erich Dollansky , Ted Mittelstaedt , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:33:57 -0000 On Wednesday 22 June 2005 10:35 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, /--big snip--/ > > Let me put it this way. A long time ago, we call it now stone age, > the people started to realise that a group of people shows better > results if they specialise. The people better in hunting went > hunting, the people better in 'farming'. Despite one group did not > know how the other group got their kind of food, they shared it. > > Erich That's a great analogy; but I disagree with the way you've applied it. Yes, the hunters and farmers shared the food. That's not to say that the farmers wanted to use the bows and arrows, or that the hunters wanted to use a harvesting tool. If a farmer chose to use a bow and arrow, he/she would be irresponsible not to take a safety lesson (RTFM). Users taste the fruit of FreeBSD whenever they use a service hosted on a FreeBSD server. Most Windows users don't care how they got the fruit. That's okay. FreeBSD users are currently "specialized" in their interest in computer technology when compared to the average Windows user. That's okay too. Specialized tools serve are used by specialized individuals; although all may benefit indirectly. I support better documentation. I don't think there's any argument there. The idea that FreeBSD should be usable for all levels of computer users, however, is like putting training wheels on a racing bicycle. Any time you modify a professional tool to make it accessible to all, the tool loses some level of efficiency or power. In the case of FreeBSD, it would also absorb valuable development resources. All of this reminds me of a book I saw at Barnes & Noble last year: "Bioinfomatics for Dummies". Think about it: does anyone on this list want a dummy messing with genetics? Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 05:17:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3775E16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:17:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from host78.ipowerweb.com (host78.ipowerweb.com [66.235.200.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1647A43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:17:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from c-67-190-22-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.190.22.43] helo=electricblue) by host78.ipowerweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DlK5E-00050U-Kp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:17:00 -0700 From: Sender: "Brian Duke" To: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:16:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcV2rdS1oKyjCU/vTMeS2qQIhlDOngA+cTewAAK2AyA= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host78.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - box201.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20050623051700.1647A43D53@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: BTX loader fails on Gateway ALR 9200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:17:00 -0000 I have an abundance of information all I need to know is what to say that will help. The OS I am loading is currently FreeBSD 5.3 I went to adaptec and found some information about FreeBSD 4.11. I tried that version as well. I can get Solaris 10 to load but it fails to find the raid as a valid drive. Fedora Core 2 also boots and says it can't find a drive. The Raid boots up fine and builds with no faults. When I install a little 850 meg IDE drive and set that to master, Still the btx loader dies. Here is what the final screen says: /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x3fbfc data=0x1c04+0x112c syms=[0x4+0x72f0+0x4+0x97c7] / int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030002 eip=00005755 eax=00000001 ebx=00000008 ecx=000039ff edx=00000082 esi=0000579c edi=0000e873 edi=000003ba esp=0000037e cs=f000 ds=0040 es=f000 fs=9dc0 gs=f000 ss=9c46 cs:eip=2e 0f 01 14 0f 20 c0 0c-01 0f 22 c0 eb 00 8e db 8e c3 8e e3 8e eb 0f 20-c0 24 fc 0f 22 c0 ea 78 ss:esp=11 64 08 00 01 00 00 00-00 f0 c0 9d 02 02 51 e8 05 00 c2 ee 05 00 00 f0-00 00 1a 7d c4 5e dd e6 BTX Halted I think I copied all that correctly. Has anyone got a quick idea why this fails right off? Does this mean I need to set the same flags as what Adi Pircalabu suggested in the "help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thread? " When the boot menu appears, try this: - escape to loader prompt - set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" - set hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x9" - boot" Would this help me? In this case I'm lost here. > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig Kleski [mailto:ckleski@mbc.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:10 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Brian Duke > Subject: Re: BTX loader fails on Gateway ALR 9200 > > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:58 pm, Brian Duke wrote: > > The BTX loader fails right after the initial setup screen. > > > > I have : > > > > Gateway ALR 9200 > > > > 4 processor xeon 500's > > > > 1 gig ram > > > > 1 adaptec 3200S scsi card running modified raid 5 > > > > 6 drives. 2 sets of striped 3 and mirrored. > > > > > > > > I am having a difficult time finding anything that will load in this > > box. > > > > I prefer FreeBSD if possible. I've googled for a couple days and > > didn't find much help. > > > > Can someone help me get past this first hurdle? > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian Duke > > > > Blue Incorporated. > > > > Please give freebsd version. Also, what other operating systems have > failed to load for you? How exactly does the boot fail? Any error > messages? Describe in detail. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 06:05:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFF016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:05:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2C3A43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:05:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 29306 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 06:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by salvador with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 06:05:11 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050623060511.DGCA28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:05:11 +0800 Message-ID: <42BA5112.6050108@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:05:06 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew L. Gould" References: <42BA2E0D.2090001@pacific.net.sg> <200506222334.46444.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200506222334.46444.algould@datawok.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:05:14 -0000 Hi, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Wednesday 22 June 2005 10:35 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >>Hi, > > /--big snip--/ > That was a good idea. > That's a great analogy; but I disagree with the way you've applied it. > > Yes, the hunters and farmers shared the food. That's not to say that > the farmers wanted to use the bows and arrows, or that the hunters > wanted to use a harvesting tool. If a farmer chose to use a bow and > arrow, he/she would be irresponsible not to take a safety lesson > (RTFM). Will ever any farmer have taken a bow if there was no other way than RTFM? Just give them the bow, make sure nothing happens to yourself and otehr and let them have a try. > > That's okay. FreeBSD users are currently "specialized" in their This is one of the reasons of low 'market' share. > interest in computer technology when compared to the average Windows > user. That's okay too. Specialized tools serve are used by > specialized individuals; although all may benefit indirectly. > > I support better documentation. I don't think there's any argument I would not say there is a need for a better documentation as people who are IT professionals are fine with it. There is the need for a second set of documentation the avarage person on the road will understand. > there. The idea that FreeBSD should be usable for all levels of > computer users, however, is like putting training wheels on a racing > bicycle. Any time you modify a professional tool to make it accessible If Porsche would stop selling cars to people not pushing the cars to the limit, they would sell a few hundreds a year instead of many tenthousands. > to all, the tool loses some level of efficiency or power. In the case > of FreeBSD, it would also absorb valuable development resources. > This is what it should not. I think that there are enough people here who like to help out with their limited knowledge if there would not be this certain tone here if people do not use a very serious tone and lingo in their answers. > All of this reminds me of a book I saw at Barnes & Noble last year: > "Bioinfomatics for Dummies". Think about it: does anyone on this list > want a dummy messing with genetics? > We do not want them to run web server, just normal home PCs with FreeBSD instead of Windows or Linux. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 06:05:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A3316A443 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:05:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2E0D43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:05:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 29306 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 06:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by salvador with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 06:05:11 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050623060511.DGCA28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:05:11 +0800 Message-ID: <42BA5112.6050108@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:05:06 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew L. Gould" References: <42BA2E0D.2090001@pacific.net.sg> <200506222334.46444.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200506222334.46444.algould@datawok.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:05:20 -0000 Hi, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Wednesday 22 June 2005 10:35 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >>Hi, > > /--big snip--/ > That was a good idea. > That's a great analogy; but I disagree with the way you've applied it. > > Yes, the hunters and farmers shared the food. That's not to say that > the farmers wanted to use the bows and arrows, or that the hunters > wanted to use a harvesting tool. If a farmer chose to use a bow and > arrow, he/she would be irresponsible not to take a safety lesson > (RTFM). Will ever any farmer have taken a bow if there was no other way than RTFM? Just give them the bow, make sure nothing happens to yourself and otehr and let them have a try. > > That's okay. FreeBSD users are currently "specialized" in their This is one of the reasons of low 'market' share. > interest in computer technology when compared to the average Windows > user. That's okay too. Specialized tools serve are used by > specialized individuals; although all may benefit indirectly. > > I support better documentation. I don't think there's any argument I would not say there is a need for a better documentation as people who are IT professionals are fine with it. There is the need for a second set of documentation the avarage person on the road will understand. > there. The idea that FreeBSD should be usable for all levels of > computer users, however, is like putting training wheels on a racing > bicycle. Any time you modify a professional tool to make it accessible If Porsche would stop selling cars to people not pushing the cars to the limit, they would sell a few hundreds a year instead of many tenthousands. > to all, the tool loses some level of efficiency or power. In the case > of FreeBSD, it would also absorb valuable development resources. > This is what it should not. I think that there are enough people here who like to help out with their limited knowledge if there would not be this certain tone here if people do not use a very serious tone and lingo in their answers. > All of this reminds me of a book I saw at Barnes & Noble last year: > "Bioinfomatics for Dummies". Think about it: does anyone on this list > want a dummy messing with genetics? > We do not want them to run web server, just normal home PCs with FreeBSD instead of Windows or Linux. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 06:19:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6EF16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:19:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A7D43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 2874 invoked by uid 510); 23 Jun 2005 06:19:25 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.85/888. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.8/5.0):. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:19:29 -0000 On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 20:39, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote: > > Please advise me , I would like to know that : Does BSD5.4 > > support "High Availability Clustering" same like RedHatAS3.0 ? In > > term of the capability to handle share disk-storage to support > > redundancy of fail over single point of failure, that if one server > > fail then another one can be promote to handle application service > > by share disk-storage in a middle. > > Hmm. The answer is probably no, FreeBSD doesn't have anything which > handles NFS or Samba failover transparently. Chuck, Sorry to disagree. There is a port of Heartbeat to free BSD, (it is in the ports). It does handle NFS and Samba failover transparently. In fact it will handle almost anything that you can start and stop via a script. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 06:37:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1610716A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D8843D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:37:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5N6cPb29733; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sandy Rutherford" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:37:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <17081.14522.350761.161301@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alex Zbyslaw Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:37:26 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sandy >Rutherford >Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:09 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Alex Zbyslaw >Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) > > >>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:00:09 -0700, >>>>>> "Ted Mittelstaedt" said: > > > With a RAID-1 card, mirroring, there are 2 ways to setup reads. > > The first way makes the assumption that you are mirroring purely > > for fault tolerance. In that case you would NOT see a ANY read from > > the second disk. The reason is that every time you read you move the > > heads, and the more head movement the quicker the disk wears out. > >OK. I wasn't aware that some RAID cards allow you to tune reads in >this way. Mine, which is a Mylex DAC1100, does not. > I was speaking from more of a designers theoretical standpoint rather than a users. From a practical standpoint I would think that the marketing department of any RAID card manufacturer would throw up their hands in horror if a engineer suggested doing it this way - the marketing people would say that the buyers of the card would think it was broken if they didn't see blinky lights on all the disk drives all the time. :-) You see many otherwise good designs fucked up this way by marketing people. :-( > > Placing exactly the same amount of head movement on both disks > > means that if you setup a mirror with new disks of the same model, > > which is pretty much how most people do it, the MTBF on both disks > > is the same, and if you put equal activity on both disks your making > > a very good chance that they will fail at the same time, or >very close > > to the same time. > >This assumes a small standard deviation --- much smaller than I would >think is reasonable. I don't think that I have ever seen standard >deviation data quoted by a manufacturer, which of course makes any MTBF >data that they provide worthless. > Ah, but you see your working with the definition of MTBF that I used, and that the general public uses, NOT the definition of MTBF that Seagate uses. (or the other disk manufacturers) Seagate wrote a paper on this titled: "Seagate Technology Paper 338.1 Estimating Drive Reliability in Desktop Computers and Consumer Electronic Systems" that explains how they define MTBF. Basically, they define MTBF as what percentage of disks will fail in the FIRST year. What they are saying is if you purchase 160 Cheetahs and run them at 100% duty cycle for 1 year then there is 100% chance that 1 out of the 160 will fail. Thus, if you only purchase 80 disks and run them at 100% duty cycle for 1 year, then you only have a 50% chance that 1 will fail. And so on. Ain't statistics grand? You can make them say anything! For an encore Seagate went on to prove that their CEO would live 3 centuries by statistical grouping. :-) So, in getting back to the gist of what I was saying, the issue is as you mentioned standard deviation. I think we all understand that in a disk drive assembly line that it's all robotic, and that there is an extremely high chance that disk drives that are within a few serial numbers of each other are going to have virtually identical characteristics. In fact I would say using the Seagate MTBF definition, that 1 in every 160 drives manufactured in a particular run is going to have a significant enough deviation to fail at a significantly different period of time, given identical workload. In short you have better than 99% chance that if you install 2 brand new Cheetahs that are from the same production run, they will have virtually identical characteristics. And, failure due to wear is going to be very similar - there's only so many times the disk head can seek before it's bearings are worn out - and your proposing to give them the exact same usage. The interesting thing about this is that as quoted MTBF goes up, the closer and closer to identical all your disk drives have to be. So the funny thing is that in a RAID-1 array, your better off with cheapo Barracutas which have much greater deviation between each drive, than the more expensive Cheetahs that have less deviation between each drive. > >I agree with all of this. However, I do indeed see alternate >flickering and the RAID array is sitting right in front of me. I >expect this has to do with how the intensity of the activity lights is >tied to seek vs read. If it matters, the drives are Cheetahs and they >are in a Sun Multipack hot swap box. > I think the reason your seeing alternation is that the disks are so damn fast that they complete their reads well before their internal buffers have finished emptying themselves over the SCSI bus to the array card. In other words, you wasted your money on your fast disks, if you had used slower disks you would see identical read performance but you would see less alternative flickering and more simultaneous and continuous activity. If you got a faster array card you wouldn't see the alternative flickering. Or, it could be the PCI bus not being fast enough for the array card. >Anyway, this is all minutia... > Now, don't lessen it. Disk drives are damn expensive espically the fast ones. It's a worthwhile discussion. Besides we can all laugh at Seagate. >I think that it is fair to say that the main point of this thread is >that if the behaviour of the drives' activity lights is not consistent >with your RAID setup, then you should investigate --- regardless of >what your RAID admin tool is saying. Would you agree with this? > I actually wonder these days if the disk drive activity lights really mean anything. How fast is the maximum turn on/turn off time of an LED? How fast is the average seek/read? How long must a light be present before the human eye registers it? It would not surprise me in the least if the disk manufacturers put circuitry in the light driver that adds an extra half second to the length of time that the light is on, merely so the human eye can register that it has in fact, turned on. Ah well, a computer just wouldn't be a computer without blinking lights on it!!! ;-) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 06:41:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EC616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:41:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from redpeace@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A98B43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:41:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from redpeace@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so602925wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:41:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=KOPLnMMI0CBb9a1FtCA+rpug5tI1Dwbx81pqqHc4awgN+ript8emlByKrGrRqOSXJe8stFWZ3NMG2d9eU80ET14kyTSTwH8LX09L1Xjf5XG12l1Ih6+iZimeh4tW6+v+iwO5LW0Aeatj37BS6pSAkg+Iox1lO4gekW18LwQ1Lts= Received: by 10.54.24.34 with SMTP id 34mr768111wrx; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.7 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:41:25 -0400 From: Dan Z To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ccd usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dan Z List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:41:26 -0000 Greetings, I'm planning a new install and my question regards the usage of ccd.=20 I have two disks of 30G and 20G. Is it possible to use ccd to create a single /usr partition across these two disks? How might this be done? Can it be done from the sysinstall menu off the boot disk or will I need to do some toying around after initial install is completed? Also, while not part of the ccd question, if I'm not mistaken, I can create multiple swap partitions to spread swap usage across multiple drives. Is this true? Thanks in advance. Dan Z. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 07:17:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9298216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:17:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: from smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au (smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.228.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2CF543D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: (qmail 31928 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 07:17:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.foo.lan) (218.214.176.70) by smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 07:17:19 -0000 From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:47:07 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506202304.j5KN4cPX000832@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200506202304.j5KN4cPX000832@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2267145.aKxcgZsRgO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506231647.15586.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Cc: Tuc at T-B-O-H , Alex Zbyslaw Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:17:20 -0000 --nextPart2267145.aKxcgZsRgO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 21 June 2005 08:34, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: > > If you have upgraded to 5.3-RELEASE-p15 why not just upgrade to > > 5.4-RELEASE-p*? > > I'm always nervous going up a release due to my NVIDIA card.... > > Thanks, Tuc I use the nvidia-driver port with xorg for my nvidia card and it doesn't ca= use=20 problems when upgrading the base system. The only "trouble" I ever have is= =20 when X is upgraded. After upgrading X, I also have to re-build my nvidia=20 drver. That's not a drama though, you just do do a portupgrade -f=20 nvidia-driver and it's fine. My current system started as 5.2.1-Release & is now on 5.4-p1. Even the cha= nge=20 from XFree86 to X.org didn't cause problems with the driver. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart2267145.aKxcgZsRgO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCumH7PUlnmbKkJ6ARAjPZAJ9ILqeIPC6WLt0gACeWlTeY/VbYDgCePbRa QlP9orYp3jI6fyrPySidEf8= =rR4M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2267145.aKxcgZsRgO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 07:36:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD28A16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:36:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1154C43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:36:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (wojtek@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N7ZqvN018327; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:35:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id j5N7ZpQc007334; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:35:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:35:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <42BA0AAE.2000502@u.washington.edu> Message-ID: References: <42BA0AAE.2000502@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Custom kernel config questions for Linux user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:36:04 -0000 > I was wondering if anyone could provide me an answer to the following > questions. Please keep in mind that by default I learned Unix on a Linux > system, so... please no flames :(. > 1) Is there any sort of configuration interface (ncurses, X, etc), or am I > 'stuck' with 'manually configuring' a textfile? yes you are - you will end more thinking less clicking. this system is actually MUCH easier than ncurses/X/whateven because you use any text editor. read file "NOTES" and "GENERIC" to make task easier. it is very good when you configure kernel not the first time, because you use your favourite config file as a base for new config, just changing few drivers and options etc. of course - feel free to write curses kernel configurator :)) > 2) Is there a complete list of features which can be enabled for the > kernel, other what was in the GENERIC configuration file? > 3) What is needed for the FreeBSD kernel and what modules need to be > compiled in order to use IDE CD-burning. In linux previous to kernel version burncd works as is. for cdrecord etc.. you need "cam" support - something like linux "SCSI emulation". but system's burncd works as is. unfortunately not for DVD writers yet. > 2.6.8 I know that SCSI was required, but now they are doing proper IDE > emulation. > Thanks, I'll most likely have more questions later. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 07:41:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A58016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:41:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984F643D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (wojtek@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N7euD4015215; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:40:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id j5N7etDR019779; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:40:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:40:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Benjamin Keating In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:41:00 -0000 > > I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite > little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what unless low performance (relative to CPU clocking) of periferals and memory isn't a problem for you all ITX boards should work. this lower end (800Mhz if i remember well) doesn't have cooler at all which is nice. but these VIA chipset is a bad thing. especially disk performance suffer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 08:01:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFDB16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:01:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mats.lindberg@se.transport.bombardier.com) Received: from smtp2.transport.bombardier.com (smtp2.transport.bombardier.com [20.133.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E2D43D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:01:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mats.lindberg@se.transport.bombardier.com) Received: from EMEAML02.UK.BOMBARDIER.TRANSPORT.COM (emea-ml02.atle.bombardier.com [10.157.248.22]) by smtp2.transport.bombardier.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id j5N81IEd017832; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:01:30 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20050622161636.GA11708@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> To: Giorgos Keramidas X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0 September 26, 2002 Message-ID: From: mats.lindberg@se.transport.bombardier.com Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:48:52 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on EMEA-ML02/Server/Transport/Bombardier(Release 6.0.3|September 18, 2003) at 06/23/2005 09:03:42 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Generating coredump's from within a signal handler. 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X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCg0K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 08:07:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04FE16A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4470443D55; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5N87Kb30072; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:07:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erich Dollansky" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:06:15 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <42BA2E0D.2090001@pacific.net.sg> Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:07:06 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:oceanare@pacific.net.sg] >Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz; questions@freebsd.org; advocacy@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > > >Hi, > >Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>>I do not think that it the design of Windows which makes it target. It >>>is the kind of support people with no knowledge get which makes it. >> >> >> People pay for Windows, not for FreeBSD. The support structures are >> totally different because of this. If support is what hinges >on getting > >I am not talking of the support people get by paying for it. Just go to >any support forum, mailing list or what ever name it has and >compare the >tone used there. > >The support is done by volunteers just like here. > >While people asking 'dumb' questions around FreeBSD just get a RTFM >while the same question around Windows might gives them a lot of verbal >abuse plus the answer. If a person wastes its time to write 'RTFM', the >same person could also write 'RTFM at page xx' and the answer is useful. > Tone is in the eye of the beholder. Sure, posts all contain a tone to them. But very little posted on this mailing list has been anywhere near as harsh as what you see sometimes on Usenet in the FreeBSD groups there. And I can tell you that absolutely nothing that I have EVER read here or on USENET has EVER held a candle to the power and majesty of the flames I used to read a decade ago the old WWIV network. (that software is available http://wwiv.sourceforge.net/ if you are interested) If you are put off by the tone of what you see here, you would become catatonic if you read 5 minutes of that. Those flamers were so good that they could cause temporary blindness to their victims. >> Bringing a large number of ignoramuses on board who are dedicated to >> continuing to be ignoramuses, does not help the FreeBSD project at >> all. It may help some people making money off servicing those people, >> but otherwise they are deadweight. >> >Then, never complain that FreeBSD does not reach a higher market share. > _I_ don't. Who does? > >I have to take my neighbour with her Ph.D. in biology again. We can >assume she has proven not to be a plain idiot. She got some of >the book, >looked at them for some days and said 'why should I study IT before I >can use FreeBSD'. > Why should I study the drivers manual before getting a drivers license? >> >> I can only ask why do you bother to garden in the first >place? Without >> that background, you don't know why the pesticide that she recommends >> works. And next season if it doesen't work, you don't know >why either. >> >I hope you never fall sick or have to undergo a serious >surgery. I've undergone far more serious surgery than you ever have, I'll wager. Try tumor removal. Where the tumor is next to your spine. You know, there's a few things in the way - like the small intestine. You wanna know what they do with that when they have to get at tumors at that location? I'll give you a hint - you don't get solid food for half a week at least before that operation, and your on an IV only, no drinking, for a day beforehand. > As long >as you do not understand how the whole procedure works, the doctor will >not be able to treat you. > That is correct. I don't allow someone to cut into my body until they have carefully explained how the whole procedure works and I understand it. I'm surprised you do. >> >> Honestly, before you knock it, you should try to understand >how the world >> works sometime. It's really a better way to live. Do you >really want to > >Let me put it this way. A long time ago, we call it now stone age, the >people started to realise that a group of people shows better >results if >they specialise. The people better in hunting went hunting, the people >better in 'farming'. Despite one group did not know how the other group >got their kind of food, they shared it. > And how exactly did they find out from the group of kids growing up each year which ones were better farmers and which ones were better hunters? At one point, the kids knew how to do both. You see, the stone age people understood that just because you had specialization, didn't mean that learning about someone else's specialty was a bad thing. After all, that other specialist might get et by a tiger, one day, and have to be replaced. That worked real well until the religious bigots came along and started enforcing stuff like the caste system, and forcing kids into the same jobs that their fathers, and father's fathers, and so on forever and ever, had held. That's when it became OK for everyone to be completely ignorant of how to do anyone elses' job but what their caste had always done. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 08:09:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F48816A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [195.115.46.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0463343D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:09:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C422428C65 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:09:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81189-02 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:09:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.30.1.200] (unknown [195.115.54.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20E92851A for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:09:41 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <658CA48E-E955-4075-8D6B-CF2AE6092ED3@todoo.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Liste FreeBSD From: bsd Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:09:32 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at rmm.fr Subject: RELENG_5_3 // RELENG_5_3_RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:09:47 -0000 Hi, I have configured my new BSD server with a RELENG_5_3 tag in the cvs-=20 supfile and I was wondering if I took the right track to update my =20 system. So far I have only compiled and installed the updated ports that I =20 need (in /usr/ports). Since I have switched to the 5_3 instead of 5_3_RELEASE, do I have to =20= do more updates for my system. I guess that the patched software that =20= have been released since the 5_3_RELEASE are included in the 5_3 and =20 that I have to install them somehow. So my question is how ? I guess that this is happening in /usr/src and that I have to "make" =20 something=85 Have you got a specific pointer of the steps I have to take to update =20= It properly. Do you think this is a good idea to stick to 5_3 instead of =20 5_3_RELEASE for a production system (mail server) ? Thanks for your advices. ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 08:15:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD8A16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:15:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A49943D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:15:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N8EuR0036050; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j5N8EucF036047; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17082.28544.491826.813510@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:14:56 -0700 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: References: <17081.14522.350761.161301@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:15:04 -0000 >>>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:37:20 -0700, >>>>> "Ted Mittelstaedt" said: > Seagate wrote a paper on this titled: > "Seagate Technology Paper 338.1 Estimating Drive Reliability in > Desktop Computers and Consumer Electronic Systems" > that explains how they define MTBF. Basically, they define MTBF as > what percentage of disks will fail in the FIRST year. Is this in the public domain? I wouldn't mind having a look at it. > What they are saying is if you purchase 160 Cheetahs and run them at > 100% duty cycle for 1 year then there is 100% chance that 1 out of the > 160 will fail. > Thus, if you only purchase 80 disks and run them at 100% duty cycle for 1 > year, then you only have a 50% chance that 1 will fail. And so on. > Ain't statistics grand? You can make them say anything! For an encore > Seagate went on to prove that their CEO would live 3 centuries > by statistical grouping. :-) Now don't knock statistics. The problem does not lie with statistics, but with its misuse by people who do not understand what they are doing. No, I am not a statistician; however, I am a mathematician. > So, in getting back to the gist of what I was saying, the issue is > as you mentioned standard deviation. I think we all understand that > in a disk drive assembly line that it's all robotic, and that there > is an extremely high chance that disk drives that are within a few > serial numbers of each other are going to have virtually identical > characteristics. In fact I would say using the Seagate MTBF definition, > that 1 in every 160 drives manufactured in a particular run is going > to have a significant enough deviation to fail at a significantly > different > period of time, given identical workload. I am not so sure. If we were talking about can openers, I would agree. However, a disk drive is basically a mechanical object which performs huge numbers of mechanical actions over the course of a number of years. Even extremely minute variations in the physical characteristics of the materials could lead to substantive variations over time. However, the operative word here is "could". Real data is required. I tried to google for a relevant study, but came up empty. This surprised me as it seems like the sort of thing that masses of data should have been collected for. > In short you have better than 99% chance that if you install 2 brand > new Cheetahs that are from the same production run, they will have > virtually identical characteristics. And, failure due to wear is going > to be > very similar - there's only so many times the disk head can seek > before it's bearings are worn out - and your proposing to give them > the exact same usage. > I think the reason your seeing alternation is that the disks are > so damn fast that they complete their reads well before their internal > buffers have finished emptying themselves over the SCSI bus to the > array card. In other words, you wasted your money on your fast > disks, Not much money. After having been burned by failures of lower end drives, I bought high-end stuff on EBay. Made me nervous at the beginning, because who knows how many flights of stairs the drive bounced down before it was popped into the mail, and for that matter, who knows how many flights of stairs it bounced down while it was in the mail. However, so far it has worked out quite well. > if you had used slower disks you would see identical read performance > but you would see less alternative flickering > and more simultaneous and continuous activity. > If you got a faster array card you wouldn't see the alternative > flickering. > Or, it could be the PCI bus not being fast enough for the array card. It's almost certainly the PCI bus. The DAC1100, although not state-of-the-art, is still reasonably fast. It has 3 U2W channels and it could certainly max out my PCI bus. > Ah well, a computer just wouldn't be a computer without blinking > lights on it!!! ;-) Gotta agree there;-) Once upon a time I had the dip switch settings required to boot a PDP-11 from the front panel memorized, because I had to do it so often. Our data runs extended far beyond the typical uptime, so we did checkpoints by dumping the relevant bits of core to a teletype and I used to have to re-type in the data from the teletype when we brought it back up after a crash. Even on an old PDP-11, this took a while. We needed 3 months+ of uptime and we did well if we could keep that thing up for longer than a week. I became well-acquainted with those dip switches. Sandy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 08:24:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D48416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:24:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (62-14-217-85.inversas.jazztel.es [62.14.217.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A8043D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.9.171] (generic.atosorigin.es [212.170.156.200]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1241CFD06B; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:24:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BA71BA.8000107@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:24:26 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050529) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Keating References: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:24:39 -0000 Benjamin Keating wrote: > I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite > little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what > model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go > for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and > pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I bought a VIA EPIA CL1000 (now PD, dual NIC) and a Morex Cubid 3688 case one year ago from mini-itx.com. I installed FBSD 4.10 and later FBSD 5.3-5.4 with out any problems. I haven't installed X11, I don't see the point as it's a server remotely controled with ssh, and I don't have a spare monitor anyway. The only issues I have had are: 'halt -p' reboots instead of powerdown, so I had to 'halt' then powerdown manually. ACPI doesn't read cpu temperature. I use it at home as my mail/web/whatever server with a DSL connection, generally with a load of 0.00. The DSL limits the traffic so it simply can't get too much network load. I have had one problem that gave me some grey hairs, which I initially thought it to be MB or disk problem, but it turned out to be ip-filter rather than hardware. mini-itx.com reports noice of < 25dB. The fans may produce that level of noice if they were not mounted. I found resonances causing the box to be quite noicy, in particular the cpu fan. You can buy some stuff to make the fan run slower and it helps. But what really helps is to reduce vibrations: Raise the cpu fan a bit from the cooler plates using some heat tolerable silicon, this makes the fan run more freely and transfers less resonances to the cooler plates and onto the MB. Also place the box on rubber feet so it won't pass on vibrations. I run my box with only the cpu fan, no others, the box is hot but it runs without problems. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:00:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9658C16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:00:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A7343D5C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:00:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so367010wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:00:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ryY0U4HrCruYT6+90oM5Zbksa2rDSwsq1zS6biLnGomdK3Zs/j76abJqDllh6Ya4P2XukpHhaxi6cDlxvDDAhKBolXRHWT03PAjoEsnZ94TGrZ2rg2MT8Sb40ImDbSZuRYnSM7aI96FZ7UGuRnE+eF/hMQwwR8GG4FOzLplC/ss= Received: by 10.54.118.1 with SMTP id q1mr180230wrc; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:00:50 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200506230143.j5N1hkWI097845@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506220411.j5M4BQ6G087888@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <42B91313.9050807@bhi-hamburg.de> <200506230143.j5N1hkWI097845@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using regex(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:00:51 -0000 On 6/23/05, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Thanks Titus, >=20 > > no, you're misunderstanding regoff_t or printf. >=20 > I definitely misunderstand printf. Until now I thought that each place > holder (%d) was associated with one variable and if the type > missmatched, the display could be incorrect. Not exactly. Each placeholder like %d is associated with a corresponding number of bytes placed on the stack for values passed to printf(). In addition, many compilers expand values being placed on the stack to the native data boundary. For example, compilers that produce 32-bit code often expand chars and shorts passed to printf() to ints; corresponding placeholders like %c etc know that those 32-bit values are just chars and shorts and treat them accordingly. If you by mistake use %u instead of %c, printf() may print garbage instead of corresponding char value, but subsequent placeholders will still correspond to correct 32-bit portions of the stack. 64-bit values in 32-bit code are different, because they occupy 2 32-bit chunks on the stack, and if you try to deal with them with %d's, without telling printf() that those are in fact 64-bit values with %lld or similar format specifiers, you'll cause subsequent format specifier to access the high-half of the 64-bit value instead of the corresponding value, and so on; from now on, the entire stack during the call to printf() is misaligned, and all subsequent format specifiers will print garbage. This may explain why you're seeing 0's instead of valid output in your program. Hope this helps. > But in that case, printf seems to take 2 successive %d and split the > variable upon them to make it a %lld. >=20 > I am no C guru, but that sound very bad to me. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:05:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C1616A41F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:05:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D66143D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:05:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 13742 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 09:05:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by salvador with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 09:05:00 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050623090500.UOA1233.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:05:00 +0800 Message-ID: <42BA7B35.60407@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:04:53 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:05:04 -0000 Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> > Tone is in the eye of the beholder. Sure, posts all contain a tone > to them. But very little posted on this mailing list has been > anywhere near as harsh as what you see sometimes on Usenet in the > FreeBSD groups there. > I did not say this at all. This tone is not abusive at all. It is also a very serious tone. The problem is that this is a tone a high number of people has problems with. > And I can tell you that absolutely nothing that I have EVER read > here or on USENET has EVER held a candle to the power and majesty Nothing ever came even close to the abuse at the national service I did. So, I also know the other extreme. >>Then, never complain that FreeBSD does not reach a higher market share. >> > _I_ don't. Who does? > Some do a logo contest to make FreeBSD more appearing, there is some activity going in. > >>I have to take my neighbour with her Ph.D. in biology again. We can >>assume she has proven not to be a plain idiot. She got some of >>the book, >>looked at them for some days and said 'why should I study IT before I >>can use FreeBSD'. >> > Why should I study the drivers manual before getting a drivers license? > I do not know why people do it. I just learned driving in a deserted place. > > > That is correct. I don't allow someone to cut into my body until they > have carefully explained how the whole procedure works and I understand > it. I'm surprised you do. > There is another difference. I asked 'my' surgeon a simple question: how many died in your hands doing this. The number wasn't zero but within avarage. With other words, I just trust them. > > And how exactly did they find out from the group of kids growing up > each year which ones were better farmers and which ones were better > hunters? > > At one point, the kids knew how to do both. You see, the stone age > people understood that just because you had specialization, didn't > mean that learning about someone else's specialty was a bad thing. But how deep did they go into the other's field? And, to come back to RTFM, did they first read a handbook or did they just have a try? > After all, that other specialist might get et by a tiger, one day, > and have to be replaced. > This happens now to specialists running Windows catching a virus too. > That worked real well until the religious bigots came along and started Yes, but there is a small difference to FreeBSD's use by others: they are not forced to use FreeBSD and they should be used to RTFM. There are so many people out there who do not understand things this way. Just allow them with some help from others who are willing to help. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:06:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9995516A420 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:06:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4166C43D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:06:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so371859wra for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:06:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NrY08TApiPfAaJYFtHDLKejjLEudfWruVI5rbD3O2Ddpw9kQHdFu56nSuYYda3pnDS6UewJ2U/rx1UQ0Itpax8EQPvBNxDGHPGdSst5dAWMFNOBaXavp6DQJHq+jZ0mkfGDM/oIbPqmxJ9qWfT6vAlgO1B+5TF/j7gXCVbfSxtI= Received: by 10.54.57.56 with SMTP id f56mr1017853wra; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:06:57 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Matt Juszczak In-Reply-To: <20050622214454.Q51171@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B98AD0.7080508@atopia.net> <945588776.20050622191046@ramb.com.ua> <42B99C8C.5030608@atopia.net> <20050622214454.Q51171@neptune.atopia.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:06:58 -0000 On 6/23/05, Matt Juszczak wrote: > > > > Personally, I would update to RELENG_5 as of today. There are a lot of > > bug fixes and its quite solid.. >=20 > Did the upgrade earlier to two of five machines (the ones that were > crashing). We'll see what happens :) Thanks! >=20 > Any planned date for 5.5-RELEASE? September 2005, according to http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:20:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A1116A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D73443D58 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5N9LEb30802; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sandy Rutherford" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:20:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <17082.28544.491826.813510@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:20:11 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sandy >Rutherford >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:15 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Yet another RAID Question (YARQ) > > >>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:37:20 -0700, >>>>>> "Ted Mittelstaedt" said: > > > Seagate wrote a paper on this titled: > > > "Seagate Technology Paper 338.1 Estimating Drive Reliability in > > Desktop Computers and Consumer Electronic Systems" > > > that explains how they define MTBF. Basically, they define MTBF as > > what percentage of disks will fail in the FIRST year. > >Is this in the public domain? I wouldn't mind having a look at it. > I don't think it is but you can find ANYTHING on the Internet no matter how embarassing or private: http://www.digit-life.com/articles/storagereliability/ > > > Ain't statistics grand? You can make them say anything! >For an encore > > Seagate went on to prove that their CEO would live 3 centuries > > by statistical grouping. :-) > >Now don't knock statistics. The problem does not lie with statistics, >but with its misuse by people who do not understand what they are >doing. No, I am not a statistician; however, I am a mathematician. > Then I am expecting you to read Seagates paper and after laughing your ass off, post a review of it here. :-) > > So, in getting back to the gist of what I was saying, the issue is > > as you mentioned standard deviation. I think we all understand that > > in a disk drive assembly line that it's all robotic, and that there > > is an extremely high chance that disk drives that are within a few > > serial numbers of each other are going to have virtually identical > > characteristics. In fact I would say using the Seagate MTBF >definition, > > that 1 in every 160 drives manufactured in a particular run is going > > to have a significant enough deviation to fail at a significantly > > different > > period of time, given identical workload. > >I am not so sure. If we were talking about can openers, I would >agree. However, a disk drive is basically a mechanical object which >performs huge numbers of mechanical actions over the course of a >number of years. Even extremely minute variations in the >physical characteristics of the materials could lead to substantive >variations over time. However, the operative word here is "could". >Real data is required. I tried to google for a relevant study, but >came up empty. This surprised me as it seems like the sort of thing >that masses of data should have been collected for. > I'm sure they are but it's all going to be useful to the competitors so I doubt the companies that collected the data will let it out. What your asking for are nothing less than the recipie for setting costs levels to make a disk drive assembly line profitable - and that is an assembly line that even at the best of it, operates with a razor thin margin. Getting back to the physical characteristics, yes I had thought of that too and it is a consideration on reliability. However, the speed and tolerances of these things is so tight that any significant manufacturing deviation from the design is going to have the effect of seriously shortening lifetime. Consider also the typical automobile engine - by comparison to drive manufacturing the allowable variations are huge - yet for most cars, the engines all fail around the 200,000 mile mark. I think manufacturing deviations effects are staggered - during the first year they matter the most, then in successive years they don't matter much. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:28:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE9416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:28:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9580543D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:28:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so376698wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:28:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p3PkvOl50ZNkZKVO5ankyn3T0OwYcY+45s+J6fNFG87aAR7p+Z4vcTzHTLIG7M8vvuEAT2S0kSSa5hi133IZAtA6WZmHF8r9av8ytCMiQagjXFoMPL1F/q/Pao62vPDhufBsnwef6b/cTU2klkh64iZ2lFI9AqLGd07p2xZ6gl4= Received: by 10.54.29.24 with SMTP id c24mr1014263wrc; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:28:19 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Dan Z In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ccd usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:28:24 -0000 On 6/23/05, Dan Z wrote: > Greetings, >=20 > I'm planning a new install and my question regards the usage of ccd. > I have two disks of 30G and 20G. Is it possible to use ccd to create > a single /usr partition across these two disks? How might this be > done? Can it be done from the sysinstall menu off the boot disk or > will I need to do some toying around after initial install is > completed? >=20 > Also, while not part of the ccd question, if I'm not mistaken, I can > create multiple swap partitions to spread swap usage across multiple > drives. Is this true? Yes, this is true. From http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-init= ial.html: "On larger systems with multiple SCSI disks (or multiple IDE disks operating on different controllers), it is recommend that a swap is configured on each drive (up to four drives). The swap partitions should be approximately the same size. The kernel can handle arbitrary sizes but internal data structures scale to 4 times the largest swap partition. Keeping the swap partitions near the same size will allow the kernel to optimally stripe swap space across disks" Hopefully your first question will be answered by somebody else. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:30:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBD016A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:30:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8E43D1D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:30:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5N9VTb30845; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erich Dollansky" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:30:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <42BA7B35.60407@pacific.net.sg> Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:30:33 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:oceanare@pacific.net.sg] >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:05 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz; questions@freebsd.org; advocacy@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > >>> >> _I_ don't. Who does? >> >Some do a logo contest to make FreeBSD more appearing, there is some >activity going in. Most of the rank and file argued long against that contest. >> Why should I study the drivers manual before getting a >drivers license? >> >I do not know why people do it. I just learned driving in a >deserted place. I didn't say "learned driving" I said "get a license" You have to learn what's in the manual to pass the test to get the license. >> >> >> That is correct. I don't allow someone to cut into my body until they >> have carefully explained how the whole procedure works and I >understand >> it. I'm surprised you do. >> >There is another difference. I asked 'my' surgeon a simple >question: how >many died in your hands doing this. The number wasn't zero but within >avarage. With other words, I just trust them. It's not a question of trust, it's a question of do I understand what is going to happen. I find post-operative pain a lot easier to bear when I know why it's hurting. > >Yes, but there is a small difference to FreeBSD's use by others: they >are not forced to use FreeBSD and they should be used to RTFM. > >There are so many people out there who do not understand things this >way. Just allow them with some help from others who are willing to help. > Ah, but help on who's terms? Telling a newbie to RTFM for an answer that he asks which is in the manual IS help. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:36:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD4716A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:36:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF7043D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:36:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5N9aHK6003075; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:36:17 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5N9aGHD016238; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:36:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5N9aGRO016237; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:36:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:36:15 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20050623093615.GE15615@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050623001343.GA63523@thought.org> <20050623005626.GB1523@gothmog.gr> <20050623023627.GA63945@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050623023627.GA63945@thought.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: private/internal db file question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:36:22 -0000 On 2005-06-22 19:36, Gary Kline wrote: > In named.conf I have two files; one is the .rev table: > > zone "db.private" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/s/db.private"; > allow-query { > 127.0.0.1/32; 10.0.0.0/8; > }; > }; > > zone "db/private.rev" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/s/db.private.rev"; > allow-query { > 127.0.0.1/32; 10.0.0.0/8; > }; > }; Something is very wrong above. You're not supposed to use "db.private" (i.e. the name of the _FILE_ that stores the zone records) as the first argument of the "zone" configuration directive. >>> ;name ttl class type data >>> 1 IN PTR localhost >>> 1 IN PTR sage >>> 220 IN PTR ethic >>> 247 IN PTR tao >>> 249 IN PTR zen >> >> These look mostly ok, but you may want to fix the following: >> >> - "localhost" is usually assigned to 127.0.0.1, not 10.0.0.1 >> - the "IN" column is *NOT* the TTL (time to live) of a record > > > What would you replace these row tags with? ((I got these from > another database file, obv'ly.) > > ;name ttl class type data > > Would: > > ;record class pointer name More like: ;name class type data 1 IN PTR sage From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 10:04:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4555216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:04:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 946E743D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2005 10:04:19 -0000 Received: from p548B7C48.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO localhost) [84.139.124.72] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 12:04:19 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5114400 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:03:53 +0200 From: Mario Hoerich To: bsd Message-ID: <20050623100353.GA1780@Pandora.MHoerich.de> References: <658CA48E-E955-4075-8D6B-CF2AE6092ED3@todoo.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <658CA48E-E955-4075-8D6B-CF2AE6092ED3@todoo.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: RELENG_5_3 // RELENG_5_3_RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:04:22 -0000 # bsd: > Since I have switched to the 5_3 instead of 5_3_RELEASE, do I have to > do more updates for my system. I guess that the patched software that > have been released since the 5_3_RELEASE are included in the 5_3 and > that I have to install them somehow. > > So my question is how ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > Do you think this is a good idea to stick to 5_3 instead of > 5_3_RELEASE for a production system (mail server) ? Yes. RELENG_5_3 is a security branch of 5.3-RELEASE and thus handled in a very conservative manner. No bad surprises there. Tracking it will get you updates iff they're strictly necessary. Regards, Mario -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 10:31:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1674F16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:31:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53BBE43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:31:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 20931 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 10:31:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by salvador with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 10:31:01 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.122.16]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20050623103101.FDWG28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:31:01 +0800 Message-ID: <42BA8F5D.5040504@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:30:53 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:31:04 -0000 Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>>_I_ don't. Who does? >>> >>Some do a logo contest to make FreeBSD more appearing, there is some >>activity going in. > > Most of the rank and file argued long against that contest. > Not only them. >>>Why should I study the drivers manual before getting a >> >>drivers license? >> >>I do not know why people do it. I just learned driving in a >>deserted place. > > > I didn't say "learned driving" I said "get a license" You have > to learn what's in the manual to pass the test to get the license. > I also never studied that one. With other words: there is more than one way to get the knowledge. > > It's not a question of trust, it's a question of do I understand what > is going to happen. I find post-operative pain a lot easier to bear > when I know why it's hurting. > I do not bother to understand as long they say it is all right. > > Ah, but help on who's terms? Telling a newbie to RTFM for an answer that > he asks which is in the manual IS help. > Yes, it is help. But how dumb does a person have to be if this is of real help? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 10:37:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF64E16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:37:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C62A43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:37:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7B8123A7E; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:35:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D2012B0FF; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:36:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42406-06; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:35:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D2712B0F8; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:35:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BA908D.4040408@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:35:57 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd References: <658CA48E-E955-4075-8D6B-CF2AE6092ED3@todoo.biz> In-Reply-To: <658CA48E-E955-4075-8D6B-CF2AE6092ED3@todoo.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: RELENG_5_3 // RELENG_5_3_RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:37:30 -0000 bsd wrote: > I have configured my new BSD server with a RELENG_5_3 tag in the cvs- > supfile and I was wondering if I took the right track to update my system. > > So far I have only compiled and installed the updated ports that I need > (in /usr/ports). Are you aware of the fact that the FreeBSD base system and kernel (/usr/src) have nothing to do with the ports (/usr/ports) in this context and should be handled seperately? > Since I have switched to the 5_3 instead of 5_3_RELEASE, do I have to > do more updates for my system. There is no RELENG_5_3_RELEASE tag; if you update your sources with this tag everything would be deleted. It's RELENG_5_3_0_RELEASE. Furthermore I can't imagine that this tag causes more updates; the branch RELENG_5_3_0_RELEASE remains untouched as far as I know. Read about the release engineering [1] and chapter 19 and 4 of the handbook [2] to learn more about updating FreeBSD and third-party software. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/index.html [2] http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 10:39:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E0316A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:39:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cknipe@hybyte.com) Received: from mail.uk.hybyte.net (mail.uk.hybyte.net [213.86.56.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4775043D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:39:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cknipe@hybyte.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.uk.hybyte.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78434EB2D3 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:36:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from by localhost (amavisd-new, port ) id 5HTuUDOo for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:36:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from MEGADROID (wbs-146-184-170.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.184.170]) by mail.uk.hybyte.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66A7EB2D1 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:36:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <084701c577df$cd256700$0b02a8c0@MEGADROID> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:39:11 +0200 Organization: HyByte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hybyte.com Cc: Subject: libc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:39:20 -0000 Lo all, Is there anywhere that I can see what has changed from FreeBSD 4.11 to FreeBSD 5.x, in regards to libc ? We are getting major errors and core dumps from one of our applications which runs flawlessly on 4.x, but just dumps on 5.x, complaining about __cxa_finalize () from /lib/libc.so.5 (FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE)... Would be good if someone can give some hints or pointers to debug this... Thanks allot, Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 10:52:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C1C16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:52:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tolid@plab.ku.dk) Received: from plab.ku.dk (plab.ku.dk [130.225.107.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C43A43D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:52:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tolid@plab.ku.dk) Received: from plab.ku.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plab.ku.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id B918A5623C0; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:52:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.225.107.63] (eagle.plab.ku.dk [130.225.107.63]) by plab.ku.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564B25623BE; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:52:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BA946E.4020500@plab.ku.dk> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:52:30 +0200 From: Anatoliy Dmytriyev User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Z References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ccd usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:52:33 -0000 Dan Z wrote: >Greetings, > >I'm planning a new install and my question regards the usage of ccd. >I have two disks of 30G and 20G. Is it possible to use ccd to create >a single /usr partition across these two disks? How might this be >done? Can it be done from the sysinstall menu off the boot disk or >will I need to do some toying around after initial install is >completed? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/raid.html -- Anatoliy Dmytriyev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 11:44:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A4E16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:44:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterpub1@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail.hostmansion.com (mail.hostmansion.com [69.42.139.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A104343D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:44:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterpub1@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [216.158.144.61] (mail.hostmansion.com [69.42.139.9]) by mail.hostmansion.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F1D11C028 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42BAA0A9.3090808@aboutsupport.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:44:41 +0300 From: Peter User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Simple ipfw problem :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:44:50 -0000 Hi, with my old linux box I forward all my LAN traffic coming from eth1 via eth0 with these simple 3 lines $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $INET_IFACE -j MASQUERADE $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $LAN_IFACE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Howevr I moved the box to FreeBSD 5.4 and also I have a new connection PPPoE. I enabled the IPDIVERRT, FIRREWALL etc in the kernel but I am unable to make traffic coming from rl0(internal interface) be forwaded via tun0( PPPoE interface). I have gateway_enable='yes', tried playing with ppp_nat etc... But no luck.... Is there a simple way to do that with ipfw ? Please help - I am little bit confused... Thanks in advance for your help... Kind regards, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 11:51:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013EF16A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:51:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net (astro.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2D243D1D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from SPECULUSHX1THE (81-178-187-76.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.187.76]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 36D9CE0002BD; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:51:42 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <011001c577e9$f2412c90$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> From: "cali" To: References: <42BA8F5D.5040504@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:51:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:51:47 -0000 >> Ah, but help on who's terms? Telling a newbie to RTFM for an answer that >> he asks which is in the manual IS help. >> > Yes, it is help. But how dumb does a person have to be if this is of real > help? If they were like ultra-newbie, they might not even know how to access the manual, but this is improbable. The idea is, the newbie gets repeatedly told "RTFM", so that eventually they get the idea that they must work it out for themselves because they develop this inner fear of asking for help and being ridiculed, ie they don't want to portray themselves as a "lamer". Usually it works. Sometimes there are people who will spout "RTFM" willy-nilly. I have witnessed on several occassions (not on this list) of people spouting "RTFM" when the manual in question did not contain the answer to the question asked at all, thereby backfiring on the "RTFM" spouter and resulting in self-ridicule. In such cases I believe that the spouter has some self-esteem problem and likes to newbie-bash, or just hazards a guess that the answer must be in the manual and automatically spouts "RTFM". So the question bearer should state whether they have read the manual first. Then if it turns out that the answer is in the manual, they shall be ridiculed, resulting in them hopefully being much more careful next time when they read the manual. Sometimes people ask simple questions, the answer is in the manual, but reading the manual to find the answer is akin to reading a book to discover how many pages it has. In such cases one feels that the information asked should be somewhere else, not buried in a big manual. It may be more useful in such cases to just answer the question so it ends up in the mailing archive and comes up when someone searches for it. cali From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 11:52:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B633016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:52:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7D443D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:52:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so17704wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:52:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s5Xjts0oqyWLcEY5yimSYbz52eYsAcTKQUm12dNhUDaVlkWAd2JAktjKEbMtjg35j8iycg0VWWYpQXHH5O4e0D4CMO4fX2tkj6zZ5RY2R+OdzmWCfPkERtdidxJcfxv2kCLlP8R2q7bRJf8+E8im9EQJFKci4pU+OR2tHZWow+I= Received: by 10.54.49.67 with SMTP id w67mr189326wrw; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:52:13 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Peter In-Reply-To: <42BAA0A9.3090808@aboutsupport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BAA0A9.3090808@aboutsupport.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Simple ipfw problem :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:52:14 -0000 On 6/23/05, Peter wrote: > Hi, >=20 > with my old linux box I forward all my LAN traffic coming from eth1 via > eth0 with these simple 3 lines >=20 > $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $INET_IFACE -j MASQUERADE > $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $LAN_IFACE -j ACCEPT > $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT >=20 > Howevr I moved the box to FreeBSD 5.4 and also I have a new connection > PPPoE. I enabled the IPDIVERRT, FIRREWALL etc in the kernel but I am > unable to make traffic coming from rl0(internal interface) be > forwaded via tun0( PPPoE interface). >=20 > I have gateway_enable=3D'yes', tried playing with ppp_nat etc... >=20 > But no luck.... >=20 > Is there a simple way to do that with ipfw ? Please help - I am little > bit confused... >=20 > Thanks in advance for your help... >=20 > Kind regards, >=20 > Peter Hi Peter, There is a nice chapter in FreeBSD handbook that describes how rules for ipfw might look like to do NAT: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.ht= ml. I had no problems setting my firewall using that chapter as a starting point. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 12:01:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CB416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FE143D5C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:01:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5NC17YU014954; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:01:08 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5NC16Ub017197; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:01:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5NC16hQ017196; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:01:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:01:05 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: cali Message-ID: <20050623120105.GA17140@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <42BA8F5D.5040504@pacific.net.sg> <011001c577e9$f2412c90$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <011001c577e9$f2412c90$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:01:11 -0000 On 2005-06-23 12:51, cali wrote: > > If they were like ultra-newbie, they might not even know how to access > the manual, but this is improbable. > > The idea is, the newbie gets repeatedly told "RTFM", so that > eventually they get the idea that they must work it out for themselves > because they develop this inner fear of asking for help and being > ridiculed, ie they don't want to portray themselves as a > "lamer". Usually it works. > > Sometimes there are people who will spout "RTFM" willy-nilly. I have > witnessed on several occassions (not on this list) of people spouting > "RTFM" when the manual in question did not contain the answer to the > question asked at all, thereby backfiring on the "RTFM" spouter and > resulting in self-ridicule. In such cases I believe that the spouter > has some self-esteem problem and likes to newbie-bash, or just hazards > a guess that the answer must be in the manual and automatically spouts > "RTFM". > > So the question bearer should state whether they have read the manual > first. Then if it turns out that the answer is in the manual, they > shall be ridiculed, resulting in them hopefully being much more > careful next time when they read the manual. > > Sometimes people ask simple questions, the answer is in the manual, > but reading the manual to find the answer is akin to reading a book to > discover how many pages it has. In such cases one feels that the > information asked should be somewhere else, not buried in a big > manual. It may be more useful in such cases to just answer the > question so it ends up in the mailing archive and comes up when > someone searches for it. I'm not watching the entire thread, so what I write below may seem a bit out of context. On the other hand, this particular post shows some of the few points I don't like about a stream of "RTFM" responses. You seem to overvalue "ridicule", IMHO. My intuition and experience with asking questions so far seems to be that it's usually a much better idea to give two-fold answers: - Actually point the user to a working solution (assuming there is one, of course). - Include relevant pointers to further documentation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 12:22:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1FA16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:22:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DBF43D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:22:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E04123978; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:20:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B466E12B0F7; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:20:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01289-06; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:20:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF7E12B033; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:20:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BAA90E.3060309@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:20:30 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter References: <42BAA0A9.3090808@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <42BAA0A9.3090808@aboutsupport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Simple ipfw problem :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:22:06 -0000 Peter wrote: > with my old linux box I forward all my LAN traffic coming from eth1 via > eth0 with these simple 3 lines > > $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $INET_IFACE -j MASQUERADE > $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $LAN_IFACE -j ACCEPT > $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > Howevr I moved the box to FreeBSD 5.4 and also I have a new connection > PPPoE. I enabled the IPDIVERRT, FIRREWALL etc in the kernel but I am > unable to make traffic coming from rl0(internal interface) be forwaded > via tun0( PPPoE interface). > > I have gateway_enable='yes', tried playing with ppp_nat etc... > > But no luck.... > > Is there a simple way to do that with ipfw ? Please help - I am little > bit confused... Actually you don't need ipfw or any other packet filter to set up a simple internet access point for clients in a LAN. This configuration should be enough: ---- ppp.conf ---- myisp: set device PPPoE: set log Phase IPCP CCP Warning Error Alert add! default HISADDR set authname set authkey ---- Note: is your external network interface, i.e. neither rl0 nor tun0. ---- rc.conf ---- gateway_enable="YES" # "sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1" at startup ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="ddial" ppp_profile="myisp" ppp_nat="YES" # alternatively "nat enable yes" in ppp.conf ---- I hope I didn't forget about something. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 12:28:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D3616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:28:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EE743D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:28:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 7421718001D3 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:28:56 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 23 Jun 2005 12:28:56 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6A81A4BEAD; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:28:56 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:28:55 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:28:55 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050623122856.6A81A4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Cc: Subject: FreeBSD's physical development structure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:28:56 -0000 Hello. Where do I find information on how the FreeBSD Project as a whole is structured? I mean, from the bottom to the top. How does the project work? Thanks. -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.bleed.no --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 12:49:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BC216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarc@thorin.po.cs.msu.su) Received: from thorin.po.cs.msu.su (thorin.po.cs.msu.su [158.250.16.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1612643D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:49:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarc@thorin.po.cs.msu.su) Received: from thorin.po.cs.msu.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thorin.po.cs.msu.su (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NCnhgv044888 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:49:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarc@thorin.po.cs.msu.su) Received: (from tarc@localhost) by thorin.po.cs.msu.su (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j5NCnh7B044887 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:49:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarc) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:49:43 +0400 From: Tarc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050623124942.GA44843@thorin.po.cs.msu.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/954/Wed Jun 22 23:15:13 2005 on thorin.po.cs.msu.su X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: PHP+ pThreads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tarc List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:49:46 -0000 I has setted WITH_THREADS="YES" in /etc/make.conf, compliled libxml2, and then tryed compile lang/php5. I got message from phps' conigure, that libxml2 is not usable(some function from pthread library not found. Does PHP-5 not suppirt pthreads library? -- Arseny Nasokin (aka Tarc) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 12:51:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6983F16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE03243D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:51:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5NCpMj7001992; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:51:22 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5NCpMIO017689; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:51:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5NCpLWQ017688; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:51:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:51:21 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-ID: <20050623125121.GA17604@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050623122856.6A81A4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050623122856.6A81A4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's physical development structure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:51:25 -0000 On 2005-06-23 07:28, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > Hello. > > Where do I find information on how the FreeBSD Project as a whole is > structured? I mean, from the bottom to the top. How does the project > work? A good starting point is here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/dev-model/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 19:26:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4871716A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:26:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay17-dav16.bay17.hotmail.com [64.4.43.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC1043D53 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:26:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:26:16 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 61.90.63.56 by BAY17-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:26:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [61.90.63.56] X-Originating-Email: [th_nuttapon@hotmail.com] X-Sender: th_nuttapon@hotmail.com From: "Nuttapon Tharachaikul" To: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:28:56 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 19:26:16.0022 (UTC) FILETIME=[42251760:01C57760] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:51:42 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:26:16 -0000 To Support, I'm interest on BSD-OS. Please advise me , I'm new to study Linux. 1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly.=20 But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for = what ?=20 - CHECKSUM.MD5 2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I = check this. Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can = handler about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram =3D 4 GB or = not. Have any reference information's source the explain the purpose and = how to handle of its. If I would like to order "SD 5.4 and Handbook, 3rd Edition, Users = Guide Bundle" from FreeBSD-Mall and ship to Thailand. 1. How much ship-cost to delivery this media ?=20 2. How long for delivery ? 3. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 12:54:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDD716A420 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:54:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D303543D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 13510917 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:50:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <42BA7B35.60407@pacific.net.sg> References: <42BA7B35.60407@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <23dc7c7330576a096b21a741b75fd8cd@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:54:19 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:54:26 -0000 On Jun 23, 2005, at 5:04 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> I have to take my neighbour with her Ph.D. in biology again. We can >>> assume she has proven not to be a plain idiot. She got some of >>> the book, >>> looked at them for some days and said 'why should I study IT before I >>> can use FreeBSD'. >>> >> Why should I study the drivers manual before getting a drivers >> license? > I do not know why people do it. I just learned driving in a deserted > place. So...you learn what the interface tells you and your intuition can figure out. Other people learn by reading and finding out how things work so they actually know what's going on. It's always entertaining to do something on the computer that the user never "stumbled across" before and is amazed that a task could be done that way. "How did you know that?" "I can read." Even more fun are the people that stumble their way through applications to the point where it looks like they're doing something productive and may even end up with an end product (barely), but have no clue what they did or how they did it and what they ended up with was so "wrong" that it can end up being a headache for the next person in line to deal with. For example, there was someone I knew who did a small publication with a popular (read: Microsoft) application that required a number of graphics be inserted along with text boxes and a full layout all arranged before the "document" was sent to the printer (a printer as in a contracted publisher). The end result was nearly 400 meg. I looked at it and saw that they had inserted a number of graphics that were in their original format...namely, huge. I'm talking about jpg files that were easily over a meg each. The person had inserted the graphic and just scaled it down using copy and paste from a graphics program, so the original full-res image was getting embedded into the document when, for the quality of the printing that was going to be made, it was definitely not needed. "Where are the graphics you used?" "I don't know...I just have them on the desktop and here and there..." So we spent some time trying to track those down, since the person didn't know how to organize their files so they had stuff spread out wherever "seemed to work". Some of the pictures were scanned in; where did they save them? Didn't know that either. Next I showed them the difference between the application just scaling the image as viewed and embedded, and actually taking the image in an image editor and resizing it, then saving the resulting image and using that in the publication document. One meg pictures resized closer to the actual image size that was used in the document now only took a hundred kilobytes or so. After going through this a few times (and making sure they saved the "new images" with a different filename to a specific directory so they could be referred back to), they set off on their own to continue the work. The document that was 400 meg, when I checked before leaving, was down to around 80 meg, and they were still working on the document when I left the building. Funny how sometimes knowing what you're doing by reading, working with it, trying to understand what's going on can beat raw "I don't really give a d*mn how it works as long as it seems to work" intuition sometimes. I guess that's why it's harder nowadays to throw a car's transmission from drive into reverse. Too many "intuitive learners" out there. We no longer wish to take responsibility for our actions, and we are being trained not to even think for ourselves. Curiosity is disappearing. Immediate results, even if they are wrong or done so inefficiently that the end product of our labor is crud, is preferred over actually learning how to do it right (or at least better than our random guesses). And before pointing out that people learn by randomly guessing at how to do things, there is a difference between what is motivating the object of my criticism and the artisan hacker, with hacker being a term applied to far more than just computers; the former is randomly guessing at things to just churn out crud and doesn't care how it is done, has no urge to know what they are doing, they simply care about getting from point A to point B. The latter pokes at some things, finds this is the result, then analyzes the result and wonders...is there a better way to do this? Then they proceed to retry it with a different approach to compare the results. The latter gets from point A to point B, then looks to see if they could do it in a better way. If they get stuck they read the manual. Or they read articles and postings about the topic at hand to see if someone else found a better way. The latter also seem to be a dying breed. As for the biologist neighbor not being an idiot and asking "why study IT to use it", well, if you're an IT person, are you qualified to be a biologist? Idiot or not...just because you're specialized in a particular field and "not an idiot" doesn't mean you're not clueless in other fields. Duh. Many people are not idiots in general but wouldn't know how to work an MRI, while for people trained to use it it's probably not all that difficult. It's more accurate to say your neighbor is most likely not an idiot in biology, and probably not in a few other fields of knowledge, but it doesn't necessarily mean she's not a technology idiot. >> That is correct. I don't allow someone to cut into my body until they >> have carefully explained how the whole procedure works and I >> understand >> it. I'm surprised you do. > There is another difference. I asked 'my' surgeon a simple question: > how many died in your hands doing this. The number wasn't zero but > within avarage. With other words, I just trust them. These are usually the people I hear talking on radio talk shows outraged that procedure XYZ went so wrong, or got duped into signing contract ABC when it's out of the norm for the industry...they just trusted the other person instead of looking up how it should be done. There was even a book at Barnes and Noble on how not to get scammed...I skimmed through it, wondering how in h*ll people could be so stupid. Now I realize that when we're trained not to think for ourselves but instead to trust the word of a self-proclaimed expert, we get a lot of easily tricked people in society. It doesn't take that much extra effort to consult with some other "experts" or online information to see what the consensus generally is on a topic most of the time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:07:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D289616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887D543D5C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 13512448 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:04:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <42BA8F5D.5040504@pacific.net.sg> References: <42BA8F5D.5040504@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6746e951d40d80da52354be33bac9507@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:07:47 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:07:52 -0000 On Jun 23, 2005, at 6:30 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>>> Why should I study the drivers manual before getting a >>>> drivers license? >>> >>> I do not know why people do it. I just learned driving in a >>> deserted place. >> I didn't say "learned driving" I said "get a license" You have >> to learn what's in the manual to pass the test to get the license. > I also never studied that one. With other words: there is more than > one way to get the knowledge. And so many ways never to learn the full potential of the tools you're using. >> It's not a question of trust, it's a question of do I understand what >> is going to happen. I find post-operative pain a lot easier to bear >> when I know why it's hurting. > I do not bother to understand as long they say it is all right. Ignorance is bliss. Letting others think for us gives away responsibility and power, but hey, it's less work than thinking. It is for this reason that sysadmins end up having to clamp down so hard on so many desktop systems in organizations. You don't want the responsibility of knowing why you shouldn't be doing this, so we'll simply not allow it anymore. Why can't I get this attachment? Because you like clicking before thinking. Why can't I change my color schemes around? Because you ask for help and it makes other people's eyes go wonky reading purple-on-pink text. Why can't I save documents here instead of there? Because we've warned people that area isn't backed up, you lost a file, and threw a fit when it couldn't be restored. Eventually you HAVE to turn the workstation into some kiosk-esque etch-a-sketch to keep them from screwing up their workstations with their random click-click-click. Living in ignorance, and worse, being told that it's right to live in a state of ignorance, brings us to the state we're in today in the US. Everything is designed for idiots, we expect to legislate morality and intelligence (if it's harmful, we should ban it, make it illegal, or put so many warning stickers on it that only someone with the IQ of butter could operate it). >> Ah, but help on who's terms? Telling a newbie to RTFM for an answer >> that >> he asks which is in the manual IS help. > Yes, it is help. But how dumb does a person have to be if this is of > real help? I don't know the population of Estonia but knowing where to find the information can be of more help than memorizing that (changing) fact. More often than not it's not a matter of a person being dumb as much as it is just being lazy. Why read for help when we can ask a short, pointed, and specific question to "experts" and have them answer just my specific floating in the forefront of my head question right now? It's of real help to try to get people to actually think on their own, and use the groups to clarify questions or share experiences or practical application information. But I'm sure we're all guilty of asking questions when our needs would have been met by just RTFM at some point. Or at least getting the pointer of where in TFM to look to cut down on the search time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:11:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5A516A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:11:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net (astro.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709AD43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:11:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from SPECULUSHX1THE (81-178-187-76.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.187.76]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 81C02E000155; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:11:06 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <012501c577f5$0a4516c0$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> From: "cali" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" References: <42BA8F5D.5040504@pacific.net.sg> <011001c577e9$f2412c90$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> <20050623120105.GA17140@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:11:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:11:10 -0000 > I'm not watching the entire thread, so what I write below may seem a bit > out of context. On the other hand, this particular post shows some of > the few points I don't like about a stream of "RTFM" responses. > > You seem to overvalue "ridicule", IMHO. I was trying to illustrate the ridicule case rather than explicitly advocate it, but perhaps I came across as being too strong of an advocate. I'm assuming that the ridicule approach does work sometimes, personally I think it worked for me to some extent. There is also the silent-ridicule approach, where it is not necessary to explicity ridicule the question bearer, under the assumption that the question bearer will eventually become self-aware of what is ridiculous, and hence self-ridicule and scutinise prior to posting. Clearly in some cases the ridicule approach can be an effective primer for this state of mind. The ridicule approach may not be the most effective primer. In many cases the ridicule will result in an increase in frustration and possibly a reduction in the users capacity to work the answer out for themselves. I think, that really only questions, whose answers cannot readily be found elsewhere, should be asked on this list. Part of the question-bearers education, whether that be from the list, or from other documentation, should result in the installation of the the solve-it-yourself mindset in their head. So that they are more tentative in their approach to asking questions, they should also become better problem solvers and FreeBSD users as a consequence of having to think for themselves. Part of the FreeBSD education should consist of informing the user how they can help themselves, and how they should seek help in the event that the self-help fails. If that education scheme was effectively employed, perhaps there wouldn't be as many "stupid" questions. But then again, perhaps this is the education, the self-realisation of this information without it explicitly being enumerated in some accesible form. Cali From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:13:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19EC16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:13:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernhard.fischer@fh-stpoelten.ac.at) Received: from mail.fh-stpoelten.ac.at (mail.fh-stpoelten.ac.at [195.202.148.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A49A43D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:13:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernhard.fischer@fh-stpoelten.ac.at) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fh-stpoelten.ac.at (Mailservices FH St. Poelten) with ESMTP id D165A16BDD; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:13:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.fh-stpoelten.ac.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07050-08; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lbfiser.fh-intern.ac.at (fwint.fh-stpoelten.ac.at [195.202.148.13]) by mail.fh-stpoelten.ac.at (Mailservices FH St. Poelten) with ESMTP id 84EDF16851; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:13:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernhard Fischer Organization: FH St. Poelten To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Nuttapon Tharachaikul" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:13:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart139946114.RDlAgoNIgX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506231513.46641.bernhard.fischer@fh-stpoelten.ac.at> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fh-stpoelten.ac.at Cc: Subject: Re: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:13:31 -0000 --nextPart139946114.RDlAgoNIgX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 22 June 2005 21:28, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote: > To Support, > I'm interest on BSD-OS. > Please advise me , I'm new to study Linux. > 1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly. > But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for wh= at > ? - CHECKSUM.MD5 Using the MD5 checksum you can verify if the file you downloaded ist exactl= y=20 the same as the file it should be, e.g. type md5sum=20 5.4-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso and compare the result. > 2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I che= ck > this. Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can handler > about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram =3D 4 GB or not. Have= any > reference information's source the explain the purpose and how to handle = of > its. Start reading this: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/relnotes.html bh --nextPart139946114.RDlAgoNIgX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCurWK3zuWPWIClGgRAmT0AJ9J0ivGZIamFvEX/nXagNJ/MNtVIACfXA9c b60jKzYHnsxz/ByiJjfTMCc= =Wdab -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart139946114.RDlAgoNIgX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:21:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE1316A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f4.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DCB43D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:21:55 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 200.108.27.97 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:21:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.108.27.97] X-Originating-Email: [stephanweaver@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stephanweaver@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "Stephan Weaver" To: hornetmadness@gmail.com, rickjpreston@gmail.com Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:21:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 13:21:55.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[86F6D270:01C577F6] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Share Printers, Printing Long. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:21:56 -0000 >From: Hornet >Reply-To: Hornet >To: Rick Preston >CC: Stephan Weaver , >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Share Printers, Printing Long. >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:12:36 -0400 > >On 6/22/05, Rick Preston wrote: > > On 6/22/05, Stephan Weaver wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have suscessfully installed my DSL MODEM Behind my FREEBSD Firewall. > > > Ever Since i have done this, i noticed that my windows users, when >trying to > > > print to shared printers, it takes very long for them to access the > > > printers. > > > I have an empty ipf.rules > > > and my ip nat rules looks like > > > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > > > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 > > > map vr0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > > > > > > > > > my dhcp.conf looks like > > > >cat /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf > > > option domain-name "pizzaboys.org"; > > > option domain-name-servers 192.3.132.1, 196.3.132.4; > > > > > > default-lease-time 86400; > > > max-lease-time 86400; > > > > > > authoritative; > > > > > > ddns-update-style none; > > > > > > log-facility local1; > > > > > > subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > > > range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.200; > > > option routers 192.168.0.2; > > > } > > > > > > > > > Any Assistance Please > > > > Are the shared printers in the 192.168.0/24 subnet? Are they > > connected to workstation that get their IP through DHCP? What are you > > using for workstation name resolution? What are you using for a port > > type on the windows machines, \\workstation\printer? > > is it DSL<-->firewall<--> workstations&printers? > > > > Looks to me like it is a name resolution thing. Your DNS servers are > > outside your subnet and probably doesn't know what is in your network. > >Yes, I would agree, if you are printing to shares, \\workstation\printer. >You may need to run a WINS server. or create an lmhosts file on each box. > > > > > Answer these questions and I can probably give you some ideas. > > > > Cheers, > > Rick > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > YES - - - - Are the shared printers in the 192.168.0/24 subnet? They Get the IP From the FreeBSD Machine -- - - Are they connected to workstation that get their IP through DHCP? _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:22:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4281016A44F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:22:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from host78.ipowerweb.com (host78.ipowerweb.com [66.235.200.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131AD43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:22:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from c-67-190-22-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.190.22.43] helo=electricblue) by host78.ipowerweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DlRei-0006nl-EA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:22:08 -0700 From: "Brian Duke" To: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:21:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcV39mYPpS59Tx/bTTqR9wh/zwjtcg== X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host78.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - box201.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20050623132210.131AD43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: help with a failed install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:22:10 -0000 The BTX loader fails right after the initial setup screen. I press any option except install prompt and it fails. =20 I have : Gateway ALR 9200 4 processor xeon 500's=20 1 gig ram=20 1 adaptec 3200S scsi card running modified raid 5 6 drives. 2 sets of striped 3 and mirrored. =20 I am having a difficult time finding anything that will load in this = box.=20 I prefer FreeBSD if possible. I've googled for a couple days and didn't = find much help. Can someone help me get past this first hurdle? =20 The OS I am loading is currently FreeBSD 5.3=20 I went to adaptec and found some information about FreeBSD 4.11 and = tried that version as well.=20 I can get Solaris 10 to load but it fails to find the raid as a valid = drive. Fedora Core 2 also boots and says it can't find a drive. The Raid boots up fine and builds with no faults.=20 I have an adaptec driver but I need to install enough to pkg_add the = file. =20 When I install a little 850 meg IDE drive and set that to master, Still = the btx loader dies. Here is what the final screen says: =20 /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=3D0x3fbfc data=3D0x1c04+0x112c syms=3D[0x4+0x72f0+0x4+0x97c7]=20 /=20 int=3D0000000d err=3D00000000 efl=3D00030002 eip=3D00005755 eax=3D00000001 ebx=3D00000008 ecx=3D000039ff edx=3D00000082=20 esi=3D0000579c edi=3D0000e873 edi=3D000003ba esp=3D0000037e=20 cs=3Df000 ds=3D0040 es=3Df000 fs=3D9dc0 gs=3Df000 ss=3D9c46=20 cs:eip=3D2e 0f 01 14 0f 20 c0 0c-01 0f 22 c0 eb 00 8e db 8e c3 8e e3 8e eb 0f 20-c0 24 fc 0f 22 c0 ea 78 ss:esp=3D11 64 08 00 01 00 00 00-00 f0 c0 9d 02 02 51 e8 05 00 c2 ee 05 00 00 f0-00 00 1a 7d c4 5e dd e6=20 BTX Halted =20 I think I copied all that correctly. =20 Has anyone got a quick idea why this fails right off? Does this mean I need to set the same flags as what Adi Pircalabu = suggested in the "help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thread? =20 " When the boot menu appears, try this: - escape to loader prompt - set hint.acpi.0.disabled=3D"1" - set hint.atkbd.0.flags=3D"0x9" - boot" =20 Would this help me? In this case I'm lost here. =20 =20 =20 Brian Duke Blue Incorporated. -=3D-_-=3D=3D--=3D_-=3D=83=20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:23:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1B516A432 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:23:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adm@mgul.ac.ru) Received: from ns2.msfu.ru (ns2.msfu.ru [193.233.62.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE7943D5C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:23:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adm@mgul.ac.ru) Received: from drweb by ns2.msfu.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1DlRfl-000JHE-AY for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:23:13 +0400 Received: from icserv.mgul.ac.ru ([193.233.62.4]) by ns2.msfu.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1DlRfl-000JH7-7X for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:23:13 +0400 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:23:12 +0400 From: Admin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: MSFU X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <153232124.20050623172312@mgul.ac.ru> To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Mainboard E7520 and FreeBSD 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Admin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:23:20 -0000 Dear Sir, We have the server with mainboard E7520 Master Series MS-9136 SSI Server Board with Dual Intel Xeon 2,8 MHz, two HDD SCSI 73Gbyte (without RAID controller) and one HDD IDE 120Gbyte. We have some problems to install the operating system FreeBSD 5.x. We trying install the operating system FreeBSD 5.x, but the installing program don't see the SCSI and IDE discs. There is an infinite search of parameters of the SCSI drive, but don't finish it, and don't begin the tuning of the kernel parameters. My be operating system FreeBSD 5.x installed on this system? Please, help us. Sincerely yours, Iwan I. Giesbrecht mailto:adm@mgul.ac.ru http://www.msfu.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:49:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2DB16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:49:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22DD43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:49:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so311552rna for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s8SGZUhr75PlAfNRpgTK499rbb7xh3NEB2y8oRbttTAF7fUdpZt9gh+QgbhXARAqTjtz2b8l3SXGCq8U9eGm9X3cW1drIcV8OcV8wDbi/2L08bbu+Wsqhdvdt2ZUygnvqpBwx3/WasuygrEPfTXQTLaFvLm2MvO3gBr0oMnjXsc= Received: by 10.38.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr849469rna; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.9.54 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:19:23 +0530 From: Sadashiv Kulthe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050623115232.CF08A16A420@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050623115232.CF08A16A420@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 100, Issue 15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sadashiv Kulthe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:49:24 -0000 Hello, I come to know that My system do not have "Syslog" daemon or command. Now I want to install port or package will give me syslog command. Please suggest me, how can I find specific port name, which will give me desired command on my system. Regards Sadashiv Kulthe RHCE, System Support Enginner, OSL, Vyom Labs Pvt Ltd sadashiv@vyomlabs.com 91 20 403 3655 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:53:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75F816A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:53:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9724943D55 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:53:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so312295rna for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:53:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LOq6/LCqZVRtOMbrXTBjLBHRTdxsTJ4WlZ246BSIfICgWzDnz5WeO3IGYg5L7vsIEgW1ZjlEP8K/N41Qmxkw7CybMXCYcRJOf4fQ30AE/5uyYREa8yZRkiFjuNFYcqCPYUV9LneUHMRtIXj/aPyGuavtoau29tMu2amYkUK22zc= Received: by 10.38.67.28 with SMTP id p28mr848531rna; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.9.54 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:23:03 +0530 From: Sadashiv Kulthe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: how to install desired port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sadashiv Kulthe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:53:05 -0000 Hello, I come to know that My system do not have "Syslog" daemon or command. Now I want to install port or package will give me syslog command. Please suggest me, how can I find specific port name, which will give me desired command on my system. How to solve dependancies? Regards Sadashiv Kulthe RHCE, System Support Enginner, OSL, Vyom Labs Pvt Ltd sadashiv@vyomlabs.com 91 20 403 3655 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 13:53:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF69016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:53:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from improvizationstation@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0D543D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:53:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from improvizationstation@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so8828nzo for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:53:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=N/6RP1CvFrdYzNxq9+LtVuWRkNu9/ScjB5jT7qjcOG0PKyaAUzq5MOPCKcPZ61sXme1i9Rnfp93bT0wy3I/Bk04HaQcdlj1OhCpxnDvOBpv7+NeOB4YxG4oHf3Xydh+1fOPjUSFRvEIMTEBSc1Yk3QlBSmlGSb5SDyekJa09TM4= Received: by 10.36.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr1289338nzc; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.48.3 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3a5db5ce05062306536c802319@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:53:33 -0400 From: Thomas Hill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD 5.4 / linux-opera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thomas Hill List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:53:34 -0000 Greetings, I'm running FreeBSD 5.4 on a Dell Latitude C-series (CPx) with a custom kernel config, updated ports collection, and other modifications... Everything (except one thing) thus far works great. However, I was previously using the web browser Opera under Linux emulation because it supports lots of the browser plugins.... But now when installing linux-opera from the ports collection it complains about libX11.so.6, which I know is a common X11 library. Oh yes, and it doesn't run at all now. Just wondering, is anyone using linux-opera 8.02 on FreeBSD 5.4 and experiencing the same problem. All the best, Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:00:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4F016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:00:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (ns.bitdefender.com [217.156.83.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46EB43D58 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:00:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: (qmail 17568 invoked by uid 1010); 23 Jun 2005 16:52:43 +0300 Received: from apircalabu.dsd.ro (10.10.15.22) by mail.bitdefender.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 16:52:43 +0300 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:01:27 +0300 From: Adi Pircalabu To: Thomas Hill Message-ID: <20050623170127.71b85f1f@apircalabu.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: <3a5db5ce05062306536c802319@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a5db5ce05062306536c802319@mail.gmail.com> Organization: BitDefender X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: 1.1.4 049000040111AAAAAAE X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender Qmail 1.6.2 on mail.bitdefender.com X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 / linux-opera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:00:13 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:53:33 -0400 Thomas Hill wrote: > However, I was previously using the web browser Opera under Linux > emulation because it supports lots of the browser plugins.... But now > when installing linux-opera from the ports collection it complains > about libX11.so.6, which I know is a common X11 library. Oh yes, and > it doesn't run at all now. Hi, do you have x11/linux-XFree86-libs port installed? What is its version? -- Adi Pircalabu (PGP Key ID 0x04329F5E) -- This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender. For more information please visit http://www.bitdefender.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:01:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEE616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:01:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4F343D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:01:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so313915rna for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Mchh81a8EjH8mVxvgTkkdQieXXXFcDgvWY/wOMrL2ys74Tyzo9Cn9QfHWaEncGjJgSDDfp9sQQYaxYRChm2CA//9k35uvIqAS1ooEdnggU0MkkD2y7Ue/cdZGJn79DLAi7nuY1qIfZ+W2Ps55LiahVgyIp7pfCWfZQGSEyNu3uc= Received: by 10.38.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr854995rna; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.9.54 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:31:57 +0530 From: Sadashiv Kulthe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: how to resolve depedencies and install desired package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sadashiv Kulthe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:01:58 -0000 Hello, When I try to install yahoo messenger on my system, it gives following mess= ages. -bash-2.05b# pkg_add fbsd4.ymessenger.tgz pkg_add: could not find package gtk-1.2.3 ! pkg_add: could not find package glib-1.2.3 ! pkg_add: could not find package XFree86-3.3.6 ! pkg_add: could not find package gdk-pixbuf-0.8.0 ! pkg_add: could not find package gettext-0.11.1_1 ! Please suggest, how to resolve depedencies and install desired package? Regards Sadashiv Kulthe System Support Enginner, OSL, Vyom Labs Pvt Ltd sadashiv@vyomlabs.com 91 20 403 3655 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:03:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F86A16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:03:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2F643D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:03:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050623140340.EZFH29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:03:40 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Sadashiv Kulthe" , Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:03:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: how to install desired port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:03:41 -0000 Syslog is built into the base release of FreeBSD. Do [man syslog} on command line for details -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sadashiv Kulthe Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:53 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to install desired port Hello, I come to know that My system do not have "Syslog" daemon or command. Now I want to install port or package will give me syslog command. Please suggest me, how can I find specific port name, which will give me desired command on my system. How to solve dependancies? Regards Sadashiv Kulthe RHCE, System Support Enginner, OSL, Vyom Labs Pvt Ltd sadashiv@vyomlabs.com 91 20 403 3655 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:07:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B515716A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:07:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36ED843D49; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:07:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from lothlorien.nagual.st (lothlorien.nagual.st [192.168.11.1]) by nagual.st with esmtp; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:07:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:07:49 +0200 From: dick hoogendijk To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050623160749.3d7632df.dick@nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <200506231453.22578.milan@netlabplus.sk> References: <20050623142614.0ae96d35.dick@nagual.st> <200506231453.22578.milan@netlabplus.sk> Organization: nagual.st X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: courier mailer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:07:52 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:53:21 +0200 Milan Obuch wrote: > On Thursday 23 June 2005 14:26, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > Hello > > > > Can someone please tell me when it will be possible again to install > > courier to replace sendmail? > > > > What will happen if I change the makefile in mail/courier and remove > > the BROKEN statement. Will it compile and install then? What file > > permissions exactly will be changed? > > > > And why does it take _so_ long to have courier back. Will it ever be > > back? > > Yes, it took long already. I was upset too and prepared my > personal/unofficial 0.50.0 port. It need some more polishing, but it > works reasonably well for me and (hopefully) for others too. Please > try it. You can find it at http://porst.dino.sk. I will try to find > some more time to get this PR'ed and hopefully commited, your > feedback in this issue is really welcome. Regards, > Milan OK, not quite the answer to my question. I really would like an official port, but hey, it's no production server, so I guess.. I take it you unpack in /usr/ports/mail and then do a "portinstall mail/courier-0.50.0" ? Install authlib first (I know ;-) Are the other options like the old port? And what is "reasonably well" And why is this very good mailer NOT supported on FreeBSD? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:08:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C8116A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:08:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.net) Received: from mx1.exponential-e.net (ixbl-sun-02.exponential-e.net [62.244.177.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDAF43D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:08:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.net) Received: from 62-244-182-25.cust.exponential-e.net ([62.244.182.25]:34756 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx1.exponential-e.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DlSNL-00012L-J1; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:08:15 +0000 Message-ID: <42BAC250.5010102@exponential-e.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:08:16 +0100 From: Jim Mozley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <20050622204053.0A92543D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050622204053.0A92543D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0525-3, 23/06/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: support for ICH6R controller and Broadcom ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:08:18 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > > > I have a box with the same chipset. I have 2 160GB SATA drives in a > RAID1 config, which FBSD 5.4 sees 2 disks, as opposed to the single RAID > subsystem. I install on one of the disks. > > However, when I reboot the box, I get a flashing cursor in the top left > corner of the screen as if it's going to boot, but it stays there. No > errors nothing. > > I'll be trying this out again tomorrow, so I'll let you know if I find > anything. Thanks, it would be appreciated. Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:10:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB61416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:10:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675DD43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:10:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.157.226]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5NEAl8c057796; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:10:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <42BAC2AE.4010501@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:09:50 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sadashiv Kulthe References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install desired port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:10:50 -0000 Sadashiv Kulthe wrote: >Hello, > >I come to know that My system do not have "Syslog" daemon or command. >Now I want to install port or package will give me syslog command. > >Please suggest me, how can I find specific port name, which will give >me desired command on my system. How to solve dependancies? > >Regards >Sadashiv Kulthe >RHCE, System Support Enginner, >OSL, Vyom Labs Pvt Ltd >sadashiv@vyomlabs.com >91 20 403 3655 > > No syslog daemon? [513] Thu 23.Jun.2005 9:08:00 [kadmin@archangel][~] whereis syslogd syslogd: /usr/sbin/syslogd /usr/share/man/man8/syslogd.8.gz /usr/src/usr.sbin/syslogd Can't answer re: "syslog" command ... I assume it's a Linuxism? What's it supposed to do? Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:14:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E21D16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:14:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lawrence.petrykanyn@sympatico.ca) Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CFD43D55 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:14:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lawrence.petrykanyn@sympatico.ca) Received: from elmo ([70.48.100.162]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with SMTP id <20050623141400.FTQS25800.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@elmo> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:14:00 -0400 From: "Lawrence Petrykanyn" To: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:14:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Newbie - Trouble Installing Gnome2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:14:06 -0000 Hi, In order to have a clean start, I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from scratch (disc1, only). I choose the installation option "All system sources, binaries and and X Window System". Everything went well. The first thing I did after the system rebooted was a portupgrade -a. Then I did a cvsup with the following supfile... *default tag=. *default host=cvsup10.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/var/db *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all ports-all ..as per instructions in Appendix A of the Handbook. That went well. Then I ran "cvs mysupfile". It ran for quite a while, but gave no error messages, so I guess it went well. Then I did "Xorg -configure" and everything worked okay and got into xterm. Next I went to /usr/ports/x11/gnome2 and did "make install clean". This ran for hours, occasionally prompting me for preferences, then it stopped. Here is what it said... Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp-FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ghostscript/. fetch: ghostscripts-fonts-std-8.11.tar.gz: local modification does not match remote => Couldn't find it - please try to retrieve this => port manually in /usr/ports/distfiles/ghostscript and try again. ***Error Code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/gsfonts ***Error Code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gnu ***Error Code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ggv ***Error Code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/gnome2 ...so, what happened? I am a newbie and don't understand what "porting manually" to retrieve this file means. Should I just start from scratch again and reinstall? I don't have any files on my disk that I have to back up. And if/when I reinstall, is it sufficient to just select the "Average User" distribution set and just add additional files, as I need them? Any advice, comments and suggestions would be very appreciated at this time. Thanks in advance, Lawrence From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:32:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEE016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:32:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C94443D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:32:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050623143237.GSOF29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:32:37 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Sadashiv Kulthe" , Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:32:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: how to resolve depedencies and install desired package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:32:38 -0000 You used the wrong format of the pkg_add command. The way you used it manes you have all the needed packages on your system already. User pkg_add -r ymesssenger to get the package and all the dependant packages from the internet server and have them auto installed for you. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sadashiv Kulthe Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:02 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to resolve depedencies and install desired package? Hello, When I try to install yahoo messenger on my system, it gives following messages. -bash-2.05b# pkg_add fbsd4.ymessenger.tgz pkg_add: could not find package gtk-1.2.3 ! pkg_add: could not find package glib-1.2.3 ! pkg_add: could not find package XFree86-3.3.6 ! pkg_add: could not find package gdk-pixbuf-0.8.0 ! pkg_add: could not find package gettext-0.11.1_1 ! Please suggest, how to resolve depedencies and install desired package? Regards Sadashiv Kulthe System Support Enginner, OSL, Vyom Labs Pvt Ltd sadashiv@vyomlabs.com 91 20 403 3655 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:34:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83DA16A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:34:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aanton@spintech.ro) Received: from smtpx.spintech.ro (smtpx.spintech.ro [81.180.92.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9186343D55; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:34:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aanton@spintech.ro) Received: from smtpx.spintech.ro (antivirus [15.0.0.1]) by smtpx.spintech.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id B410B3A49D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (beastie [10.0.0.2]) by smtpx.spintech.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B7E3A491; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <42BAC885.3030901@spintech.ro> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:34:45 +0300 From: Alin-Adrian Anton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041229) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben References: <42B9E62C.7000204@spintech.ro> <42BA0DE9.4040809@thegeekzone.com> In-Reply-To: <42BA0DE9.4040809@thegeekzone.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Open-Source: www.opensource.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw2 filtering on bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:34:37 -0000 Ben wrote: > I'm sorry, I can't send this to the list because my messages to the list > bounce because reverse DNS isn't set up. > No worries, thanks a lot for answering. > This is funny, I just set this up for the first time yesterday except I > set everything up to have no IP addresses so that the firewall would be > invisible to anyone. I think I see what is wrong with your setup... > > You've got to change net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 to > net.link.ether.bridge.ipfw=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf. The handbook > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bridging.html) > says that net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 was updated in 5.2-RELEASE. > net.link.ether.bridge.enable=1 net.link.ether.bridge.config=fxp0,fxp1 net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge.ipfw=1 net.link.ether.bridge.ipfw: 1 -> 1 # # ipfw add deny icmp from any to any 00100 deny icmp from any to any # # ipfw show 00100 0 0 deny icmp from any to any 65535 931748 651891769 allow ip from any to any # PING EXT_IP_BEHIND_BRIDGE: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from EXT_IP_BEHIND_BRIDGE: icmp_seq=0 ttl=233 time=74.399 ms 64 bytes from EXT_IP_BEHIND_BRIDGE: icmp_seq=1 ttl=233 time=106.194 ms Seems not to be working :( Yours, -- Alin-Adrian Anton GPG keyID 0x183087BA (B129 E8F4 7B34 15A9 0785 2F7C 5823 ABA0 1830 87BA) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0x183087BA "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." - Voltaire From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:42:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CBD16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:42:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay20-f27.bay20.hotmail.com [64.4.54.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0282F43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:42:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephanweaver@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:42:27 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 200.108.27.97 by by20fd.bay20.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:42:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.108.27.97] X-Originating-Email: [stephanweaver@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stephanweaver@hotmail.com From: "Stephan Weaver" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:42:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 14:42:27.0958 (UTC) FILETIME=[C70A7960:01C57801] Subject: IPFILTER 'again' ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:42:28 -0000 Hello, I notice this in my /var/log/ipfilter.log. 23/06/2005 10:36:06.691347 vr0 @0:29 b 196.3.132.4,53 -> 192.168.1.1,61827 PR udp len 20 66 IN 23/06/2005 10:36:07.652341 vr0 @0:29 b 196.3.132.4,53 -> 192.168.1.1,61828 PR udp len 20 70 IN Which should never occur. Since My Rules Look like. ipf.rules -- block in all block out all pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all pass in quick on vr1 all pass out quick on vr1 all pass out quick on vr0 from any to any keep state pass in quick on vr0 proto tcp from 196.3.132.1 to any port = 53 keep state pass in quick on vr0 proto udp from 196.3.132.1 to any port = 53 keep state pass in quick on vr0 proto tcp from 196.3.132.4 to any port = 53 keep state pass in quick on vr0 proto udp from 196.3.132.4 to any port = 53 keep state # Block all inbound traffic from non-routable or reserved address spaces block in log quick on vr0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in log quick on vr0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in log quick on vr0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any #RFC 1918 private IP block in log quick on vr0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any #loopback block in log quick on vr0 from 0.0.0.0/8 to any #loopback block in log quick on vr0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any #DHCP auto-config block in log quick on vr0 from 192.0.2.0/24 to any #reserved for doc's block in log quick on vr0 from 204.152.64.0/23 to any #Sun cluster interconnect block in log quick on vr0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any #Class D & E multicast # Block frags block in quick on vr0 all with frags # Block short tcp packets block in quick on vr0 proto tcp all with short # Block source routed packets block in quick on vr0 all with opt lsrr block in quick on vr0 all with opt ssrr # Block nmap OS fingerprint attempts # Log first occurrence of these so I can get their IP address block in log first quick on vr0 proto tcp all flags FUP block in log first quick on vr0 proto tcp all flags SF/SFRA block in log first quick on vr0 proto tcp all flags /SFRA block in log first quick on vr0 proto tcp all flags F/SFRA block in log first quick on vr0 proto tcp all flags U/SFRAU block in log first quick on vr0 proto tcp all flags P # Block anything with special options block in quick on vr0 all with ipopts # Block public pings block in log quick on vr0 proto icmp all icmp-type 8 # Block and log only first occurrence of all remaining traffic # coming into the firewall. The logging of only the first # occurrence stops a .denial of service. attack targeted # at filling up your log file space. # This rule enforces the block all by default logic. block in log first quick on vr0 all Thanks, Stephan Weaver stephanweaver@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:46:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB84A16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:46:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE21C43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:46:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E272ACADC54 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:45:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: Fa3hxFrx4nhzz2UEc99Lblq6bcZuxG0asit1E4p3kgmi 1119537958 Received: from gumby.localdomain (dsl-80-41-69-240.access.as9105.com [80.41.69.240]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2473570147 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:45:57 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:45:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506231545.53892.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Newbie - Trouble Installing Gnome2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:46:08 -0000 On Thursday 23 June 2005 03:14, Lawrence Petrykanyn wrote: >... > Next I went to /usr/ports/x11/gnome2 and did "make install > clean". This ran for hours, occasionally prompting me for preferences, > then it stopped. Here is what it said... > > Attempting to fetch from > ftp://ftp-FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ghostscript/. > fetch: ghostscripts-fonts-std-8.11.tar.gz: local modification > does not match remote I'm assuming it actually said: " local modification *time* does not match remote" If that's correct then try adding: FETCH_CMD= fetch -FARr to /etc/make.conf. By default fetch checks that a partially complete file matches the datestamp of the remote file, this. This is supposed to stop you continue downloading a file that has been modified, but in practice I find this check overwhelmingly produces false-positives. The integrity of the file is decided by md5 anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 14:54:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD0E16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:54:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spammesilly@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97DA43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:54:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spammesilly@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so899792wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:54:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dTUQklKRV+hGRuc2hNa8WRdnHgjrhIWVYwpDnwruRtLDUcOC+4H+YQZ8hnPIzMzc0+AEfzQCrqnFD1S+oS+1Dr0xccGAWEAdJGV7yn1TelpSRuvA0/12Lj2UX/jOZaDY/zeRY8JRZamd8OppZOMFdtTlrPpNbS81cgdwh18u4BY= Received: by 10.54.143.4 with SMTP id q4mr1200127wrd; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.96.12 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:54:13 -0400 From: Daniel Gonzalez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re Custom kernel config questions linux user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gonzalez List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:54:16 -0000 Hello, I was wondering if anyone could provide me an answer to the following questions. Please keep in mind that by default I learned Unix on a Linux system, so... please no flames :(. I was a Slackware devotee for about 4 years and a SuSe user for 2 before moving to FreeBSD. Nothing wrong with cutting your teeth on a Linux system to get comfortable with a "Unix-like" OS. One thing I found out by switching to FreeBSD is the documentation (online/print) is far superior to= =20 what's out there for Linux. 1) Is there any sort of configuration interface (ncurses, X, etc), or am I 'stuck' with 'manually configuring' a textfile? That depends on what you want to configure. I prefer using editors on the= =20 files as I seem to better understand the programs I'm configuring. Check ports/package= s=20 to see if there are GUIs. Chances are that there will be some sort of GUIs for configuring most of a= =20 FreeBSD system. Check out SWAT or=20 I think there may be something called Webmin? 2) Is there a complete list of features which can be enabled for the kernel, other what was in the GENERIC configuration file? The FreeBSD handbook section on rebuilding kernels, I believe refers you to= =20 the "NOTES" section under the /usr/src directory which will list options to be added to the kernel for extra performance=20 tweaks for your specific system/processor. 3) What is needed for the FreeBSD kernel and what modules need to be compiled in order to use IDE CD-burning. In linux previous to kernel version 2.6.8 I know that SCSI was required, but now they are doing proper IDE emulation. Your best bet is to check out this link:=20 http://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Unix/FreeBSD-Burning.php It's the same link I used to get info for IDE CD-burning on FreeBSD (5.4RC2= ).=20 I also used the online FreeBSD Handbook which has been an outstanding source of information on rebuilding kernels (among many= =20 other things). Thanks, I'll most likely have more questions later. -Garrett No problem with the questions. I gauge my knowledge of a subject by how wel= l=20 I can explain it to someone else --=20 Dan Gonzalez spammesilly at gmail dot com IM: signulth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 15:10:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE2816A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:10:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net (astro.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E1B43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:10:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from SPECULUSHX1THE (81-178-187-76.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.187.76]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A10FCE000212 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:10:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <018a01c57805$bf08ed10$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> From: "cali" To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:10:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: Newbie - Trouble Installing Gnome2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:10:46 -0000 > Attempting to fetch from > ftp://ftp-FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ghostscript/. > fetch: ghostscripts-fonts-std-8.11.tar.gz: local modification > does not match remote > => Couldn't find it - please try to retrieve this > => port manually in /usr/ports/distfiles/ghostscript and try > again. > ...so, what happened? I did a search on google for the line "local modification does not match remote", one of the responses was from the freebsd-questions mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/030315.html the end result was >On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 11:28, Michael A. Alestock wrote: >> fetch: cvsup-snap-16.1h.tar.gz: local modification time does not match >> remote >Either >a) Remove file from /usr/ports/distfiles and try again >or >b) Fetch file manually into /usr/ports/distfiles >... in addition to (if checksum announced in ports is wrong, which >sometimes happen) possibly either a) making new checksum with `make >makesum` or b) remove distinfo file. >HTH So the idea is that the remote file failed to match some security criteria so it was not downloaded, the resolution is explained correctly by the response from HTH repeated above for your convenience. Google also returned: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-June/089503.html So in the future, I suggest, looking on the mailing list archive first because you might find the answer to your question there. Cali From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 15:15:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA8216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:15:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BFC43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:15:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so328680rna for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:15:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AVTGfmPDE+nLyAGbuhnh6x3oVVdBkCMhEsOn5u91oHILXMInGp5fDpqOCEcJIi5ptthOKnNELOLY/Kow3jT5+swelgNGcwYu1LuE2veNzATDKb9MT/BO9DuazcJPJG1WujU3VRAu0Ozhh1QYssVUOYHyQRysYfyIVTZmczFRQWU= Received: by 10.38.67.67 with SMTP id p67mr879738rna; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.9.54 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:45:28 +0530 From: Sadashiv Kulthe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: sysctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sadashiv Kulthe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:15:29 -0000 Hello, Sorry! I say syslog is not there but it is there with problems !!! -bash-2.05b# /usr/sbin/syslogd syslogd: child pid 39793 exited with return code 1 My System do not have "Sysctl" .. how can I bring sysctl to my system. Sadashiv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 15:22:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0716B16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (dev.eagle.ca [209.167.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F9C43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:22:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 40341 invoked by uid 1002); 23 Jun 2005 15:22:12 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamscan: 0.73. spamassassin: 2.64. 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Processed in 1.451384 secs); 23 Jun 2005 15:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fuze) (209.167.16.15) by dev.eagle.ca with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 15:22:10 -0000 From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "'cali'" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:24:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 thread-index: AcV39Q5EGRKd3F2zRLuIHywV3L1FGAAD7WHA In-Reply-To: <012501c577f5$0a4516c0$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <111954013167540335@pearl.ibctech.ca> Message-Id: <20050623152214.B6F9C43D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:22:17 -0000 > I think, that really only questions, whose answers cannot > readily be found elsewhere, should be asked on this list. I disagree. For those working in a 24x7 uptime situation and a critical problem arises, we all now that time is of the essence. I have no problem someone asking a reasonably descriptive question even if it is somewhat readily available on the 'Net if they can use that 10 minutes of search time to conduct other emergency procedures while waiting an answer from the list. For the most part, yes, only non-readily available answers should be posted to the list, but there are circumstances where the list can provide, as someone else suggested a quick RTFM, here is the link to what you are looking for. A new user may take this as offensive, but it only really takes reading a handful of threads in this FBSD-q list for anyone to realize that people do really get honest, feasable, accurate and friendly help here. > Part of the FreeBSD education should consist of informing the > user how they can help themselves, and how they should seek > help in the event that the self-help fails. If that education > scheme was effectively employed, perhaps there wouldn't be as > many "stupid" questions. Yes, but how does one inform the user of the self-help approach. Obviously putting that education in the handbook would be moot as they likely haven't read the handbook anyway ;) Steve > > Cali > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 15:25:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BF216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:25:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1878C43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:25:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j5NFPgx3027813; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:25:43 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5NFPgrX019061; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:25:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5NFPfWK019060; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:25:41 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:25:41 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sadashiv Kulthe Message-ID: <20050623152541.GA18967@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:25:46 -0000 On 2005-06-23 20:45, Sadashiv Kulthe wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry! I say syslog is not there but it is there with problems !!! > > -bash-2.05b# /usr/sbin/syslogd > syslogd: child pid 39793 exited with return code 1 > > My System do not have "Sysctl" .. how can I bring sysctl to my system. sysctl is a very different beast from syslogd. It seems that you're confusing the two. What is the *REAL* problem you're trying to solve? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 15:33:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB3E16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:33:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BA343D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:33:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050623153357.KLCC29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:33:57 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Sadashiv Kulthe" , Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:33:56 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: RE: sysctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:33:58 -0000 Please do your home work and read the man sysctl page before just posting messages. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sadashiv Kulthe Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:15 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sysctl Hello, Sorry! I say syslog is not there but it is there with problems !!! -bash-2.05b# /usr/sbin/syslogd syslogd: child pid 39793 exited with return code 1 My System do not have "Sysctl" .. how can I bring sysctl to my system. Sadashiv _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 15:50:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C449316A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from csa.cs.okstate.edu (a.cs.okstate.edu [139.78.113.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AFD43D55 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: by csa.cs.okstate.edu (Postfix, from userid 601) id CC6F0A0633; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:50:15 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 164.58.79.196 (auth. user lreid@a.cs.okstate.edu) by cs.okstate.edu with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:50:15 -0600 X-IlohaMail-Blah: lreid@a.cs.okstate.edu X-IlohaMail-Method: mail() [mem] X-IlohaMail-Dummy: moo X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.12 (On: cs.okstate.edu) From: "Reid Linnemann" Bounce-To: "Reid Linnemann" Errors-To: "Reid Linnemann" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20050623155015.CC6F0A0633@csa.cs.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:50:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: netgraph startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:50:16 -0000 I'm using netgraph to bridge a few interfaces on a -CURRENT system. I've used the example bridge script /usr/share/examples/netgraph/ether.bridge, and it works perfectly after setting the interface vars. However, there are no rc.d hooks (that I am aware of) that will kick off netgraph scripts on system boot, forcing me to manually run the netgraph script at each reboot. I'm sure I could hack the script to give it rcorder keywords and handlers for rcng arguments, but that seems to be an overworked solution. I'm curious, how have other netgraph users have solved this problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 15:56:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B10416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from web1.nidhog.com (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CBA43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:56:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from blacksea.nedyah.org (semcheski.squirrelhill.nidhog.net [66.207.143.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by web1.nidhog.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5NFuI0f010752 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:56:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) From: "Michael H. Semcheski" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:47:14 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050623152214.B6F9C43D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050623152214.B6F9C43D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506231147.14763.lists@immuneit.com> X-Greylist: Recipient e-mail whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:56:27 -0000 On Thursday 23 June 2005 11:24 am, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > I think, that really only questions, whose answers cannot > > readily be found elsewhere, should be asked on this list. > For the most part, yes, only non-readily available answers should be > posted to the list, but there are circumstances where the list can > provide, as someone else suggested a quick RTFM, here is the link to > what you are looking for. I think the answers that someone who has been using FreeBSD for 6 days or 6 weeks can find are going to be a small subset of the set of answers found by someone who has been using FreeBSD for 6 years. Often on mailing lists, I've been pointed in the ride direction. If you say something as simple as "check out man 8 sysctl", thats teaching someone to fish. We aren't all born super-geniuses, but with a little help most of us can get on our way. The other thing is if you do a google search for an error message you're having, you're likely to find archives of mailing lists. Remember that when you answer a question. This may come back and help someone out in a few years. > > Part of the FreeBSD education should consist of informing the > > user how they can help themselves, and how they should seek > > help in the event that the self-help fails. If that education > > scheme was effectively employed, perhaps there wouldn't be as > > many "stupid" questions. > Yes, but how does one inform the user of the self-help approach. > Obviously putting that education in the handbook would be moot as they > likely haven't read the handbook anyway ;) Nobody starts out wanting to become an expert, they just want to accomplish a task. Eventually, they may actually become an expert, or have the self-help skills to solve problems on their own. With trial and error, you eventually find that asking for help is not the quickest or most reliable way to solve a problem in every case. But, thats a necessary lesson to learn nonetheless. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 16:01:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8024E16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:01:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD2543D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:01:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so338788rna for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=BIzsiL7yVlZzU3f4gyC/CrEo0A6bzhrYGB1owBMs/bdVnDGPRSkxL3y5ggmcMXUu9HIHibZQoxYBllIyhCPH3pT8rVHAv6yjN4Bw72EzHfrBWinKkr0EatZo2Yljn7uHvP/GLa6njV7bu23d11G0Dr+Cp3mjx6fdyPCSh22EPTk= Received: by 10.38.24.51 with SMTP id 51mr903215rnx; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.93.163.152? ([59.93.163.152]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 75sm1374428rnb.2005.06.23.09.01.53; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42BADCD4.2030600@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:31:24 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: Indian Institute of Information Technology User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Gonzalez References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030200000705070607030100" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re Custom kernel config questions linux user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:01:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030200000705070607030100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 6/23/2005 20:24, Daniel Gonzalez wrote: >Hello, >I was wondering if anyone could provide me an answer to the >following questions. Please keep in mind that by default I learned Unix >on a Linux system, so... please no flames :(. > > Flames??!! What for? Buddy we have better work to do than say "My OS superior than yours":-) Both Linux and *BSD are great OS. > 1) Is there any sort of configuration interface (ncurses, X, etc), >or am I 'stuck' with 'manually configuring' a textfile? > > Configuration for what? Some applications do have some kind of GUI (ncurses maybe) interface. But text files work everywhere. Also more convenient when you are on a low bandwidth remote terminal. >FreeBSD system. Check out SWAT or >I think there may be something called Webmin? > > Yeh Webmin is a tool. But you need lots of things to work right (for example, apache, a few libraries) to ensure that you can even start up webmin. > 2) Is there a complete list of features which can be enabled for the >kernel, other what was in the GENERIC configuration file? > > Of course. Refer to the NOTES (LINT in 4.* family). Thanks S. --------------030200000705070607030100-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 16:03:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5AE16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:03:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4281343D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:03:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B9AB751259; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:03:31 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Chris Knipe Message-ID: <20050623160331.GA20353@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <084701c577df$cd256700$0b02a8c0@MEGADROID> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <084701c577df$cd256700$0b02a8c0@MEGADROID> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:03:34 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:39:11PM +0200, Chris Knipe wrote: > Lo all, >=20 > Is there anywhere that I can see what has changed from FreeBSD 4.11 to=20 > FreeBSD 5.x, in regards to libc ? The CVS logs are public, e.g. http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/, but there are literally thousands of changes. Kris --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCut1TWry0BWjoQKURAnqpAJ4wcl3IXFNwRHOngAU6WzxzI1lPoACfXYhb hr942mc4/xgFDRuPtc4wR4A= =IW4T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 16:05:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE6816A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:05:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9439543D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:05:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.157.226]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5NG54Rd058390; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:05:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <42BADD75.7070103@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:04:05 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sadashiv Kulthe References: <42BAC2AE.4010501@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install desired port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:05:07 -0000 Hello Sadashiv, Please leave the "questions@freebsd.org" cc: in your replies. Sadashiv Kulthe wrote: >Hello, > >Sorry! I say syslog is not there but it is there with problems !!! > >-bash-2.05b# /usr/sbin/syslogd >syslogd: child pid 39793 exited with return code 1 > >"Sysctl" daemon is not there .. how can I bring sysctl to my system. > >Sadashiv > > [520] Thu 23.Jun.2005 11:00:48 [kadmin@archangel][~] # whereis sysctl sysctl: /sbin/sysctl /usr/share/man/man8/sysctl.8.gz /usr/src/sbin/sysctl [521] Thu 23.Jun.2005 11:00:56 [kadmin@archangel][~] # apropos sysctl blackhole(4) - a sysctl(8) MIB for manipulating behaviour in respect of refused TCP or UDP connection attempts syncache(4), syncookies(4) - sysctl(8) MIBs for controlling TCP SYN caching sysctl(3), sysctlbyname(3), sysctlnametomib(3) - get or set system information sysctl(8) - get or set kernel state sysctl.conf(5) - kernel state defaults sysctl_add_oid(9), sysctl_move_oid(9), sysctl_remove_oid(9) - runtime sysctl tre e manipulation sysctl_ctx_init(9), sysctl_ctx_free(9), sysctl_ctx_entry_add(9), sysctl_ctx_entr y_find(9), sysctl_ctx_entry_del(9) - sysctl context for managing dynamically cre ated sysctl oids HTH, KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 16:16:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F1816A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7D743D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:16:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF74DCADC01 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:16:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: DdThlbpi7vRCIBAu6MlH8AJ5DMLTWoHioR+1sDd2Toyj 1119543363 Received: from gumby.localdomain (dsl-80-41-69-240.access.as9105.com [80.41.69.240]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104AF570147 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:16:01 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:15:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <018a01c57805$bf08ed10$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> In-Reply-To: <018a01c57805$bf08ed10$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506231715.58635.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Newbie - Trouble Installing Gnome2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:16:07 -0000 On Thursday 23 June 2005 16:10, cali wrote: > > Attempting to fetch from > > ftp://ftp-FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ghostscript/. > > fetch: ghostscripts-fonts-std-8.11.tar.gz: local modification > > does not match remote > > => Couldn't find it - please try to retrieve this > > => port manually in /usr/ports/distfiles/ghostscript and try > > again. > > > > ...so, what happened? > > I did a search on google for the line "local modification does not match > remote", one of the responses was from the freebsd-questions mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/030315.h >tml > > the end result was > > >On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 11:28, Michael A. Alestock wrote: > >> fetch: cvsup-snap-16.1h.tar.gz: local modification time does not match > >> remote > > > >Either > > > >a) Remove file from /usr/ports/distfiles and try again > > > >or > > > >b) Fetch file manually into /usr/ports/distfiles > > > >... in addition to (if checksum announced in ports is wrong, which > >sometimes happen) possibly either a) making new checksum with `make > >makesum` or b) remove distinfo file. > > > >HTH > > So the idea is that the remote file failed to match some security criteria > so it was not downloaded, the resolution is explained correctly by the > response from HTH repeated above for your convenience. > > Google also returned: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-June/089503.html > > So in the future, I suggest, looking on the mailing list archive first > because you might find the answer to your question there. > IMHO the standard answer is a poor one - probably because most knowledgable people on this list have good fast connections, and rarely see this problem. When I was on dial-up, I saw this frequently because of regular disconnections. After a while I started manually restarting the downloads. Out of nine restarts only one file went on to fail it's MD5 check, and that one failed due to an incorrect value stored in the port. After I added the -F switch to the fetch command the problem went away without any ill effects. There are no security implications to this, your still protected by the MD5 hash. If a file does fail an MD5 check, it's worth deleting and redownloading it once. But after that IMO it's best to wait for the port to be fixed, unless you are sure of the file's provenance, or absolutely can't wait. Distfiles come from many different servers with different levels of security. A file *might* be failing it's MD5 check because someone has broken into the ftp/http server and uploaded modified source. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 16:16:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E0316A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:16:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaco@coocoo.za.net) Received: from riot.premsoft.co.za (mail.accountmate.co.za [196.38.54.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA9843D58 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:16:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaco@coocoo.za.net) Received: (qmail 31790 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Jun 2005 16:10:36 -0000 Received: from jaco@coocoo.za.net by riot.premsoft.co.za by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamscan: 0.65. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 8.304898 secs); 23 Jun 2005 16:10:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO webmail.premsoft.co.za) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 16:10:27 -0000 Received: from 196.37.144.108 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jaco@coocoo.za.net) by webmail.premsoft.co.za with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:10:27 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <3685.196.37.144.108.1119543027.squirrel@webmail.premsoft.co.za> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:10:27 +0200 (SAST) From: jaco@coocoo.za.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Intel SE7320VP2 board + Marvell 88E8050 nic. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:16:21 -0000 Hi all, I am not quite sure if this question belongs on freebsd-questions@ or freebsd-current@ , but I will try here first. Does anyone know the status of the support for Marvell gigabit nic's ? Escpecially the ones that is shipped with the Intel SE7320VP2 Server board which is Marvell 88E8050. I read in the archives that somebody is busy working on it, but I can not seem to locate any more info on this. Basically I do not care if there is support for 1000Mbit, I just want to use the card, even if it is in 100Mbit mode. :) I want to use this on 5.4-STABLE or maybe 6-CURRENT, seeing that 6-CURRENT is more or less stable (well, way more than 5-CURRENT was in the early days anyway :P ). Does anyone perhaps know if this is possible? Thank you in advance. --Jaco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 16:19:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6134316A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmorland@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE9243D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmorland@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so766789nzp for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:18:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AGjbez8a899QINVq81RT/YOnMdSZehzYCjGe/+8WdefggGFUTBSwiypDdiIB+mr8iRqa0OHUNjGa1gk3Bv1QqvdvTyS4IQparrFNE/Rn+RkXhx+IigC+SaNXfbW3XV2rhxs57QkFkG3TVfuPZREh60w2hFV0kNshXzZVA2PopIM= Received: by 10.36.222.40 with SMTP id u40mr1619659nzg; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.6 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8ca932905062309186d3501d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:18:49 -0400 From: Chad Morland To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Apache2 + mod_python problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chad Morland List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:19:00 -0000 I am having problems getting mod_python and apache2 ports to work properly. Here are the relevant ports that I have installed: apache-2.0.54 mod_python-3.1.4_1 python-2.4.1_1 When I try and start apache I get the following: pxetest# apachectl start Syntax error on line 276 of /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache2/mod_python.so into server: /usr/local/libexec/apache2/mod_python.so: Undefined symbol "pthread_attr_init" Line 276 is the mod_python LoadModule line. I've changed my LogLevel to debug but nothing is printed in the error_log. Thanks in advance for the help! -CM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 16:21:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7583F16A41F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:21:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (sigma.octantis.com.au [207.44.188.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2740A43D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 10683 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2005 02:21:21 +1000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.13.3?) (202.59.110.3) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 24 Jun 2005 02:21:20 +1000 Message-ID: <42BAE17A.4040503@meijome.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:21:14 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IPFILTER 'again' ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:21:22 -0000 Stephan Weaver wrote: > Hello, > > I notice this in my /var/log/ipfilter.log. > 23/06/2005 10:36:06.691347 vr0 @0:29 b 196.3.132.4,53 -> > 192.168.1.1,61827 PR udp len 20 66 IN > 23/06/2005 10:36:07.652341 vr0 @0:29 b 196.3.132.4,53 -> > 192.168.1.1,61828 PR udp len 20 70 IN which one is rule #29? ( ipfstat -ion ). that's the one that's hitting to get blocked. FWIW, my counting from the top (skipping comments) is > block in log first quick on vr0 proto tcp all flags U/SFRAU ... i cant make much sense of this (no surprises there :-D), tcp rule blocking udp...so I'm pretty certain I'm wrong in something obvious. cheers, beto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 16:46:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6392C16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:46:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA3243D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:46:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDFB5D41; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33381-09; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-69-22.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.69.22]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6EE5C54; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42BAE77C.60104@mac.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:46:52 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sadashiv Kulthe References: <20050623115232.CF08A16A420@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: syslog is missing?, was: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 100, Issue 15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:46:52 -0000 Sadashiv Kulthe wrote: > I come to know that My system do not have "Syslog" daemon or command. > Now I want to install port or package will give me syslog command. > > Please suggest me, how can I find specific port name, which will give > me desired command on my system. Perhaps you're looking for /usr/bin/logger? FreeBSD comes with syslog as part of the base system. If you update your system via a buildworld/buildkernel cycle, you will end up installing syslogd, logger, and friends if they are actually missing. -- -Chuck PS: You gain +1 karma for not quoting the entire digest. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:01:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEED16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB1743D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48A35CB2; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33543-02; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-69-22.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.69.22]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C586D5C87; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42BAEAD8.2050906@mac.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:01:12 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Admin References: <153232124.20050623172312@mgul.ac.ru> In-Reply-To: <153232124.20050623172312@mgul.ac.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mainboard E7520 and FreeBSD 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:01:12 -0000 Admin wrote: > We have the server with mainboard E7520 Master Series > MS-9136 SSI Server Board with Dual Intel Xeon 2,8 MHz, > two HDD SCSI 73Gbyte (without RAID controller) and one HDD IDE 120Gbyte. > We have some problems to install the operating system FreeBSD 5.x. > We trying install the operating system FreeBSD 5.x, but the installing > program don't see the SCSI and IDE discs. There is an infinite search > of parameters of the SCSI drive, but don't finish it, and don't begin > the tuning of the kernel parameters. First, make sure you are using FreeBSD 5.4. Second, try updating your BIOS on the motherboard and on your SCSI card, often this may help. You may have to adjust some BIOS settings, so experiment. In particular, what you want is for the BIOS to recognize your devices and assign them as drive C: (0x80), D: (0x81), etc. If this doesn't happen, your MB may simply not deal with both SCSI and IDE being present at the same time. If so, try doing the install with just the IDE drive present. For more help, it would be useful to know what your SCSI controller is and whether it is supported. Check the FreeBSD release notes. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:02:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B1416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486A843D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5NH6tii067422; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5NH6db1067421; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:06:39 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050623170639.GB67114@thought.org> References: <20050623001343.GA63523@thought.org> <20050623005626.GB1523@gothmog.gr> <20050623023627.GA63945@thought.org> <20050623093615.GE15615@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050623093615.GE15615@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: private/internal db file question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:40 -0000 On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:36:15PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-06-22 19:36, Gary Kline wrote: > > In named.conf I have two files; one is the .rev table: > > > > zone "db.private" { > > type master; > > file "/etc/namedb/s/db.private"; > > allow-query { > > 127.0.0.1/32; 10.0.0.0/8; > > }; > > }; > > > > zone "db/private.rev" { > > type master; > > file "/etc/namedb/s/db.private.rev"; > > allow-query { > > 127.0.0.1/32; 10.0.0.0/8; > > }; > > }; > > Something is very wrong above. You're not supposed to use "db.private" > (i.e. the name of the _FILE_ that stores the zone records) as the first > argument of the "zone" configuration directive. > I stared at named.conf for ten minutes before seeing what you meant. I think. How about ^zone "private"{ }; and ^zone "private.rev" { } ??? This is my entry for db.thought.org. The zone name is simply "thought.org". zone "thought.org" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/s/db.thought.org"; allow-update{ }; ... }; > >>> ;name ttl class type data > >>> 1 IN PTR localhost > >>> 1 IN PTR sage > >>> 220 IN PTR ethic > >>> 247 IN PTR tao > >>> 249 IN PTR zen > >> > >> These look mostly ok, but you may want to fix the following: > >> > >> - "localhost" is usually assigned to 127.0.0.1, not 10.0.0.1 > >> - the "IN" column is *NOT* the TTL (time to live) of a record > > > > > > What would you replace these row tags with? ((I got these from > > another database file, obv'ly.) > > > > ;name ttl class type data > > > > Would: > > > > ;record class pointer name > > More like: > > ;name class type data > 1 IN PTR sage > Ok, thanks much! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:14:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E18A16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:14:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0699443D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:14:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A9D5CB6; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33501-08; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-69-22.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.69.22]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516A55C99; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42BAEDE1.9070509@mac.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:14:09 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Slade References: <1119507562.2601.3.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1119507562.2601.3.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:14:09 -0000 Robert Slade wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 20:39, Charles Swiger wrote: [ ... ] >> Hmm. The answer is probably no, FreeBSD doesn't have anything which >> handles NFS or Samba failover transparently. > > Chuck, > > Sorry to disagree. There is a port of Heartbeat to free BSD, (it is in > the ports). It does handle NFS and Samba failover transparently. In fact > it will handle almost anything that you can start and stop via a script. I don't mind the disagreement: if the heartbeat port solves this problem, good for it. But by the same token, there are lots of third-party hardware loadbalancers and transaction servers and whatnot which use some variant on proxy-ARPing and can turn FreeBSD clients into what people call a cluster. The thing is, you end up having to implement your own syncronization scripts, pretty much on a per-service basis. It's real easy to end up with conflicting filesystems when a failure happens. So it's not quite the same thing as having the clustering capability built into the base system, and having the system /etc/rc scripts already HA/cluster-aware. Then again, lots of cluster products which are integrated into the OS, such as Microsoft's cluster solution, or Apple's XSAN, or probably even RedHat's HA cluster product, don't really deal with syncronization transparently, either-- they all seem to want a reliable NAS storage behind the scenes, or a metadata controller, or who-knows-what (respectively :-). Lots of people buy two machines, and the Microsoft cluster product, and are real suprised to learn that that isn't enough to have a working cluster. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:25:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259DA16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nirv199@yahoo.com) Received: from web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA94C43D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nirv199@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 41936 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jun 2005 17:25:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Q8kt0havwJEwIsAkDe4EeEarDnqaylZfB33TDUk7tKEX8mRWiRyhwL0jb+PfqzBC/jFDLbyV8WxcxYVVkPtirwPkB2bjNByBC1YWJbp4Hk9og3lyJQyLZXplotjOZVX1TwM5lacXqkqlgJ60P3trkAwM/B6MJqBHJ15t57vxBDs= ; Message-ID: <20050623172543.41934.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.193.147.20] by web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:25:43 PDT Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:25:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Paulo Roberto To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: removing freebsd bootloader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:25:44 -0000 Hello, How do I remove the FreeBSD bootloader from the MBR without touching the slices? I do have an active WinXP primary slice that I would like to boot from directly. thank you, Paulo __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:26:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E05916A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5AB43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F725F2D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33655-03; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-69-22.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.69.22]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8305B5C0F; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42BAF0BF.8000200@mac.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:26:23 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl References: <20050623013109.EFAD843D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050623013109.EFAD843D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: stat running as www weirdness - genarting INCOMING traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:26:24 -0000 Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: > I’m seeing weirdness of stat opening up port 4000+ and generating/receiving > enormous amounts of incoming traffic i.e. 400Gb over a 24hour time > period.Does this sound familiar to anyone ? Thanks for any brain usage not > my own. Insufficient data. From which port(s) to which port(s), and are the IP addresses on the other side the same or a random range (which would imply your machine has been hacked and is scanning outwards). Showing a tcpdump of a few example connections would be really useful. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:29:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F2616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:29:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9900543D55 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:29:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F69F3A73B2; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:29:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84310-07; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:29:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.tsgincorporated.com (lanmail.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.29]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAF93A739F; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:29:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [67.66.242.77] (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by mail.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC419527D6; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:29:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42BAF178.2090309@tsgincorporated.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:29:28 -0500 From: Micheal Patterson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050622) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paulo Roberto References: <20050623172543.41934.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050623172543.41934.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing freebsd bootloader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:29:35 -0000 Paulo Roberto wrote: >Hello, > >How do I remove the FreeBSD bootloader from the MBR without touching >the slices? > >I do have an active WinXP primary slice that I would like to boot from >directly. > >thank you, > >Paulo > > > >__________________________________ >Discover Yahoo! >Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:31:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1CE16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:31:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C79743D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jun 2005 17:31:30 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 19:31:30 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:31:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050623172543.41934.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050623172543.41934.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3821887.b7GBgltnc9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506231931.28860@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Paulo Roberto Subject: Re: removing freebsd bootloader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:31:35 -0000 --nextPart3821887.b7GBgltnc9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2005 19:25 schrieb Paulo Roberto: > Hello, > > How do I remove the FreeBSD bootloader from the MBR without touching > the slices? Without warranty, but fdisk -B should do the trick. I think it keeps the=20 partition table and replaces the boot code of the MBR. Make sure the XP=20 slice is marked active, and copy the fdisk output so you can restore it if= =20 anything goes wrong. =2DHarry > > I do have an active WinXP primary slice that I would like to boot from > directly. > > thank you, > > Paulo > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it > out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart3821887.b7GBgltnc9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCuvHwBylq0S4AzzwRAhUcAJ9BNEkMf+PQpzFc+jHQElXK81uKmQCfYlNp j6Knq1tnpP9gDepTjZl0uBQ= =ld6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3821887.b7GBgltnc9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:31:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB03416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay17-f10.bay17.hotmail.com [64.4.43.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26A343D55 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th_nuttapon@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:31:59 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 203.144.143.3 by by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:31:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.144.143.3] X-Originating-Email: [th_nuttapon@hotmail.com] X-Sender: th_nuttapon@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <200506231513.46641.bernhard.fischer@fh-stpoelten.ac.at> From: "Nuttapon Tharachaikul" To: bernhard.fischer@fh-stpoelten.ac.at, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:31:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 17:31:59.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[75D05430:01C57819] Cc: Subject: Re: Need your advise. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:31:59 -0000 Dear Bernhard, Thanks your very much. : ) Best Regards, Nuttapon T. >From: Bernhard Fischer >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,"Nuttapon Tharachaikul" > >Subject: Re: Need your advise. >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:13:38 +0200 > >On Wednesday 22 June 2005 21:28, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote: > > To Support, > > I'm interest on BSD-OS. > > Please advise me , I'm new to study Linux. > > 1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly. > > But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for >what > > ? - CHECKSUM.MD5 > >Using the MD5 checksum you can verify if the file you downloaded ist >exactly >the same as the file it should be, e.g. type md5sum >5.4-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso and compare the result. > > > 2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I >check > > this. Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can handler > > about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB or not. Have >any > > reference information's source the explain the purpose and how to handle >of > > its. > >Start reading this: >http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/relnotes.html > >bh ><< attach3 >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:49:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB5316A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4329F43D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so995455wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:49:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PyokMSRMrcuNfFx/OCwOpvmq84Vh8SNESCPMNB3oPs9IF8QG78Pucka5RDhMDbeSsIWh6ne4icM7e58cW/dbFTKLl5wtQcWHNNF0jh0b2oEE27Bkyt5/qIJ8NtW4wmKLjWT+JVy3VsplXbfRIHETpASBIR6ol13t0MqH86vvDc8= Received: by 10.54.76.6 with SMTP id y6mr1302775wra; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.55 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:49:25 -0400 From: Jeff MacDonald To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff MacDonald List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:49:26 -0000 Maybe it's just me I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. I tried the linux version from ports, which is just a precompiled version 1.0 it works great, only hitch is that Everytime i click my icon to run linux-firefox it asks me which profile to use, since default is already being used. I'm really loving haveing FreeBSD as a desktop, but this is a tad frustrating, if anyone can shed some light that would be great. FreeBSD 5.4 on AMD XP 2600+ Jeff. --=20 Jeff MacDonald http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 17:53:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B374416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sfulton-lists@connection.ca) Received: from nc-tor-mail1.connection.ca (nc-tor-mail1.connection.ca [205.207.122.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C74E43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sfulton-lists@connection.ca) Received: from [216.234.51.37] (unknown [216.234.51.37]) by nc-tor-mail1.connection.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD97C44B41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42BAF732.3070906@connection.ca> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:53:54 -0400 From: Lists User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multiple aliased IP address when using VLAN's on 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:53:51 -0000 Greetings, I have a situation where I am using multiple VLAN's on one network card. Until recently, each of those VLAN's was on a different subnet, and I had no issues. However, now I need to add several different IP's on the same subnet to one of the VLAN's, but I have been unsuccessful. It seems aliases are not allowed when using VLAN's, and adding any other VLAN interface name on an identical VLAN does not work either.. Any tips? -- Stephen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 18:02:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3E416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:02:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26B543D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:02:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0802205; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool-71-113-66-124.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net (pool-71-113-66-124.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.113.66.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B032D8D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:02:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.crystalsphere.multiverse To: Thomas Hill In-Reply-To: <3a5db5ce05062306536c802319@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050623104929.S73180@border.crystalsphere.multiverse> References: <3a5db5ce05062306536c802319@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 / linux-opera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:02:49 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Thomas Hill wrote: > However, I was previously using the web browser Opera under Linux > emulation because it supports lots of the browser plugins.... But now > when installing linux-opera from the ports collection it complains > about libX11.so.6, which I know is a common X11 library. Oh yes, and > it doesn't run at all now. > > Just wondering, is anyone using linux-opera 8.02 on FreeBSD 5.4 and > experiencing the same problem. 8.02? The latest thing I can find in the ports collection is linux-opera-8.01.20050615_2 It runs just great for me; much better than 8.0 did. libX11.so.6 is a standard X library, but linux-opera needs the linux version of the library. It sounds like you may need to work on getting your linux compatibility working. That's the trickiest part of the process. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 18:24:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2D616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:24:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: from web41005.mail.yahoo.com (web41005.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D89F43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:24:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 978 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jun 2005 18:24:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OaP5xU9FwPnKXGTmRdErF9abuUWLGj4w7RP6Ukop9rcfpJeqmLvobY1bmvi/D6YoWsZGZDvlLeKY2BqJN4GclgJBqS691MqLgu69WCAFOq2hBfJVrrmP8zFAPonWbLKSoOXh8fPbWbdkshzOP76+8W5bxZNnb4OA8sqUi5skkPk= ; Message-ID: <20050623182407.976.qmail@web41005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.20.162.6] by web41005.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:24:07 PDT Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:24:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <42B3FCC3.6030202@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP and networking under FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:24:09 -0000 Okay, I've been looking and looking for duplicate natd's. I have the /etc/rc.conf which has natd stuff below, and the only other place I see it is in ipfw. I was able to change my rc and use /etc/rc.d/natd start and that works. Which is better as it does not require me to reload my firewall rules. I still don't know why natd refuses to start the first time when called from ipfw. I have no rc.conf.local Joe --- Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Joe wrote: > > >Okay, back on topic. > > > >I've changed my rules in ipfw, and no longer get the hostname > .. > >messages. > > > >Now natd does not start and it complains 'unable to bind > divert > >socket, and then cant assign requested address'. I'm using: > > > >natd_enable="YES" > >natd_interface="dc0" > >natd_flags="-dynamic -d -log_ipfw_denied -log_denied" > > > > > > These are my parameters below which definitely work -- or you > wouldn't > be seeing this email :) I can't see anything obviously wrong > with > yours; what I would suggest is to start with just "-dynamic" > since > that's the only one that's *required* for this setup to work > and see how > that does. I can't find your original rules: I assume that a) > dc0 *is* > your external interface (typos are a common source of errors, > though I > don't think that's the case here) b) you have an > ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > line in /etc/rc.conf. > > natd_enable="YES" # Natd packet > translation > natd_flags="-log -log_denied -dynamic" > natd_interface="sis0" > ifconfig_sis0="DHCP" # External > network > > At startup I get a message like: > > Jun 18 10:38:58 natd[701]: Aliasing to 0.0.0.0, mtu 1500 bytes > > just after the firewall rules start up. > > The divert rule in my firewall says: > > ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ${natd_interface} > > If you have static rules rather than a script then you need > ${natd_interface} to be replaced directly with dc0. > > The other things to check, I guess, are that those are the > *only* natd > lines you have: > > egrep natd /etc/rc.conf /etc.rc.conf.local > > --Alex > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! 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Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 18:38:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0950616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:38:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobias.fendin@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96D643D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:38:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobias.fendin@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81.229.46.22) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.060.1) (authenticated as u18317830) id 42B92DA900067ACA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:38:52 +0200 Message-ID: <42BB01B6.9060303@telia.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:38:46 +0200 From: Tobias Fendin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050403) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sysctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:38:56 -0000 fbsd_user wrote: > Please do your home work and read the man sysctl page before just > posting messages. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sadashiv > Kulthe > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:15 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: sysctl > > > Hello, > > Sorry! I say syslog is not there but it is there with problems !!! > > -bash-2.05b# /usr/sbin/syslogd > syslogd: child pid 39793 exited with return code 1 > > My System do not have "Sysctl" .. how can I bring sysctl to my > system. > > Sadashiv > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello Syslogd quits with return code 1 if an other syslogd is already running. To check the status of syslogd try this: /etc/rc.d/syslogd status Concerning the sysctl problem: Are you sure sysctl is gone, or could it be your PATH which is corrupt? sysctl resides in /sbin. -Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 19:18:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5EF16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:18:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eman@xecu.net) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9CB43D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:18:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eman@xecu.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.106.48.219]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IIJ00FD1XMERDB6@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:18:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:18:00 -0400 From: Eric To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <42BB0AE8.3010305@xecu.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) Subject: boot into sigle user from cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:18:31 -0000 I am building a custom recovery cd and would like to have it boot into sigle user mode automatically. Within the loader.rc file I have: set boot_single which boots into signle usr, however, it prompts for the default shell; "Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" Is there a way to set the default shell so that it does not prompt? Thanks Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 19:23:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269C616A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:23:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asp@webexc.com) Received: from wxinmail01.webexc.com (mx1.mail.webexc.com [209.43.0.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E414443D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:23:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asp@webexc.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wxinmail01.webexc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9017C7CAB1 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from wxinmail01.webexc.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.mail.webexc.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07102-09 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.17.76.106] (209-212-209-89.office.webexc.com [209.212.209.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wxinmail01.webexc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D0A7CAAC for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:23:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:23:14 -0500 From: Ben Timby User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV (via amavisd-new) on mx1.mail.webexc.com Subject: Help, I killed my machine. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:23:25 -0000 I was upgrading from 4.10-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE, following the instructions in the freebsd handbook and something went wrong. I used CVSup to update my sources. I built the world and kernel as follows: cd /usr/src make buildworld && make buildkernel I am using the GENERIC config. I had to copy /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC.hints to /boot/device.hints. Before the above builds worked properly. I installed the kernel, and rebooted the system. It booted (mostly) ok, sudo did not work properly, so I had to login as root. I did mergemaster -p. I had to add the new proxy user and group for pf. After this, I did: cd /usr/src/ make installworld during the process, it died in: /usr/src/bin/test with Signal 12. No commands worked after this point, All I received was Signal 12. I cannot boot into single user mode, I receive a Signal 12 from any shell I try to use. I understand a Signal 12 is a non-existant system call. The half installworld probably caused this. How can I recover from this? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 19:30:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E2416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8454743D53 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F995CE9; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34467-06; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-69-22.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.69.22]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93345C45; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42BB0DD3.2070502@mac.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:30:27 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Timby References: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> In-Reply-To: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help, I killed my machine. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:30:29 -0000 Ben Timby wrote: [ ... ] > I understand a Signal 12 is a non-existant system call. The half > installworld probably caused this. > > How can I recover from this? The easiest way is probably to perform an "upgrade" from a 5.4 CD burned from the ISO image. Make sure you don't repartition or enable newfs, and it will leave your existing config files and other stuff alone. (Note that you do want to have a backup available, first. Of course, you made a backup of your 4.x system, or at least the important bits, before trying to do this 4->5 upgrade, right...?) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 19:36:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D0216A420 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:36:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0775443D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:36:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6870CAD9DF for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:36:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: kvx0ns59fj3wNS/XkRM+Q6PX1JcYITjIp6X2nY5Bsoc1 1119555396 Received: from gumby.localdomain (dsl-80-41-69-240.access.as9105.com [80.41.69.240]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD814570147 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:36:36 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506232036.36250.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:36:39 -0000 On Thursday 23 June 2005 18:49, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > Maybe it's just me > > I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or > new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. It works for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 19:37:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C315D16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nirv199@yahoo.com) Received: from web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7150943D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nirv199@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 72577 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jun 2005 19:37:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OrnPCWlTTIHHROg1V5Tqr6lENADR9R81kk4J3+flZ4siwyBjP/C+XWU9SIWe85JN5CS/McYSEG/qOsH0p6hRryUi2rDhGwfQxkiJr1YsOxfI4b7pOBpc8nf3ZkbCDw/3GB/5+5SVpy+QuZc1BfF/cC/nHj83GHErMeNR3PuYLGc= ; Message-ID: <20050623193742.72575.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.186.153.141] by web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:37:41 PDT Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:37:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Paulo Roberto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200506231931.28860@harrymail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: removing freebsd bootloader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:37:43 -0000 Thanks to everyone! I will perform the "surgery" tonight... best regards, Paulo __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 19:46:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472E216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asp@webexc.com) Received: from wxinmail01.webexc.com (mx1.mail.webexc.com [209.43.0.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1587343D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:46:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asp@webexc.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wxinmail01.webexc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB7E7C996; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from wxinmail01.webexc.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.mail.webexc.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10414-09; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:45:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.17.76.106] (209-212-209-89.office.webexc.com [209.212.209.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wxinmail01.webexc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870027C5DA; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:45:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42BB1171.8000705@webexc.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:45:53 -0500 From: Ben Timby User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> <42BB0DD3.2070502@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <42BB0DD3.2070502@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV (via amavisd-new) on mx1.mail.webexc.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help, I killed my machine. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:46:03 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Ben Timby wrote: > [ ... ] > >> I understand a Signal 12 is a non-existant system call. The half >> installworld probably caused this. >> >> How can I recover from this? > > > The easiest way is probably to perform an "upgrade" from a 5.4 CD burned > from the ISO image. Make sure you don't repartition or enable newfs, > and it will leave your existing config files and other stuff alone. I will give this a try. > (Note that you do want to have a backup available, first. Of course, > you made a backup of your 4.x system, or at least the important bits, > before trying to do this 4->5 upgrade, right...?) But of course! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 19:49:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBB716A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:49:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC6043D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:49:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b186.otenet.gr [212.205.244.194]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5NJmwjO007616; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:49:27 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5NJmYNN001265; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:48:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5NJmSlg001252; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:48:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:48:18 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20050623194818.GA1145@gothmog.gr> References: <20050623001343.GA63523@thought.org> <20050623005626.GB1523@gothmog.gr> <20050623023627.GA63945@thought.org> <20050623093615.GE15615@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050623170639.GB67114@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050623170639.GB67114@thought.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: private/internal db file question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:49:37 -0000 On 2005-06-23 10:06, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:36:15PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > zone "db.private" { > > > type master; > > > file "/etc/namedb/s/db.private"; > > > allow-query { > > > 127.0.0.1/32; 10.0.0.0/8; > > > }; > > > }; > > > > > > zone "db/private.rev" { > > > type master; > > > file "/etc/namedb/s/db.private.rev"; > > > allow-query { > > > 127.0.0.1/32; 10.0.0.0/8; > > > }; > > > }; > > > > Something is very wrong above. You're not supposed to use "db.private" > > (i.e. the name of the _FILE_ that stores the zone records) as the first > > argument of the "zone" configuration directive. > > I stared at named.conf for ten minutes before seeing what > you meant. I think. How about > ^zone "private"{ > }; > > and > > ^zone "private.rev" { > } Sorry for not being clear enough. The first (string) argument of the ``zone'' configuration directive is the name of the ``zone''. What exactly is a ``zone'' is what you are (probably) more inclined to call a ``domain''. In your case: - "thought.org" *IS* a zone - "private" isn't, unless you use names like "laptop.private", "hp2300.private", etc. for all the machines of your internal network. - "private.rev" is one that I bet an arm and a leg cannot and will not work, ever. Reverse zones can only work, AFAIK, if you use the ".IN-ADDR.ARPA" scheme of naming them, i.e.: options { directory "/etc/namedb"; ; ... }; zone "0.0.10.in-addr.arpa." { type master; file "master/db.10.0.0"; ; ... }; When a name server (yours, for instance) wants to lookup the name (or names) of the address 10.0.0.1, they transform the IP address to: 1.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. and start looking for zones that may match it. The following will be looked up, in order: 1.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 0.10.in-addr.arpa. 10.in-addr.arpa. > This is my entry for db.thought.org. The zone name is simply > "thought.org". That's because this is a "forward resolution", i.e. name => IP address. To resolve IP addresses, the name servers use the zone names I listed above in their lookups. By naming your zone "private.rev", you pretty much guarantee that no name server will be able to resolve IP addresses to host names for your "private" network. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 19:55:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A721D16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:55:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F259643D55 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:55:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a090.otenet.gr [212.205.215.90]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5NJtnSn010249; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:55:50 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5NJteFA001394; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:55:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5NJtdaB001393; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:55:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:55:39 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Emanuel Strobl Message-ID: <20050623195539.GD1145@gothmog.gr> References: <20050623172543.41934.qmail@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200506231931.28860@harrymail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506231931.28860@harrymail> Cc: Paulo Roberto , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing freebsd bootloader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:55:55 -0000 On 2005-06-23 19:31, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2005 19:25 schrieb Paulo Roberto: > > Hello, > > How do I remove the FreeBSD bootloader from the MBR without touching > > the slices? > > Without warranty, but fdisk -B should do the trick. I think it keeps the > partition table and replaces the boot code of the MBR. Make sure the XP > slice is marked active, and copy the fdisk output so you can restore it if > anything goes wrong. Correct. You might want to use: # fdisk -B -b /boot/mbr to make sure BootEasy is not installed instead of a plain MBR. Summing it all up in "steps", something like the following would be fine: 1. Make sure the correct partition is 'active'. # fdisk -u /dev/ad0 2. Install plain "MBR" boot code: # fdisk -B -b /boot/mbr 3. Reboot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 20:00:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7B016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:00:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE0443D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:00:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so669767wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uBHvIyL6CDzQ9kK54J9D70P/YEzcLQjqJ0bwT0Ki4G2VLJLbDlml5mwWJTQu9PmJqPJ4HPlZ0QjrzIR1ZrfpZy/O/ID8IpWNDlfiza+IvXWDO9RMLMiLBW4jlwGclpxPqKp8Za/sxgX0uVXbeGU26BdKmWxtk1MBMUHxZVNw8LI= Received: by 10.54.57.56 with SMTP id f56mr1362593wra; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:00:13 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Jeff MacDonald In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:00:14 -0000 On 6/23/05, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > Maybe it's just me >=20 > I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or > new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. Does it look like it pre-fetches links on the new page? Later versions of FireFox tend to do that, for well understandable but not quite correct reasons. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 20:04:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355B016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20A643D58 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD24123A1D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:02:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E171412B104; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:02:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39606-08; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id C944712B033; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BB1559.6010604@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:02:33 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Timby References: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> In-Reply-To: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help, I killed my machine. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:12 -0000 Ben Timby wrote: > [...] I built the world and kernel as follows: So I guess you didn't followed the step-by-step instructions in the migration guide? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/migration-guide.html > cd /usr/src > make buildworld && make buildkernel > > [...] > > I did mergemaster -p. The -p stands for "pre-buildworld mode", i.e. you should run it before buildworld. ;-) I would do a fresh clean installation in your case now. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 20:04:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6846416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DC443D55 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a090.otenet.gr [212.205.215.90]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5NK4QR4013753; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:30 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5NK4F4P001496; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5NK4F1M001495; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:14 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Eric Message-ID: <20050623200414.GE1145@gothmog.gr> References: <42BB0AE8.3010305@xecu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BB0AE8.3010305@xecu.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot into sigle user from cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:33 -0000 On 2005-06-23 15:18, Eric wrote: > I am building a custom recovery cd and would like to have it boot into > sigle user mode automatically. > > Within the loader.rc file I have: > set boot_single > > which boots into signle usr, however, it prompts for the default shell; > > "Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" > > Is there a way to set the default shell so that it does not prompt? IIRC, it is init(8) that prints this final message and not the loader. Right... if you look at /usr/src/sbin/init/init.c, you'll see that init(8) builds with -DDEBUGSHELL. Removing this from the Makefile and rebuilding /sbin/init disabled the prompt for a shell and will just fire up /bin/sh (or whatever _PATH_BSHELL was when /sbin/init was built). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 20:13:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742B716A468 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300CF43D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix, from userid 106) id CEB2D3D7B33; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:15:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.174.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AE83D7B2D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BB17FB.5000606@celeritystorm.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:13:47 +0100 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:13:40 -0000 Are you using KDE? Try disabling tcp blackhole, it tends to slow KDE down a lot. Dmitry Mityugov wrote: >On 6/23/05, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > > >>Maybe it's just me >> >>I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or >>new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. >> >> > >Does it look like it pre-fetches links on the new page? Later versions >of FireFox tend to do that, for well understandable but not quite >correct reasons. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 20:26:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BFD16A426 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:26:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: from beastie.creo.hu (www.creo.hu [217.113.62.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C8543D5D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:26:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: from beastie.creo.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.creo.hu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5NKQaXg085090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:26:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: (from csaba@localhost) by beastie.creo.hu (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5NKQaDb085089 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:26:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from csaba) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:26:36 +0200 From: Csaba Henk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050623202636.GL81682@beastie.creo.hu> References: <8ca932905062309186d3501d0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ca932905062309186d3501d0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Apache2 + mod_python problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:26:47 -0000 On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:18:49PM -0400, Chad Morland wrote: > I am having problems getting mod_python and apache2 ports to work properly. > > Here are the relevant ports that I have installed: > apache-2.0.54 > mod_python-3.1.4_1 > python-2.4.1_1 > > When I try and start apache I get the following: > > pxetest# apachectl start > Syntax error on line 276 of /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache2/mod_python.so into server: > /usr/local/libexec/apache2/mod_python.so: Undefined symbol > "pthread_attr_init" Can it be that you have installed mod_python with thread support enabled, but your python is w/o thread support? I had mysterious errors with mod_python (the error messages had nothing to do with threads) until I disabled threads both in python and mod_python. Csaba From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 21:12:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE35316A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:12:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (62-14-217-85.inversas.jazztel.es [62.14.217.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4805343D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:12:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.42] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D52FD06D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:11:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BB25A9.5080806@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:12:09 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050529) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff MacDonald References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:12:24 -0000 Jeff MacDonald wrote: > I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or > new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. Could be memory shortage. I have found opening tabs to be far faster than opening new windows which makes my firefox hang. Also, I have noted certain web pages seem to hang the browser while loading, including opening new tabs, however I believe it to be bad web coding. Most anoying however is, when I open a new tab - I have a blank page as start page - it hangs until that blank page is "loaded" before allowing me to enter a url. > I tried the linux version from ports, which is just a precompiled > version 1.0 it works great, only hitch is that Everytime i click my > icon to run linux-firefox it asks me which profile to use, since > default is already being used. This hitch is with linux and native version as well as mozillas suite, it's due to file locking. Thing is that the running process will be unaware of any changes to config files bookmarks etc. For the same reason, you sometimes have to remove a "lock" file if firefox crashes. Certainly, it could be solved more elegantly with some IPC signal to the running process opening a new window. This should be trivial since something similar is used to make thunderbird open a mail editor when you click a mailto: link in the browser, and similarly, thunderbird can force opening a webpage from the reader. > I'm really loving haveing FreeBSD as a desktop, but this is a tad > frustrating, if anyone can shed some light that would be great. Honestly, you must be the owner of a rare specie of perfectly running XP if these issues are what keeps you from using FBSD on your desktop. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 21:13:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4638916A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:13:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9657943D5C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so609155wra for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:13:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AVTxpMiSi+q+XgtRVf7o3nqjLKBEf1NWJrilF5m7/Pc8pnVd0jAzdPOTFh5E9lHaTLStE8qa6A9UyJrxoEEtCA5u0op/GVrFp9Z1XxFLIRBUUvBaHvtZKOM6UUi+fWjMiFoJNgc19zbKyOnbq5hp+cqFAHxg+x2cZ5l9OnwR2ug= Received: by 10.54.76.12 with SMTP id y12mr1411648wra; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.55 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:13:02 -0400 From: Jeff MacDonald To: - In-Reply-To: <42BB17FB.5000606@celeritystorm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BB17FB.5000606@celeritystorm.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff MacDonald List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:13:16 -0000 under which options might i find that ? or is it a sysctl thing ? Jeff. On 6/23/05, - wrote: > Are you using KDE? Try disabling tcp blackhole, it tends to slow KDE > down a lot. >=20 > Dmitry Mityugov wrote: >=20 > >On 6/23/05, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > > > > > >>Maybe it's just me > >> > >>I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or > >>new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. > >> > >> > > > >Does it look like it pre-fetches links on the new page? Later versions > >of FireFox tend to do that, for well understandable but not quite > >correct reasons. > > > > > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 Jeff MacDonald http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 21:40:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581DB16A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:40:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094F743D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:40:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B695F123971; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:39:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC30512B0F7; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:39:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 52602-01; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:39:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F20B12B033; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:39:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BB2C08.1060606@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:39:20 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Hill References: <3a5db5ce05062306536c802319@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a5db5ce05062306536c802319@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 / linux-opera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:40:54 -0000 Thomas Hill wrote: > But now > when installing linux-opera from the ports collection it complains > about libX11.so.6, which I know is a common X11 library. Please tell your version and the exact error message. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 21:50:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267DE16A420 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:50:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [65.219.237.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E424243D5F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from localhost (leblanc.eng.mirrorimage.net [65.219.237.158]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 98CE16926F; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:50:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:50:57 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= Message-ID: <20050623215056.GC14105@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= , Ben Timby , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> <42BB1559.6010604@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BB1559.6010604@cs.tu-berlin.de> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ben Timby Subject: Re: Help, I killed my machine. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:50:54 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/23/05 10:02 PM, Bj=F6rn K=F6nig sat at the `puter and typed: > Ben Timby wrote: >=20 > > [...] I built the world and kernel as follows: >=20 > So I guess you didn't followed the step-by-step instructions in the=20 > migration guide? >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/migration-guide.html >=20 > > cd /usr/src > > make buildworld && make buildkernel > >=20 > > [...] > > > > I did mergemaster -p. >=20 > The -p stands for "pre-buildworld mode", i.e. you should run it before=20 > buildworld. ;-) >=20 > I would do a fresh clean installation in your case now. Uh, careful. My copy of the FreeBSD handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html) says to do it this way: # make buildworld # make buildkernel # make installkernel # reboot Note: There are a few rare cases when an extra run of mergemaster -p is needed before the buildworld step. These are described in UPDATING. In general, though, you can safely omit this step if you are not updating across one or more major FreeBSD versions. After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). Then run: # mergemaster -p # make installworld # mergemaster # reboot Every time I have to do an upgrade, one of my crucial steps prior to reboot is to print out that page and tape it to my right monitor. I always forget the right order. Always. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Modesty: The gentle art of enhancing your charm by pretending not to be aware of it. -- Oliver Herford --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCuy7Ar4Wi/oDI2aIRAuFGAJ9ZhGK2sU5lELKx1bxCv/HtrQrrLQCfeDAK qoiBRxFpEp8IpBJ6qvTFWlw= =w9f1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 22:43:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D2A16A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:43:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107AF43D1F; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:43:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-37.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.37]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5081239E8; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:42:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE3C12B104; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:42:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56053-04; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734FF12B02A; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BB3AC0.7000408@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:42:08 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> <42BB1559.6010604@cs.tu-berlin.de> <20050623215056.GC14105@keyslapper.net> In-Reply-To: <20050623215056.GC14105@keyslapper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: dougb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help, I killed my machine. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:43:45 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 06/23/05 10:02 PM, Björn König sat at the `puter and typed: > >>The -p stands for "pre-buildworld mode", i.e. you should run it before >>buildworld. ;-) > > Uh, careful. My copy of the FreeBSD handbook > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html) > says to do it this way: > > # make buildworld > # make buildkernel > # make installkernel > # reboot > > [...] > > After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single > user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). Then run: > > # mergemaster -p > # make installworld > # mergemaster > # reboot Indeed. I read the mergemaster script partially and deceided that it won't hurt to run 'mergemaster -p' before 'make buildworld'; and I think that this way is the intention of the author of mergemaster too. If I'm mistaken then somebody should state the description in mergemaster(8) more precisely. I think it is confusing to call it 'pre-buildworld mode' if it would be better to execute this command after 'make buildworld' in general. I prefer looking into manpages than into the handbook. Björn P.S.: I CC'd Doug Barton who wrote most parts of mergemaster. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 23:07:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1453216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:07:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E7743D4C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:07:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:59046 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dlamj-000A1o-IN; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:07:01 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Chuck Swiger'" Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:06:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-index: AcV4GK3HFQvcEEimTomRIYTAGdMnIwAKanVw In-Reply-To: <42BAF0BF.8000200@mac.com> Message-Id: <20050623230702.B4E7743D4C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: stat running as www weirdness - genarting INCOMING traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:07:03 -0000 After I stopped being lazy ( my sincere apologies) and a little = backtracking I realized I had been seriously compromised. A cronjob had been installed in /var/tmp/httpd.cron This contained the following disturbing files : drwxr-xr-x 3 www wheel 512B Jun 23 23:30 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 327M Jun 22 09:46 my.summer.of.love.2005.italian.md.ts.xvid-mcf.avi drwxr-xr-x 4 www wheel 1.0K Jun 22 06:31 ./ -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 482M Jun 21 22:39 My.SuMMer.Of.LoVe.2005.iTaLiaN.MD.TS.XviD-MCF.avi -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 1.1K Jun 21 07:08 Infodll.state -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 1.1K Jun 21 07:05 Infodll.state~ -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 0B Jun 19 16:54 PROFONDO_BLU_.avi -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 6.0K Jun 16 01:05 README.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 1.5K Jun 12 21:46 httpd.cron -rwxr-xr-x 1 www wheel 207K Jun 10 18:52 stat* drwxr-xr-x 2 www wheel 512B Jun 10 18:52 obj/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 www wheel 59.8K Jun 10 18:51 convertxdccfile* -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 4.2K Jun 10 18:51 Makefile drwxr-xr-x 2 www wheel 512B Jun 10 18:51 src/ -r--r--r-- 1 www wheel 22.6K Jan 17 00:17 sample.config -r--r--r-- 1 www wheel 15.6K Jan 17 00:17 COPYING -r--r--r-- 1 www wheel 23.0K Jan 17 00:17 WHATSNEW -r--r--r-- 1 www wheel 4.0K Jan 17 00:17 Makefile.config -r-xr-xr-x 1 www wheel 28.5K Jan 17 00:17 Configure* -r-xr-xr-x 1 www wheel 857B Jan 17 00:17 iroffer.cron* -r-xr-xr-x 1 www wheel 942B Jan 17 00:17 dynip.sh* -r--r--r-- 1 www wheel 5.0K Jan 17 00:17 README -rw-r--r-- 1 www wheel 15B Jan 17 00:17 .cset_number Iroffer had been installed http://iroffer.org/ The cronjob did the following : more httpd.cron ################### Logging ################# #pidfile Infodll.pid #logfile Infodll.log logstats no logrotate weekly statefile Infodll.state ########################################### #################### Connessione ############# connectionmethod direct server 66.225.223.54 6666 server 66.225.223.54 6669 server 66.225.223.54 6667 channel #Eternity -key otis channel #Eternity.staff -key otis user_realname ETE user_modes +ix loginname ETE tcprangestart 4000 #usenatip 195.41.47.74 ########################################### #################### Slot e Code ############## slotsmax 15 queuesize 25 nickserv_pass beatat maxtransfersperperson 1 maxqueueditemsperperson 1 restrictlist yes restrictsend yes #restrictprivlist yes ############################################ ##################### Headline ################ creditline ^C14\ \^C15^B Staff f0r #Eternity ^C14\\^B^C headline ^C14\ \^C15^B Staff f0r #Eternity ^C14\\^B^C ############################################ ############# Adminhost e download ############### adminhost *!*@Eternity.Staff adminhost *!*@Eternity.Staff adminhost *!*@*Eternity.Staff* uploadhost *!*@* downloadhost *!*@*.* downloadhost *!*@* #firewall yes hideos yes ############################################# ################ QUI VA ADMINPASS ############## adminpass pYiNmgVwHKZHE ############################################## ####### RUNTIME ADDED ####### filedir /var/tmp/cron/httpd uploaddir /var/tmp/cron/httpd user_nick ETE|DivX-01 Using dynip to advertise my box . Aaaargh !=20 Thanks for the help anyway. Regards,=20 Ruben -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com]=20 Sent: June 23, 2005 7:26 PM To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: stat running as www weirdness - genarting INCOMING traffic Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: > I=92m seeing weirdness of stat opening up port 4000+ and generating/receiving > enormous amounts of incoming traffic i.e. 400Gb over a 24hour time > period.Does this sound familiar to anyone ? Thanks for any brain usage = not > my own. Insufficient data. From which port(s) to which port(s), and are the IP=20 addresses on the other side the same or a random range (which would = imply your=20 machine has been hacked and is scanning outwards). Showing a tcpdump of a few example connections would be really useful. --=20 -Chuck --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: = 06/22/2005 --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: = 06/22/2005 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: = 06/22/2005 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 23:43:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18C016A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:43:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfma629@student.liu.se) Received: from xanadu.unit.liu.se (xanadu.unit.liu.se [130.236.230.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD8743D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:43:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfma629@student.liu.se) Received: by xanadu.unit.liu.se (Postfix, from userid 102) id C8E9B4D63C; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:43:07 +0200 (MEST) Received: from liu.se (avalon.unit.liu.se [130.236.230.138]) by xanadu.unit.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B46D4D5EB for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:43:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [81.94.82.239] by qom.unit.liu.se (mshttpd); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:43:05 +0200 From: Ulf Magnusson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <5591e955475b.55475b5591e9@liu.se> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:43:05 +0200 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.05 (built Mar 3 2005) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4-liu_20050621_1634 (2005-06-05) on themis.unit.liu.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, LIU_FROM_MATCHES_LIUSTUDENT autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4-liu_20050621_1634 Subject: NAT router confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:43:10 -0000 I connect to the Internet through a NAT router serving two hosts, both with addresses on the same local network (192.168.0\24). How does this work? Can hosts connected to different router interfaces really be on the same network (provided the router is in the only path between the two systems)? What about broadcast messages on the network, aren't those blocked by routers? Does the router make an exception when it sees that the broadcast is for a network it is connected to through multiple interfaces (I noticed that only UDP packets sent to the network broadcast address, 192.168.0.255, propagate to all hosts, while packets sent to 255.255.255.255 don't)? Is this router really some switch/router hybrid? Or..? Bleh, someone please sort this out for me. I realize this isn't strictly FreeBSD-related, but I simply couldn't think of a better place to pick brains, so I hope I'll be excused :) Ulf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 23:52:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651B416A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:52:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgrady@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247D243D1D for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:52:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgrady@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so50204wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:52:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Zj5EuOa1Gmor0vuHvDZ9TW+IOc/Wmd2To7FtYoDtfBDoqhZM/0J6GB4Uzttv7CqgVWx/k/W361PRnsyEKlrqN5EFNrefgPfMMSRJAy1C0OtMyAPrhpOwiPKFtvFhfgln5I890o+XAoGuBO5ih0rmQhoRYzGbTIuYJmthzqN5BFk= Received: by 10.54.42.17 with SMTP id p17mr1449938wrp; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.75 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5fee5e3005062316526facf51d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:52:02 -0500 From: luke To: Brian Duke In-Reply-To: <20050623132210.131AD43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050623132210.131AD43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with a failed install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: luke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:52:03 -0000 On 6/23/05, Brian Duke wrote: > The BTX loader fails right after the initial setup screen. I press any > option except install prompt and it fails. the first thing i would do is try different installation media. disabling acpi might help. it's certainly worth a try(those instructions from "help!!!..." are for disabling acpi. hopefully that will get you booted to sysinstall. beyond that, hopefully the kernel on the install media has support for your raid card or else you're going to have the same problem you had with solaris and fedora. good luck luke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 23:55:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139B816A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from web1.nidhog.com (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C608E43D49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:55:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from blacksea.nedyah.org (semcheski.squirrelhill.nidhog.net [66.207.143.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by web1.nidhog.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5NNtpiY062113 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:55:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) From: "Michael H. Semcheski" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:46:46 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <5591e955475b.55475b5591e9@liu.se> In-Reply-To: <5591e955475b.55475b5591e9@liu.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506231946.47626.lists@immuneit.com> X-Greylist: Recipient e-mail whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: NAT router confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:55:52 -0000 On Thursday 23 June 2005 07:43 pm, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > Is this router really some switch/router hybrid? Or..? Bleh, someone > please sort this out for me. I realize this isn't strictly > FreeBSD-related, but I simply couldn't think of a better place to pick > brains, so I hope I'll be excused :) It is a switch / router hybrid. If the traffic is going to an address on the same network, its a switch. If the traffic is going to an address on a different network, its a router. If you understand that concept, then you should have a pretty good idea of how the system works. I do not have a complete enough understanding of IP networks to explain this in specific detail. I think the key is that the computer generating the traffic looks at the netmask for the sending interface (eg, 255.255.255.0) and uses this to determine if the endpoint of the traffic is on the same network or not. If it is, it sends the traffic directly to the host. If it is on a different network, it forwards the traffic to the gateway address. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 00:13:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD8516A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F12543D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:13:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.157.226]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5O08oHl060646; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:08:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <42BB4ED8.6060509@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:07:52 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff MacDonald References: <42BB17FB.5000606@celeritystorm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: - , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:13:53 -0000 >>Dmitry Mityugov wrote: > >>Are you using KDE? Try disabling tcp blackhole, it tends to slow KDE >>down a lot. > > > >Jeff MacDonald wrote: >under which options might i find that ? >or is it a sysctl thing ? >Jeff. Looks to be the latter ... [579] Thu 23.Jun.2005 19:05:36 [kadmin@archangel][/etc/mail] # sysctl -a | grep blackhole net.inet.tcp.blackhole: 0 net.inet.udp.blackhole: 0 HTH, KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 01:04:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F151E16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:04:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from militantjingoist@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A7143D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:04:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from militantjingoist@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so300571nzp for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:04:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jxm4OHvEhb4FkZvqZsS0EzaOkBnoSiC7Kn1yMahAZwkz/MmyMIH7gIJuNBJqMU/7iLXmmvDFw6qHHg0BEGLgQO+yax+tJY13bOmL09rg4dfcxAv4YCESN4yA600KkQEv0kC0yp+v4Jpa2rSF5W9txRgZH1iALgr7ipSpo5b+BB0= Received: by 10.36.56.16 with SMTP id e16mr1910221nza; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? ([68.189.201.207]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15sm2548811nzp.2005.06.23.18.04.29; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42BB5C26.7090702@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:04:38 -0500 From: Jim Haskell User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Help with 'make' failure while building custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:04:32 -0000 I, a relatively newcomer to FreeBSD, am having trouble compiling my own kernel for my new FreeBSD box. According to the handbook, if 'make' fails (and /usr/sbin/config and make dep do not have problems,) I should seek the wisdom of those on this listserv. Attached is my kernel config. If any of you would be so kind as to take the time to look at my config and give me a suggestion, I would be grateful. Sincerely, Jim Haskell P.S.: Some notes about my system -- the target machine is a pIII 850 mhz (which I've positively identified as an i686 type), and the only network cards installed use the rl driver. ---- config file ---- # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.413.2.13 2005/04/02 16:37:58 scottl Exp $ machine i386 #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident HEPHAISTOS maxusers 0 # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=15000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. # These options enable all the fun firewall tricks I like. options ALTQ options ALTQ_CBQ # Class Bases Queueing (CBQ) options ALTQ_RED # Random Early Detection (RED) options ALTQ_RIO # RED In/Out options ALTQ_HFSC # Hierarchical Packet Scheduler (HFSC) options ALTQ_PRIQ # Priority Queuing (PRIQ) device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') #device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters #device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters #device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters #device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters #device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. #device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) #device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd # CD #device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) #device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* #device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options #device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x #device iir # Intel Integrated RAID #device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID #device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID #device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 #device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Enable this for the pcvt (VT220 compatible) console driver device vt options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. #device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge #device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus #device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers): device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card #device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card #device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support #device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet #device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit ethernet #device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit ethernet #device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'lnc') #device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit ethernet #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. #device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' #device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards #device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ #device ep # Etherlink III based cards #device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards #device ie # EtherExpress 8/16, 3C507, StarLAN 10 etc. #device lnc # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards #device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips #device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # ISA devices that use the old ISA shims #device le # Wireless NIC cards #device wlan # 802.11 support #device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. #device awi # BayStack 660 and others #device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. #device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter device pf # Packet Filter device pflog # Packet Filter Logging tool device pfsync # Used to monitor state changes # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface #device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player #device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet #device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet #device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet #device cue # CATC USB Ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet #device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support #device firewire # FireWire bus code #device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) #device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 01:34:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CB316A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@xecu.net) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C321843D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@xecu.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.106.48.219]) by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IIK00IR9F1C73X9@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:34:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:34:13 -0400 From: Eric In-reply-to: <20050623200414.GE1145@gothmog.gr> To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-id: <42BB6315.9080201@xecu.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <42BB0AE8.3010305@xecu.net> <20050623200414.GE1145@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot into sigle user from cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:34:27 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >On 2005-06-23 15:18, Eric wrote: > > >>I am building a custom recovery cd and would like to have it boot into >>sigle user mode automatically. >> >>Within the loader.rc file I have: >> set boot_single >> >>which boots into signle usr, however, it prompts for the default shell; >> >>"Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:" >> >>Is there a way to set the default shell so that it does not prompt? >> >> > >IIRC, it is init(8) that prints this final message and not the loader. > >Right... > >if you look at /usr/src/sbin/init/init.c, you'll see that init(8) builds >with -DDEBUGSHELL. Removing this from the Makefile and rebuilding >/sbin/init disabled the prompt for a shell and will just fire up /bin/sh >(or whatever _PATH_BSHELL was when /sbin/init was built). > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Excellent, Thank you so very much that did the trick! Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 01:54:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FA316A41F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:54:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A9243D53 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:54:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so778447wra for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:54:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UhnBDy9WbkzQJ65rTDnH6LHnh/obAf+MPHqSuupICazOjseOGPJVuwdGCezkxGSGl3GYuuoT95C7wzbHujo6Yhg7hKmjHATeZT1cYl/IS4Kq+1gpXN7Qzf0lNN2otNdZa6jhaxNSeWfkmRbrOSZHNFXxsCu41CUIcPVCjfUttwY= Received: by 10.54.15.71 with SMTP id 71mr1537129wro; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.16 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:54:27 +0300 From: Abu Khaled To: Reid Linnemann In-Reply-To: <20050623155015.CC6F0A0633@csa.cs.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050623155015.CC6F0A0633@csa.cs.okstate.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netgraph startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:54:28 -0000 On 6/23/05, Reid Linnemann wrote: >=20 > I'm using netgraph to bridge a few interfaces on a -CURRENT system. > I've used the example bridge script > /usr/share/examples/netgraph/ether.bridge, and it works perfectly after > setting the interface vars. >=20 > However, there are no rc.d hooks (that I am aware of) that will kick off > netgraph scripts on system boot, forcing me to manually run the netgraph > script at each reboot. I'm sure I could hack the script to give it > rcorder keywords and handlers for rcng arguments, but that seems to be > an overworked solution. I'm curious, how have other netgraph users have > solved this problem? Why don't you start your script from /etc/rc.local. I use rc.local to start many scripts for custom commands/daemons I need to be ready once the system (re)starts. # ee /etc/rc.local /foo.sh --=20 Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 02:10:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1DF16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622DA43D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050624021022.XQSC14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:10:22 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:10:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: IPF adding single rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:10:24 -0000 ipfstat -ni lists the in core inbound rules with their line number Say I want to add a single rule before rule line number 17 If I have a file addrule with 17 block in quick on dc0 from any to any and then issue ipf -f addrule I get error that 17 is unknown keyword (17) Is there any way to insert a rule into the in core rules at the desired location and then later just remove that rule?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 02:14:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3186F16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:14:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennyboy@cableone.net) Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F248243D1F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:14:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennyboy@cableone.net) Received: from dualman.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.190.179]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23909610 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:14:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:14:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Denny White To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050623210442.F89435@dualman.cableone.net> X-GPG-PUBLIC_KEY: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E OE67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 7, First 49, in=47, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.190.179 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Subject: freebsd-update fetch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:14:27 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Did freebsd-update fetch and got this: Fetching updates signature... Fetching hash list signature... Examining local system... The following files are affected by security fixes, but have not been updated because they have been modified locally: /usr/bin/gunzip /usr/bin/gzcat /usr/bin/gzip /usr/bin/zcat /usr/sbin/tcpdump No updates available I read some of the reasons updates wouldn't be fetched, one of which was, I believe, if the system had been rebuilt locally, which it has. Here's uname -aip output for my system: FreeBSD dualman.cableone.net 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sun Jun 19 21:03:22 CDT 2005 root@dualman.cableone.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DUALMAN2 i386 i386 DUALMAN2 So, I guess my question is, am I okay at this point, i.e., does freebsd-update's output mean they've already been fixed locally, or do I need to specify a branch and force an update on the files. Thanks for all help. Denny White -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCu2x8y0Ty5RZE55oRArkJAKC872J9iJjYISYi26hm9Bf21hwMowCgucop YlC2M5uD2ulZ+bd1iFhtxFw= =wQCL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 02:51:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B15516A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:51:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92DE43D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:51:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j5O2pGT3047748 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200506240251.j5O2pGT3047748@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Virtual Interfaces and Subnet Masks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:51:17 -0000 We needed to bring up a second interface on a FreeBSD system in order to cause it to substitute for another FreeBSD box that bravely stayed up for 471 days and then appears to have had a hardware failure of some kind. The substitute system already had fxp0 on the network in question and when I brought up fxp1 on that same network, the nightmare started. You can't seem to have two interfaces with the same subnet mask on the same VLAN. After much frustration, I simply changed the primary interface to be that of the dead host and we are doing without the original address for now. The network mask is 255.255.252.0. Is there any way to have more than one interface on the same subnet with that same subnet mask? Thank you. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 02:53:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AA016A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:53:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daniel@stiw.org) Received: from tibor.swiftdsl.com.au (tibor.swiftdsl.com.au [202.154.92.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDF943D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:53:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daniel@stiw.org) Received: (qmail 13377 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2005 02:53:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dmarsh.djcarmichael.com.au) ([202.154.87.60]) (envelope-sender ) by tibor.swiftdsl.com.au (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Jun 2005 02:53:41 -0000 To: "Martin McCormick" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200506240251.j5O2pGT3047748@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:51:48 +0800 From: "Daniel Marsh" Organization: STIW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200506240251.j5O2pGT3047748@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.01 (Win32, build 7642) Cc: Subject: Re: Virtual Interfaces and Subnet Masks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:53:25 -0000 Why don't you just setup an IP alias for the fxp0 interface? ie: ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 192.168.1.7" On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:51:16 +0800, Martin McCormick wrote: > We needed to bring up a second interface on a FreeBSD system > in order to cause it to substitute for another FreeBSD box that > bravely stayed up for 471 days and then appears to have had a > hardware failure of some kind. > > The substitute system already had fxp0 on the network in > question and when I brought up fxp1 on that same network, the > nightmare started. You can't seem to have two interfaces with the > same subnet mask on the same VLAN. After much frustration, I simply > changed the primary interface to be that of the dead host and we are > doing without the original address for now. > > The network mask is 255.255.252.0. Is there any way to have > more than one interface on the same subnet with that same subnet mask? > > Thank you. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 03:09:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E121316A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:09:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DC043D1D for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:09:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.157.226]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5O39LPf061392; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:09:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <42BB7926.2060206@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:08:22 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Haskell References: <42BB5C26.7090702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42BB5C26.7090702@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with 'make' failure while building custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:09:25 -0000 Jim Haskell wrote: > I, a relatively newcomer to FreeBSD, am having trouble compiling my own > kernel for my new FreeBSD box. According to the handbook, if 'make' > fails (and /usr/sbin/config and make dep do not have problems,) I should > seek the wisdom of those on this listserv. Attached is my kernel config. > If any of you would be so kind as to take the time to look at my config > and give me a suggestion, I would be grateful. > > Sincerely, > Jim Haskell > > P.S.: Some notes about my system -- the target machine is a pIII 850 > mhz (which I've positively identified as an i686 type), and the only > network cards installed use the rl driver. > > ---- config file ---- > # > # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 > # > Hello, Jim! IANAE, but I'm pretty sure that the last several lines of output of the failed "make" command, and perhaps giving the command that caused the failure, in addition to your config file, would be Most Helpful(TM). Also, have you been received the error more than once, and, if so, in the same place in the build, or at different stages? Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 03:56:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B7716A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B6543D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so127070wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:56:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=krqkdYoj4JLchvb4nzvkn0B4jSqkf30cH/R5ozElghPzuaGCDtE78tmR5RlIRUItu5jGQQJ4Yq21F7vrG2JQtqqgDuWrPKeF/TQ6r6PTXm3usHpVkm0lc3ETGm5oqwo1q+GFuVIC+mfS7wdQK1ff65QzfT5GKfHSrwF5AaBnMc0= Received: by 10.54.49.67 with SMTP id w67mr664357wrw; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.4 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <126eac480506232056568f5950@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:56:26 -0400 From: Josh Ockert To: Sean Murphy In-Reply-To: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B98C40.8090705@calarts.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Goals for 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:56:27 -0000 You might find this helpful: http://www.osnews.com/printer.php?news_id=3D10951 --=20 Josh Ockert WMU Student: Computer Science, French Linguistics -- The irony in biblical creationists' rhetoric of implicitly claiming that God is too stupid to make carbon decay at a constant rate is too delicious to ignore. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 04:17:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F194B16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:17:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D59A43D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:17:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 23244 invoked by uid 207); 24 Jun 2005 04:17:47 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.42):. Processed in 0.401943 secs); 24 Jun 2005 04:17:47 -0000 Received: from dialup42.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.42]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 24 Jun 2005 04:17:46 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5O4HZ1R065674; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:17:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5O4HZ5E065673; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:17:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:17:34 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050624041734.GB65405@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPF adding single rule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:17:50 -0000 On 2005-06-23 22:10, fbsd_user wrote: > ipfstat -ni lists the in core inbound rules with their line number > Say I want to add a single rule before rule line number 17 > If I have a file addrule with 17 block in quick on dc0 from any to any > and then issue ipf -f addrule I get error that 17 is unknown keyword (17) > > Is there any way to insert a rule into the in core rules at the desired > location and then later just remove that rule?? Yes there is a way. You just have to prefix the rule number with '@'. # ipf -f - @17 block in quick on dc0 from any to any ^D This is apparent in the second BNF rule in the description of the IPF syntax, documented in ipf.conf(5). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 04:59:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D66816A41F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:59:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA35943D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:59:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so148390wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:59:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WYHOP5q0wCOZGoIQY/zYrXUdzDTYaOM0FcAROLLeU64fUBDy8KDAnNGqFOAP6siC8SgvAIvy6dCii4PDH8Sxay/dwXrTMy2Fr2m6hoW3EOQDjEPkJ0Di1yxFbPF7iwVJhjNERyCff4WIp8BwUyIs2mn3DZk2rNtuI/Eojt4B/gg= Received: by 10.54.42.17 with SMTP id p17mr1570833wrp; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:59:26 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= In-Reply-To: <42BAA90E.3060309@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BAA0A9.3090808@aboutsupport.com> <42BAA90E.3060309@cs.tu-berlin.de> Cc: Peter , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Simple ipfw problem :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:59:27 -0000 On 6/23/05, Bj=F6rn K=F6nig wrote: ... > Actually you don't need ipfw or any other packet filter to set up a > simple internet access point for clients in a LAN. This configuration > should be enough: >=20 > ---- ppp.conf ---- > myisp: > set device PPPoE: > set log Phase IPCP CCP Warning Error Alert > add! default HISADDR > set authname > set authkey > ---- > Note: is your external network interface, i.e. neither rl0 > nor tun0. >=20 > ---- rc.conf ---- > gateway_enable=3D"YES" # "sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=3D1" at start= up > ppp_enable=3D"YES" > ppp_mode=3D"ddial" > ppp_profile=3D"myisp" > ppp_nat=3D"YES" # alternatively "nat enable yes" in ppp.conf > ---- >=20 > I hope I didn't forget about something. nat deny_incoming yes might be a good addition to this list. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 06:12:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C19516A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:12:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpalm@global.t-bird.edu) Received: from mx9.mysite4now.com (mx9.mysite4now.com [66.102.135.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0708B43D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:12:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpalm@global.t-bird.edu) Received: from [67.164.71.235] by mx9.mysite4now.com [66.102.135.68] with SmartMax MailMax for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:18:00 -0700 X-SmartMax-AuthUser: chris@palmconsulting.com Message-ID: <42BBA457.9050601@global.t-bird.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:12:39 -0700 From: Chris Palm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Building applications on BSD software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:12:44 -0000 Hello, I am writing a b-school paper on the use of open source software components and libraries used in and distributed with a company's applications, and the legal copyright and other business issues that arise. What kinds of distribution requirements in terms of licensing would be in place around distributing one of BSD's libraries? If a company was to want to leverage and distribute these libraries with its products, what would that company have to do? Would you be willing to share a licensing agreement for BSD components? I found your legal page, but was unclear as to whether a third party developer would use the the GNU or not. The reason I ask for this is I want to see how viable a software product can be if it includes and is built in part on third party libraries. I have chosen BSD simply because a member of our class project team is familiar with it from a past life. We would be happy to share our report with your team after completion. Thank you, in advance, for any and all help you can provide on this. Best Regards, Chris Palm MBA Candidate Thunderbird, Garvin School of International Management Class 2006 Phone: 650 799 0410 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 06:44:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CA616A41F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (ns.bitdefender.com [217.156.83.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D22B43D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:44:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: (qmail 3939 invoked by uid 1010); 24 Jun 2005 09:36:31 +0300 Received: from apircalabu.dsd.ro (10.10.15.22) by mail.bitdefender.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 24 Jun 2005 09:36:31 +0300 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:45:34 +0300 From: Adi Pircalabu To: Thomas Hill Message-ID: <20050624094534.591838ce@apircalabu.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: <3a5db5ce05062320233037ff58@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a5db5ce05062306536c802319@mail.gmail.com> <20050623170127.71b85f1f@apircalabu.dsd.ro> <3a5db5ce05062320233037ff58@mail.gmail.com> Organization: BitDefender X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: 1.1.4 049000040111AAAAAAE X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender Qmail 1.6.2 on mail.bitdefender.com X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 / linux-opera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:44:05 -0000 Please Cc: to freebsd-questions@ also, since there could be some subscribers able to help you. Thank you. That being said: On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:23:41 -0400 Thomas Hill wrote: > linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_3 > linux-opera-8.01.20050615_2 Looks ok to me. You should have then a file named /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > > The other required packages are installed too. > > If I run "/usr/X11R6/bin/linux-opera" the followinig error message is > output -- /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: error while loading > shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such > file or directory. Did you enable Linux compatibility? (i.e linux_load="YES" in /boot/loader/conf) -- Adi Pircalabu (PGP Key ID 0x04329F5E) -- This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender. For more information please visit http://www.bitdefender.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 06:58:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FD016A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9570743D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:58:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5O6weld092755; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:58:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D1A7658D; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:58:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:58:40 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Chris Palm Message-ID: <20050624065840.GA83250@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Palm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42BBA457.9050601@global.t-bird.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BBA457.9050601@global.t-bird.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building applications on BSD software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:58:43 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:12:39PM -0700, Chris Palm wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I am writing a b-school paper on the use of open source software=20 > components and libraries used in and distributed with a company's=20 > applications, and the legal copyright and other business issues that aris= e. >=20 > What kinds of distribution requirements in terms of licensing would be=20 > in place around distributing one of BSD's libraries? If a company was to= =20 > want to leverage and distribute these libraries with its products, what= =20 > would that company have to do? Let me start by saying that IANAL. For stuff that comes under the revised BSD license, see http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html In short: - keep the copyright notice etc. in the code. - add a copy of the license to the distribution. GPL or LGPL stuff is different, see below. > Would you be willing to share a licensing agreement for BSD components? The BSD license _is_ the license you need, AFAIK. You have a valid copyright license as long as you comply with the terms of the license. > I found your legal page, but was unclear as to whether a third party=20 > developer would use the the GNU or not. If it's unclear, that's because the choice depends on what code you want to use. You have to comply with the licensing terms in any case. So if you want to incorporate GPL code in a product you want to distribute externally, you practically must license your own product under the GPL. See http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/COPYING If you want to link your product to an LGPL library ('mere aggregation' in terms of the LGPL), you can license your product as you please. See http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/COPYING.LIB BSD stuff is more or less 'no strings attached'. HTH, Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCu68gEnfvsMMhpyURAuqHAJ9jVCI/9LIKDZZKkCu0Wq4Qkb4C/gCcDiz+ GNaminQRD7qXLfoc2ro6S2E= =+zPp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 07:38:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D9C16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:38:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC8A43D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:38:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5O7dDb35208; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:39:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jeff MacDonald" , Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:38:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:38:16 -0000 What version of FreeBSD are you running? Is this on a clean system? And, did you cvsup the ports tree before you started building anything whatsoever? Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jeff MacDonald >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:49 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? > > >Maybe it's just me > >I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or >new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. > >I tried the linux version from ports, which is just a precompiled >version 1.0 it works great, only hitch is that Everytime i click my >icon to run linux-firefox it asks me which profile to use, since >default is already being used. > >I'm really loving haveing FreeBSD as a desktop, but this is a tad >frustrating, if anyone can shed some light that would be great. > >FreeBSD 5.4 on AMD XP 2600+ > >Jeff. >-- >Jeff MacDonald >http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 09:10:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F21516A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:10:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from prog@globalsystem.ru) Received: from mail.garnet.ru (mail.garnet.ru [195.209.63.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB9143D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from prog@globalsystem.ru) Received: from [192.168.0.20] (GlobalCD-242.garnet.ru [195.209.59.242]) by mail.garnet.ru (8.13.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id j5O9AB8I036238 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:10:11 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from prog@globalsystem.ru) Message-ID: <42BBCDA4.7090607@globalsystem.ru> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:08:52 +0400 From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=EB=C1=D2=D0=CF=D7_=E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA?= Organization: Globalsystem.ru User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Supporting Hardware RAID1 at Intel SRCS16 controller by FreeBSD 5.4 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:10:16 -0000 Hello. I'm using a pare of SATA Disks as RAID1 (Mirrored) Array on Intel SRCS16 controller. And I made this type of array in a BIOS of a controller. Then I had install a FreeBSD 5.4 Release I had not one disk (such ar0), but 2 different disks (such ad4 and ad6) . So If i will be use atacontrol programm to create and manage my array - will it be positioning as SOFTWARE or HARDWARE type of RAID1? AND where is the way to create and manage realy HARDWARE RAID1 on SRCS16 for using it with FreeBSD 5.4? The intel corp. support redirect me to FreeBSD Site with following notice : " Pleas note that FreeBSD* 5.4 has not been validated on the Intel(R) RAID Controller SRCS16 nor the Intel(R) Server Board SE7320VP2, because of this we do not have drivers, or best-known methods for supporting this Operating System. " is That realy thing.? I heared that drivers must be in box cd http://forum.sysadmins.ru/0/70092/?highlight=freebsd+raid E.Karpov. 2ol.laflaf.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 09:11:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2000816A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:11:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from militantjingoist@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B7943D1D for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from militantjingoist@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1068460nzp for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:11:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lxt0EVyHo9Tn+lsSw3NKnWgNcOCLahXkWSPsweq9GqPL2qo06j3oemZV+9yA8nkBC5EOUsz4+fot9vmEpAM+9dgtA8ERbZRKoHwvWQvqp/KoMfqLsv3xW9/u8UHrOmyr50s6rd7xvn6KcT8Ay144BoljF7hR1qxkYwrrSkcC9tI= Received: by 10.36.10.18 with SMTP id 18mr116946nzj; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? ([68.189.201.207]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 17sm2860548nzo.2005.06.24.02.11.49; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42BBCE35.5010905@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:11:17 -0500 From: Jim Haskell User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42BB5C26.7090702@gmail.com> <42BB7926.2060206@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <42BB7926.2060206@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help with 'make' failure while building custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:11:51 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Jim Haskell wrote: > >> I, a relatively newcomer to FreeBSD, am having trouble compiling my own >> kernel for my new FreeBSD box. According to the handbook, if 'make' >> fails (and /usr/sbin/config and make dep do not have problems,) I should >> seek the wisdom of those on this listserv. Attached is my kernel config. >> If any of you would be so kind as to take the time to look at my config >> and give me a suggestion, I would be grateful. >> >> Sincerely, >> Jim Haskell >> >> P.S.: Some notes about my system -- the target machine is a pIII 850 >> mhz (which I've positively identified as an i686 type), and the only >> network cards installed use the rl driver. >> >> ---- config file ---- >> # >> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 >> # >> > > > > Hello, Jim! > > IANAE, but I'm pretty sure that the last several lines of > output of the failed "make" command, and perhaps giving > the command that caused the failure, in addition to > your config file, would be Most Helpful(TM). > > Also, have you been received the error more than once, > and, if so, in the same place in the build, or at different > stages? > > Kevin Kinsey > Ah, yes, right. My apologizes. The offending lines from make: cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/altq -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I../../../contrib/pf -I../../../contrib/dev/ath -I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -ffreestanding -Werror ../../../i386/i386/locore.s ../../../i386/i386/locore.s: Assembler messages: ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:783: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:783: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:791: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:792: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:792: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:831: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:832: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:832: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:843: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:843: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:848: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:848: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:853: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:853: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:858: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:858: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:864: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:870: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:907: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:918: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:925: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shr' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:927: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:940: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `shl' *** Error code 1 Thanks, Jim Haskell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 09:18:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD51A16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:18:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6911C43D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:18:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sadashiv.linux@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so501781rna for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:18:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Lgl7iJZe6KbdcgQd8JeUCpYzivSLeZWWo6vgk4WCfVwMMJ16uBGZSggXDybr0/thtLosSunOim3JvVuxm9e6Bd84axlJKHvZQR96lLLYTSjX4oLXPVmE0Ykhp7OEq/eI7cG3e7XXZx/G0/G9QJ1DtuZZIki52oawH6qrNU4gJRE= Received: by 10.38.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr1259966rna; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.9.54 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:48:48 +0530 From: Sadashiv Kulthe To: Kevin Kinsey , fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42BADD75.7070103@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BAC2AE.4010501@daleco.biz> <42BADD75.7070103@daleco.biz> Cc: Subject: Re: how to install desired port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sadashiv Kulthe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:18:49 -0000 Hello, thank you for reply. I got now syslog as well as sysctl is there but they have problem... I thi= nk Can you tell what is the problem with my server using following output. I can not use make or install a port on it. -bash-2.05b# cd /usr/ports/ -bash-2.05b# cd graphics/png -bash: cd: cd: No such file or directory -bash-2.05b# make /usr/sbin/sysctl: not found "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 60: warning: "/usr/sbin/sysctl -n kern.osreldate" returned non-zero status =3D=3D=3D> accessibility =3D=3D=3D> accessibility/at-spi "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2039: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 460102 && ${PKGORIGIN} !=3D "sysutils/pkg_install") /usr/sbin/sysctl: not found "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2596: warning: "/usr/sbin/sysctl -n kern.argmax" returned non-zero status make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/accessibility. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports. -bash-2.05b# =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Also=20 following is the output of whereis and apropos -bash-2.05b# whereis sysctl Warning: couldn't stat file /usr/X11R6/man! sysctl: /usr/share/man/man8/sysctl.8.gz -bash-2.05b# apropos sysctl blackhole(4) - a sysctl(8) MIB for manipulating behaviour in respect of refused TCP or UDP connection attempts sysctl(3), sysctlbyname(3), sysctlnametomib(3) - get or set system informat= ion sysctl(8) - get or set kernel state sysctl.conf(5) - kernel state defaults sysctl_add_oid(9), sysctl_remove_oid(9) - runtime sysctl tree manipulation sysctl_ctx_init(9), sysctl_ctx_free(9), sysctl_ctx_entry_add(9), sysctl_ctx_entry_find(9), sysctl_ctx_entry_del(9) - sysctl context for managing dynamically created sysctl oids Sadashiv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 09:32:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DFE16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:32:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7D643D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:32:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCBC6108; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:32:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71082-02; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5092360D8; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:32:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42BBD33A.1000509@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:32:42 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.3.1 (20050509) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Cc: Jeff MacDonald , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:32:36 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > What version of FreeBSD are you running? Is this on a clean system? > > And, did you cvsup the ports tree before you started building anything > whatsoever? > > Ted > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jeff MacDonald >>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:49 AM >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? >> >> >>Maybe it's just me >> >>I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or >>new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. >> >>I tried the linux version from ports, which is just a precompiled >>version 1.0 it works great, only hitch is that Everytime i click my >>icon to run linux-firefox it asks me which profile to use, since >>default is already being used. >> >>I'm really loving haveing FreeBSD as a desktop, but this is a tad >>frustrating, if anyone can shed some light that would be great. >> >>FreeBSD 5.4 on AMD XP 2600+ >> >>Jeff. >>-- >>Jeff MacDonald >>http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca To correct the profile issue, remove the file lock in .thunderbird/(something).default/ -- Best regards, Chris The man who has no more problems is out of the game. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 09:38:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA43116A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:38:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79FF43D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:38:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O9bupN052136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:37:56 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id j5O9bnh8012244; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:37:49 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:37:49 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200506240937.j5O9bnh8012244@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: sadashiv.linux@gmail.com In-reply-to: (message from Sadashiv Kulthe on Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:48:48 +0530) References: <42BAC2AE.4010501@daleco.biz> <42BADD75.7070103@daleco.biz> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to install desired port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:38:40 -0000 -bash-2.05b# cd /usr/ports/ -bash-2.05b# cd graphics/png -bash: cd: cd: No such file or directory The problem is there. Try: cd /usr/ports/graphics/png There may be a stranger character on your second line Any way you are not in the right directory when you try the command "make" Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 09:51:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EF216A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mirya@matrix.kiev.ua) Received: from gw.matrix.kiev.ua (gw.matrix.kiev.ua [213.159.235.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3307043D5F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mirya@matrix.kiev.ua) Received: by gw.matrix.kiev.ua (Postfix, from userid 426) id B10BCC4E4D; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:50:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (bt2.matrix.kiev.ua [192.168.0.27]) by gw.matrix.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F3CC4E40 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:50:51 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42BBD796.1010702@matrix.kiev.ua> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:51:18 +0300 From: Kyryll A Mirnenko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on gw.matrix.kiev.ua X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Subject: Re: ruby18 build err X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mirya@matrix.kiev.ua List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:05 -0000 Got the same problem as this (from archives): > Mon Apr 11, Gary Kline kline at tao.thought.org wrote: > > I need some insight here. The following "[BUG]" with ./lib/mkmf.rb is > causing the latest ruby18 to not build; I think this causes the > latest gnome_update script to fault. Does anybody know why mkmf.rb > is segv'ing here and how to resolve this problem? > > -- > Gary Kline kline at thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix > > [snip] > > cc -O2 -pipe -fschedule-insns2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -fPIC -I. -I. -c dmyext.c > ar rcu libruby18-static.a array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o dir.o dln.o enum.o error.o eval.o > file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o numeric.o object.o pack.o parse.o process.o > prec.o random.o range.o re.o regex.o ruby.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o string.o struct.o time.o > util.o variable.o version.o dmyext.o > cc -O2 -pipe -fschedule-insns2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -fPIC -I. -I. -c main.c > cc -O2 -pipe -fschedule-insns2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -fPIC -rpath=/usr/local/lib > -rdynamic main.o dmyext.o libruby18-static.a -lcrypt -lm -pthread -o miniruby > cc -shared -Wl,-soname,libruby18.so.18 array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o dir.o dln.o enum.o > error.o eval.o file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o numeric.o object.o pack.o > parse.o process.o prec.o random.o range.o re.o regex.o ruby.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o > string.o struct.o time.o util.o variable.o version.o dmyext.o -lcrypt -lm -pthread -o > libruby18.so.18 > ./lib/mkmf.rb:314: [BUG] Segmentation fault > ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [i386-freebsd5] > > Abort trap (core dumped) > *** Error code 134 If someone has any information about solving it, plz reply From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 10:25:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEE716A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:25:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfma629@student.liu.se) Received: from xanadu.unit.liu.se (xanadu.unit.liu.se [130.236.230.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3809A43D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:25:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfma629@student.liu.se) Received: by xanadu.unit.liu.se (Postfix, from userid 102) id D67B74D681; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:25:51 +0200 (MEST) Received: from liu.se (avalon.unit.liu.se [130.236.230.138]) by xanadu.unit.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BD84D64E for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:25:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [81.94.82.239] by qom.unit.liu.se (mshttpd); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:25:49 +0200 From: Ulf Magnusson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <5675255661ae.5661ae567525@liu.se> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:25:49 +0200 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.05 (built Mar 3 2005) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4-liu_20050621_1634 (2005-06-05) on themis.unit.liu.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, LIU_FROM_MATCHES_LIUSTUDENT autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4-liu_20050621_1634 Subject: Re: NAT router confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:25:53 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael H. Semcheski" Date: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:46 am Subject: Re: NAT router confusion > On Thursday 23 June 2005 07:43 pm, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > > Is this router really some switch/router hybrid? Or..? Bleh, someone > > please sort this out for me. I realize this isn't strictly > > FreeBSD-related, but I simply couldn't think of a better place to > pick> brains, so I hope I'll be excused :) > > It is a switch / router hybrid. If the traffic is going to an > address on the > same network, its a switch. If the traffic is going to an address > on a > different network, its a router. > > If you understand that concept, then you should have a pretty good > idea of how > the system works. > > I do not have a complete enough understanding of IP networks to > explain this > in specific detail. I think the key is that the computer > generating the > traffic looks at the netmask for the sending interface (eg, > 255.255.255.0) > and uses this to determine if the endpoint of the traffic is on the > same > network or not. If it is, it sends the traffic directly to the > host. If it > is on a different network, it forwards the traffic to the gateway > address. > Mike Thanks, I think I understand how it works now. I guess it's basically like an ordinary router that pretends it's a switch for all addresses that appear on the same local network. It looks at the destination address in IP packets and the address of the sending system and goes into switch mode if they both appear on the same subnet (which is pretty much verbatim what you said, when I think about it). I'll throw another short question in the mix while I'm at it.. perhaps I should rename the thread "Switching/routing questions from a curious networking newbie" :-) Do switches gain anything by having full-duplex connections to hubs? I understand there must be a performance benefit when you connect a host directly to a switch, but won't the half-duplex connections of the hosts to the hub become a bottleneck? Ulf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 10:49:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2C416A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:49:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sineathj1@citadel.edu) Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B87643D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:49:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sineathj1@citadel.edu) Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.54.138]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624104943.PRCF1983.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:49:43 -0400 Received: from GARUDA ([65.12.54.138]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id <20050624104942.XIMG8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@GARUDA>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:49:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c578aa$6d5cf830$0463a8c0@GARUDA> From: "James Bowman Sineath, III" To: "Ulf Magnusson" , References: <5675255661ae.5661ae567525@liu.se> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:49:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: Subject: Re: NAT router confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:49:44 -0000 My understanding is that the netmask (255.255.255.0 as you put it) is only to determine how much of the IP address is used for the subnet address. I'm a newb with this as well, so please, someone correct me if i'm wrong. If your IP is 192.168.1.10 and your netmask is 255.255.255.0, then only the last 8 bits of your IP (the last .10) is usable for a specific host on the network and the first 24 bits are used for the network address and subnet address. In binary: 11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000 would be your netmask and only the trailing 0's can be used for a host address. This could also be expressed as 192.168.1.0/24 using CIDR. Let me try to give you another example: if your IP range was 192.168.99.0 to 192.168.99.255 and netmask was 255.255.255.254 then, in binary, the netmask would look like this: 1111111.11111111.11111111.11100000 Being that you are using 192.168.99.0 as the network address, the first three 1's in the last 8 bits of the netmask would be your subnet addresses. So you could use.192.168.99.32, *.64, *.96, *.128, *.160 and *.192 for subnet addresses and the IPs between all of those (except the last IP, so you can only assign 30 per subnet since the last IP is used for broadcast) can be assigned to hosts. Hopefully that (correctly) clears up any confusion involving subnets and netmasks. Like I said, I'm new at as well, so please correct me if I am wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ulf Magnusson" To: Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:25 AM Subject: Re: NAT router confusion > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael H. Semcheski" > Date: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:46 am > Subject: Re: NAT router confusion >> On Thursday 23 June 2005 07:43 pm, Ulf Magnusson wrote: >> > Is this router really some switch/router hybrid? Or..? Bleh, someone >> > please sort this out for me. I realize this isn't strictly >> > FreeBSD-related, but I simply couldn't think of a better place to >> pick> brains, so I hope I'll be excused :) >> >> It is a switch / router hybrid. If the traffic is going to an >> address on the >> same network, its a switch. If the traffic is going to an address >> on a >> different network, its a router. >> >> If you understand that concept, then you should have a pretty good >> idea of how >> the system works. >> >> I do not have a complete enough understanding of IP networks to >> explain this >> in specific detail. I think the key is that the computer >> generating the >> traffic looks at the netmask for the sending interface (eg, >> 255.255.255.0) >> and uses this to determine if the endpoint of the traffic is on the >> same >> network or not. If it is, it sends the traffic directly to the >> host. If it >> is on a different network, it forwards the traffic to the gateway >> address. >> Mike > > Thanks, I think I understand how it works now. I guess it's basically > like an ordinary router that pretends it's a switch for all addresses > that appear on the same local network. It looks at the destination > address in IP packets and the address of the sending system and goes > into switch mode if they both appear on the same subnet (which is pretty > much verbatim what you said, when I think about it). > > I'll throw another short question in the mix while I'm at it.. perhaps I > should rename the thread "Switching/routing questions from a curious > networking newbie" :-) > Do switches gain anything by having full-duplex connections to hubs? I > understand there must be a performance benefit when you connect a host > directly to a switch, but won't the half-duplex connections of the hosts > to the hub become a bottleneck? > > Ulf > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 11:06:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC4D16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:06:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-02.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F8AA43D58 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:06:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 2506 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2005 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (202.161.9.197) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 24 Jun 2005 11:06:41 -0000 From: Warren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:05:57 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506242105.57896.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:06:47 -0000 ln -s /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/xf86drmRandom.c xf86drmRandom.c rm -f xf86drmSL.c ln -s /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/xf86drmSL.c xf86drmSL.c make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/lib/GL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 11:12:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C569416A41C; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2866143D1D; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:12:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5OBC6aK012826; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:42:07 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:41:50 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506242105.57896.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200506242105.57896.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1623648.5dqn8qzDWV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506242042.02597.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Warren , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:12:12 -0000 --nextPart1623648.5dqn8qzDWV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:35, Warren wrote: > ln > -s > /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su= pp >ort/linux/drm/xf86drmRandom.c xf86drmRandom.c > rm -f xf86drmSL.c > ln > -s > /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su= pp >ort/linux/drm/xf86drmSL.c xf86drmSL.c > make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/lib/GL. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. What commanad did you run? What version of FreeBSD are you running? When did you last cvsup your ports tree? Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1623648.5dqn8qzDWV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCu+qC5ZPcIHs/zowRAijwAJ4s+pdCWeIhLUhQ5rYxAESWcSEzvQCePGRn WiyaEjH9fc70gHhDU2jt9kA= =NXVf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1623648.5dqn8qzDWV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 11:18:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB95516A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:18:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-06.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13DA343D1D for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:18:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 27174 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2005 11:18:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (202.161.9.197) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 24 Jun 2005 11:18:06 -0000 From: Warren To: "Daniel O'Connor" Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:17:28 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506242105.57896.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <200506242042.02597.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200506242042.02597.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506242117.29688.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:18:10 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 9:11 pm, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:35, Warren wrote: > > ln > > -s > > /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su > >pp ort/linux/drm/xf86drmRandom.c xf86drmRandom.c > > rm -f xf86drmSL.c > > ln > > -s > > /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su > >pp ort/linux/drm/xf86drmSL.c xf86drmSL.c > > make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/lib/GL. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. > > What commanad did you run? portupgrade -aDk -m BATCH=yes > What version of FreeBSD are you running? 5.4-STABLE > When did you last cvsup your ports tree? Just before doing PortUpgrade before sending the 1st email > Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? cant say as i did. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 11:33:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13C116A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:33:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C5543D5C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:33:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j5OBXaT3056044 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:33:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200506241133.j5OBXaT3056044@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:33:36 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Virtual Interfaces and Subnet Masks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:33:37 -0000 "Daniel Marsh" writes: >Why don't you just setup an IP alias for the fxp0 interface? > >ie: >ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 192.168.1.7" Thank you. that both validates some of what I did, but raises new questions. Originally, I tried to bring up a second Ethernet card which is on the system in question and which I thought we would use if we ever had to. This had worked once before when the dead system we were replacing was on a different network and I just assumed it would work on the same network. Big mistake! After discovering the hard way about conflicting instances of the same subnetmask and getting a bit nervous because we were still down on the interface we needed most, I tried bringing up fxp1 as follows: ifconfig fxp1 192.168.1.1 This worked, but I soon realized that ifconfig gave it a default mask of 255.255.255.0 which is wrong for that network. I then tried the alias for fxp0 exactly as you indicated and got it but the packets going out still had a 255.255.255.0 mask. I ended up, somehow, with that bad mask on both the primary interface and the alias after trying to start over with ifconfig. if config -alias ifconfig fxp0 inet 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.252.0 ifconfig fxp0 alias 192.168.1.1 I thought of bringing fxp0 down first but was doing all of this remotely from home and was concerned that I'd loose the system completely and it would be some minutes before one of us could physically go there and take control. We or at least I don't do this very thing nearly often enough because things under FreeBSD and Linux just don't break that often and it is difficult to duplicate every possible permutation of trouble meaning that sometimes, one gets nasty surprises. While not laughing at what happened too hard, can you think of how I ended up with the bad mask that wouldn't go away? Many thanks. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 12:09:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331E616A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:09:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.koeller@uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from smtp-relay2.uni-bielefeld.de (smtp-relay2.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.4.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AD643D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:09:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.koeller@uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de by mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.06 (built Mar 28 2005)) id <0IIL00M048GKL2@mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:09:56 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rayadm.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de ([129.70.202.15]) by mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.06 (built Mar 28 2005)) with ESMTPP id <0IIL00I348GJ7J@mail2.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:09:55 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rayadm.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (lkoeller@localhost) by rayadm.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j5OC9sS11714; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:09:55 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:09:54 +0200 From: Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6ller?= X-Face: eCcoCV}FjV*O{6>[1$XP/e%]TJhEw2MF33dFh)^HM7Gfd=[/(4+0a$~ MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: X-UniBi-Spam-Level: , 7% X-UniBi-Spam-Rules: __C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0 X-UniBi-Deliver: Tag X-UniBi-EnvFrom: lars.koeller@uni-bielefeld.de X-UniBi-EnvTo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.24.8, vscan4.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de Cc: Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6ller?= Subject: Sporadical NFS errors with NetApp backend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:09:59 -0000 -------- Hallo, I'm a FreeBSD user for years with machines in production since V2.X. At the moment I have a really strange problem in our environment. - NetApp Cluster NFS file server - HPUX-11, Solaris-8, FreeBSD-4.11 Clients - 60000 Virus/Spam scans a day, spread over 5 different FreeBSD Machine= s, two different hardware bases, 1GBit Network A problem occurs with the Sophos PMX (PureMessage Anti-Spam/Anti-Virus) Application. 1-3 times a day the following happens: - pmx_log:3 2005-06-23T12:26:58 [36968,milter] pmx_file(): = Can't append message info to '/usr/local/pmx4/var/qdir/tmp/1119522418= -36968:135299072-ZN0IIE00EX1IKSAE.00-738-vscan1.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de': Ba= d file descriptor at /usr/local/pmx4/lib/site_perl/5.6.1/PureMessage/Mess= ageFile.pm line 124. - /usr/local/pmx4/var is located on the NetApp Filer (NFSv3) - Line 124 referenced above looks like (close($f)): sub make { my $class =3D shift; my $fname =3D shift; my $minfo =3D @_ =3D=3D 1 ? shift : do { require PureMessage::MessageInfo; PureMessage::MessageInfo->new(@_); }; open(my $f, ">>", $fname) || die "Can't append to '$fname': $!\n"; print $f _minfo_block($minfo); close($f) || die "Can't append message info to '$fname': $!"; 1; } - BUT: The message-info is absolutely correct appended! This does not occur if I move /usr/local/pmx4/var on a local disk. No errors in any logfile! No problems with other Servers! Any ideas? Is there a kernel NFS or interoperability problem with the = NetApp Filer. How can I debug this on FreeBSD? Best regards Lars -- = Lars K=F6ller \ Raum : V0-318 (Tel: 4964, FAX: 154964) Leitung Systeme \ E-Mail : Lars.Koeller@Uni-Bielefeld.DE u. Serverdienste \ PGP-Key: http://www.uk.pgp.net/pgpnet/wwwkeys.html ---------- FreeBSD, what else? ---- http://www.de.freebsd.org --------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 12:46:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0A216A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:46:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DC043D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:46:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so1412000wri for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:46:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=avbeMvYNawC2zqBXmB3ha42Ah5opocPyYdcjBsjA9+CEpAIyWw8Ayk7ystpiVNKdBBT+bm/i0MOtFhuE83z5TqjIPQsQ4GUoQTeN+tEp7li/6wb540GbjlV3D7Yj+M2LgtW0Do8YZEKLKIcWNr33IZGhx4er7FxwM6WL6jDaK7U= Received: by 10.54.31.70 with SMTP id e70mr1811766wre; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.55 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:46:34 -0400 From: Jeff MacDonald To: racerx@makeworld.com In-Reply-To: <42BBD33A.1000509@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BBD33A.1000509@makeworld.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff MacDonald List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:46:35 -0000 Hi, Thanks for the help folks. I did the unthinkable and put xp back on ;) I have a bsd server or 4 in my house so i'll let them do what they do, and let xp do what it does. Konqueror : No. Can't. It doesn't support all JS and we're a web shop. You can argue with me "yes it does" but i'll say "no it doesn't, i've seen first hand" Fresh BSD System : 5.4 - Yup. did a cvsup, then install firefox , then portupgrade Re profile issue : I wasn't running thunderbird, maybe you meant .mozilla RW: glad to hear it works for you, that's no help to me tho. Eric : wasn't memory usage, i have a gig of ram and the system was not being heavily taxed at all. Thing is, I'm a perl programmer in a web-app shop. So using the opposite of what most of my clients use, I guess wasn't that great of a plan. Maybe some day they'll release a WinXP with FreeBSD running the underbelly. HA ;) Thanks tho guys.=20 Jeff. On 6/24/05, Chris wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > What version of FreeBSD are you running? Is this on a clean system? > > > > And, did you cvsup the ports tree before you started building anything > > whatsoever? > > > > Ted > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jeff MacDonald > >>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:49 AM > >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>Subject: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? > >> > >> > >>Maybe it's just me > >> > >>I'm running the firefox 1.0.4 from ports. When I open new tabs up, or > >>new windows the whole jobby tends to freeze up on me pretty hard. > >> > >>I tried the linux version from ports, which is just a precompiled > >>version 1.0 it works great, only hitch is that Everytime i click my > >>icon to run linux-firefox it asks me which profile to use, since > >>default is already being used. > >> > >>I'm really loving haveing FreeBSD as a desktop, but this is a tad > >>frustrating, if anyone can shed some light that would be great. > >> > >>FreeBSD 5.4 on AMD XP 2600+ > >> > >>Jeff. > >>-- > >>Jeff MacDonald > >>http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca >=20 > To correct the profile issue, remove the file lock in > .thunderbird/(something).default/ >=20 > -- > Best regards, > Chris >=20 > The man who has no more problems is out of the game. >=20 --=20 Jeff MacDonald http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:01:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CAF16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:01:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from joseph.day-light.net (gabriel.day-light.net [209.145.160.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E47743D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:01:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from w1 (unknown [10.1.5.36]) by joseph.day-light.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CAE574F40B; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:01:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Brooks" To: "Martin McCormick" , Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:01:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200506241133.j5OBXaT3056044@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Cc: Subject: RE: Virtual Interfaces and Subnet Masks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: john@day-light.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:01:02 -0000 it's my understanding that when you add an alias to an interface AND that alias is within the same network as the main address on the interface that it should be set with a /32 bit netmask. for example: ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 192.168.1.7 netmask 255.255.255.255" IF the address is in a DIFFERENT network then the netmask should reflect that network. ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.1.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0" HTH (ps - make sure your alias numbering is numerically sequential without gaps) -- John Brooks john@day-light.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Martin > McCormick > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:34 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Virtual Interfaces and Subnet Masks > > > "Daniel Marsh" writes: > >Why don't you just setup an IP alias for the fxp0 interface? > > > >ie: > >ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 192.168.1.7" > > Thank you. that both validates some of what I did, but raises > new questions. Originally, I tried to bring up a second Ethernet card > which is on the system in question and which I thought we would use if > we ever had to. This had worked once before when the dead system we > were replacing was on a different network and I just assumed it would > work on the same network. Big mistake! > > After discovering the hard way about conflicting instances of > the same subnetmask and getting a bit nervous because we were still > down on the interface we needed most, I tried bringing up fxp1 as > follows: > > ifconfig fxp1 192.168.1.1 > > This worked, but I soon realized that ifconfig gave it a default mask of > 255.255.255.0 which is wrong for that network. > > I then tried the alias for fxp0 exactly as you indicated and > got it but the packets going out still had a 255.255.255.0 mask. I > ended up, somehow, with that bad mask on both the primary interface > and the alias after trying to start over with ifconfig. > > if config -alias > ifconfig fxp0 inet 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.252.0 > ifconfig fxp0 alias 192.168.1.1 > > I thought of bringing fxp0 down first but was doing all of this > remotely from home and was concerned that I'd loose the system > completely and it would be some minutes before one of us could > physically go there and take control. > > We or at least I don't do this very thing nearly often enough > because things under FreeBSD and Linux just don't break that often and > it is difficult to duplicate every possible permutation of trouble > meaning that sometimes, one gets nasty surprises. > > While not laughing at what happened too hard, can you think of > how I ended up with the bad mask that wouldn't go away? Many thanks. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:07:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8243616A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:07:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A11343D1D for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:07:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3959660D8; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:07:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72230-03; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:07:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.139] (laptop.makeworld.com [216.201.118.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531A960D4; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:07:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42BC05A4.9060809@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:07:48 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff MacDonald References: <42BBD33A.1000509@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.3.1 (20050509) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Does Firefox 1.0.4 suck, or is it just me ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:07:53 -0000 Jeff MacDonald wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the help folks. I did the unthinkable and put xp back on ;) > I have a bsd server or 4 in my house so i'll let them do what they do, > and let xp do what it does. > > Konqueror : No. Can't. It doesn't support all JS and we're a web shop. > You can argue with me "yes it does" but i'll say "no it doesn't, i've > seen first hand" > > Fresh BSD System : 5.4 - Yup. did a cvsup, then install firefox , then > portupgrade > > Re profile issue : I wasn't running thunderbird, maybe you meant .mozilla > > RW: glad to hear it works for you, that's no help to me tho. > > Eric : wasn't memory usage, i have a gig of ram and the system was not > being heavily taxed at all. > > Thing is, I'm a perl programmer in a web-app shop. So using the > opposite of what most of my clients use, I guess wasn't that great of > a plan. Maybe some day they'll release a WinXP with FreeBSD running > the underbelly. HA ;) > > Thanks tho guys. > > Jeff. > Jeff - Sorry, my mistake. However, the same does hold true. No doubt you figured that anyways. Sorry to see that happen. I will agree on the js/java issue. It's never worked for me neither. When I happen to run across a site the uses tings of that nature, I skip it. As for you - so goes the saying, When in Rome... At least you gave it a good go at it. That's all anyone can ask. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:24:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE1016A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B1943D1F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:24:50 +0100 Message-ID: <42BC0978.2020609@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:24:08 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe References: <20050623182407.976.qmail@web41005.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050623182407.976.qmail@web41005.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2005 13:24:50.0474 (UTC) FILETIME=[196090A0:01C578C0] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP and networking under FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:11 -0000 Joe wrote: >Okay, I've been looking and looking for duplicate natd's. > >I have the /etc/rc.conf which has natd stuff below, and the only >other place I see it is in ipfw. > >I was able to change my rc and use /etc/rc.d/natd start and that >works. Which is better as it does not require me to reload my >firewall rules. > >I still don't know why natd refuses to start the first time when >called from ipfw. > > If I understand the boot procedure correctly, natd ought to be started as part of the /etc/rc.d/ipfw and that just calls "/etc/rc.d/natd start" which is what you are typing later from the command line with success, so why it fails at boot, I really don't know at this point. The "cannot bind to divert socket" error I thought could happen if a) you weren't root (seems unlikely from bootup) or b) something had already bound the socket. After your machine boots, what does ps uagxww | egrep natd show? Google also found this: >- In FreeBSD, IPDIVERT must be enabled at compile time. > I guess your kernel has this option, or natd would never have worked. what ifconfig lines do you have in /etc.rc.conf egrep ifconfig /etc/rc.conf >I have no rc.conf.local > > Not too surprising. It could be used under 4.X as a second level to rc.conf, but exists nowadays for backwards compatibility and AFAIK isn't created by anything. As a more drastic attempt at a solution, could you try upgrading to 5.4? It has numerous improvements over 5.3, which was never a production release. Maybe some ordering problems was fixed. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:25:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546A516A41F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from free.bsd@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2F8743D55 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from free.bsd@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 14785 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jun 2005 13:25:32 -0000 Received: from 141.20.194.254 by www43.gmx.net with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:25:32 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:25:32 +0200 (MEST) From: "freebsd_daemon" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated: #20105305 Message-ID: <6274.1119619532@www43.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: MS Project equivalent for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:34 -0000 dear list, i would like to know if there is a MS Project equivalent that runs on FreeBSD? TIA zheyu -- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail gratis + 3 Ausgaben stern gratis ++ Jetzt anmelden & testen ++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:33:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B41316A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cvkhanh@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78F043D1D for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:33:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cvkhanh@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so550486rna for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=N7YfCur1fZcGuIHW9cCaV79skp1XoXD2MPc2fMpbmJc5XfNBzX03cL/QC+6+Zg1mdRNUVcSfhmXt16oag7MJVgN92+rfxFxk33B2Jl/p3WHbreqvjjngju3UrYtnUJJ2dQ1InZv7TxrV31Zf1a+874lb9lPZ4VuKVPbSfqMcJUQ= Received: by 10.38.207.73 with SMTP id e73mr1332878rng; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.73.24 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5fd642fc05062406331e283ffe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:33:12 +0700 From: Khanh Cao Van To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: firewall on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Khanh Cao Van List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:33:13 -0000 I'm going to learn about the freebsd firewall . In the handbook list some of them and I could not find out what is the best . So I decided to post here hoping to gain some of your opinion and experience . I would like to know what firewall was the most wanted ? I have used Linux several months and IP tables was a good statefull firewall . What about in freeBSD ? Thank for reading :) --=20 ---------------------------------- Cao Van Khanh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:33:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07E416A41C; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:33:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D38B43D1D; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:33:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5ODXhJH013601; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:03:43 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Warren Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:02:57 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506242105.57896.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <200506242042.02597.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200506242117.29688.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200506242117.29688.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1379865.RmspeCIFRN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506242303.08320.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:33:46 -0000 --nextPart1379865.RmspeCIFRN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:47, Warren wrote: > Just before doing PortUpgrade before sending the 1st email > > > Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? > > cant say as i did. Well that was silly.. Not that I think there is a specific entry in this case but it is a good ha= bit=20 to get in to.. Do you have the kernel source installed? I think you may need that to build= =20 the xfree86-dri port (I don't know why it doesn't check) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1379865.RmspeCIFRN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCvAuU5ZPcIHs/zowRAjyyAJ9hT8uEEzvwdzqeeciiKOvbtiEfygCghZEf /t19Xp3VTz/j6K31jO+iMuA= =XUQr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1379865.RmspeCIFRN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:40:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A838216A41C; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:40:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F8343D49; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:40:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5ODdvG1004004; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:40:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <42BC0C9E.10302@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:37:34 -0500 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd_daemon References: <6274.1119619532@www43.gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <6274.1119619532@www43.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Project equivalent for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:40:04 -0000 freebsd_daemon wrote: > dear list, > > i would like to know if there is a MS Project equivalent that runs on > FreeBSD? Though not as fully featured (or if you prefer, "bloated" ;), Imendio Planner (http://planner.imendio.org/) is pretty good for basic Gantt charts and resource allocation planning. Planner is easily installed as part of the gnome2-office metaport, or I'm pretty sure that you can install it separately. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:40:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D8916A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:40:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from web1.nidhog.com (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E9243D55 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:40:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from blacksea.nedyah.org (semcheski.squirrelhill.nidhog.net [66.207.143.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by web1.nidhog.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5ODeHrU031071 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:40:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) From: "Michael H. Semcheski" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:31:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <5675255661ae.5661ae567525@liu.se> In-Reply-To: <5675255661ae.5661ae567525@liu.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506240931.18594.lists@immuneit.com> X-Greylist: Recipient e-mail whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: NAT router confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:40:27 -0000 On Friday 24 June 2005 06:25 am, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > Thanks, I think I understand how it works now. I guess it's basically > like an ordinary router that pretends it's a switch for all addresses > that appear on the same local network. It looks at the destination > address in IP packets and the address of the sending system and goes > into switch mode if they both appear on the same subnet (which is pretty > much verbatim what you said, when I think about it). Its my understanding, and it is somewhat limited, that the host that is generating the traffic is really the one that determines whether the traffic needs to leave the network or not. The router functionality only kicks in if a packet is sent to the gateway (think of the gateway as another host on the network) and the destination is outside of the network. > Do switches gain anything by having full-duplex connections to hubs? I > understand there must be a performance benefit when you connect a host > directly to a switch, but won't the half-duplex connections of the hosts > to the hub become a bottleneck? By this question I'm a little confused. Switches are devices that allow a bunch of connections, and packets are routed from one interface to another within the switch. A hub is a device that allows a bunch of connections, and packets are more or less broadcast to every other interface on the hub. If you go to your local computer store, you will not be able to buy a hub. Maybe there are hubs sold for specific legacy applications I don't know about, but in the consumer market, they have not sold hubs in at least 5 years. I personally have never setup a hub, so I don't know whether there is something special about them that makes them half-duplex only. I do know that many ethernet flavors do not autonegotiate as well as we would hope. If you have a 100Mb half-duplex connection from a FreeBSD host to another host, try "ifconfig fxp0 media 100baseTX media-opt full-duplex", which, assuming your NIC is fxp0 and my syntax isn't too rusty, will force the device into full-duplex mode. To connect to switches that do not autonegotiate correctly, one thing you can do is setup a FreeBSD host with two NIC's. Plug one switch into each NIC, and force each NIC to the right media type. Set up a bridge on the FreeBSD host, and voila, you have solved the duplex problem. We have this problem at work in some places. A switch we want to use does not autonegotiate full-duplex with the switch computing services provides. So, put a bridge in between and remove autonegotiation. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 13:42:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3E616A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkyaqoob2005@yahoo.com) Received: from web32013.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32013.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C50943D58 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkyaqoob2005@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 42478 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2005 13:42:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ayfblClt4Gp4FxK/DZULdc505GMnB+brh52DAYjLiCh0IOxwYRx1Ogza/uQPqiTl0zXMKc4ss8t+Gpkf15t9jXuPILEYD2BXj9kZpim5uP8+9BfucmDNcYkjFWwSyq20Jl0W5C7ElvKPA3VoCgm/yqAPeX0ThVPvTzuLIRDAanI= ; Message-ID: <20050624134244.42476.qmail@web32013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.141.239.6] by web32013.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:42:44 PDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob To: courier-imap@lists.sourceforge.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, B.Candler@pobox.com Subject: courier-imap authenticate mysqk user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:42:45 -0000 Dear Sir, I am working on postfix Mailserver at freebsd.and install the courier Imap and courier-authlib-mysql .and also Configuration the setting of courier-imap with mysql.When i authenticate the mysql pop user with courier-imap.Following error message occour. Part of my maillog: Jun 24 22:44:44 post-4 authdaemond.mysql: modules="authmysql", daemons=5 Jun 24 22:48:20 post-4 authdaemond.mysql: modules="authmysql", daemons=5 Jun 24 22:48:43 post-4 pop3d: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::1] Jun 24 22:58:21 post-4 pop3d: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::1] Define the configuration setting in detail for courier imap given below authdaemonrc ========= authmodulelist="authmysql" daemons=5 version="" -------------------------------------------------------- authmysqlr ========== MYSQL_SERVER 127.0.0.1 MYSQL_USERNAME vmailuser MYSQL_PASSWORD vmailuser MYSQL_PORT 3306 MYSQL_OPT 0 MYSQL_DATABASE provider MYSQL_USER_TABLE users MYSQL_CRYPT_PWFIELD crypt MYSQL_CLEAR_PWFIELD password MYSQL_UID_FIELD uid MYSQL_GID_FIELD gid MYSQL_LOGIN_FIELD email MYSQL_HOME_FIELD homedir MYSQL_NAME_FIELD name MYSQL_MAILDIR_FIELD maildir +.......................................... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How can i authenticate the mysql user by using courier-imap.? Hope somebody here can help? Best Regards, Muhammad kashif __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 14:16:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8A316A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.res.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2E943D1F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:16:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from email.polands.org (fs [172.16.1.8]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5OEGCJB083116; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:16:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 209.103.215.99 (proxying for 209.103.215.99) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:16:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <60353.209.103.215.99.1119622572.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <6274.1119619532@www43.gmx.net> References: <6274.1119619532@www43.gmx.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:16:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Doug Poland" To: "freebsd_daemon" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Project equivalent for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:16:22 -0000 On Fri, June 24, 2005 8:25, freebsd_daemon said: > > i would like to know if there is a MS Project equivalent that runs on > FreeBSD? > Not sure if a web-based solution is what you're looking for, but, check out http://www.dotproject.net/ -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 14:16:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FF116A422 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:16:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79E243D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C6227A0; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bloodhound.noc.clara.net (bloodhound.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FE595; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:16:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Candler To: Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:16:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050624134244.42476.qmail@web32013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050624134244.42476.qmail@web32013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506241516.59227.B.Candler@pobox.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, courier-imap@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: courier-imap authenticate mysqk user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:16:53 -0000 On Friday 24 June 2005 14:42, Muhammad Kashif Yaqoob wrote: > I am working on postfix Mailserver at freebsd.and install the courier Imap > and courier-authlib-mysql .and also Configuration the setting of > courier-imap with mysql.When i authenticate the mysql pop user with > courier-imap.Following error message occour. > > Part of my maillog: > > Jun 24 22:44:44 post-4 authdaemond.mysql: modules="authmysql", daemons=5 > Jun 24 22:48:20 post-4 authdaemond.mysql: modules="authmysql", daemons=5 > Jun 24 22:48:43 post-4 pop3d: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::1] > Jun 24 22:58:21 post-4 pop3d: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::1] You don't say what version of courier-imap you are using, but from those log messages I think it is 3.x or older. You should install 4.x with courier-authlib; it gives much better debugging. Full details of how to debug authentication problems with courier-authilb are in http://www.courier-mta.org/authlib/README.authdebug.html Turning on debugging will show you exactly what SQL queries are being sent to the database, for example. Brian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 14:19:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D2716A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:19:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53406.mail.yahoo.com (web53406.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 055D443D1F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:19:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 6927 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2005 14:19:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bPIIjGY+iV5TK7f65LIb8gg4jEGbNz8GB2M/rLXkAPvmudt0eOdcRNh1Idg04MujaC+/BB0CYcHp6kXvHJvSiDBtbC4GPjcddLtubhnYwEWQgdsvAJhf9AOth74e0suZp3cVlR/uPoyoUkrp01MMueL2wv3iNtZRWTQA8/jlRpo= ; Message-ID: <20050624141901.6925.qmail@web53406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.65.133.5] by web53406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:19:00 PDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Your Name To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Printing to OSX shared printer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:19:02 -0000 i have CUPS set up on my FreeBSD 4.11 box, but i've never used it (i've never printed at all from this machine). i want to bring this computer into a home network with Macs running OSX. if you bring a Mac into this network, it sees all the printers that are avaibale and you can select one to print to, andit just works. is there a way to do this with CUPS, or do i have to figure out the netowrk address of the shared printer and all that hard stuff? i'm running GNOME also--is there any printer utility with that? (i dont see one). i'm looking for the simplest answer to printing from this, not trying to do anything fancy. Thanks! Jen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 14:31:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2943F16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:31:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9B043D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:31:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050624143122.ZVZK19267.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:31:22 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Khanh Cao Van" , "freebsd-questions" Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:31:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5fd642fc05062406331e283ffe@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:31:26 -0000 Which firewall you select to use should be based on your level of understanding of how information is moved across the internet. Ipfilter is best suited for people who are just learning about firewalling. PF is a little more automated and the rules are very close to IPF's. IPFW is for the advanced firewall users who have expert understanding of the internet. All 3 firewalls support stateful rules and are available in the 5.4 release. Best advice is start with Ipfilter and when you find out that you have needs which are not met by Ipfilter then move over to IPFW. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Khanh Cao Van Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:33 AM To: freebsd-questions Subject: firewall on freebsd I'm going to learn about the freebsd firewall . In the handbook list some of them and I could not find out what is the best . So I decided to post here hoping to gain some of your opinion and experience . I would like to know what firewall was the most wanted ? I have used Linux several months and IP tables was a good statefull firewall . What about in freeBSD ? Thank for reading :) -- ---------------------------------- Cao Van Khanh _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 14:58:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9E116A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:58:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E787B43D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:58:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2430C2FB for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:59:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:59:10 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <5fd642fc05062406331e283ffe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5fd642fc05062406331e283ffe@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Subject: Re: firewall on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:58:46 -0000 On June 24, 2005 09:33 am, Khanh Cao Van wrote: > I'm going to learn about the freebsd firewall . In the handbook list > some of them and I could not find out what is the best . So I decided > to post here hoping to gain some of your opinion and experience . > I would like to know what firewall was the most wanted ? I have used > Linux several months and IP tables was a good statefull firewall . > What about in freeBSD ? All three are well written and all three pretty much do the same thing. Some things you may want to consider when choosing which firewall product to use: IPFW is part of FreeBSD and only runs on FreeBSD. Filtering is implemented in the kernel, NAT is a user-land daemon. IPFilter is written to work with many operating systems (FreeBSD and Solaris are two examples). Filtering and NAT both run in the kernel. IPF was written for OpenBSD and later ported to FreeBSD. IPF came into existence because of disagreements between certain members of the OpenBSD team and the author of IPFilter. Filtering is done in the kernel and I believe NAT is also in-kernel. I have used both IPFW and IPFilter professionally. I prefer IPFW but only because I am more used to its filtering language. I have not found a sufficiently good technical reason for choosing one over the other. For anyone who wants to start the in-kernel vs user-land NAT argument, I've already been through it and there are valid arguments for both sides. So, I won't get into it again. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 15:07:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F85416A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:07:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03BC43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:07:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2C42551419; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:07:19 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jim Haskell Message-ID: <20050624150718.GA17661@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <42BB5C26.7090702@gmail.com> <42BB7926.2060206@daleco.biz> <42BBCE35.5010905@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BBCE35.5010905@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with 'make' failure while building custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:07:20 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 04:11:17AM -0500, Jim Haskell wrote: > The offending lines from make: >=20 > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls=20 > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arit= h=20 > -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -nostdinc -I- -I.= =20 > -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/altq=20 > -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I../../../contrib/pf=20 > -I../../../contrib/dev/ath -I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd=20 > -I../../../contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common=20 > -finline-limit=3D8000 --param inline-unit-growth=3D100 --param=20 > large-function-growth=3D1000 -mno-align-long-strings=20 > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2=20 > -ffreestanding -Werror ../../../i386/i386/locore.s > ../../../i386/i386/locore.s: Assembler messages: > ../../../i386/i386/locore.s:783: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `s= hr' This may happen if you are trying to upgrade from FreeBSD 4 to FreeBSD 5 or later, but are trying to build the new kernel out of the correct sequence in the upgrade process (see the Handbook). Kris --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCvCGmWry0BWjoQKURAvHzAKDrvMCV1zqfO2SfGMhmOCTAo15F5wCgioLO ckoAyJveCmwQh29Lsau6nIk= =KFyo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 15:20:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BCE16A420 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:20:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from web1.nidhog.com (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C5743D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:20:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) Received: from blacksea.nedyah.org (semcheski.squirrelhill.nidhog.net [66.207.143.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by web1.nidhog.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5OFKGWq043802 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:20:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@immuneit.com) From: "Michael H. Semcheski" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:11:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <5fd642fc05062406331e283ffe@mail.gmail.com> <200506241059.11035.ean@hedron.org> In-Reply-To: <200506241059.11035.ean@hedron.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506241111.13244.lists@immuneit.com> X-Greylist: Recipient e-mail whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (web1.nidhog.com [66.207.132.2]); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: firewall on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:20:23 -0000 On Friday 24 June 2005 10:59 am, Ean Kingston wrote: > IPF was written for OpenBSD and later ported to FreeBSD. IPF came into > existence because of disagreements between certain members of the OpenBSD > team and the author of IPFilter. Filtering is done in the kernel and I > believe NAT is also in-kernel. The OpenBSD packet filter is known as pf, not ipf. It exists in FreeBSD as pf. I have to say that I find it has some very useful features, though they are outside the mainstream firewall feature set. For instance, authpf. When you log into the firewall (usually via ssh), if the account's login type shell is authpf, a special set of firewall rules get loaded for the IP address the client is connecting from. I have used pf and ipfw, and they're both fine. If I had to pick, I'd choose pf because I like that it uses a seperate configuration file, rather than a shell script to load its rules. I'm not an expert on either. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 16:16:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A7716A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: from web41015.mail.yahoo.com (web41015.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DB9143D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28511 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2005 16:16:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=25ZcJhFRRQKYlALxm8uHq0jed9V569LNqgKCrXTxDtAJfwHPGVhz+DPvYWyNciNgIbPLS3fNNBP5JWZc1dfPWAWlyaDjFjEhyAumIcY6Hel7LD6JiINSK38PMep3hN6Deyk5bijSeywADdkoXMCb6t6iGGM6W4Dhm6sSEOi14lc= ; Message-ID: <20050624161652.28509.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.3.234.17] by web41015.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:16:51 PDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:16:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <42BC0978.2020609@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP and networking under FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:16:52 -0000 Hello, ps: root 542 0.0 0.7 1320 812 ?? Ss Tue09AM 2:22.10 /sbin/natd -dynamic -d -log_ipfw_denied -log_denied -dynamic -n dc0 ifconfig: pccard_ifconfig="NO" ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.0.15 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" So FreeBSD 5.3 isn't production? I had read somewhere that 5.2.1 wasn't production and that 5.3 was supposed to be production. I'll look into upgrading to 5.4, it will take a bit of time to do that though. Joe --- Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Joe wrote: > > >Okay, I've been looking and looking for duplicate natd's. > > > >I have the /etc/rc.conf which has natd stuff below, and the > only > >other place I see it is in ipfw. > > > >I was able to change my rc and use /etc/rc.d/natd start and > that > >works. Which is better as it does not require me to reload > my > >firewall rules. > > > >I still don't know why natd refuses to start the first time > when > >called from ipfw. > > > > > If I understand the boot procedure correctly, natd ought to be > started > as part of the /etc/rc.d/ipfw and that just calls > "/etc/rc.d/natd start" > which is what you are typing later from the command line with > success, > so why it fails at boot, I really don't know at this point. > > The "cannot bind to divert socket" error I thought could > happen if a) > you weren't root (seems unlikely from bootup) or b) something > had > already bound the socket. After your machine boots, what does > ps uagxww | egrep natd > show? > > Google also found this: > > >- In FreeBSD, IPDIVERT must be enabled at compile time. > > > I guess your kernel has this option, or natd would never have > worked. > > what ifconfig lines do you have in /etc.rc.conf > > egrep ifconfig /etc/rc.conf > > >I have no rc.conf.local > > > > > Not too surprising. It could be used under 4.X as a second > level to > rc.conf, but exists nowadays for backwards compatibility and > AFAIK isn't > created by anything. > > As a more drastic attempt at a solution, could you try > upgrading to > 5.4? It has numerous improvements over 5.3, which was never a > > production release. Maybe some ordering problems was fixed. > > --Alex > > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 16:31:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC73C16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:31:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@orbweavers.co.uk) Received: from mail.orbweavers.co.uk (213-152-38-100.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.38.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7964043D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:31:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@orbweavers.co.uk) Received: from orker.orbweavers.co.uk (unknown [192.168.16.202]) by mail.orbweavers.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A61AB2CE1 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:31:17 +0100 (BST) From: martin@orbweavers.co.uk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:31:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506241731.13651.martin@orbweavers.co.uk> Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:31:20 -0000 On Friday 24 June 2005 15:31, fbsd_user wrote: > Which firewall you select to use should be based on your level of > understanding of how information is moved across the internet. > Ipfilter is best suited for people who are just learning about > firewalling. PF is a little more automated and the rules are very > close to IPF's. > IPFW is for the advanced firewall users who have expert > understanding of the internet. All 3 firewalls support stateful > rules and are available in the 5.4 release. Best advice is start > with Ipfilter and when you find out that you have needs which are > not met by Ipfilter then move over to IPFW. Is this right? I started off using IPFW, and found it no harder or easier than ipfilter, which I am using now. Can't remember the reason I changed to ipfilter, think it might have something to do with being easier to use with ipnat, but I am pretty happy with it. Is there anything that ipfw does better than ipfilter to make it preferable? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Khanh Cao > Van > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:33 AM > To: freebsd-questions > Subject: firewall on freebsd > > > I'm going to learn about the freebsd firewall . In the handbook list > some of them and I could not find out what is the best . So I > decided > to post here hoping to gain some of your opinion and experience . > I would like to know what firewall was the most wanted ? I have used > Linux several months and IP tables was a good statefull firewall . > What about in freeBSD ? > > Thank for reading :) > -- > ---------------------------------- > Cao Van Khanh > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 17:01:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C5716A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:01:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53405.mail.yahoo.com (web53405.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97EA243D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 60737 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2005 17:01:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0JT4lGypTkdpzABJIrIfGrZv/LqTaYs7wdL3ie3KfIJUMUVV6nZgfWGloxQmwd5L6AXZBqSHCNUNeRj0VnonxNYcprW92Zn/u8sPln6BRB0y7JfGgI+c1TO6DqDl0tA09f4p4EnMyF+xiaBujF8a3Qdc2LFKFTT6vlRo5EIeVA8= ; Message-ID: <20050624170111.60732.qmail@web53405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.65.133.5] by web53405.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:01:10 PDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:01:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Your Name To: Henry Miller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200506241129470178.2E6CCF4E@mail.intradyn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Printing to OSX shared printer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:01:13 -0000 --- Henry Miller wrote: > > On 6/24/2005 at 07:19 Your Name wrote: > > >i have CUPS set up on my FreeBSD 4.11 box, but i've > >never used it (i've never printed at all from this > >machine). > >i'm looking for the simplest answer to printing > from > >this, not trying to do anything fancy. > > In theory Mac OSX uses CUPS for printing, so you > should be able to plug > things in and have them work. thanks, i guess i wasn't being clear. if i bring another Mac onto the network, and try to print from it, i'll see all the shared printers and i can choose whichever one i want. if I have my FreeBSD machine, how do i see these printers? maybe its there but i don't know about it. when i go to the CUPS admin page to add a printer, at http://localhost:631/admin/?op=add-printer i get blanks for name, location, description. but i don't know about any possible printers, i just want to see a list that i can choose from. the CUPS manual isnt clear on this, it just says if your running OSX then everything will work. but i have no idea how to find the name and address of any printer that happens to be on the network. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 8C72016A41F; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050624170200.8C72016A41F@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 95E7916A420; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050624170200.95E7916A420@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 17:08:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E4D16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:08:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E11343D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050624170855.IKZY19267.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:08:55 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:08:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: (PF) Packet filter firewall rule numbers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:08:56 -0000 I see rule numbers in the pf.log file but can not find any way to list the incore rules with their internal rule numbers. Is there a way to list the incore PF rules with rule numbers? Can a pf rule be inserted into the incore rules after or before a selected rule? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 17:21:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1550016A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krzychk2@o2.pl) Received: from poczta.o2.pl (mx2.go2.pl [193.17.41.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF0543D1F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:21:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krzychk2@o2.pl) Received: from localhost (staticline3210.toya.net.pl [217.113.238.94]) by poczta.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E74B340060 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:21:05 +0200 From: KrzychK2 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.26) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <675474063.20050624192105@o2.pl> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Strange arp problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KrzychK2 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:21:11 -0000 Hello freebsd-questions! I've had today a strange problem. One of my WIFI link has ping in about 1500 ms. Usualy radio reset helps but not today. Just by a mistake I've deleted static arp table in system and big surprise - evrything gone to normal. What a hell. I've loaded arp table - it workes for about 10 pings and again - 1500ms. Again cleaning arptable - all is working briliant. Can somebody tell me what is going on?? Is this some kind of arp spoofing or DOS?? Or maybe there is a bug in the system?? Firewall pf+altq Dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Tue Jun 21 12:04:32 CEST 2005 root@szczotka:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/Moje ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1.70GHz (1716.04-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf13 Stepping = 3 Features=0x3febfbff real memory = 536805376 (511 MB) avail memory = 519708672 (495 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib2 fxp0: port 0xbc00-0xbc3f mem 0xdfb00000-0xdfbfffff,0xdfefe000-0xdfefefff irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci3 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:b3:5c:62:ba fxp1: port 0xb800-0xb83f mem 0xdf900000-0xdf9fffff,0xdfefd000-0xdfefdfff irq 17 at device 4.0 on pci3 miibus1: on fxp1 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: Ethernet address: 00:02:b3:5c:62:49 pci3: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) pci3: at device 12.1 (no driver attached) pci3: at device 12.2 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button1: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f2-0x3f3 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f2-0x3f3 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xd0800-0xd2fff,0xce000-0xd07ff,0xcc800-0xcdfff,0xcb000-0xcc7ff,0xc0000-0xcafff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1716041044 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB [155061/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 fxp1: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 fxp1: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 ohci0: mem 0xdfefb000-0xdfefbfff irq 20 at device 12.0 on pci3 usb0: OHCI version 1.0 usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0xdfefc000-0xdfefcfff irq 21 at device 12.1 on pci3 usb1: OHCI version 1.0 usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xdfefff00-0xdfefffff irq 22 at device 12.2 on pci3 usb2: EHCI version 0.95 usb2: companion controllers, 3 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered ifconfig ifconfig_fxp0="inet xxxx netmask 255.255.255.252 media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex link0" <- it have to be like this. ifconfig_fxp1_alias0="inet xxx netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp1="inet xxx netmask 255.255.255.224 link0" -- Greetings, KrzychK2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 17:38:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C81416A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:38:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553F743D55 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:38:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so122953rns for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:38:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=b04IU8MrIcyY66UL8jnpvCCyY+D1lD+XljnidwigWSqK4aKzCYeiiiVwT1cj1ZhLfixtq+tuAKW5+EBBhy3WY5JcCWbjV3jH4y3xGldsQpu7LBqviF1d2CjjYW/OrBN9rvPyk0Uw/iG472x+B5psLNOBAqU3MqOlaswCERXsd7A= Received: by 10.38.195.36 with SMTP id s36mr97688rnf; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:38:37 -0400 From: Hornet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: cacti updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:38:38 -0000 Hello, Since the new security release of cacti yesterday. I was wondering how do I update the port? I tried portupdgrade cacti -F but that did not seem to do anyhing. A freind said that I needed to: cvsup make make deinstall make reinstall Is there no way to patch it? Thanks for the help. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 18:01:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1373916A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:01:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdsam@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C414543D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:01:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdsam@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so1581621wri for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:01:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LEErSaqaeK9BGiSdfYGNfK2ImV3wfV2VDIvqFUzYQs0p31zXcAIOmKELLoRP4QkUmk27W9voBKxyVa3qv4EW1Gi16LGulI1YZ/AGj/RBLjgg16aWwa1L0lgoeWnhvqgzRY+PdcLKC/X4XIy2BFRPhuvGCU1ghe+nycfK1ArFN/0= Received: by 10.54.15.71 with SMTP id 71mr1989208wro; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.6 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <60ba8a2905062411013bd79790@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:01:49 -0400 From: Sam Ip To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Newbie question about ports. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sam Ip List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:01:50 -0000 Hi, I'm trying out FreeBSD for the first time for use at work. However, there is a corporate firewall and hence ftp traffic doesn't get through. I can access http sites. So if a selling point of FreeBSD is its ports collection 1. Can you do a CVSup to update your ports via http?=20 2. Can you install ports via http? Thanks! Sam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 18:03:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288C716A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:03:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915D143D1F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:03:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:04:12 +0100 Message-ID: <42BC4AF1.3080607@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:03:29 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe References: <20050624161652.28509.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050624161652.28509.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2005 18:04:12.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[2010FD50:01C578E7] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP and networking under FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:03:33 -0000 Joe wrote: >Hello, > >ps: > >root 542 0.0 0.7 1320 812 ?? Ss Tue09AM 2:22.10 >/sbin/natd -dynamic -d -log_ipfw_denied -log_denied -dynamic -n >dc0 > > Is this just after a reboot? If so, it does show that natd is running, so I'm not sure why you're getting the message you were getting. >ifconfig: >pccard_ifconfig="NO" >ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.0.15 netmask 255.255.255.0" >ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > > That looks right. >So FreeBSD 5.3 isn't production? I had read somewhere that >5.2.1 wasn't production and that 5.3 was supposed to be >production. > > > I'm not sure if I'm getting the terminology quite right, but I believe 5.4 was the first "-STABLE" release. Up until then 4.X was still the "recommended" release to use unless you required 5.X for particular hardware and were prepared to accept that it might not be quite "production ready". My memory, when I was tracking this stuff, was that a lot of improvements went into 5.4. (I'm sure a lot went into 5.3 as well, but I'm reasonably sure it was not made the "-STABLE" or "recommended" branch or whatever). >I'll look into upgrading to 5.4, it will take a bit of time to >do that though. > I don't think it's as bad as you might think -- my experience is that upgrades within a major release number (4.X, or 5.X) have been very easy. The compiling can take time, but I just try to make it coincide with a good movie on the telly, or a sunny afternoon in the garden. The bit I don't like is mergemaster, just because it's fiddly and hands on and requires lots of concentration. (Mergemaster is a great deal better than anything which preceded it, which if you go back far enough was "nothing at all". It's not so much mergemaster that I dislike as just staring at the diffs trying to decipher how the OS-related changes affect my own changes). The handbook has a great section on upgrading. I'd recommend printing it off, especially if upgrading isn't something you have done often. Please note, I'm not saying that upgrading will fix your problem, but it might and 5.4 ought to be better than 5.3. Since no-one else has yet chimed in with any help, it might be worth posting a brand new message (with a more descriptive subject line) and just summarise the relevant bits of config and the natd error you are getting. (Summarise your natd_* config variables, ifconfig_* variables, OS version and an excerpt from your firewall showing any divert rules. That ought to be enough). One final thought. Did you start with a fresh install of 5.3? Did you upgrade from 4.X? If the latter, then make sure that you don't have any stray config/boot script files lying about. The easiest way to do that would be to run mergemaster (I like -s -v as options). You can always say "no" to everything, but you should study the list of "files in /etc which are not in CVS" and make sure that you recognize them all. If there are some you don't recognize which sound like they might be network/natd/firewall related, then they may be causing your problem. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 18:14:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B36B16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DD643D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:14:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 27743 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2005 18:14:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.59.122]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Jun 2005 18:14:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:14:12 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050624201412.7bc0d769@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200506191828.07064.algould@datawok.com> References: <20050619141506.1222993f@localhost> <200506191828.07064.algould@datawok.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Signature_Fri__24_Jun_2005_20_14_12_+0200_uK/fM=gmXGm_BHck"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3G file burns to -514M file on DVD-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:14:36 -0000 --Signature_Fri__24_Jun_2005_20_14_12_+0200_uK/fM=gmXGm_BHck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Andrew L. Gould" wrote: > On Sunday 19 June 2005 07:15 am, Fabian Keil wrote: > > "Andrew L. Gould" wrote: > > > I have a gzip'd database backup file that's 3GB in size. I used > > > mkisofs to create an iso image for burning to a DVD-R. Both the > > > mkisofs and growisofs process appeared to finish successfully; but > > > 'ls -alh' shows the resulting file to be -514M in size when the > > > DVD-R is mounted in FreeBSD 4.10. When I mount the dvd in a > > > separate FreeBSD 5.4 system, ls -alh results in 'ls: > > > /cdrom/pgdumpall.gz: Value too large to be stored in data type'. I > > > ftp'd the original 3GB file from the FreeBSD 4.10 system to the > > > FreeBSD 5.4 system. ls -alh reads the size of the original file > > > correctly. > > > > > > Windows reads the DVD-R and shows the file size correctly. > > > > > > I've tried recreating the iso image using -r and -l options and > > > burning the iso file with and without the -dvd-compat option; but > > > the results remain the same. > > Split your backup file before creating the iso. > > > > At the moment FreeBSD can't handle big files on isofs. > > If I remember correctly, big means > 1 GB, but I'm not sure. > > > > You should still be able to extract the file with isoinfo > > from the cdrtools port. > Once I've burned the DVD, how can I rejoin the files created using the=20 > -split-output option so that I can reload the database from the dump=20 > file? The man pages for mkisofs, isoinfo and split weren't very=20 > helpful in this regard. You misunderstood the -split-output option. It splits the image itself, so that it can be saved on file systems which have trouble with big files. I guess files splitted with split(1) can be rebuild with cat, haven't tried it though. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Signature_Fri__24_Jun_2005_20_14_12_+0200_uK/fM=gmXGm_BHck Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCvE2YoomUOj0wp30RAtauAJ4xxsWIOW+9nmdhVfitVKUiTcYtCACfTwi/ Rbgtd/CwGK/XDlajzAsK3xg= =V44C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Fri__24_Jun_2005_20_14_12_+0200_uK/fM=gmXGm_BHck-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 18:15:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24F516A41C; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mmj@mmj.dk) Received: from panther.mmj.dk (panther.mmj.dk [62.79.83.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638C343D1F; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mmj@mmj.dk) Received: by panther.mmj.dk (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0FB941A5A07; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:15:49 +0200 From: Mads Martin Joergensen To: freebsd_daemon Message-ID: <20050624181549.GK43440@mmj.dk> References: <6274.1119619532@www43.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6274.1119619532@www43.gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Project equivalent for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:15:51 -0000 * freebsd_daemon [Jun 24. 2005 15:25]: > dear list, > > i would like to know if there is a MS Project equivalent that runs on > FreeBSD? Something like Taskjuggler might also be worth a look: http://www.taskjuggler.org -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 18:36:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE3B16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AAE43D1F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:36:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:36:54 +0100 Message-ID: <42BC529C.90902@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:36:12 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Ip References: <60ba8a2905062411013bd79790@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <60ba8a2905062411013bd79790@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2005 18:36:54.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1ADEB20:01C578EB] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question about ports. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:36:15 -0000 Sam Ip wrote: >I'm trying out FreeBSD for the first time for use at work. However, >there is a corporate firewall and hence ftp traffic doesn't get >through. I can access http sites. So if a selling point of FreeBSD is >its ports collection > >1. Can you do a CVSup to update your ports via http? > >2. Can you install ports via http? > > Cvsup does not support http, but neither does it use ftp (see man cvsup, especially the -p and -P options). It requires that a single port be openable through your firewall (default 5999). There is an alternative, which I have never used, called CTM (see handbook). Ftp is required to fetch the source code for ports, but this happens when you try and build a port and has nothing to do with cvsup. The ftp connection used to fetch the sources will be a "passive" connection which is firewall friendly. There is no reason, beyond pure paranoia or obscene mistrust of employees, for a firewall to block passive-style ftp connections. If I were you, I would ask whoever is in charge of your corporate firewall if they do allow passive ftp, and if they don't, then ask for an explanation why not. If your FreeBSD requirement is business related, then they should be helping you get these basic services working. The firewall can easily limit ftp and cvsup connections to be from a specified IP address, and to a specified IP address. Security implications: none, since far more dangerous things can be carried in to the business on a CD. *If* (and I have no idea about this) there is a server which has the port sources available via HTTP, then you could download them yourself either with a web browser or something like lwp-download (part of the p5-libwww-5.803 perl package, and quite possibly part of the standard perl port). Every time a port fails to fetch a package via ftp, you would have to download it by hand. The ports collection is *one* selling point for FreeBSD (stability, documentation, and just being better than anything else :-) are some others). However, there is no way that you can expect anyone to waste their time to work around what can only be described as demented security restrictions. You might be better off looking for a server which can supply you packages via HTTP. Packages are pre-built ports comparable to Linux RPMs. Just like Linux RPMs you get no choice about any configurations options which the port provides, and are stuck with whatever the package creator used. That's one reason why the ports are so nice. See the pkg_add manual page and the handbook section on ports and packages. Just my 0.02, --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 18:39:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4DA16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:39:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDE843D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:39:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Dlt5j-0006ho-DY; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:39:51 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sam Ip Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:40:44 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <60ba8a2905062411013bd79790@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <60ba8a2905062411013bd79790@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506241340.44594.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcf0ae9e370172e666dd2e843c41e2ce0d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: Subject: Re: Newbie question about ports. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:39:56 -0000 On Friday 24 June 2005 01:01 pm, Sam Ip wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying out FreeBSD for the first time for use at work. However, > there is a corporate firewall and hence ftp traffic doesn't get > through. I can access http sites. So if a selling point of FreeBSD > is its ports collection > > 1. Can you do a CVSup to update your ports via http? > > 2. Can you install ports via http? > > Thanks! > > Sam Welcome to FreeBSD! I hope it's a good experience; but be warned that it may be addictive. I **think** the answer to both questions is "no" since the files you need are on ftp servers. One (fairly expensive) option for you is to order a DVD of binary packages for the release that you installed. The 2 sources of FreeBSD DVD's that I'm aware of are www.freebsdmall.com and bsdmall.com. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 20:09:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381BC16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:09:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad.albert@healthcarefirst.com) Received: from list.healthcarefirst.com (list.healthcarefirst.com [66.119.27.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E33B43D4C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad.albert@healthcarefirst.com) Received: from mail.myhealthcarefirst.com (hfmail01.sgf.healthcarefirst.med [10.15.2.11]) by list.healthcarefirst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4169E9E1F4 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:09:12 -0500 (CDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:09:11 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Message-ID: <433CEE75B1339547BBB373B340665384844421@hfmail01.sgf.healthcarefirst.med> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: firewall on freebsd thread-index: AcV4wWgACoUQH3jsT3apfR6pn167LQAIZepQ From: "Chad Albert" To: "Khanh Cao Van" , "freebsd-questions" X-HEALTHCAREfirst-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-HEALTHCAREfirst-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: chad.albert@healthcarefirst.com Cc: Subject: RE: firewall on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:09:18 -0000 I have been using ipfw for quite some time and I love it. The only issues I have with it are on the NAT side. Without a tool to modify the current nat rules, I can not change them dynamically without editing my config file then doing something like... killall -9 natd ; sleep 2 ; /sbin/natd -f /etc/natd.conf & to reinitialize it. Also natd is resource intensive. I have a PII 266 (not exactly a monster) and natd chews up 20-30 percent of my cpu during the day while nating about 3Mb/sec of traffic. I am planning on switching to pf and implementing a load balanced pair of firewalls using carp and pfsync. I hope that using an in-kernel nat will help performance and give me better control while adding/removing rules. -- Chad -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Khanh Cao Van Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:33 AM To: freebsd-questions Subject: firewall on freebsd I'm going to learn about the freebsd firewall . In the handbook list some of them and I could not find out what is the best . So I decided to post here hoping to gain some of your opinion and experience . I would like to know what firewall was the most wanted ? I have used Linux several months and IP tables was a good statefull firewall . What about in freeBSD ? Thank for reading :) -- ---------------------------------- Cao Van Khanh _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 20:41:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989C616A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:41:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE7F43D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:41:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 2976 invoked by uid 207); 24 Jun 2005 20:41:37 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. 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Processed in 3.338798 secs); 24 Jun 2005 20:41:37 -0000 Received: from dialup145.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.145]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 24 Jun 2005 20:41:33 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5OKf0Wb001165; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:41:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5OKeso1001156; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:40:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:40:43 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: fbsd_user Message-ID: <20050624204043.GA1055@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (PF) Packet filter firewall rule numbers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:41:39 -0000 On 2005-06-24 13:08, fbsd_user wrote: > I see rule numbers in the pf.log file but can not find any way to list the > incore rules with their internal rule numbers. > Is there a way to list the incore PF rules with rule numbers? # pfctl -vv -sr The double -v option *is* significant. > Can a pf rule be inserted into the incore rules after or before a > selected rule? Not sure. You can reload the rules *AND* keep the state information though, so this may not be necessary. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 20:56:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F2816A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:56:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B3443D58 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:56:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b172.otenet.gr [212.205.244.180]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5OKuI3i002897; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:56:20 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5OKuF9W001276; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:56:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5OKuEDX001275; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:56:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:56:14 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: fbsd_user , Khanh Cao Van Message-ID: <20050624205614.GB1055@gothmog.gr> References: <5fd642fc05062406331e283ffe@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:56:52 -0000 On 2005-06-24 10:31, fbsd_user wrote: > Which firewall you select to use should be based on your level of > understanding of how information is moved across the internet. > > Ipfilter is best suited for people who are just learning about > firewalling. PF is a little more automated and the rules are very > close to IPF's. True. > IPFW is for the advanced firewall users who have expert understanding > of the internet. Blatantly false. > All 3 firewalls support stateful rules and are available in the 5.4 > release. Best advice is start with Ipfilter and when you find out that > you have needs which are not met by Ipfilter then move over to IPFW. IPFW or PF is fine for starting too. The choise of the "best" firewall is, these days, more often than not an issue of which one matches the specific application and the taste of the one who is going to set it up, i.e. * DUMMYNET is a very nice bandwidth limiting & shaping tool, which may some times lead to choosing IPFW. * On the other hand, PF/ALTQ may be used to do similar things, so some users will obviously prefer this set of tools for other reasons (for instance, because the like the ruleset style better). * IP Filter, is almost obsoleted by PF on FreeBSD, but it's still one of the most portable firewalls out there (I use it on Solaris all the time, for example). There isn't a "best firewall for all cases". They all have their respective strengths and/or weaknesses. === To the original poster === I say, try them all out and choose the one _YOU_ prefer, for the reasons that are important in _YOUR_ setup. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 21:02:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F6C16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C5D43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b172.otenet.gr [212.205.244.180]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5OL1wLq004998; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:01:59 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5OL1uAG001357; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:01:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5OL1u68001356; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:01:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:01:56 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ean Kingston Message-ID: <20050624210156.GC1055@gothmog.gr> References: <5fd642fc05062406331e283ffe@mail.gmail.com> <200506241059.11035.ean@hedron.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506241059.11035.ean@hedron.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firewall on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:02:02 -0000 On 2005-06-24 10:59, Ean Kingston wrote: > For anyone who wants to start the in-kernel vs user-land NAT argument, > I've already been through it and there are valid arguments for both > sides. So, I won't get into it again. Agreed. Most of the people who use FreeBSD in SOHO installations (small office, home office), and have far less than dozens of systems behind a NAT-ting FreeBSD system will very rarely have a chance to notice *ANY* difference between userlevel vs. in-kernel NAT. This top snapshot: http://keramida.serverhive.com/pixelshow-top.txt is from a relatively recent demo-party where ipfw/natd were used in a gateway of more than 100 systems madly downloading files from each other and from the wide Internet. Notice the 97% idle cpu percentage :-) If FreeBSD can handle NAT, packet forwarding, and general connectivity for more than 100 systems and still sit 97% of the time waiting for something interesting to happen, then I'd be surprised if SOHO users with less than 10-15 systems will notice anything :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 21:22:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AC016A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from domze.sa@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B40543D48 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from domze.sa@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so583265wri for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:22:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=tZjdrkxE863YvaKl9A6ZsYQV4g/KMXKyQB9R/1/qAfyrHUg+xe8iLYuUsG4s12Tr09oKE3qChXenDBfw/p1bypLEnHN29eMd7/OxCdYzYeQuob8+50r/qpFUpJ5Qkdqy+wJNREspvy7hXU89eLJ99MqCUddyMTiUAlOTjX7uy5I= Received: by 10.54.53.39 with SMTP id b39mr2038647wra; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DOMZ ([70.52.14.133]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g3sm4378383wra.2005.06.24.14.22.33; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001201c57902$d3435d30$02000a0a@DOMZ> From: "Dominique SA" To: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:22:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2741.2600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problem with OIDENTD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:22:34 -0000 Hey guys, I'm using FreeBSD 5.4, with oidentd 2.0.7 and PF. I can run = oidentd fine but when i try to run it with the -m flag (masquerade flag) = it tells me: Fatal: Can't open kmem device: No such file or directory Though: mem.ko module is loaded and: crw-r----- 1 root kmem 244, 1 Jun 24 16:06 /dev/kmem any ideas on how to fix this? I would like to use the Masquerade thing = for my computers on my network. Thanks=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 21:47:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3FD16A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:47:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smalone@udallas.edu) Received: from mail.udallas.edu (mail.udallas.edu [192.91.253.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06A4443D49 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:47:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smalone@udallas.edu) Received: (qmail 4970 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2005 21:49:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.3.20.101?) (10.3.20.101) by 0 with SMTP; 24 Jun 2005 21:49:38 -0000 Message-ID: <42BC7F82.6080302@udallas.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:47:46 -0500 From: "Sean P. Malone" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ethereal icons? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: smalone@udallas.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:47:48 -0000 Hi- I'm running freeBSD v5.3 with KDE v3.3.0. I just installed ethereal from the ports collection. Ethereal works fine but I can't seem to find the bleeping icon! Can someone point me in the right direction or just email their set to me? Output from pkg_info below. Am I just not seeing it? Is my groovy desktop doomed to be forever defaced with a generic icon! :) TIA test# pkg_info -L ethereal-0.10.11_1 | less Information for ethereal-0.10.11_1: Files: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/capinfos.1.gz /usr/X11R6/man/man1/editcap.1.gz /usr/X11R6/man/man1/idl2eth.1.gz /usr/X11R6/man/man1/mergecap.1.gz /usr/X11R6/man/man1/text2pcap.1.gz /usr/X11R6/man/man1/ethereal.1.gz /usr/X11R6/man/man1/tethereal.1.gz /usr/X11R6/man/man4/ethereal-filter.4.gz /usr/X11R6/bin/capinfos /usr/X11R6/bin/dftest /usr/X11R6/bin/editcap /usr/X11R6/bin/ethereal /usr/X11R6/bin/idl2eth /usr/X11R6/bin/mergecap /usr/X11R6/bin/tethereal /usr/X11R6/bin/text2pcap /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/acn.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/agentx.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/artnet.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/asn1.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/ciscosm.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/coseventcomm.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/cosnaming.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/docsis.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/enttec.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/gryphon.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/irda.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/lwres.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/mate.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/megaco.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/mgcp.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/opsi.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/pcli.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/profinet.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/rdm.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/rlm.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/rtnet.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/rudp.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/stats_tree.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/v5ua.so /usr/X11R6/lib/ethereal/plugins/0.10.11/xml.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libethereal.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libethereal.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libethereal.so.0 /usr/X11R6/lib/libwiretap.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libwiretap.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libwiretap.so.0 /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/AUTHORS-SHORT /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/capinfos.html /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/diameter/dictionary.dtd /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/diameter/dictionary.xml /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/diameter/imscxdx.xml /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/diameter/mobileipv4.xml /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/diameter/nasreq.xml /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/diameter/sunping.xml /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/editcap.html /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/ethereal-filter.html /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/ethereal.html /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/help/capture_filters.txt /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/help/capturing.txt /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/help/display_filters.txt /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/help/faq.txt /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/help/getting_started.txt /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/help/overview.txt /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/help/toc /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/idl2eth.html /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/manuf /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/mergecap.html /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/tethereal.html /usr/X11R6/share/ethereal/text2pcap.html (END) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 21:56:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916A916A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:56:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewh@jumpapparel.com) Received: from jumpapparel.com (heckle.jumpapparel.com [65.244.67.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D8D43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:56:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewh@jumpapparel.com) X-Virus-Scanned: by cgpav Received: from [192.168.0.33] (account andrewh@jumpapparel.com) by jumpapparel.com (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 4.3) with XMIT id 2303436 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:56:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:55:01 -0400 Message-Id: <4814f65a541a0b4bb81a55c4f53cff9f@jumpapparel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: gvinum/ahc0 Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: AcV5B18Pr51bXCQ4TMKZGXlnzuJqXQ== From: "Andrew Heyn" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.1.22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gvinum/ahc0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:56:16 -0000 Hi, I have a gvinum setup and am using an adaptec 7899 controller. Upon removing a drive (testing gvinum), the following happens... Is this message useful at all without a backtrace? Is there interest in getting a proper backtrace? I am running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE on a dell poweredge 1550 using one of its two cpus. GEOM_VINUM: subdisk usr.p0.s1 state change: up-> down GEOM_VINUM: plex usr.p0.state change: up->degraded GEOM_VINUM: subdisk home.p0.s1 state change: up->down GEOM_VINUM: plex home.p0.s1 state change up->degraded writing vhdr failed: 6(da1:ahc0:0:1:0): synchronize cache failed, status 0x5b, scsi status =3D 0x0 (da1:ahc0:1:0): removing device entry gvinum: lost drive 'middle' fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address =3D 0x18c fault code =3D supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc00449654 stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xe5537bf0 frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xe5537bf0 cs =3D base 0x0 limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b DPL =3D 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IPOL=3D0 current process =3D 38 (irq27:ahc0) trap number =3D 12 panic: page fault uptime 9m20s ahc0: spurious SCSI interrupt. Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 00:44:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F59016A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:44:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA61343D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:44:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.157.226]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5P0i0j9067651; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:44:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <42BCA8A5.9050708@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:43:17 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: smalone@udallas.edu References: <42BC7F82.6080302@udallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <42BC7F82.6080302@udallas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Ethereal icons? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:44:03 -0000 Sean P. Malone wrote: > Hi- > > I'm running freeBSD v5.3 with KDE v3.3.0. > > I just installed ethereal from the ports collection. Ethereal > works fine but I can't seem to find the bleeping icon! Can > someone point me in the right direction or just email their set to me? > > Output from pkg_info below. Am I just not seeing it? Is my groovy > desktop doomed to be forever defaced with a generic icon! :) TIA Didn't take much detective work; you might try: http://www.ethereal.com/mm/image/ethereal.ico ... although I have no idea if it "bleeps" or not.... :-D HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 00:56:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8FD16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeremy@stormy.smart-serv.net) Received: from smart-serv.net (smart-serv.net [64.251.71.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E3E43D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:56:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeremy@stormy.smart-serv.net) Received: (qmail 66002 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jun 2005 00:56:31 -0000 Received: from 64.251.71.178 by smart-serv.net (envelope-from , uid 0) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.83/839. spamassassin: 3.0.2. Clear:RC:1(64.251.71.178):. Processed in 0.130996 secs); 25 Jun 2005 00:56:31 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: jeremy@stormy.smart-serv.net via smart-serv.net X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(64.251.71.178):. Processed in 0.130996 secs) Received: from smart-serv.net (HELO ?192.168.1.248?) (jeremy@64.251.71.178) by smart-serv.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 00:56:31 -0000 Message-ID: <42BCABCD.9040609@stormy.smart-serv.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:56:45 -0700 From: "J. Johnston" Organization: SmartServ Hosting User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050205) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kelly References: <1099.209.87.176.4.1119272748.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> <20050620143858.GA70289@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20050620143858.GA70289@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: utility that will dump a web page to std out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeremy@stormy.smart-serv.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:56:33 -0000 David Kelly wrote: >On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:05:48AM -0500, Brian John wrote: > > >>Hello, >>Does anyone know of a utility that will get a webpage and dump the >>output to standard out? I was going to use wget, but it dumps the >>output to a file. Any ideas? >> >> > >fetch -o - http://url > > > curl http://url -- Jeremy Johnston (President / Developer) SmartServ Hosting Email: jeremy@smart-serv.net Phone: 1-250-402-6634 Ext. 201 Cell: 1-250-402-9583 | 2504029583@msg.telus.com (150 Characters max) Fax: 1-250-402-6634 Toll Free: 1-866-702-2904 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 01:41:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7AC16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:41:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lawrence.petrykanyn@sympatico.ca) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4967543D53 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:41:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lawrence.petrykanyn@sympatico.ca) Received: from elmo ([70.48.102.249]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with SMTP id <20050625014126.KKLI19894.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@elmo> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:41:26 -0400 From: "Lawrence Petrykanyn" To: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:42:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Gnome2 Hangs at Splash Screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:41:28 -0000 Hi! I can’t seem to get Gnome2 to work. I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from scratch, installed Xorg (it works fine, I can get into Xterm) and ran CVS (for both source and ports) and portupgrade several times. When I try to “startx” either as root or as a user, I get the initial Gnome 2.10 Splash Screen but nothing else. The mouse works fine. When I Ctl+Alt+Backspace to get out, there are no error messages. I did a “make deinstall” for Gnome2, then a “make install clean” but nothing changed. I have googled this but have found nothing. Any advice, suggestions or comments would be appreciated. Thanking you in advance, Lawrence From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 02:11:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6238816A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nethaniel@box201.com) Received: from host78.ipowerweb.com (host78.ipowerweb.com [66.235.200.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4719943D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nethaniel@box201.com) Received: from c-67-190-22-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.190.22.43] helo=electricblue) by host78.ipowerweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dm08m-0007rV-Lh; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:11:28 -0700 From: To: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:10:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <5fee5e3005062316526facf51d@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcV4TruXJaLls6tHRYKYZlSnzyojhgA2y3eA X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host78.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - box201.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20050625021128.4719943D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: 'luke' Subject: RE: help with a failed install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:11:28 -0000 > On 6/23/05, Brian Duke wrote: > > The BTX loader fails right after the initial setup screen. I press any > > option except install prompt and it fails. > > the first thing i would do is try different installation media. > disabling acpi might help. it's certainly worth a try(those > instructions from "help!!!..." are for disabling acpi. hopefully that > will get you booted to sysinstall. beyond that, hopefully the kernel > on the install media has support for your raid card or else you're > going to have the same problem you had with solaris and fedora. good > luck > > luke Ok so I set the acpi to disabled and it still fails. I verified no power management options are turned on. I also ensured "plug and play OS" was disabled too. The compooter still won't get past the BTX loader. Something about a Gateway ALR 9200 is not liked by freebsd of any flavor. I still get the same "BTX halted" right after I choose any option on the boot-up freebsd menu except 6. I'm really lost here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 02:54:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B51616A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:54:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0518E43D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:54:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jun 2005 21:54:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jun 2005 21:54:02 -0500 From: Frank Knobbe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-sGTtM4od/PmmerHBD1Cb" Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:53:59 -0500 Message-Id: <1119668039.27014.40.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: Multisync plugin for Evolution 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:54:06 -0000 --=-sGTtM4od/PmmerHBD1Cb Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, has anyone gotten the Multisync plugin for Evolution 2 compiled and installed under FreeBSD? The CVS snapshot of multisync 0.82 contains the evolution2 plugin and it seems people are using it under Linux. It is currently not available via the FreeBSD ports tree. Multisync can be installed via the port, but the Evolution 2 plugin has to be download and installed by hand. However, I'm encountering various autoconf/automake/libtool related errors and am stuck. If someone else has successfully compiled that on FreeBSD, please share your experience. I'm pulling my hair out over this for the last 6 hours and am starting to bald :( Thanks! Frank --=-sGTtM4od/PmmerHBD1Cb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCvMdHwBQKb2zelzoRAoRzAJ9KZRvnSvwmlAUrG1dWyywY4VDsWgCg2Gef 5bziCb6Zwm9NcGAXgG6sRPI= =a3Km -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-sGTtM4od/PmmerHBD1Cb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 03:39:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A5A16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from stovebolt.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5DD43D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (adsl-66-141-178-138.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [66.141.178.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stovebolt.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E221F3FC37 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:59:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:58:51 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <08A3A012657D73D10A220154@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> In-Reply-To: <200506241731.13651.martin@orbweavers.co.uk> References: <200506241731.13651.martin@orbweavers.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.0 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:39:06 -0000 --On June 24, 2005 5:31:13 PM +0100 martin@orbweavers.co.uk wrote: > On Friday 24 June 2005 15:31, fbsd_user wrote: >> Which firewall you select to use should be based on your level of >> understanding of how information is moved across the internet. >> Ipfilter is best suited for people who are just learning about >> firewalling. PF is a little more automated and the rules are very >> close to IPF's. >> IPFW is for the advanced firewall users who have expert >> understanding of the internet. All 3 firewalls support stateful >> rules and are available in the 5.4 release. Best advice is start >> with Ipfilter and when you find out that you have needs which are >> not met by Ipfilter then move over to IPFW. > > Is this right? If it is, then I'm a lot smarter than I give myself credit for. The first firewall I ever used was ipchains. The I used iptables, but I never learned much about either because Linux obscures the config (unless you're doing something "fancy", you can run "setup" on the cli, click a few check boxes and you're done. When I decided to switch a server over to FBSD, I had to read the man page to understand how pf worked, because there *was* no "setup" to run. I've been using pf for a few years now, and I've never had problems understanding the syntax or how it works (but I also never do NAT, so that might be the reason it seems easy to me.) I started off using IPFW, and found it no harder or easier > than ipfilter, which I am using now. Can't remember the reason I changed > to ipfilter, think it might have something to do with being easier to > use with ipnat, but I am pretty happy with it. Is there anything that > ipfw does better than ipfilter to make it preferable? > The only thing I would say about firewalls is, know what you're doing and do it at the console. There's nothing like having to get dressed and drive 40 miles to fix a box because you screwed up the firewall config will working remotely to impress upon you the need to work at the console. :-) Personally, I like the "quick" keyword of the OpenBSD firewall, (but not enough to bother installing it.) Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 04:35:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F4316A41F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:35:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68F643D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:35:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.23]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IIM00HJJI2HGQHF@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml9so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.7]) by pd3mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IIM00FQ4I2HKH80@pd3mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.60] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.209.6]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IIM00H2DI2GAJ@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:34:36 -0700 From: Colin Percival To: Denny White Message-id: <42BCDEDC.8080303@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050406) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: freebsd-update fetch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:35:07 -0000 I'm copy-and-pasting from the archives, since I'm not subscribed to the freebsd-questions list; please CC me on replies. Denny White writes: > [...] > The following files are affected by security > fixes, but have not been updated because they > have been modified locally: To translate: "I looked at the files you have on disk, and I don't recognize them -- they're not the files which shipped on the RELEASE CD-ROMs, nor are they files which I provided to you. They might be up to date, or they might not -- or you might have decided to replace them with a program which calculates Pi. You'll have to decide what you want to do with them yourself." > [...] > FreeBSD dualman.cableone.net 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD > [...] > > So, I guess my question is, am I okay at this > point, i.e., does freebsd-update's output mean > they've already been fixed locally, or do I need > to specify a branch and force an update on the > files. If in doubt, read the advisory. FreeBSD security advisories FreeBSD-SA-05:10.tcpdump and FreeBSD-SA-05:11.gzip say that the issues were corrected in 5.4-RELEASE-p2, so if you did a buildworld and installworld at the same time as you last updated your kernel (note that the output of uname just tells you what version the kernel is, and doesn't say anything about the world), then you're safe. Of course, assuming that you haven't deliberately changed those programs, it wouldn't hurt to run # freebsd-update --branch crypto fetch # freebsd-update install since that will just return those programs to their "canonical" form. (In FreeBSD 5.3 and 5.4, there is only the "crypto" branch -- the releases no longer ship with non-cryptographic binaries.) Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 04:44:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEB016A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from l.terror.l@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCED43D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from l.terror.l@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so36266wra for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:44:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=uEjtKo9ALZuf+1g7G/AAEZpiP5nzm3rF0hLuUtwBXYdnEa8wMfT7inEaBLvNwz9nTU4gwZX9AfqXL42oVsNxp2IFP6fWHrdtkq+I28qa8sInQB6H2JrNlOtddKgz29jFi42Vl+72fIyRtCwvBYcXd9wd4IxzQNI82qVnTHlNXYM= Received: by 10.54.118.1 with SMTP id q1mr1373981wrc; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.2 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19ce4b450506242144cc0a07a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:44:20 -0700 From: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?-=AB=3Aterror=3A=BB-?= To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?-=AB=3Aterror=3A=BB-?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:44:24 -0000 SGVsbG8sCiBPbiB5b3VyIEZUUCBzZXJ2ZXJzIHRoYXQgaG9zdCBhbGwgb2YgdGhlIEZyZWVCU0Qg cmVsZWFzZXMgYW5kIHN1Y2gsIGFyZSAKdGhlc2Ugc2VydmVycyB1c2luZyBGcmVlQlNEIGFzIHRo ZWlyIE9TPyBJZiBzbywgd2hhdCBGVFAgc2VydmVyIHByb2dyYW0gaXMgCmJlaW5nIHVzZWQ/CiBU aGFua3MuCgotLSAKq4ajKHIpKHIp2ChyKQoKSU1QT1JUQU5UIE5PVElDRToKVGhpcyBlLW1haWwg YW5kIGFueSBhdHRhY2htZW50IHRvIGl0IGlzIGludGVuZGVkIG9ubHkgdG8gYmUgcmVhZCBvciB1 c2VkIGJ5CnRoZSBuYW1lZCBhZGRyZXNzZWUuIEl0IGlzIGNvbmZpZGVudGlhbCBhbmQgbWF5IGNv bnRhaW4gbGVnYWxseSBwcml2aWxlZ2VkCmluZm9ybWF0aW9uLiBObyBjb25maWRlbnRpYWxpdHkg b3IgcHJpdmlsZWdlIGlzIHdhaXZlZCBvciBsb3N0IGJ5IGFueQptaXN0YWtlbiB0cmFuc21pc3Np b24gdG8geW91LiBJZiB5b3UgcmVjZWl2ZSB0aGlzIGUtbWFpbCBpbiBlcnJvciwgcGxlYXNlCmlt bWVkaWF0ZWx5IGRlbGV0ZSBpdCBmcm9tIHlvdXIgc3lzdGVtIGFuZCBub3RpZnkgdGhlIHNlbmRl ci4gWW91IG11c3Qgbm90CmRpc2Nsb3NlLCBjb3B5IG9yIHVzZSBhbnkgcGFydCBvZiB0aGlzIGUt bWFpbCBpZiB5b3UgYXJlIG5vdCB0aGUgaW50ZW5kZWQKcmVjaXBpZW50Lgo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 05:23:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F45916A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:23:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web52504.mail.yahoo.com (web52504.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04DCA43D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:23:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 848 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 2005 05:23:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=T7RqMfQxuUsPMcfgifSiI3dQk9F9Rs5ci1mJznQP1atocE2EorlmDiS6CHxzGStvBkkA5RT8E1PU3tTYvniHPJAm8ZmbvlwQDAWpzEh4wqU4MfjXJLzM/xR4pONfRlY2Jh0sazJwF5ztWd0p49c1eXywuTEIRp5JRUqtCFJve0Y= ; Message-ID: <20050625052314.846.qmail@web52504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.204.157.14] by web52504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:23:14 PDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Triple booted, no mouse with in 5.4 :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:23:15 -0000 Hello Family, I was totally stoked to get my first 64-bit PC, an AMD/Athlon and it came with Windows-XP Pro, and I did what I always do and that's to then install Linux then FreeBSD. All my machines work great like this with the Linux bootloader doing the booting of WinXP/Linux/FreeBSD. The thing that bums me out is that the mouse works with WinXP and SuSE-9.3 but there is no luck with the mouse with FreeBSD-5.4, KDE came up just fine though. Per postings to the web I have added and removed and added the line to /boot/device.hints of: hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" I also "enabled" and "disabled" ACPI in the BIOS too on various attempts. I have ran: Xorg -configure and ran the file that it generated with really bad results "then" deleted the generated file and made sure /etc/X11 was empty and with no apparent config file got a great display of kde when I started KDE, what file it used I don't know. I ran a trace on "startx" (with a .xinitrc file containing startkde) and I could not seem to determine it. I'm still used to /etc/X11/XF86Config but there is none in the new 5.4 So, I really tried to find some solution to this and more or less hit a brick wall. Thanks in advance for any help on this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 05:49:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE3416A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:49:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@idealinter.net) Received: from mail.idealinter.net (mail.idealinter.net [72.242.8.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ADB43D1D for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@idealinter.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [72.242.8.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.idealinter.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ED410E42C; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:49:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> References: <42BB0C22.6010000@webexc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ken Ebling Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:49:43 -0400 To: Ben Timby X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help, I killed my machine. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:49:47 -0000 On Jun 23, 2005, at 3:23 PM, Ben Timby wrote: > I was upgrading from 4.10-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE, following the > instructions in the freebsd handbook and something went wrong. > > I used CVSup to update my sources. I built the world and kernel as > follows: > > cd /usr/src > make buildworld && make buildkernel > > I am using the GENERIC config. I had to copy /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ > GENERIC.hints to /boot/device.hints. Before the above builds worked > properly. > > I installed the kernel, and rebooted the system. > > It booted (mostly) ok, sudo did not work properly, so I had to > login as root. I did mergemaster -p. I had to add the new proxy > user and group for pf. After this, I did: > > cd /usr/src/ > make installworld > > during the process, it died in: > > /usr/src/bin/test > > with Signal 12. > > No commands worked after this point, All I received was Signal 12. > I cannot boot into single user mode, I receive a Signal 12 from any > shell I try to use. > > I understand a Signal 12 is a non-existant system call. The half > installworld probably caused this. > > How can I recover from this? > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I've upgraded a few machines from 4.x to 5.x without any problems. I followed the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING. cvsup your machine to RELENG_5_4 and look towards the end of /usr/src/UPDATING for instructions. There are a few important steps that I haven't seen documented elsewhere. Good luck, Ken Ebling From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 05:51:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C31C16A41F; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:51:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennyboy@cableone.net) Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5945443D49; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:51:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennyboy@cableone.net) Received: from dualman.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.190.179]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24000314 for multiple; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:51:57 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:51:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Denny White To: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <42BCDEDC.8080303@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20050625002959.H74347@dualman.cableone.net> References: <42BCDEDC.8080303@freebsd.org> X-GPG-PUBLIC_KEY: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E OE67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 51, in=48, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.190.179 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: freebsd-update fetch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:51:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Colin Percival wrote: > I'm copy-and-pasting from the archives, since I'm not subscribed to > the freebsd-questions list; please CC me on replies. > > Denny White writes: >> [...] >> The following files are affected by security >> fixes, but have not been updated because they >> have been modified locally: > > To translate: "I looked at the files you have on disk, and I don't > recognize them -- they're not the files which shipped on the RELEASE > CD-ROMs, nor are they files which I provided to you. They might be > up to date, or they might not -- or you might have decided to replace > them with a program which calculates Pi. You'll have to decide what > you want to do with them yourself." > >> [...] >> FreeBSD dualman.cableone.net 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD >> [...] >> >> So, I guess my question is, am I okay at this >> point, i.e., does freebsd-update's output mean >> they've already been fixed locally, or do I need >> to specify a branch and force an update on the >> files. > > If in doubt, read the advisory. FreeBSD security advisories > FreeBSD-SA-05:10.tcpdump and FreeBSD-SA-05:11.gzip say that the issues > were corrected in 5.4-RELEASE-p2, so if you did a buildworld and > installworld at the same time as you last updated your kernel (note > that the output of uname just tells you what version the kernel is, and > doesn't say anything about the world), then you're safe. > > Of course, assuming that you haven't deliberately changed those programs, > it wouldn't hurt to run > # freebsd-update --branch crypto fetch > # freebsd-update install > since that will just return those programs to their "canonical" form. (In > FreeBSD 5.3 and 5.4, there is only the "crypto" branch -- the releases no > longer ship with non-cryptographic binaries.) > > Colin Percival > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Seems like I always forget to read something. Should've read the security advisories very first thing. Just taking me a while to put all this together. Like being caught in one those jokes where, right when you're suckered into it, you ask the question that elicits the punchline. You don't tend to forget those. :) Backup to the basics. In fairness, I constantly am into several bsd books I've bought, handbook, web sites, google, this list, etc. But, I should've thought to read there, right on the first page of the web site. Cvsup RELENG_5_4, make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, reboot, all ok, drop to single user, make installworld, mergemaster & so on. All done the same time. So, should be good to go.Thanks for the help & the wakeup call, too. Denny White -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCvPDpy0Ty5RZE55oRAnLhAJ4pYY4JfCQGjG8TZQZf9u6SHCkjMwCfSiGI s0/dVxUVAPkgPyww7WoAkOU= =Ng0S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 06:38:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0D716A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:38:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennyboy@cableone.net) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1432543D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:38:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennyboy@cableone.net) Received: from dualman.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.190.179]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22990343 for multiple; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:21:35 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:38:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Denny White To: Bill Schoolcraft In-Reply-To: <20050625052314.846.qmail@web52504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050625010653.A74347@dualman.cableone.net> References: <20050625052314.846.qmail@web52504.mail.yahoo.com> X-GPG-PUBLIC_KEY: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E OE67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 9, First 40, in=39, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.190.179 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Triple booted, no mouse with in 5.4 :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:38:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > Hello Family, > > I was totally stoked to get my first 64-bit PC, an AMD/Athlon and it > came with Windows-XP Pro, and I did what I always do and that's to then > install Linux then FreeBSD. All my machines work great like this with > the Linux bootloader doing the booting of WinXP/Linux/FreeBSD. > > The thing that bums me out is that the mouse works with WinXP and > SuSE-9.3 but there is no luck with the mouse with FreeBSD-5.4, KDE came > up just fine though. > > Per postings to the web I have added and removed and added the line to > /boot/device.hints of: > > hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" > > I also "enabled" and "disabled" ACPI in the BIOS too on various > attempts. > > I have ran: Xorg -configure and ran the file that it generated with > really bad results "then" deleted the generated file and made sure > /etc/X11 was empty and with no apparent config file got a great display > of kde when I started KDE, what file it used I don't know. I ran a > trace on "startx" (with a .xinitrc file containing startkde) and I > could not seem to determine it. I'm still used to /etc/X11/XF86Config > but there is none in the new 5.4 > > So, I really tried to find some solution to this and more or less hit a > brick wall. > > Thanks in advance for any help on this. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What I'm writing is very basic, but I just got an answer to a question where I'd forgotten a very basic thing, so don't get insulted. I may be way off base, being a relative newbie, but if so, it'll at least probably get a quicker response from somewhere else. :) 1) Are you still running GENERIC kernel? 2) Do you have /dev/psm0? 3) Do you have, in /etc/rc.conf moused_enable="YES"? 4) Do you have, in your kernel config file, # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device psm # PS/2 mouse 5) Do you show something like this in dmesg? psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 6) I know when you don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X will still probe & try to come up with a working solution, but as to where it stores it's settings, unless in the afore mentioned file, I don't know. 7) And if, after running without an xorg.conf file, it does have one it generated, does it have anything like this? # Identifier and driver Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" 8) There have been other posts about xorg.conf problems recently. As I said, if you don't configure it yourself, it'll try to probe & come up with something. I guess it's having trouble with your mouse, though, which, btw, you didn't mention what kind of mouse. Did you check the hardware compat list? Hope some of this helped. Denny White -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCvPvsy0Ty5RZE55oRAqXuAJ9AlZQPVix4Wlbyznuo27/Vt/JPOgCgmlsP Zc0l1pdCB1IOwexObMWmSbE= =yUMc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 06:42:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B4E16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:42:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from postfix4-1.free.fr (postfix4-1.free.fr [213.228.0.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE2F43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:42:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from masterpost (lns-vlq-7-lil-82-254-201-35.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.201.35]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80C2283D4E for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:42:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:42:24 +0200 From: mess-mate To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200506241731.13651.martin@orbweavers.co.uk> <08A3A012657D73D10A220154@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <08A3A012657D73D10A220154@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux on a i686 User-Agent: mutt-ng 1.5.9i (Linux) Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:42:26 -0000 ...snip... | | Personally, I like the "quick" keyword of the OpenBSD firewall, (but not enough to bother | installing it.) | | Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) I've a firewall/router/proxy with openbsd and think to replace it with freebsd 5.4 Do you mean freebsd's PF don't support the 'quick' keyword ?? Thought PF on freebsd and openbsd was identical, isn't ? mess-mate -- What I tell you three times is true. -- Lewis Carroll From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 06:43:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5736416A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:43:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1330443D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:43:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so51323wri for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:43:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iTPolsLxdEBga2aHbw1/1YTaGR1GAKijO/OZInHK5eXqaawpIqEw8j7gQtssC5le+IcpndeMHml1rcNP+X5V6D3TrcGdHSUJOJ+s5X5g5NPf6I7sQq7VWl6RWgaRdc4CYlibWLlKbw1pQCGUHvtgQcrIi3DPKqttFo60empcJt4= Received: by 10.54.54.4 with SMTP id c4mr1777526wra; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:43:40 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Hornet In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cacti updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:43:41 -0000 On 6/24/05, Hornet wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Since the new security release of cacti yesterday. I was wondering how > do I update the port? > I tried portupdgrade cacti -F but that did not seem to do anyhing. >=20 > A freind said that I needed to: > cvsup > make > make deinstall > make reinstall >=20 > Is there no way to patch it? I just upgraded my ports tree and there is indeed the latest version of this tool there. What's wrong with cvsup approach? Guess you can also download and install the binaries directly with pkg_add -r. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 06:59:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E1A16A421 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mansour_ameri@yahoo.com) Received: from web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18E2343D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mansour_ameri@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 84722 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 2005 06:59:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=go7hnppKV6HrPlRdlp9ohWFt33Km0/nMlFh4q3RmF8eqw8F7OL734T9df7qyVtfvbF1AaNd+7cJD4uGIdP/QQw6WIl48OYqKqtjdqKBLIdoavTEA2JD28eBXgryi4LDt27tQd7ouZ4m+RrOPfk/6VNQDDbgokKbShLCbnMaOv+0= ; Message-ID: <20050625065945.84720.qmail@web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.165.96.133] by web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:59:45 PDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: mansour ameri To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: About Mirror ... 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Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com --0-867292636-1119683912=:23093 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [63.204.157.14] by web52504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:01:16 PDT Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:01:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft Subject: Re: Triple booted, no mouse with in 5.4 :( To: Denny White In-Reply-To: <20050625010653.A74347@dualman.cableone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1646 --- Denny White wrote: > > What I'm writing is very basic, but I just got an answer > to a question where I'd forgotten a very basic thing, so > don't get insulted. I may be way off base, being a relative > newbie, but if so, it'll at least probably get a quicker > response from somewhere else. :) First off Denny, thanks for answering my email for help. Here goes.. > > 1) Are you still running GENERIC kernel? YES > 2) Do you have /dev/psm0? YES > 3) Do you have, in /etc/rc.conf > > moused_enable="YES"? Yes, manually entered it. > 4) Do you have, in your kernel config file, > > # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse > device psm # PS/2 mouse YES > 5) Do you show something like this in dmesg? > > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 > Yes, actually here is what it says: psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 > 6) I know when you don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X will > still probe & try to come up with a working solution, > but as to where it stores it's settings, unless in the > afore mentioned file, I don't know. > I'd love to see the file it generates for X looks "great" when I leave it alone and startkde with no files. > 7) And if, after running without an xorg.conf file, it does > have one it generated, does it have anything like this? I can't seem to find the one it's using, here are the results of a seach I did. I had one file in my home directory from another machine but that file is not named valid for use, here is the seach results. liam# find / -name "xorg.c*" /usr/X11R6/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/xorg.cf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/getconfig/xorg.cfg /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf.eg /usr/home/wiliweld/xorg.conf.new > > # Identifier and driver > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > > 8) There have been other posts about xorg.conf problems > recently. As I said, if you don't configure it yourself, > it'll try to probe & come up with something. I guess it's > having trouble with your mouse, though, which, btw, you > didn't mention what kind of mouse. Did you check the hardware > compat list? Hope some of this helped. The mouse I'm using works fine in another 32bit 5.4 machine and here is the seach path results: [root@bsd ~]-> find / -name "xorg.c*" -print /usr/X11R6/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/xorg.cf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/getconfig/xorg.cfg /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf.eg /root/xorg.conf.new And inside the last file there is the mouse settings of: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection I'll keep hacking Denny, thanks > > Denny White > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFCvPvsy0Ty5RZE55oRAqXuAJ9AlZQPVix4Wlbyznuo27/Vt/JPOgCgmlsP > Zc0l1pdCB1IOwexObMWmSbE= > =yUMc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com --0-867292636-1119683912=:23093-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 07:58:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1000116A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:58:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FAB43D55 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so60044wri for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rK9a2BYIY2Kl602MF7pLaw0fOF5pLGzotaML9shrL/7XXXRYQQ6TQxdBnDT+KtldbcDszqArI3G1/YPqnOThUq0pBh/xQVDFnIUknmFMGfCNOFxVcwdXZoG6U3xa+95L36HEPb2AooNrpgA6HS2DJkwjLH52XbPhBeWzX6lQqHc= Received: by 10.54.29.41 with SMTP id c41mr2272386wrc; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:08 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Lawrence Petrykanyn In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome2 Hangs at Splash Screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:58:09 -0000 On 6/25/05, Lawrence Petrykanyn wrote: > Hi! >=20 > I can't seem to get Gnome2 to work. I installed FreeBSD 5.4 > from scratch, installed Xorg (it works fine, I can get into Xterm) and ra= n > CVS (for both source and ports) and portupgrade several times. When I t= ry > to "startx" either as root or as a user, I get the initial Gnome 2.10 Spl= ash > Screen but nothing else. The mouse works fine. When I Ctl+Alt+Backspace= to > get out, there are no error messages. I did a "make deinstall" for Gnome= 2, > then a "make install clean" but nothing changed. >=20 > I have googled this but have found nothing. Any advice, > suggestions or comments would be appreciated. How does your .xinitrc file look like? --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 08:15:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1249E16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:15:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904E343D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:15:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5P8FuHA067689; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:15:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7FD2C6160; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:15:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:15:56 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050625081556.GB6938@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mess-mate References: <200506241731.13651.martin@orbweavers.co.uk> <08A3A012657D73D10A220154@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LwW0XdcUbUexiWVK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: mess-mate Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:15:59 -0000 --LwW0XdcUbUexiWVK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 08:42:24AM +0200, mess-mate wrote: > I've a firewall/router/proxy with openbsd and think to replace it > with freebsd 5.4 > Do you mean freebsd's PF don't support the 'quick' keyword ?? > Thought PF on freebsd and openbsd was identical, isn't ? I don't know if they're identical, but PF does support the 'quick' keyword on FreeBSD. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --LwW0XdcUbUexiWVK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCvRK8EnfvsMMhpyURAo09AJ9Qlqy3ZuwAxLJVW07QXHD6vkQ06gCeKHlf KNvPEuNNGdoBgQpYVsY6gmQ= =A0Ro -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LwW0XdcUbUexiWVK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 09:49:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B338C16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:49:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennyboy@cableone.net) Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7693843D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:49:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennyboy@cableone.net) Received: from dualman.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.190.179]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23778679 for multiple; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:14:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:49:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Denny White To: Bill Schoolcraft In-Reply-To: <20050625070116.19260.qmail@web52504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050625044510.I82994@dualman.cableone.net> References: <20050625070116.19260.qmail@web52504.mail.yahoo.com> X-GPG-PUBLIC_KEY: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E OE67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 9, First 52, in=56, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.190.179 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Triple booted, no mouse with in 5.4 :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:49:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 25 Jun 2005, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > --- Denny White wrote: >> >> What I'm writing is very basic, but I just got an answer >> to a question where I'd forgotten a very basic thing, so >> don't get insulted. I may be way off base, being a relative >> newbie, but if so, it'll at least probably get a quicker >> response from somewhere else. :) > > First off Denny, thanks for answering my email for help. Here goes.. >> >> 1) Are you still running GENERIC kernel? > > YES > >> 2) Do you have /dev/psm0? > > YES > >> 3) Do you have, in /etc/rc.conf >> >> moused_enable="YES"? > > Yes, manually entered it. > >> 4) Do you have, in your kernel config file, >> >> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse >> device psm # PS/2 mouse > > YES > >> 5) Do you show something like this in dmesg? >> >> psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 >> psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 >> > > Yes, actually here is what it says: > > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 > >> 6) I know when you don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf, X will >> still probe & try to come up with a working solution, >> but as to where it stores it's settings, unless in the >> afore mentioned file, I don't know. >> > > I'd love to see the file it generates for X looks "great" when I leave > it alone and startkde with no files. > >> 7) And if, after running without an xorg.conf file, it does >> have one it generated, does it have anything like this? > > I can't seem to find the one it's using, here are the results of a > seach I did. I had one file in my home directory from another machine > but that file is not named valid for use, here is the seach results. > > liam# find / -name "xorg.c*" > > /usr/X11R6/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/xorg.cf > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/getconfig/xorg.cfg > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf.eg > /usr/home/wiliweld/xorg.conf.new > >> >> # Identifier and driver >> >> Identifier "Mouse1" >> Driver "mouse" >> Option "Protocol" "Auto" >> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >> >> 8) There have been other posts about xorg.conf problems >> recently. As I said, if you don't configure it yourself, >> it'll try to probe & come up with something. I guess it's >> having trouble with your mouse, though, which, btw, you >> didn't mention what kind of mouse. Did you check the hardware >> compat list? Hope some of this helped. > > The mouse I'm using works fine in another 32bit 5.4 machine and here is > the seach path results: > > [root@bsd ~]-> find / -name "xorg.c*" -print > /usr/X11R6/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/xorg.cf > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/getconfig/xorg.cfg > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf.eg > /root/xorg.conf.new > > And inside the last file there is the mouse settings of: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > EndSection > > I'll keep hacking Denny, thanks > Sorry couldn't have been of more help. I almost fell asleep here, reading the man page on Xorg. At this point, that's my best suggestion. Hope you get it fixed. Denny White -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCvSity0Ty5RZE55oRAvBSAJ9Ad2hiAoC9tDogky4UxgPeoJIPUgCgwtQy iQzKVbbll0AuM6HKRqODciY= =Z2du -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 09:57:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF1516A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEC643D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id D173217B8AC; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:57:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26865-02-9; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:57:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBA517B8B5; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:57:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1655C22; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:57:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Warren Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:57:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506251157.54024.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:57:58 -0000 Warren wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 9:11 pm, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:35, Warren wrote: >> > ln >> > -s >> > /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su >> >pp ort/linux/drm/xf86drmRandom.c xf86drmRandom.c >> > rm -f xf86drmSL.c >> > ln >> > -s >> > /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su >> >pp ort/linux/drm/xf86drmSL.c xf86drmSL.c >> > make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop >> > *** Error code 2 >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/lib/GL. >> > *** Error code 1 >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. >> >> What commanad did you run? > > portupgrade -aDk -m BATCH=yes After this command that seems to skip ports that fail, what version of imake-4 and XFree86-4-libraries do you have installed? Dejan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 10:19:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6C916A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:19:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (62-14-217-85.inversas.jazztel.es [62.14.217.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BEC43D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.64] (unknown [192.168.0.64]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A12DFE63B; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:18:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BD2F9A.6050600@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:19:06 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050529) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mess-mate References: <200506241731.13651.martin@orbweavers.co.uk> <08A3A012657D73D10A220154@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> In-Reply-To: <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:19:17 -0000 mess-mate wrote: > I've a firewall/router/proxy with openbsd and think to replace it > with freebsd 5.4 > Do you mean freebsd's PF don't support the 'quick' keyword ?? > Thought PF on freebsd and openbsd was identical, isn't ? It's a port, pf on FBSD 5.4 is the same as pf on OBSD 3.6, AFAIK. So if your OBSD is the latest or updated after 3.6, then you might have functionalities not supported yet on FBSD. The basic stuff is all the same, I don't think anyone could survive without 'quick', just as 'pass' and 'block' are supported on both platforms :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 11:22:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7D716A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:22:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4355443D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:22:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:22:56 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:22:56 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050625112256.GA32433@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: upgrading all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:22:57 -0000 I want to do a portupgrade on all installed ports. What's the right way? "portupgrade -arR ?" or "portupgrade -a" ? I hesitate and don't want to screw up my machine. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 11:30:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99A916A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8F643D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:10003 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dm8rL-0009Z6-92; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:30:03 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFFA15437E; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DC558CBCF; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:30:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:29:55 +0200 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-Id: <20050625132955.6ebdad83.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050625112256.GA32433@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20050625112256.GA32433@lothlorien.nagual.st> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:30:09 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:22:56 +0200 Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I want to do a portupgrade on all installed ports. > > What's the right way? > "portupgrade -arR ?" > or > "portupgrade -a" ? > > I hesitate and don't want to screw up my machine. do you want to upgrade all upgradable ports on your machine ? i use portmanager -u and/or portupgrade -arvy i've started using portmanager since i've read good things about it many times, and it does indeed handle dependencies better than portupgrade however, if portmanager ends up with errors i use e.g. portupgrade -rf postgrey* to correct those errors i like the combination of both From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 11:36:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED68316A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:36:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (62-14-217-85.inversas.jazztel.es [62.14.217.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9218543D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:36:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.64] (unknown [192.168.0.64]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF10BFE63B; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:36:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BD41CC.70202@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:36:44 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050529) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Hoogendijk References: <20050625112256.GA32433@lothlorien.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050625112256.GA32433@lothlorien.nagual.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: upgrading all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:36:49 -0000 Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I want to do a portupgrade on all installed ports. > > What's the right way? > "portupgrade -arR ?" > or > "portupgrade -a" ? > > I hesitate and don't want to screw up my machine. > portupgrade isn't suitable for upgrading the entire machine, even though you do recursive and Recursive. It is much faster to deinstall everything and then installing from ground up. And it is far more secure in not screwing up. I recommend writing down a list of apps you need to be happy, deinstall everything and then install those apps. Dependencies comes along fine, and then whatever remains can be installed as needed. Anyway, the worst that can happen is that you will screw up some user app's - ok this is bad - but your system won't require a reinstall :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 11:38:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5B16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dlee.org) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677EC43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dlee.org) Received: from kirk.dlee.org ([69.143.16.144]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050625113822014004gbaee>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:38:22 +0000 Received: from kirk.dlee.org (dgl@localhost.dlee.org [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.dlee.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PBcLim046377; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:38:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dlee.org) Received: (from dgl@localhost) by kirk.dlee.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j5PBcKag046376; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:38:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgl) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:38:20 -0400 From: Doug Lee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050625113819.GI950@kirk.dlee.org> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Lee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: BART Group User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Is this a safe way to multi-home a mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:38:23 -0000 I have a machine on two DSL networks: a /29 and a /28 provided by different ISPS (why is a long story). The machine acts as a mail server (sendmail) as well as a NAT server for an internal network. Both DSL nets arrive at one interface card, and the LAN is on the other card. I have added one of the DSL nets as the main net for the external interface and the other DSL net as an alias via ifconfig. Two questions: 1. Can I have both host IPs (one from each DSL net) as A records in DNS for the mail server's name--e.g., mail.my.domain IN A 1.2.3.4 mail.my.domain IN A 5.6.7.8 and expect mail to arrive at the machine regardless of which network is working at any given time? (Part of the "long story" is that we're having serious trouble with one or the other network at various times and are trying, temporarily at least, to stay afloat by using whichever is better at the moment.) Both host IPs have correct (identical) reverse DNS. 2. Is there a way, via routed or other means, to cause the machine to figure out automatically which net to use for "default" traffic? It would be wonderful if natd could keep up with this too, but there I suspect I'm asking for the moon... Thanks much for any responses. Please Cc me. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org BART Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither leisure nor science from the height of society." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 11:50:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D888416A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:50:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anand.srikantaiah@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8689443D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:50:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anand.srikantaiah@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so146956rns for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:50:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nCkqyQkoh7D/ay2Ljo7YR66tsVMjCytxchlpesxKgLY7h2xNKp46F1FV5qHq7uF6gTq4J4q7n+uGo+PAmg9MUaN+LkKHenjxk5rf0E02fP3MA+wcwnT5GX7cJu8YJRm99tTx0coorYNYQFmR/WN4rV+6vaZusbnQHRdn47YGBqo= Received: by 10.38.195.36 with SMTP id s36mr110389rnf; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.65 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19c9012205062504503ba33e38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:20:06 +0530 From: anand srikantaiah To: questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Need help with DSL setup in FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: anand srikantaiah List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:50:07 -0000 Hi i am using FreeBSD 5.4 from past few weeks, i am new to this but eager= =20 to learn. I was using RedHat 7.3 for past 1 Year ans now switched to FreeBSD. I am= =20 not able to configure my DSL conectin can any one help please From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 12:11:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CDC16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:11:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iampure@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3B143D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:11:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iampure@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i27so72749wra for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:11:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s8wWFY0LhkfyVzv4g4AnMceEPKNsEG8lGvg74Pwit5sJEoYgxn1bWSf0ruUgdYj2Qs5YcSMK6KDTgnmygqCeYxMEZb7PkJbNhF+zIcRCZoaP+PsuTzFwBV6/v4uvLcFtDvMlTHrN3GJUHBuTF2a3jlzEg4yw4ycyKjfKICDFvnw= Received: by 10.54.96.5 with SMTP id t5mr1537059wrb; 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Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crucis@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1AE43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crucis@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i20so74517wra for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DUdlet26ZZiLL8XHbDM/iXKZ7TVDBi2j+GFBN+uzQS7bOIjh2lVZce2nwTz82QRkjxxYfzAiXJ7oVU1tZNdgelkbNwuMNeQKeHpWTrWwZViPmT6j+FiwkbxJQJYCOjr5qTUKytCipjhJLHdB+VqXEQetCpO7GFc387i07tNxGXU= Received: by 10.54.52.32 with SMTP id z32mr1546985wrz; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.23 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <79f6965805062505227c04a54e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:22:25 +0800 From: Crucis To: anand srikantaiah In-Reply-To: <19c9012205062504503ba33e38@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <19c9012205062504503ba33e38@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help with DSL setup in FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Crucis List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:26 -0000 Are you using adsl? If so, cd to /usr/ports/net/qadsl and read the makefile On 6/25/05, anand srikantaiah wrote: >=20 > Hi i am using FreeBSD 5.4 from past few weeks, i am new to this but eager > to learn. > I was using RedHat 7.3 for past 1 Year ans now switched to FreeBSD. I am > not able to configure my DSL conectin can any one help please > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 12:28:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16B616A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaco@coocoo.za.net) Received: from riot.premsoft.co.za (mail.accountmate.co.za [196.38.54.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1E643D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaco@coocoo.za.net) Received: (qmail 65028 invoked by uid 1003); 25 Jun 2005 12:22:36 -0000 Received: from jaco@coocoo.za.net by riot.premsoft.co.za by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamscan: 0.65. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 14.154578 secs); 25 Jun 2005 12:22:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO webmail.premsoft.co.za) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 12:22:21 -0000 Received: from 196.37.144.111 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jaco@coocoo.za.net) by webmail.premsoft.co.za with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:22:21 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <3177.196.37.144.111.1119702141.squirrel@webmail.premsoft.co.za> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:22:21 +0200 (SAST) From: jaco@coocoo.za.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Intel SE7320VP2 board + Marvell 88E8050 nic. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:28:21 -0000 Hello all, OK, I did not get any feedback on my previous post about this topic. Doesn't anyone know if FreeBSD supports this hardware, or ? I know now for a fact that the Marvell NIC is NOT supported, but what about the rest of the hardware, like the RAID controller, etc? Must I maybe post more information about this board? I mean, it's like an entry level Intel server board, I just want to hear from somebody that is using it that it actually works with FreeBSD (well, excluding the second NIC of course. ;)) Anyone? Even if it is just "Do not buy that, it will not work." Thank you in advance. ---Jaco >Hi all, > >I am not quite sure if this question belongs on freebsd-questions@ or >freebsd-current@ , but I will try here first. > >Does anyone know the status of the support for Marvell gigabit nic's ? >Escpecially the ones that is shipped with the Intel SE7320VP2 Server board >which is Marvell 88E8050. > >I read in the archives that somebody is busy working on it, but I can not >seem to locate any more info on this. > >Basically I do not care if there is support for 1000Mbit, I just want to >use the card, even if it is in 100Mbit mode. :) > >I want to use this on 5.4-STABLE or maybe 6-CURRENT, seeing that 6-CURRENT >is more or less stable (well, way more than 5-CURRENT was in the early >days anyway :P ). > >Does anyone perhaps know if this is possible? > >Thank you in advance. >--Jaco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 12:50:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A30016A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crucis@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DCD43D1D for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crucis@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so75504wri for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:50:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hWpTO6sZQ9pP85WxtvhTrFJqfDNIyeThqymo+wclvm7rgEtWmItbAoFa7ucwjjJWq+c2j70jSuvXXFreLz1ivcHI1UcWjYfpOyHj5ZsQQrYcTA+KUzUJxBW1gCul+u7WQllsRXQ2UwVxLVZc6an3Mm4vangJEiGnP5d8ob23wHQ= Received: by 10.54.107.9 with SMTP id f9mr2423081wrc; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.23 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <79f6965805062505507838426@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:50:16 +0800 From: Crucis To: anand srikantaiah In-Reply-To: <19c9012205062505439594737@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <19c9012205062504503ba33e38@mail.gmail.com> <79f6965805062505227c04a54e@mail.gmail.com> <19c9012205062505439594737@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help with DSL setup in FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Crucis List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:50:17 -0000 You might want to try installing qadsl then.. and try running it On 6/25/05, anand srikantaiah wrote: >=20 > Yes i am using ADSL >=20 > On 6/25/05, Crucis wrote:=20 > >=20 > > Are you using adsl? If so, cd to /usr/ports/net/qadsl and read the=20 > > makefile > >=20 > > On 6/25/05, anand srikantaiah < anand.srikantaiah@gmail.com> wrote: > >=20 > > > Hi i am using FreeBSD 5.4 from past few weeks, i am new to this but= =20 > > > eager=20 > > > to learn. > > > I was using RedHat 7.3 for past 1 Year ans now switched to FreeBSD. I= =20 > > > am > > > not able to configure my DSL conectin can any one help please=20 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "=20 > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 13:02:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A5F16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:02:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregorynou@altern.org) Received: from esemetz.metz.supelec.fr (esemetz.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BCA43D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:02:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregorynou@altern.org) Received: from [193.48.225.2] (nou.rez-metz.supelec.fr [193.48.225.2]) by esemetz.metz.supelec.fr (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id j5PD2ST27643 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:02:28 +0200 Message-ID: <42BD55E7.1050904@altern.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:02:31 +0200 From: Gregory Nou User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010403050203060106060506" Subject: make buildworkd fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:02:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010403050203060106060506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ! I'm currently using a 6.0-current : FreeBSD myhost 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Jun 9 00:12:03 CEST 2005 greg@myhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 When making buildworld, I get this : (makeinfo), uid0 : exited on signal 11 on the current screen, and the attached problem.txt on the console running the make buildworld (lots of "Too many errors" before, so I don't know what exactly went wrong) . My last cvsup is from today morning, but I have this problem for at least 2 weeks, since a update went wrong. (even if I repaired with a 5.3-release CD-ROM) What should I do ? Thanks -- Grégory --------------010403050203060106060506 Content-Type: text/plain; name="problem.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="problem.txt" Too many errors! Gave up. Too many errors! Gave up. *** Signal 11 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. zsh: exit 1 make buildworld --------------010403050203060106060506-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 13:04:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92A416A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:04:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D22543D5C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:04:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DmAKS-0005hE-AR; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:04:12 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:05:04 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> <42BD2F9A.6050600@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <42BD2F9A.6050600@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200506250805.04635.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc6b560bc90d1b97cca1635cd46b4d7362350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: mess-mate Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:04:15 -0000 On Saturday 25 June 2005 05:19 am, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > mess-mate wrote: > > I've a firewall/router/proxy with openbsd and think to replace it > > with freebsd 5.4 > > Do you mean freebsd's PF don't support the 'quick' keyword ?? > > Thought PF on freebsd and openbsd was identical, isn't ? > > It's a port, pf on FBSD 5.4 is the same as pf on OBSD 3.6, AFAIK. So > if your OBSD is the latest or updated after 3.6, then you might have > functionalities not supported yet on FBSD. > > The basic stuff is all the same, I don't think anyone could survive > without 'quick', just as 'pass' and 'block' are supported on both > platforms :-) > > Cheers, Erik Minor correction: pf is built into the kernel by default in FreeBSD=20 5.4. I think this started with FreeBSD 5.3. It may still be in the=20 ports system; but that would be for use in FreeBSD 4* and earlier=20 versions of 5*. Have a great weekend! Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 13:04:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7740916A440 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:04:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCB943D1D for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:04:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1DmAKZ-000Frw-CC; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:04:19 -0400 Received: from 24.99.220.144 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3827.24.99.220.144.1119704659.squirrel@24.99.220.144> In-Reply-To: <20050625113819.GI950@kirk.dlee.org> References: <20050625113819.GI950@kirk.dlee.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Bell" To: "Doug Lee" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this a safe way to multi-home a mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:04:24 -0000 I believe the problem you are going to run into is with outbound routing. You're only able to have one default route, which will point you out one dsl router or the other. If the ISP that is your default dies, then your traffic isn't going anywhere. Depending on what problems the ISP's are having, you may able to overcome the problem by using dynamic routing from the routers to the BSD server. If you can get that to work, you're most of the way there. The other problem I see is that when everything is working good and traffic comes in on the secondary ISP, your return traffic is going to be sent out the default route, not necessarily the one that came in. This may be a problem if your ISP's are performing egress filtering, preventing IP's that aren't their own from leaving out of their network (this is a good practice, btw). If you can either work out an arrangement with the ISP's on the filtering (if it exists) or you can set things up such that mail doesn't come into the secondary ISP unless the primary is down, and you have dymanic routing set up, I think this will work pretty well. Jerry http://www.syslog.org > I have a machine on two DSL networks: a /29 and a /28 provided by > different ISPS (why is a long story). The machine acts as a mail > server (sendmail) as well as a NAT server for an internal network. > Both DSL nets arrive at one interface card, and the LAN is on the > other card. I have added one of the DSL nets as the main net for the > external interface and the other DSL net as an alias via ifconfig. > > Two questions: > > 1. Can I have both host IPs (one from each DSL net) as A records in > DNS for the mail server's name--e.g., > > mail.my.domain IN A 1.2.3.4 > mail.my.domain IN A 5.6.7.8 > > and expect mail to arrive at the machine regardless of which network > is working at any given time? (Part of the "long story" is that we're > having serious trouble with one or the other network at various times > and are trying, temporarily at least, to stay afloat by using > whichever is better at the moment.) Both host IPs have correct > (identical) reverse DNS. > > 2. Is there a way, via routed or other means, to cause the machine to > figure out automatically which net to use for "default" traffic? It > would be wonderful if natd could keep up with this too, but there I > suspect I'm asking for the moon... > > Thanks much for any responses. Please Cc me. > > > -- > Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org > BART Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com > "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor > and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither > leisure nor science from the height of society." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 13:13:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308AB16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:13:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-08.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E4CC43D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:13:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 1643 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2005 13:13:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (202.161.9.197) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 13:13:06 -0000 From: Warren To: Dejan Lesjak Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:10:46 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506251157.54024.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <200506251157.54024.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506252310.47034.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:13:09 -0000 > After this command that seems to skip ports that fail, what version of > imake-4 and XFree86-4-libraries do you have installed? > > > Dejan What ever is the latest version as i did a CVSUP and portupgrade as of 24 June 2005 and the above port is the only one that failed. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 13:48:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A40716A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44ABE43D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4A917B881; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:48:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 37585-01-8; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:48:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9BC17B8B5; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:48:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBA35C22; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:48:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Warren Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:48:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506251157.54024.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <200506252310.47034.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200506252310.47034.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506251548.53950.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:48:57 -0000 On Saturday 25 of June 2005 15:10, Warren wrote: > > After this command that seems to skip ports that fail, what version of > > imake-4 and XFree86-4-libraries do you have installed? > > > > > > Dejan > > What ever is the latest version as i did a CVSUP and portupgrade as of 24 > June 2005 and the above port is the only one that failed. You can check with pkg_info(1). You should have imake-4.5.0. The file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/X11.tmpl should include the following: #ifndef DRMIncludesDir #define DRMIncludesDir $(XF86OSSRC)/shared/drm/kernel #endif If it does not, you should (re)install devel/imake-4 port. Dejan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 13:49:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A93816A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:49:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FE743D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:49:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22996916 for multiple; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:32:36 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:51:42 -0500 From: "Z.C.B." To: Benjamin Keating Message-ID: <20050625085142.340eff58@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> References: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 3, First 37, in=47, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:49:35 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 Benjamin Keating wrote: > I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a > quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board > (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? > I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new > and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good heat sink. As for a place to shop, I've found newegg.com to be nice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 13:49:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8763816A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:49:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F90843D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:49:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from SPECULUSHX1THE (81-178-228-87.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.228.87]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AE22FE000114 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:49:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <028601c5798c$be8fe1d0$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> From: "cali" To: References: <006201c57678$8919ce10$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:48:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: matlab mex files on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:49:51 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "cali" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: matlab mex files on FreeBSD > Has anyone managed to get matlab mex files compiling and running properly > with matlab on FreeBSD? I'm still interested in this question because I don't know if my solution below totally solves the problem. > I suppose the problem is that matlab is a Linux binary and matlab is > running in Linux ABI mode, but the compiler is compiling to FreeBSD > native, or something? It's obvious that this was the problem, one can fix it by changing the compilers pointed to in the glnx86 section of /compat/linux/usr/local/matlab/bin/mexopts.sh to CC='/compat/linux/usr/bin/cc' CXX='/compat/linux/usr/bin/g++' and possibly FC='/compat/linux/usr/bin/f77' (not sure if this is necessary because I didn't try compiling fortran files yet) Just changing the compiler seems to work, at least for simple files anyway. If anyone else has experience, please let me know. Cali From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 14:03:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A7D16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:03:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDB243D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:03:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22997450 for multiple; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:46:40 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:05:47 -0500 From: "Z.C.B." Message-ID: <20050625090547.626152ce@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050625085142.340eff58@vixen42.local.lan> References: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> <20050625085142.340eff58@vixen42.local.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 37, in=48, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: Benjamin Keating , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:03:38 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:51:42 -0500 "Z.C.B." wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 > Benjamin Keating wrote: > > > I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a > > quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board > > (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? > > I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new > > and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? > > > I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather > nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz > Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good > heat sink. > > As for a place to shop, I've found newegg.com to be nice. N/M just noticed the question was about mini-itx, not micro-atx. ^_^ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 14:17:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4C216A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr (postfix4-2.free.fr [213.228.0.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEC043D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from masterpost (lns-vlq-7-lil-82-254-201-35.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.201.35]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89611320249 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:17:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by eric.placeverte.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 92E9713FB0; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:17:01 +0200 From: mess-mate To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050625141701.GB6100@masterpost> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> <42BD2F9A.6050600@locolomo.org> <200506250805.04635.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506250805.04635.algould@datawok.com> X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux on a i686 User-Agent: mutt-ng 1.5.9i (Linux) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:03 -0000 Andrew L. Gould wrote: | On Saturday 25 June 2005 05:19 am, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: | > mess-mate wrote: | > > I've a firewall/router/proxy with openbsd and think to replace it | > > with freebsd 5.4 | > > Do you mean freebsd's PF don't support the 'quick' keyword ?? | > > Thought PF on freebsd and openbsd was identical, isn't ? | > | > It's a port, pf on FBSD 5.4 is the same as pf on OBSD 3.6, AFAIK. So | > if your OBSD is the latest or updated after 3.6, then you might have | > functionalities not supported yet on FBSD. | > | > The basic stuff is all the same, I don't think anyone could survive | > without 'quick', just as 'pass' and 'block' are supported on both | > platforms :-) | > | > Cheers, Erik |=20 | Minor correction: pf is built into the kernel by default in FreeBSD=20 | 5.4. I think this started with FreeBSD 5.3. It may still be in the=20 | ports system; but that would be for use in FreeBSD 4* and earlier=20 | versions of 5*. |=20 | Have a great weekend! |=20 | Andrew Gould |=20 The openbsd version is 3.5. Can i porting the pf config file to freebsd ? great weekend to. mess-mate =20 -- There is a 20% chance of tomorrow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 14:23:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902A016A41F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732D943D53 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 334F51800130 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:23:49 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 25 Jun 2005 14:23:49 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1E3F04BEAD; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:23:49 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:23:49 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" To: questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:23:49 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050625142349.1E3F04BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Cc: Subject: Let's update FreeBSD vs Linux vs Windows XP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:23:49 -0000 Hello! We've all tried advocating FreeBSD by showing our friends the infamous http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html comparison. But despite its excellent, it has lost its integrity because its age. Many things have changed since then, and on behalf of all those who enjoy advocating FreeBSD: It's time we bring the truth out. What do you all say? Instead of bugging Mr Murray Stokely about updating it, why don't we just update it in this thread? If everybody could contribute their bit of truth, I am willing to compile it into a nicely written (and designed*) sequence of TXT, HTML and PDF and post it back here. It is very important to get this situation straight. So we all know where we stand.=20 I have put an easier version of the comparison up at: http://www.home.no/hedhnta/versus.txt So please post corrections referring to each paragraph. It would also be nice to include Mac OS X in this comparison. * In line with: http://identity.berkeley.edu/downloads/ucb_design_style.pdf Thank you all! Now let's get down to work! -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.bleed.no --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 14:34:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD1816A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:34:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA3C943D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jun 2005 14:34:27 -0000 Received: from p548B61BD.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO localhost) [84.139.97.189] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 16:34:27 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5114400 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:34:25 +0200 From: Mario Hoerich To: anand srikantaiah Message-ID: <20050625143424.GA646@Pandora.MHoerich.de> References: <19c9012205062504503ba33e38@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <19c9012205062504503ba33e38@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need help with DSL setup in FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:34:30 -0000 # anand srikantaiah: > I was using RedHat 7.3 for past 1 Year ans now switched to FreeBSD. I am > not able to configure my DSL conectin can any one help please Since you're a bit sparse on details, I can only suggest to read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip.html My own /etc/ppp/ppp.conf looks like this: tdsl: set device PPPoE:ed0 set MTU 1492 set MRU 1492 set dial set crtscts off set speed sync accept lqr disable deflate disable pred1 disable vjcomp disable acfcomp disable protocomp disable ipv6cp set log Chat Connect Radius Phase LCP IPCP CCP Warning Error Alert set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.10.10.20/0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR set login set authname set authkey Maybe this'll get you started. Mario -- "Für Gegner der Reform wird ein Wagen, der an die Wand gefahren wurde, nicht dadurch wieder flott, dass man zwei seiner Räder für intakt erklärt." -- Hermann Unterstöger, SZ, über die Rechtschraipreform From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 14:51:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200C216A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:51:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542A543D53 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:51:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 7720 invoked by uid 510); 25 Jun 2005 14:51:59 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.86.1/957. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 14:51:57 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1119711117.5921.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:51:57 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CVS Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:51:52 -0000 Hiya, I'm trying to update to 6.0-CURRENT and I am having some problems with this. I have read the handbook etc, but when I run cvsup, it deletes the /usr/src tree rather than updating it. I have src-all uncommented. I am using a uk mirror so that maybe the problem. Basically, can someone give me some guidance as what I should have in the supfile, particularly the tag= and what host I should use. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 15:21:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C385E16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:21:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB1A43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:21:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a206.otenet.gr [212.205.215.206]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5PFLT0l008718; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:21:29 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5PFLQCx047229; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:21:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5PFLQLD047228; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:21:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:21:24 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Robert Slade Message-ID: <20050625152124.GA47119@gothmog.gr> References: <1119711117.5921.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1119711117.5921.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:21:37 -0000 On 2005-06-25 14:51, Robert Slade wrote: > Hiya, > > I'm trying to update to 6.0-CURRENT and I am having some problems with > this. I have read the handbook etc, but when I run cvsup, it deletes the > /usr/src tree rather than updating it. I have src-all uncommented. I am > using a uk mirror so that maybe the problem. Show us your supfile, so we can see what differences it has from: /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile > Basically, can someone give me some guidance as what I should have in > the supfile, particularly the tag= and what host I should use. Yes. Use the example supfiles provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup: # cvs up -g -L 2 -h CVSUPX.FREEBSD.ORG /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 15:23:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F349816A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB44543D53 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a206.otenet.gr [212.205.215.206]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5PFNPdc024719; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:23:26 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5PFNOcN047269; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:23:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5PFNOrL047268; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:23:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:23:24 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz Message-ID: <20050625152324.GB47119@gothmog.gr> References: <20050625142349.1E3F04BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050625142349.1E3F04BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Let's update FreeBSD vs Linux vs Windows XP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:23:29 -0000 On 2005-06-25 09:23, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: > > Hello! > > We've all tried advocating FreeBSD by showing our friends the [...] PLEASE STOP CROSS-POSTING TO MULTIPLE LISTS. This is either advocacy stuff, and should appear in freebsd-advocacy and *ONLY* there, or a question and should appear *ONLY* here, in freebsd-questions. It cannot be both, though, so DO NOT cross-post. Thanks, in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 15:33:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F6116A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:33:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CD343D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:33:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DmCfE-000131-JW; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:33:48 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:34:40 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200506250805.04635.algould@datawok.com> <20050625141701.GB6100@masterpost> In-Reply-To: <20050625141701.GB6100@masterpost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200506251034.40965.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bca2d78b9b369c9d667bd82f69f758decd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: mess-mate Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:33:49 -0000 On Saturday 25 June 2005 09:17 am, mess-mate wrote: > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > | On Saturday 25 June 2005 05:19 am, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > | > mess-mate wrote: > | > > I've a firewall/router/proxy with openbsd and think to replace > | > > it with freebsd 5.4 > | > > Do you mean freebsd's PF don't support the 'quick' keyword ?? > | > > Thought PF on freebsd and openbsd was identical, isn't ? > | > > | > It's a port, pf on FBSD 5.4 is the same as pf on OBSD 3.6, AFAIK. > | > So if your OBSD is the latest or updated after 3.6, then you > | > might have functionalities not supported yet on FBSD. > | > > | > The basic stuff is all the same, I don't think anyone could > | > survive without 'quick', just as 'pass' and 'block' are supported > | > on both platforms :-) > | > > | > Cheers, Erik > | > | Minor correction: pf is built into the kernel by default in > | FreeBSD 5.4. I think this started with FreeBSD 5.3. It may still > | be in the ports system; but that would be for use in FreeBSD 4* and > | earlier versions of 5*. > | > | Have a great weekend! > | > | Andrew Gould > > The openbsd version is 3.5. > Can i porting the pf config file to freebsd ? > great weekend to. > > mess-mate If you're talking about the pf rules file, I think it should work once=20 you've changed any OS-specific device/interface names. You might=20 compare the file installed by default in FreeBSD to the one you're=20 currently using before you make the change. Also, I wouldn't make the=20 change from a remote location. ;-) Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 16:05:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC3116A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:05:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A31843D55 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:05:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 8339 invoked by uid 510); 25 Jun 2005 16:05:10 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.86.1/957. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-2.0/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 16:05:07 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050625152124.GA47119@gothmog.gr> References: <1119711117.5921.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> <20050625152124.GA47119@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1119715507.5921.14.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:05:07 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: CVS Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:05:02 -0000 On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 15:21, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-06-25 14:51, Robert Slade wrote: > > Hiya, > > > > I'm trying to update to 6.0-CURRENT and I am having some problems with > > this. I have read the handbook etc, but when I run cvsup, it deletes the > > /usr/src tree rather than updating it. I have src-all uncommented. I am > > using a uk mirror so that maybe the problem. > > Show us your supfile, so we can see what differences it has from: > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile > > > Basically, can someone give me some guidance as what I should have in > > the supfile, particularly the tag= and what host I should use. > > Yes. Use the example supfiles provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup: > > # cvs up -g -L 2 -h CVSUPX.FREEBSD.ORG /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile > Giorgos, Thanks, It looks like the problem was with using a uk host. Moving to the to the main sites seems to have worked at least it's running now. I'm trying it with tag=. Hopefully this will give me what I need. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 16:14:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEE316A41C; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:14:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AA943D48; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5PGFXb44088; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:15:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Warren" , "Daniel O'Connor" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:14:26 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200506242117.29688.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:14:46 -0000 Warren, Why are you building xfree86? FreeBSD 5.4 uses Xorg. It's just about the same code just different licensing. I don't think the FreeBSD core is bothering to keep the xfree86 port working on FreeBSD 5.X just FreeBSD 4.11 Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Warren >Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:17 AM >To: Daniel O'Connor >Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed > > >On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 9:11 pm, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:35, Warren wrote: >> > ln >> > -s >> > >/usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfre >e86/os-su >> >pp ort/linux/drm/xf86drmRandom.c xf86drmRandom.c >> > rm -f xf86drmSL.c >> > ln >> > -s >> > >/usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfre >e86/os-su >> >pp ort/linux/drm/xf86drmSL.c xf86drmSL.c >> > make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop >> > *** Error code 2 >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/lib/GL. >> > *** Error code 1 >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. >> >> What commanad did you run? > >portupgrade -aDk -m BATCH=yes >> What version of FreeBSD are you running? >5.4-STABLE >> When did you last cvsup your ports tree? >Just before doing PortUpgrade before sending the 1st email >> Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? >cant say as i did. > >-- >Yours Sincerely >Shinjii >http://www.shinji.nq.nu >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 16:42:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417D116A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:42:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D4443D1D for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:43:25 +0100 Message-ID: <42BD8983.1000303@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:42:43 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <20050625112256.GA32433@lothlorien.nagual.st> <42BD41CC.70202@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <42BD41CC.70202@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2005 16:43:25.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[01EB9BF0:01C579A5] Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: upgrading all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:42:46 -0000 Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > >> I want to do a portupgrade on all installed ports. >> >> What's the right way? >> "portupgrade -arR ?" >> or >> "portupgrade -a" ? >> >> I hesitate and don't want to screw up my machine. >> > portupgrade isn't suitable for upgrading the entire machine, even=20 > though you do recursive and Recursive. What, in your opinion, makes it unsuitable? I've used portugrade=20 exclusively and never had trouble. Portmanager, on the other hand, core dumped the very first time I ran=20 it. A send-pr was closed with a message to contact the port maintainer, = and an email to the port maintainer never received a reply. Didn't=20 exactly inspire my confidence. In reply to the original question, I would use -arR, but only after=20 reading /usr/ports/UPDATING. If there are a lot to do, I tend to only=20 do a few at a time. Nor do I ever "automate" the process by trying to=20 run it from a cronjob or similar, a) because some ports have a habit of=20 stopping to ask you questions and b) because I don't always want to=20 upgrade everything. If something is critical to me (e.g. Mozilla) I=20 want the time to evaluate that the upgrade worked, and not have it=20 happen without me realising right in the middle of being busy with=20 something more important. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 16:45:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BB616A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB0A43D53 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-65-31-41-46.woh.res.rr.com [65.31.41.46]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j5PGjbXV000553 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c579a5$50bf0d70$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:45:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: updating perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:45:41 -0000 Hello, Trying to update my perl port from 5.8.6 to 5.8.7. The updating of perl itself went fine, but all the dependent ports on it like swatch, php, etc. previously referenced modules that were included in 5.8.6, now they're not working. What extra step do i do? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 16:49:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B2416A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from webster@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25AB43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:49:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from webster@es.net) Received: from adsl-63-206-71-69 ([63.206.71.69]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ASMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:49:07 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:49:07 -0700 From: John Webster To: dave , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <69E076B1F727F645D1D6CFBC@adsl-63-206-71-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <000501c579a5$50bf0d70$0200a8c0@satellite> References: <000501c579a5$50bf0d70$0200a8c0@satellite> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="==========DE2C86861C9CE46517DF==========" Cc: Subject: Re: updating perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:49:09 -0000 --==========DE2C86861C9CE46517DF========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Read /usr/ports/UPDATING: 20050624: AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.8 AUTHOR: tobez@FreeBSD.org lang/perl5.8 has been updated to 5.8.7. You should update everything depending on perl. The easiest way to do that is to use perl-after-upgrade script supplied with lang/perl5.8. Please see its manual page for details. --On Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:45:37 -0400 dave wrote: > Hello, > Trying to update my perl port from 5.8.6 to 5.8.7. The updating of perl > itself went fine, but all the dependent ports on it like swatch, php, etc. > previously referenced modules that were included in 5.8.6, now they're not > working. What extra step do i do? > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --==========DE2C86861C9CE46517DF========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCvYsDBf+aYL5/Y60RAhI0AJwIYf/6FhKx+torPN0zBIICcl03HgCg35Jb +dJsqZ6yq0kA0VwNOPVFz94= =ItcD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========DE2C86861C9CE46517DF==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 17:02:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5468516A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:02:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEC643D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:02:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:02:42 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:02:42 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050625170242.GA29532@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <000501c579a5$50bf0d70$0200a8c0@satellite> <69E076B1F727F645D1D6CFBC@adsl-63-206-71-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <69E076B1F727F645D1D6CFBC@adsl-63-206-71-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: Re: updating perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:02:44 -0000 On 25 Jun John Webster wrote: > Read /usr/ports/UPDATING: > > 20050624: > AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.8 > AUTHOR: tobez@FreeBSD.org > > lang/perl5.8 has been updated to 5.8.7. You should update > everything depending on perl. The easiest way to do that is > to use perl-after-upgrade script supplied with lang/perl5.8. > Please see its manual page for details. In other words: run "perl-after-upgrade" (note the remarks) run "perl-after-upgrade -f" (to make the changes) Never updated a perl version easier before! What a relief.. this script :-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 17:15:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A10516A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:15:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C426A43D1D for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:15:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F52D21CDA9 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:15:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01232-11 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:15:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4305E21CD76 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:15:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:15:17 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050625112256.GA32433@lothlorien.nagual.st> <42BD41CC.70202@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <42BD41CC.70202@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1733172.9IBHiXCGES"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506251215.23198.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: upgrading all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:15:47 -0000 --nextPart1733172.9IBHiXCGES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 25 June 2005 06:36 am, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > It is much faster to deinstall everything and then installing from > ground up. And it is far more secure in not screwing up. On toy systems, maybe. I've got 654 ports installed on the machine I'm typ= ing=20 this on, and I assure you that it's much, much faster to selectively upgrad= e=20 a few of them rather than starting over from scratch. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1733172.9IBHiXCGES Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCvZEr5sRg+Y0CpvERAtF8AJ9X0aZS2D05aMyMVjcXSvSV6p9DngCfXDp/ Ik+PE4/PJsUN0EXu9DrOQq8= =rlWB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1733172.9IBHiXCGES-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 18:18:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15D416A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:18:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: from hosting.sourcit.net (mail3.eitsolutions.net [68.23.20.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5770B43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:18:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: (qmail 5702 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2005 13:18:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 13:18:01 -0500 Received: from AL1-24.207.169.154.charter-stl.com (AL1-24.207.169.154.charter-stl.com [24.207.169.154]) by webmail.reallm.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:18:00 -0500 Message-ID: <20050625131800.nh323ywrupxc4s4w@webmail.reallm.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:18:00 -0500 From: Bryan Maynard To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) Subject: ndis0 dhcp question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:18:02 -0000 Hello all! :-D I have a Linksys WPC11 ver.4 wireless NIC. I got it setup using ndisgen (very cool tool by the way). Now when kldload /root/rtl8180_sys.ko (the location of my wireless kernel object) dmesg shows this: ndis0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x88 000000-0x880001ff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:66:cf:10:7e ndis0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps and when I run ifconfig -a I get this: ::My onboard ethernet NIC xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=9 inet6 fe80::204:76ff:fe48:9301%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.1.101 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:04:76:48:93:01 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active ::I don't know what this is. . . plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 ::Loopback device lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 ::My Linksys WPC11 ver.4 ndis0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:0f:66:cf:10:7e media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid "" channel -1 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 rtsthreshold 2312 protmode CTS wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 I have several questions, but I'll ask them one at a time. . . I have a Linksys WRT54G Wireless Router. Currently my onboard NIC is what I use to access the net and stuff. How do I assign an IP address - and any other needed parameters - to my wireless NIC, activate it, and use it instead of (or along with) my onboard ethernet NIC? I know about using ifconfig blah blah blah, but what paramaters do I pass and where do I get them? Thanks, Bryan -- Open Source: by the people, for the people. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 18:25:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A7D16A41C; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:25:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736D943D1F; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:25:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id DAF89A19; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:25:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:25:14 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20050625182514.GA635@soaustin.net> References: <200506242117.29688.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Warren , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:25:16 -0000 On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 09:14:26AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Why are you building xfree86? FreeBSD 5.4 uses Xorg. It's > just about the same code just different licensing. I don't think the > FreeBSD core is bothering to keep the xfree86 port working on FreeBSD 5.X > just FreeBSD 4.11 I'm sorry, but this is wrong on almost all counts. The default X server that is installed by the base for 5.4 is indeed xorg, but both XFree and xorg are being actively maintained. A great deal of work goes into keeping both X servers working on the active source branches. As for the licensing meta-fiasco, see the FAQ or use Google to find out more; this has been hashed and re-hashed and re-re-hashed here, and in other venues, many times. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 18:40:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D4916A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:40:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web52504.mail.yahoo.com (web52504.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31AD743D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:40:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 61615 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 2005 18:40:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=R/ARsIzoAqSalPUAYyNfh1YwbZ0sQHBGTC7h31mrc9/OMnhLIJdoCEP+apMhZgZCJgOrwxGnDnZ9ISn8ak0NedbFEgMey9nQvc+jDC+gQH+/3kIdocL6RICl8QUAyFI4GMbAkhp1izOwl2EdkU6pGylnRHTExd4t60BkEYAXeJs= ; Message-ID: <20050625184029.61613.qmail@web52504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.204.157.14] by web52504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:40:29 PDT Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:40:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-997053094-1119724829=:61212" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Triple booted, no mouse with in 5.4/amd64 (update..) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:40:30 -0000 --0-997053094-1119724829=:61212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Hello Family, I forgot to add that this mouse is working fine (at the same time) on FreeBSD-5.4/32bit too via the KVM switch, along with two other OS's. Thanks __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html --0-997053094-1119724829=:61212 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [63.204.157.14] by web52504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:23:14 PDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft Subject: Triple booted, no mouse with in 5.4 :( To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 792 Hello Family, I was totally stoked to get my first 64-bit PC, an AMD/Athlon and it came with Windows-XP Pro, and I did what I always do and that's to then install Linux then FreeBSD. All my machines work great like this with the Linux bootloader doing the booting of WinXP/Linux/FreeBSD. The thing that bums me out is that the mouse works with WinXP and SuSE-9.3 but there is no luck with the mouse with FreeBSD-5.4, KDE came up just fine though. Per postings to the web I have added and removed and added the line to /boot/device.hints of: hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" I also "enabled" and "disabled" ACPI in the BIOS too on various attempts. I have ran: Xorg -configure and ran the file that it generated with really bad results "then" deleted the generated file and made sure /etc/X11 was empty and with no apparent config file got a great display of kde when I started KDE, what file it used I don't know. I ran a trace on "startx" (with a .xinitrc file containing startkde) and I could not seem to determine it. I'm still used to /etc/X11/XF86Config but there is none in the new 5.4 So, I really tried to find some solution to this and more or less hit a brick wall. Thanks in advance for any help on this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-997053094-1119724829=:61212-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 18:42:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314CD16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:42:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC31F43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:42:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:42:19 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:42:19 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050625184219.GA44919@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: perl directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:42:21 -0000 I have a question about the directories under /usr/local/lib/perl5 [system: freebsd-4.11-stable] I installed the latest perl 5.8.7 and did everything mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING (so all's well ;-)) Great script :: (perl-after-upgrade) !! But looking into /usr/local/lib/perl5 I see a lot of dirs that are there but probably can be deleted. If I understand correctly the following dirs can be removed: perl5/5.00503 perl5/5.8.6 perl5/site_perl/5.005 perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 Is there _any_ reason to keep those dirs around now perl is at version 5.8.7 ? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 18:48:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC6A16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:48:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D044743D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:48:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so121785wri for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:48:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cwWb5YiTw3w6VcCJVP7FDLtKYStUZdhYhmXUnUdfoGifkLASMjPqaV2ryIfFxxCWOA+e9IvG/RuCO+CwWaB7/VauZiuItLBM1j1qQKEgCt0BiozWKPQgzOr5SpzDfQyNJ+ut9SXNpj1d5youKHzLPHFOJvBoucmi5CRy0iftgAs= Received: by 10.54.57.45 with SMTP id f45mr2493701wra; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:47:59 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: "Z.C.B." In-Reply-To: <20050625085142.340eff58@vixen42.local.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <781e2bc0050622144315cf3b25@mail.gmail.com> <20050625085142.340eff58@vixen42.local.lan> Cc: Benjamin Keating , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:48:01 -0000 On 6/25/05, Z.C.B. wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 > Benjamin Keating wrote: >=20 > > I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a > > quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board > > (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? > > I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new > > and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? >=20 >=20 > I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather > nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz > Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good > heat sink. What heat sink, what model? Just in case I need to buy one. Just to know what to avoid. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 18:56:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5071516A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:56:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (camomile.cloud9.net [168.100.1.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A44143D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:56:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B2095692 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2CB564B for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB53114EC for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77779-07 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2DA4D11476; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:56:14 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050625185613.GA47192@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: Subject: commandline audio volume? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:56:16 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Silly question, I know, but I can't seem to find the commandline audio volume adjustment command. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Van Roy's Law: Honesty is the best policy - there's less competition. --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCvajNr4Wi/oDI2aIRAj+qAJ90AsZm/RAscbM7VPl4L0GvI9YWTgCeOyhX tQmuqe6seZn/1huERDw4K5c= =I00u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:09:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246E416A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:09:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FA043D1D for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:09:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x37so128504nfc for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:09:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MdpQMS3qeXJWJoT5YKdhyiZqrGXH2oyK78VitCuC34L7eUEFOs2aqfBJuavOEZwguuxwO99CMsrbxc+mIMECgIxZPXc2qWVSzmZFSMyDI75o8j1Ev9EBFnEG0snSWQuS57L/dwrf0z5fyiz8n0XtAO+1C9iGBeQjos/cET37AgE= Received: by 10.48.3.15 with SMTP id 15mr69301nfc; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.248.2 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7daacbbe05062512091f5e05aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:09:28 +0200 From: Dominique Goncalves To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20050625185613.GA47192@keyslapper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050625185613.GA47192@keyslapper.net> Subject: Re: commandline audio volume? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dominique Goncalves List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:09:30 -0000 Hi, man mixer :) Regards On 6/25/05, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Silly question, I know, but I can't seem to find the commandline audio > volume adjustment command. >=20 > Lou > -- > Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net > Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) > Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net > Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 >=20 > Van Roy's Law: > Honesty is the best policy - there's less competition. >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:22:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA51B16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:22:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B488A43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:22:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from SPECULUSHX1THE (81-178-228-87.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.228.87]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D8BAE000063 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:22:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <033101c579bb$3573e480$0201a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> From: "cali" To: References: <20050625185613.GA47192@keyslapper.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:22:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: Subject: Re: commandline audio volume? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:22:21 -0000 >Silly question, I know, but I can't seem to find the commandline audio >volume adjustment command. mixer volume L:R to set the left volume to L and the right volume to R, note that a colon separates the L and the R. Also, just type mixer to see what else can be changed. This worked for me anyway, not sure if the interface has changed since. cali From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:27:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721C016A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:27:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8D043D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:27:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:49 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:49 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050625192748.GA30528@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20050625112256.GA32433@lothlorien.nagual.st> <42BD41CC.70202@locolomo.org> <200506251215.23198.kirk@strauser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200506251215.23198.kirk@strauser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: Re: upgrading all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:27:50 -0000 On 25 Jun Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Saturday 25 June 2005 06:36 am, Erik Nřrgaard wrote: > > > It is much faster to deinstall everything and then installing from > > ground up. And it is far more secure in not screwing up. > > On toy systems, maybe. I've got 654 ports installed on the machine > I'm typing this on, and I assure you that it's much, much faster to > selectively upgrade a few of them rather than starting over from > scratch. I agree. Normally I go over usr/ports/UPDATING and handle the 'problem' cases. After that I do parts, like portupgrade -rR 'XFree86*', etc.. Never a problem. Sometimes I forget to use the -m BATCH=yes option and that's no fun. Options I really want are in my pkgtools.conf zo I don't need the selection screens.. I see no harm in using this -m switch like someone else wrote in this list. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:33:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173BF16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:33:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C850843D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:33:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 14:32:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 14:32:58 -0500 From: Frank Knobbe To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-zy67Uu0E6URyzdwLxIVi" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:32:55 -0500 Message-Id: <1119727975.20856.13.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: simpler boot loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:33:01 -0000 --=-zy67Uu0E6URyzdwLxIVi Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:39 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > something like for NetBSD - just load one ELF file from disk and that's=20 > all. >=20 > FreeBSD /boot/loader and it's script are overcomplicated. What complicates the normal boot process is that the kernel requires a pre-boot environment to be set up. That's what the various loader steps do, mainly loader. About a year ago I tried to hack a Cobalt RAQ so that it would boot the BSD kernel. The problem is that the Cobalt has Linux in the BIOS... it boots straight into a Linux boot loader which then loads the Linux kernel (in ELF format I believe). Replacing that Linux kernel with the FreeBSD kernel does not work. I had tried to hack boot2 and loader so that it can be run from the Linux loader (in ELF format) and then set up the pre-boot environment and load and execute the kernel. However, my x86 assembler skills suck (in a previous life I did 65xx and 68xxx, but not x86). The loader segfaults every time and I had tabled the project. The interim solution for me was to have the Cobalt boot into VMware which then run FreeBSD. The performance kinda sucks and I would prefer to run BSD directly, so eventually I'd like to revisit that. In closing, I'm not aware of an easy way (without major hacks) to boot the FreeBSD kernel as a single file. You can try to look at the code for boot2 and loader write an ELF binary that does the same and loads FreeBSD. If you get something together, *please* let me know. Cheers, Frank --=-zy67Uu0E6URyzdwLxIVi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCvbFnwBQKb2zelzoRAgkkAJ43lXLdez2YEymQDnsCyFnw12NBmQCg2rtm JRtApFBav6cGu3IXd1dc83Y= =JUMd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-zy67Uu0E6URyzdwLxIVi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:33:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1906B16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:33:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it) Received: from vsmtp4.tin.it (vsmtp4.tin.it [212.216.176.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA5D43D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:33:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it) Received: from [192.168.10.8] (80.117.92.242) by vsmtp4.tin.it (7.0.027) id 42B9DC090014628F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:33:37 +0200 From: Vittorio De Martino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:32:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506252132.33579.vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it> Subject: Problems with libcom_err_p.a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:33:40 -0000 Having the following in .... in stable-supfile: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_4 in ports-supfile: default release=cvs tag=. I've just run (I've been using 5.4 since the very beginning and updated it every month roughly) # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make update' # 3. `make buildworld' # 4. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=LAPTOP5 # My own configuration working unchanged since 5.3 # 5. `make installkernel KERNCONF=LAPTOP5 # 6. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 7. `mergemaster -p' # 8. `make installworld' Now while executing the command 8 it all stops complaining : ..................................................... install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/include/rpc/auth.h /usr/src/include/rpc/auth_unix.h /usr/src/include/rpc/clnt.h /usr/src/include/rpc/clnt_soc.h /usr/src/include/rpc/clnt_stat.h /usr/src/include/rpc/nettype.h /usr/src/include/rpc/pmap_clnt.h /usr/src/include/rpc/pmap_prot.h /usr/src/include/rpc/pmap_rmt.h /usr/src/include/rpc/raw.h /usr/src/include/rpc/rpc.h /usr/src/include/rpc/rpc_msg.h /usr/src/include/rpc/rpcb_clnt.h /usr/src/include/rpc/rpcent.h /usr/src/include/rpc/rpc_com.h /usr/src/include/rpc/svc.h /usr/src/include/rpc/svc_auth.h /usr/src/include/rpc/svc_soc.h /usr/src/include/rpc/svc_dg.h /usr/src/include/rpc/types.h /usr/src/include/rpc/xdr.h /usr/src/include/rpc/auth_des.h /usr/src/include/rpc/des.h /usr/src/include/rpc/des_crypt.h /usr/src/include/rpc/auth_kerb.h /usr/src/include/rpc/rpcb_prot.x rpcb_prot.h /usr/include/rpc ===> lib ===> lib/csu/i386-elf install -o root -g wheel -m 444 crt1.o crti.o crtn.o gcrt1.o /usr/lib ===> lib/libcom_err install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err_p.a /usr/lib install: libcom_err_p.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcom_err. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 ............................................ ........................................... A research in the internet has been of no avail. What should I do? Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:44:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36AD16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:44:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rodperson@adelphia.net) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D33943D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:44:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rodperson@adelphia.net) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [68.69.173.36]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with ESMTP id <20050625194445.RXWZ14360.mta13.adelphia.net@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:44:45 -0400 From: Rod Person Organization: Open Source Beef To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:43:14 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506251543.14849.rodperson@adelphia.net> Subject: ATA drive locking FreeBSD 5.4 system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:44:47 -0000 I just add a 160GB ATA133 drive to my system. On this system I have an IDE DVD burner on IDE channel 1. The 160GB drive is on IDE channel 2. When ever I try to copy any data from the DVD drive to the 160GB hard drive the system locks up. All I can do is a hard reboot. I have the follow sysctl in my loader.conf hw.ata.ata_dma=1 hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 hw.ata.wc=1 I've tried to set hw.ata.wc=0 an hw.ata.ata_dma=0, but still the machine locks. The machine is an older dual PIII and the IDE busses max rate is UDMA33. All the other drives on the system are SCSI U160 and I have no problem copying to the drives from the DVD drive. Anyone have suggestions or a way around this other than only using the SCSI drvie to copy from the DVD?? Otherwise, It look as though I'll need a new machine for the ata133 drive because all my PCI slots are filled!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 19:45:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1108016A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:45:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C11F243D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:45:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 14:45:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 14:45:45 -0500 From: Frank Knobbe To: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E1la?= In-Reply-To: <37051F1A0CB8814091E13F99DCCEDA41114F30E2@VH01EX02.oskarmobil.cz> References: <37051F1A0CB8814091E13F99DCCEDA41114F30E2@VH01EX02.oskarmobil.cz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-mSLgpv68juMvtUdQ+ocO" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:45:42 -0500 Message-Id: <1119728742.20856.26.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, archie@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redundant ethernet adapters - fault tolerance? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:45:47 -0000 --=-mSLgpv68juMvtUdQ+ocO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 10:17 +0200, Martin P=E1la wrote: > Is ethernet adapter HA supported in FreeBSD? >=20 > For example on linux it is possible to select active-pasive mode of > ethernet bonding module (linux alternative). This works perfectly > (only one interface is active at a time, the other is backup). I achieved a similar set up (two NIC's and two switches, meshed against 2 routers). My solution as a bit easier. I selected one NIC as the primary interface. Then I have a script running in the background that pings the router every 5 seconds. If it does not get a reply it does a second ping, and should that fail too it does the following: - it deletes the IP address(es) from the primary interface - it shuts the primary interface down - it deletes the default route - it brings the secondary interface up - it assigns the IP address(es) to the secondary inteface - it sets the default route That's the easy part. Then the script also does: - runs sed over /etc/rc.conf and replace the primary interface names with the secondary ones - runs sed over /etc/ipnat.rules - runs sed over /etc/ipf.rules - writes the ipf state table - runs the ipfs tools on the state and NAT file to change the primary i/f name to the secondary - clears the ipfilter state and rule table - reloads the ipfilter rules - reloads the ipfilter state and NAT tables It then swaps interface definitions and resumes the loop, pinging the router the again. Works like a charm. Any router, switch or NIC can fail, and the system will automatically fail-over, even preserving existing TCP sessions in the firewall state tables. (Hint: the ipfs tool is broken. I had sent an email to Darren with the fix. Not sure if that found it's way into the source yet. If you run the ipfs tools, but can not change interface names, send me an email and I'll forward the patch to you.) Cheers, Frank --=-mSLgpv68juMvtUdQ+ocO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCvbRmwBQKb2zelzoRAifOAJ98Qo0WsfZSIcTY6I2vepj4dEeZ5QCfUbRo jGYxxbaWue90CsBPZrBHcbw= =kMFW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-mSLgpv68juMvtUdQ+ocO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 20:01:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0347616A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:01:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from stovebolt.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03B343D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (adsl-209-30-153-107.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [209.30.153.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by stovebolt.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317793FC37 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:01:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:01:29 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1585990126FE46C02925C321@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> In-Reply-To: <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> References: <200506241731.13651.martin@orbweavers.co.uk> <08A3A012657D73D10A220154@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.0 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:01:48 -0000 --On June 25, 2005 8:42:24 AM +0200 mess-mate wrote: > > I've a firewall/router/proxy with openbsd and think to replace it > with freebsd 5.4 > Do you mean freebsd's PF don't support the 'quick' keyword ?? > Thought PF on freebsd and openbsd was identical, isn't ? > pf on freebsd does support the "quick" keyword. The "default" firewall, ipfw, does not. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 20:11:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A09C16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:11:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertclarey@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC20A43D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:11:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertclarey@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so125764wra for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:11:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=IKpa0WfhFh7fLNqpjA7dittR+jXRfxvZytaQ5U+rC1PLigPgiAOA1o5OkdG+6yHRIlsngRkq/zThnwYwO0Na7171wm/i6Uc7o7ogaO6SAhlE/kSCMoQo0+EYJsmr05RpI8tsHbuUQEZke0sK2D3T0/rCTqQ40F4lW5cf4wlqbmk= Received: by 10.54.5.47 with SMTP id 47mr2574081wre; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main ([81.152.238.146]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 28sm7903960wrl.2005.06.25.13.11.40; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003701c579c2$185706a0$0200a8c0@main> From: "Robert Clarey" To: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:08:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gkrellm2 install, atk error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:11:42 -0000 I'm tryign to install gkrellm2 and after a cvsup i still get a error... =3D=3D=3D> gkrellm-2.2.7 depends on executable: gmake - found =3D=3D=3D> gkrellm-2.2.7 depends on file: = /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found =3D=3D=3D> gkrellm-2.2.7 depends on executable: pkg-config - found =3D=3D=3D> gkrellm-2.2.7 depends on shared library: gnutls-openssl.12 = - found =3D=3D=3D> gkrellm-2.2.7 depends on shared library: intl - found =3D=3D=3D> gkrellm-2.2.7 depends on shared library: atk-1.0.901 - not = found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for atk-1.0.901 in = /usr/ports/accessibility/atk =3D=3D=3D> Returning to build of gkrellm-2.2.7 Error: shared library "atk-1.0.901" does not exist *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/gkrellm2. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 20:18:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E1C16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:18:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no) Received: from mail.adventuras.no (mail.adventuras.no [194.63.250.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7E743D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:18:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no) Received: from cm-84.118.177.041.chello.no (cm-84.118.177.041.chello.no [84.118.177.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.adventuras.no (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5PKHi5V004394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:17:49 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:17:44 +0200 From: Lars Kristiansen To: Doug Lee Message-ID: <77DE858F106AC0B02EE08740@cm-84.118.177.041.chello.no> In-Reply-To: <20050625113819.GI950@kirk.dlee.org> References: <20050625113819.GI950@kirk.dlee.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Adventuras-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Adventuras: du kan filtrere etter AdvSpamScore over 5-10 X-Adventuras-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.074, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -3.30, AWL 0.82, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this a safe way to multi-home a mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:18:06 -0000 > 1. Can I have both host IPs (one from each DSL net) as A records in > DNS for the mail server's name--e.g., > > mail.my.domain IN A 1.2.3.4 > mail.my.domain IN A 5.6.7.8 > > and expect mail to arrive at the machine regardless of which network > is working at any given time? (Part of the Might help with the first question: If you have two A records and someone tries to send mail to your mailserver, a random pick is performed and if it cannot connect, delivery fails and will be tried later with a new random choose between the A records. On the other hand, if you use two different hostnames with same priority in MX record it will choose one random and try the other if it fails. > 2. Is there a way, via routed or other means, -- Med vennlig hilsen Lars Kristiansen A D V E N T U R A S Tlf: 22 20 59 90 Fax: 22 20 59 91 lars@adventuras.no http://www.adventuras.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 21:09:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CB116A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from biodiesel.gaiahost.coop (biodiesel.gaiahost.coop [64.95.78.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B13743D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from pooh.hubcapconsulting.com (host-216-153-147-194.spr.choiceone.net [::ffff:216.153.147.194]) (AUTH: LOGIN mark@hubcapconsulting.com) by biodiesel.gaiahost.coop with esmtp; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:09:33 -0400 id 0092C013.42BDC80D.000053EA Received: by pooh.hubcapconsulting.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:09:35 -0400 From: "Mark Bucciarelli" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:09:35 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050625210934.GB3038@pooh.hubcapconsulting.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4284E7C4.6030909@gaiahost.coop> <20050518162928.0541543DB0@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050518162928.0541543DB0@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Managing updates in jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:09:35 -0000 On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 06:29:42PM +0200, Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: > What I find a lot easier is to use freebsd-update for the base system > updates and, after having mount_nullfs'd /usr/ports from the host system > onto the jailed systems, portsnap and portupgrade. > -> host system : freebsd-update/portsnap/portupgrade > Jailed system : freebsd-update/portupgrade Thanks Ruben. I have a couple follow-up questions. (1) When do you run cvsup? I don't understand the relationship between cvsup and portupgrade. As I understand things, portupgrade fetches the latest tarball of the given port. If this is indeed the case, why does the portupgrade man page have a tip that says be sure to run portsdb -Uu everytime you cvsup? This tip suggests that you should run cvsup as part of the portupgrade routine. (2) What value do you use for the base parameter in your cvsup file? Should these bookkeeping files be shared between the jail and the mothership? Thanks, m From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 21:14:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C497216A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:14:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxicombina@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8673143D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:14:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxicombina@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so124297wra for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:14:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZHqcz2tSCxF20a2B5Y4Llg8Os/tjOeRY3T5U0ktG61aMzkZa+Nas+gzNsvchRRGn+1m8zzqmrmVOWS23N2IFeU4sBArfPkkZba+fHnb8msQF7aHVa7KaTRmUC78DkiwdsZhi5I1EFfqK5+Zsjb+7HKhLlxeepQvrGtSYDNUO+fY= Received: by 10.54.46.30 with SMTP id t30mr2547116wrt; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asteria ([200.114.246.31]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 11sm876349wrl.2005.06.25.14.14.58; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Maximiliano Combina To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20050625185613.GA47192@keyslapper.net> References: <20050625185613.GA47192@keyslapper.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:14:55 -0300 Message-Id: <1119734095.11215.19.camel@asteria> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: commandline audio volume? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:14:59 -0000 On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 14:56 -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Silly question, I know, but I can't seem to find the commandline audio > volume adjustment command. > > Lou aumix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 21:45:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0850B16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF3743D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:45:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18CD60DB; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:45:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01134-01-7; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:45:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF5260CD; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:40:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42BDCF5C.2080409@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:40:44 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Hoogendijk References: <000501c579a5$50bf0d70$0200a8c0@satellite> <69E076B1F727F645D1D6CFBC@adsl-63-206-71-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> <20050625170242.GA29532@lothlorien.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050625170242.GA29532@lothlorien.nagual.st> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.3.1 (20050509) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: updating perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:45:41 -0000 Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > On 25 Jun John Webster wrote: > >>Read /usr/ports/UPDATING: >> >>20050624: >> AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.8 >> AUTHOR: tobez@FreeBSD.org >> >> lang/perl5.8 has been updated to 5.8.7. You should update >> everything depending on perl. The easiest way to do that is >> to use perl-after-upgrade script supplied with lang/perl5.8. >> Please see its manual page for details. > > > In other words: > > run "perl-after-upgrade" (note the remarks) > run "perl-after-upgrade -f" (to make the changes) > > Never updated a perl version easier before! > What a relief.. this script :-) > HA! It seems my Amavis/SA sure dont like it. I had to backpeddle perl so the mail server would work. -- Best regards, Chris The man who has no more problems is out of the game. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 21:46:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC59816A41C; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:46:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B71A43D4C; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:46:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5PLkqb45126; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mark Linimon" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:45:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <20050625182514.GA635@soaustin.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Warren , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:46:07 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mark Linimon >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:25 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Daniel O'Connor; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Warren; >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed > > >On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 09:14:26AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Why are you building xfree86? FreeBSD 5.4 uses Xorg. It's >> just about the same code just different licensing. I don't think the >> FreeBSD core is bothering to keep the xfree86 port working on >FreeBSD 5.X >> just FreeBSD 4.11 > >I'm sorry, but this is wrong on almost all counts. The default X >server that is installed by the base for 5.4 is indeed xorg, but >both XFree and xorg are being actively maintained. I'm sorry to step on the toes of the port maintainer but instead of complaining about it you need to respond to the realitites. And the reality is this: ln -s /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su pport/linux/drm/xf86drmRandom.c xf86drmRandom.c rm -f xf86drmSL.c ln -s /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su pport/linux/drm/xf86drmSL.c xf86drmSL.c make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/lib/GL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. If you really believe that XFree86 is being actively maintained, then answer the original poster, quit bitching about what I'm saying. What do you think maintainence is? >A great deal of >work goes into keeping both X servers working on the active source >branches. > The 4.X source branch isn't really active anymore. >As for the licensing meta-fiasco, see the FAQ or use Google to find >out more; this has been hashed and re-hashed and re-re-hashed here, >and in other venues, many times. > If the licensng was a non-issue then xorg wouldn't exist. Personally I deplore the move to xorg based on the simple requirement of xfree86 for recognition in their new license - this was the same bunch of bullcrap that the GPL bigots were using to throw rocks at the BSD license years ago. But the plain fact of the matter is that the Open Source community isn't going to tolerate what xfree86 tried doing, and the users of open source, which is you and I, are not served by splitting development between 2 forks of X Windows. The amount of new video hardware that is coming out and needs drivers is increasing, drivers are getting more and more complex to write, and manufacturers are just as bad as they always have been about assisting in video driver development. The sooner that xfree86 goes away and dies the better for the community in the long run. We just had a big thread on making FreeBSD easier to use for the average person - and now your claiming that it's a -good- thing to have two completely different X Windows distributions?!?! How exactly does this HELP with the complexity issue - unless the goal is to make FreeBSD even more complicated? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 22:05:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F060816A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:05:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from thing.verysmall.org (thing.verysmall.org [212.100.226.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59B3743D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:05:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: (qmail 32019 invoked by uid 89); 25 Jun 2005 22:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (iavor.raytchev@verysmall.org@80.109.105.131) by thing.verysmall.org with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 22:23:17 -0000 Message-ID: <42BDD52B.70804@verysmall.org> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:05:31 +0200 From: Iavor Raytchev User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0+ (Windows/20050620) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PartitionMagic question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:05:38 -0000 I am installing FreeBSD on a laptop with Windows XP Pro. I created empty space with PartitionMagic and installed FreeBSD there making the FreeBSD partition with the FreeBSD partition utility in the install. I took the drive geometry from PartitionMagic as the BIOS does not tell it (ThinkPad X30). The installation went well and both OS boot well. When I run PartitionMagic it reported 3 errors - different LBA and CHS values - the errors are on the first sector of the FreeBSD partitions and on the first sectors of the next two partitions (seeing from the LBA). PartitionMagic says in all 3 cases that the LBA and CHS values are different. In all 3 cases the CHS value is the same - 15483887 (drive geometry is 5168/240/63). After PartitionMagic repairs the errors everything is OK. Both OS boot well. My questions are - a) does somebody know why the errors appear? b) is the installation safe after the errors are fixed? PartitionMagic is listed officially as installation preparation utility and I assume it should be safe to use it afterwards, apart from touching the FreeBSD partition. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 22:39:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4068516A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:39:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-06.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DCE443D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:39:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 16376 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2005 22:39:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (202.161.9.197) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 22:39:34 -0000 From: Warren To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:37:07 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506260837.08911.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Daniel O'Connor Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:39:37 -0000 On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 7:45 am, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > But the plain fact of the matter is that the Open Source community > isn't going to tolerate what xfree86 tried doing, and the users of > open source, which is you and I, are not served by splitting development > between 2 forks of X Windows. The amount of new video hardware that is > coming out and needs drivers is increasing, drivers are getting more and > more complex to write, and manufacturers are just as bad as they always > have been about assisting in video driver development. The sooner that > xfree86 goes away and dies the better for the community in the long > run. I dont want to get in the middle of a pissing contest yous seem to have going as to who is right or wrong or which X should be kept. The fact is i simply wished to know why the pkg was failing and how to correct it, nothing more nothing less. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 22:47:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E644C16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:47:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-07.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12C9B43D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:47:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 24085 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2005 22:47:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (202.161.9.197) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 22:47:11 -0000 From: Warren To: Dejan Lesjak Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:44:50 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506251157.54024.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <200506252310.47034.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <200506251548.53950.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <200506251548.53950.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506260844.51109.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:47:16 -0000 > You can check with pkg_info(1). You should have imake-4.5.0. The > file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/X11.tmpl should include the following: > > #ifndef DRMIncludesDir > #define DRMIncludesDir $(XF86OSSRC)/shared/drm/kernel > #endif > > If it does not, you should (re)install devel/imake-4 port. I actually have imake-6.8.1 -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 22:51:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DAB16A420; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD4B43D1F; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8BE302619; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:51:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:51:04 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20050625225104.GA7022@soaustin.net> References: <20050625182514.GA635@soaustin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Warren , Daniel O'Connor Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:51:06 -0000 On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 02:45:45PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > I'm sorry to step on the toes of the port maintainer but instead > of complaining about it you need to respond to the realitites. In general I would rather do that than argue, yes. > make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > If you really believe that XFree86 is being actively maintained, then > answer the original poster, quit bitching about what I'm saying. Actively maintained means having updates tested on the build cluster and committed when the majority of ports upgrade successfully. It does not mean every port necessarily is going to work in every single configuration, since there are a large number of interdependent parts. Have you filed a PR about this? query-pr shows no match for 'drm'. fwiw, the most recent update to x11/XFree86-4/Makefile was on 2005/06/15 02:39:58 to update to 4.5.0 and shows that 8 different PRs were closed by the commit. > The 4.X source branch isn't really active anymore. This is news to me. AFAIK we are still requesting all our port maintainers to keep things working on 4.X whenever possible. > Personally I deplore the move to xorg based on the simple requirement > of xfree86 for recognition in their new license Sigh. I'm really not going to go over this for the Nth time on the mailing lists. The licensing issue was the final straw in a long-running situation that had more to do with who was able to commit what to the XFree repository. Please go do the research on the web, this has a years-long history behind it. > the users of open source, which is you and I, are not served by > splitting development between 2 forks of X Windows. You are entitled to your opinion. Others disagree, and quite strongly so. There are multiple versions of many other things in the ports tree, as well. > We just had a big thread on making FreeBSD easier to use for the > average person - and now your claiming that it's a -good- thing > to have two completely different X Windows distributions?!?! As long as we have people who are demanding that both servers work: yes. If people want something that's the easiest to use, then they should go with the current default. We already have a group of users who have no wish to change to xorg (for their own reasons), and as long as that is the case and there are maintainer cycles to do it, then we'll do both. Finally, the initial question would have probably gotten a better answer if posted to the freebsd-x11 mailing list, where the maintainers of the X servers tend to hang out, and any further discussion of these issues ought to migrate there as well. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:11:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF20A16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:11:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706D843D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:11:40 +0100 Message-ID: <42BDE482.5070006@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:10:58 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Iavor Raytchev References: <42BDD52B.70804@verysmall.org> In-Reply-To: <42BDD52B.70804@verysmall.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2005 23:11:40.0514 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E9C0C20:01C579DB] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PartitionMagic question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:11:03 -0000 Iavor Raytchev wrote: > When I run PartitionMagic it reported 3 errors - different LBA and CHS > values - the errors are on the first sector of the FreeBSD partitions > and on the first sectors of the next two partitions (seeing from the > LBA). PartitionMagic says in all 3 cases that the LBA and CHS values > are different. In all 3 cases the CHS value is the same - 15483887 > (drive geometry is 5168/240/63). After PartitionMagic repairs the > errors everything is OK. Both OS boot well. > > My questions are - > > a) does somebody know why the errors appear? > > b) is the installation safe after the errors are fixed? I can't tell you why PM reports these errors except to say that it has done it to me on every disk I have ever used it on (all of 3 :-)). However, I always choose to ignore PM and *not* let it "fix" anything. Everything works perfectly for me without being "fixed" so I'd rather not take the risk. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:18:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A96116A41F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:18:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EBD43D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:18:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DD817B891; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 61737-01-3; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:18:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id B221E17B88D; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:18:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id A552B5C32; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:18:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Warren Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:18:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506251157.54024.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <200506251548.53950.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <200506260844.51109.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200506260844.51109.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> X-Face: l`biwj7ErNt!P.,J7a!e:(1e=K=NSp5kC`U:f"{,=?utf-8?q?=25ehAE3=5CW=7DYb=60=3AP=60m4Or-k=3Dy=24=7C=3BoF51=0A=09xZ=3A?=),6FF&_y; =Ty5^c>T1+7cC?z\J@YDEjb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506260118.39330.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:18:43 -0000 On Sunday 26 of June 2005 00:44, Warren wrote: > > You can check with pkg_info(1). You should have imake-4.5.0. The > > file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/X11.tmpl should include the following: > > > > #ifndef DRMIncludesDir > > #define DRMIncludesDir $(XF86OSSRC)/shared/drm/kernel > > #endif > > > > If it does not, you should (re)install devel/imake-4 port. > > I actually have imake-6.8.1 This is imake from Xorg distribution. You need to replace it with the one from XFree86. The following command should do the trick: portupgrade -o devel/imake-4 imake-6\* Dejan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:19:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A367016A41C; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:19:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081E43D48; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:19:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5PNJub45505; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:19:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mark Linimon" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:18:49 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <20050625225104.GA7022@soaustin.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Warren , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:19:16 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Linimon [mailto:linimon@lonesome.com] >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 3:51 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Mark Linimon; Daniel O'Connor; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Warren; >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed > > >On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 02:45:45PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> I'm sorry to step on the toes of the port maintainer but instead >> of complaining about it you need to respond to the realitites. > >In general I would rather do that than argue, yes. > >> make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop >> *** Error code 2 >> >> If you really believe that XFree86 is being actively maintained, then >> answer the original poster, quit bitching about what I'm saying. > >Actively maintained means having updates tested on the build cluster >and committed when the majority of ports upgrade successfully. It does >not mean every port necessarily is going to work in every single >configuration, since there are a large number of interdependent parts. > >Have you filed a PR about this? query-pr shows no match for 'drm'. > It's not a problem I have since I use xorg on 5.X As a matter of fact I just installed xfree86 a week ago, from scratch, on a new 4.11 system, from a ports tree that I cvsupped, with no problems. So I don't have an answer for the OP as to why his xfree86 setup doesen't build. But I have no problems in building xorg on FreeBSD 5, the OP indicated he was using FreeBSD 5, and FreeBSD 5 comes with a prebuilt binary of xorg. So a very logical question is to ask the OP why he is going at cross-currents and using xfree86 on 5. If his answer had been something that indicated that xfree86 was not a dependency for what he was doing, then once again, the quickest fix would be to simply tell him to stop using xfree86 and build xorg. I don't have any particular bias against xfree86. I do not agree with fracturing the X development effort between 2 virtually identical projects - but as I didn't have any vote in that happening, I am forced to deal with the aftermath. And so I'm going to do that from a self-interest point of view. And the best solution for me and for just about everyone in Open Source is to choose between xfree86 or xorg, and for just about everyone to choose the same choice, and let the other project die off from neglect. The FreeBSD Project chose xorg, so I will chose xorg. Maybe they chose wrong and xorg will die and xfree86 will continue - if that happens I'll deal with it then. If there was significant "product differentiation" between xfree86 and xorg, then there would be a reason to keep both. Right now there is not and with the difficulty in X development, there won't soon be. >fwiw, the most recent update to x11/XFree86-4/Makefile was on >2005/06/15 02:39:58 to update to 4.5.0 and shows that 8 different >PRs were closed by the commit. > >> The 4.X source branch isn't really active anymore. > >This is news to me. AFAIK we are still requesting all our port >maintainers to keep things working on 4.X whenever possible. > OK, then schedule another RELEASE. If you knew anything about the history of FreeBSD you would know that 4.X should have ended years ago. I know Rod Grimes personally and he was one of the founders, and he said that what happened with 4 was never the way it was intended. Here's the litmus test - would you pull a popular port if it breaks on 4 but not on 5? 'nuff said. > >> the users of open source, which is you and I, are not served by >> splitting development between 2 forks of X Windows. > >You are entitled to your opinion. Others disagree, and quite strongly >so. The FreeBSD project agrees with me, if they did not then they would have rewritten the installer to make it optional which one to pick. > >Finally, the initial question would have probably gotten a better >answer if posted to the freebsd-x11 mailing list, where the maintainers >of the X servers tend to hang out, and any further discussion of these >issues ought to migrate there as well. > I agree with that. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:19:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C64C16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CD743D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BA217B897; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:19:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 61780-01-2; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:19:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3D817B88D; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:19:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A4A5C32; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:19:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Ted Mittelstaedt Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:19:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 X-Face: l`biwj7ErNt!P.,J7a!e:(1e=K=NSp5kC`U:f"{,=?utf-8?q?=25ehAE3=5CW=7DYb=60=3AP=60m4Or-k=3Dy=24=7C=3BoF51=0A=09xZ=3A?=),6FF&_y; =Ty5^c>T1+7cC?z\J@YDEjb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506260119.18133.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Warren Subject: RE: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:19:24 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mark Linimon >>Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:25 AM >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt >>Cc: Daniel O'Connor; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Warren; >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed >> >> >>On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 09:14:26AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> Why are you building xfree86? FreeBSD 5.4 uses Xorg. It's >>> just about the same code just different licensing. I don't think the >>> FreeBSD core is bothering to keep the xfree86 port working on >>FreeBSD 5.X >>> just FreeBSD 4.11 XFree86 should build and work fine on FreeBSD 5.4. If it doesn't I would like to know and will try to fix the problem. >>I'm sorry, but this is wrong on almost all counts. The default X >>server that is installed by the base for 5.4 is indeed xorg, but >>both XFree and xorg are being actively maintained. > > > I'm sorry to step on the toes of the port maintainer but instead > of complaining about it you need to respond to the realitites. And > the reality is this: > > ln > -s > /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su > pport/linux/drm/xf86drmRandom.c > xf86drmRandom.c > rm -f xf86drmSL.c > ln > -s > /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-su > pport/linux/drm/xf86drmSL.c > xf86drmSL.c > make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/lib/GL. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. > > If you really believe that XFree86 is being actively maintained, then > answer the original poster, quit bitching about what I'm saying. What > do you think maintainence is? I have already answered to that on questions@ and to OP. If you encountered the same error, this would be caused by either out of date imake or imake from Xorg distribution. You can solve the problem by installing up to date devel/imake-4 port. >>A great deal of >>work goes into keeping both X servers working on the active source >>branches. >> > > The 4.X source branch isn't really active anymore. There are commits still being made on RELENG_4 branch and people are still using it. Ports tree is so far still supported on RELENG_4 branch. Security team intends to support this branch at least until January 31, 2007. >>As for the licensing meta-fiasco, see the FAQ or use Google to find >>out more; this has been hashed and re-hashed and re-re-hashed here, >>and in other venues, many times. >> > > If the licensng was a non-issue then xorg wouldn't exist. The reason for Xorg existence are not licensing issues. > Personally I deplore the move to xorg based on the simple requirement > of xfree86 for recognition in their new license - this was the > same bunch of bullcrap that the GPL bigots were using to throw rocks > at the BSD license years ago. The move to Xorg as default X11 implementation in ports was not made on licensing base. > We just had a big thread on making FreeBSD easier to use for the > average person - and now your claiming that it's a -good- thing > to have two completely different X Windows distributions?!?! How > exactly does this HELP with the complexity issue - unless the goal is > to make FreeBSD even more complicated? We also support two kerberos implementations, three different ghostcripts a number of desktop environments, just as example. I really don't see how this could be bad or how it complicates things. I could see where asking end user which X11 or which ghostscript he wants to use would be making things complicated, but there is one default to get out of the box. The alternatives are there for people who want to use those. Dejan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:28:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9C816A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-09.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0713043D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 18882 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2005 23:28:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (202.161.9.197) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 23:28:00 -0000 From: Warren To: Dejan Lesjak Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:25:42 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506260119.18133.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <200506260119.18133.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506260925.43763.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:28:02 -0000 I use XFree86 as it was what i was using when i upgraded the machine from 4.x to use 5.x and i personally prefer it, nothing more nothing less and untill such time as Xfree86 is no longer maintained willi entertain the idea of moving to Xorg. Now may i please be removed from your CC's .. i only wished to know what was the problem and possibly how to correct it, nothing more nothing less. I dont wish to be apart of this needless discussion. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:31:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9639D16A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDE343D49 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5PNWRb45575; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dejan Lesjak" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:31:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200506260119.18133.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> Importance: Normal Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Warren Subject: RE: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:24 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Dejan Lesjak [mailto:dejan.lesjak@ijs.si] >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:19 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mark Linimon; Warren >Subject: RE: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed > > >Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mark Linimon >>>Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:25 AM >>>To: Ted Mittelstaedt >>>Cc: Daniel O'Connor; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Warren; >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed >>> >>> >>>On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 09:14:26AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>>> Why are you building xfree86? FreeBSD 5.4 uses Xorg. It's >>>> just about the same code just different licensing. I don't >think the >>>> FreeBSD core is bothering to keep the xfree86 port working on >>>FreeBSD 5.X >>>> just FreeBSD 4.11 > >XFree86 should build and work fine on FreeBSD 5.4. If it >doesn't I would like >to know and will try to fix the problem. > >>>I'm sorry, but this is wrong on almost all counts. The default X >>>server that is installed by the base for 5.4 is indeed xorg, but >>>both XFree and xorg are being actively maintained. >> >> >> I'm sorry to step on the toes of the port maintainer but instead >> of complaining about it you need to respond to the realitites. And >> the reality is this: >> >> ln >> -s >> >/usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfre >e86/os-su >> pport/linux/drm/xf86drmRandom.c >> xf86drmRandom.c >> rm -f xf86drmSL.c >> ln >> -s >> >/usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfre >e86/os-su >> pport/linux/drm/xf86drmSL.c >> xf86drmSL.c >> make: don't know how to make /drm.h. Stop >> *** Error code 2 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri/work/xc/lib/GL. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. >> >> If you really believe that XFree86 is being actively maintained, then >> answer the original poster, quit bitching about what I'm saying. What >> do you think maintainence is? > >I have already answered to that on questions@ and to OP. If you >encountered >the same error, this would be caused by either out of date >imake or imake >from Xorg distribution. You can solve the problem by installing >up to date >devel/imake-4 port. > >>>A great deal of >>>work goes into keeping both X servers working on the active source >>>branches. >>> >> >> The 4.X source branch isn't really active anymore. > >There are commits still being made on RELENG_4 branch and >people are still >using it. Ports tree is so far still supported on RELENG_4 >branch. Security >team intends to support this branch at least until January 31, 2007. > Yes, that is why I said "isn't really active" Active means a release is planned and the branch has a future. That branch is in maintainence mode at this time. >>>As for the licensing meta-fiasco, see the FAQ or use Google to find >>>out more; this has been hashed and re-hashed and re-re-hashed here, >>>and in other venues, many times. >>> >> >> If the licensng was a non-issue then xorg wouldn't exist. > >The reason for Xorg existence are not licensing issues. > >> Personally I deplore the move to xorg based on the simple requirement >> of xfree86 for recognition in their new license - this was the >> same bunch of bullcrap that the GPL bigots were using to throw rocks >> at the BSD license years ago. > >The move to Xorg as default X11 implementation in ports was not made on >licensing base. > Well then I feel better that the Project made the right choice in going with xorg. I still deplore the splitting of X development between the 2 groups, however. >> We just had a big thread on making FreeBSD easier to use for the >> average person - and now your claiming that it's a -good- thing >> to have two completely different X Windows distributions?!?! How >> exactly does this HELP with the complexity issue - unless the goal is >> to make FreeBSD even more complicated? > >We also support two kerberos implementations, three different >ghostcripts a >number of desktop environments, just as example. Those are simpler, have less effect on everything else if they go away. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:31:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5F616A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F4643D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:32:24 +0100 Message-ID: <42BDE95E.9050003@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:31:42 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bucciarelli References: <4284E7C4.6030909@gaiahost.coop> <20050518162928.0541543DB0@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20050625210934.GB3038@pooh.hubcapconsulting.com> In-Reply-To: <20050625210934.GB3038@pooh.hubcapconsulting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2005 23:32:24.0657 (UTC) FILETIME=[242D3410:01C579DE] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Managing updates in jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:45 -0000 Mark Bucciarelli wrote: >On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 06:29:42PM +0200, Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: > > >>What I find a lot easier is to use freebsd-update for the base system >>updates and, after having mount_nullfs'd /usr/ports from the host system >>onto the jailed systems, portsnap and portupgrade. >>-> host system : freebsd-update/portsnap/portupgrade >> Jailed system : freebsd-update/portupgrade >> >> > >Thanks Ruben. > >I have a couple follow-up questions. > >(1) When do you run cvsup? > > I don't understand the relationship between cvsup and portupgrade. As I > understand things, portupgrade fetches the latest tarball of the given > port. If this is indeed the case, why does the portupgrade man page have > a tip that says be sure to run portsdb -Uu everytime you cvsup? This tip > suggests that you should run cvsup as part of the portupgrade routine. > > cvsup is a tool for maintaining a set of checked out files in sync with a remote CVS repository without having to use CVS directly. In the case of the ports tree, those files are things like the Makefile, package descriptions and patches. These describe what tarball is needed to install a port, how to patch and make it for FreeBSD, and just as importantly how to uninstall it. The tarball is the source code for the package, and is not handled by cvsup at all. If you never install a port then the tarball for it never lives on your system. portupgrade is a tool for automating the installing or upgrading of a port, including keeping track of your preferred options (/etc/pkgtools.conf) and handling dependencies between ports. portsdb is a tool for updating /usr/ports/INDEX{-5} and /usr/ports/INDEX.db (the latter being created from the former). The index is used when you do e.g. a "make search" in /usr/ports. See man ports for the details. If you want the index to be up-to-date after you have run cvsup, then you also need to run portsdb -Uu to rebuild it based on the new updates you downloaded with cvsup. There is no requirement to update ports with portupgrade after you have run cvsup, and portupgrade does not even always need the index to be up-to-date. However, if you specify a "portorigin glob" e.g. archivers/p5-*, this is apparently looked up in the index so it helps if it is up-to-date. Many people run a cron job to do a cvsup regularly, and at the end of that job run portsdb-Uu just so everything is tidy and up-to-date. The when you come to do a portupgrade you know that everything is in sync. cvsup is also used to keep the system source (/usr/arc) up-to-date, but that has nothing to do with portupgrade or portsdb. >(2) What value do you use for the base parameter in your cvsup file? > > Wherever you want cvsup to keep its bookkeeping files. I don't specify anything so use the default /usr/local/etc/cvsup (the files going into the sub-directory "sup") > Should these bookkeeping files be shared between the jail and the > mothership? > > No clue, sorry. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:31:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BF216A42D for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254A743D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F14317B88D; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:31:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from patsy.ijs.si ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 62041-01-9; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:31:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (idefix.ijs.si [193.2.4.33]) by patsy.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A9517B830; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:31:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71625C32; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:31:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Warren Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:31:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506251157.54024.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <200506260844.51109.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <200506260118.39330.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <200506260118.39330.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Face: l`biwj7ErNt!P.,J7a!e:(1e=K=NSp5kC`U:f"{,=?utf-8?q?=25ehAE3=5CW=7DYb=60=3AP=60m4Or-k=3Dy=24=7C=3BoF51=0A=09xZ=3A?=),6FF&_y; =Ty5^c>T1+7cC?z\J@YDEjb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506260131.44609.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:31:49 -0000 On Sunday 26 of June 2005 01:18, Dejan Lesjak wrote: > On Sunday 26 of June 2005 00:44, Warren wrote: > > > You can check with pkg_info(1). You should have imake-4.5.0. The > > > file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/X11.tmpl should include the following: > > > > > > #ifndef DRMIncludesDir > > > #define DRMIncludesDir $(XF86OSSRC)/shared/drm/kernel > > > #endif > > > > > > If it does not, you should (re)install devel/imake-4 port. > > > > I actually have imake-6.8.1 > > This is imake from Xorg distribution. You need to replace it with the one > from XFree86. The following command should do the trick: > > portupgrade -o devel/imake-4 imake-6\* That should be portupgrade -fo devel/imake-4 imake-6\* of course. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:33:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5698916A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:33:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD7743D1F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5PNY7b45599; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Warren" , "Dejan Lesjak" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:33:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200506260925.43763.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:33:08 -0000 If you had mentioned in the beginning that this system was upgraded from 4 you would have never spawned this discussion. Since you don't like the discussion perhaps that is a lesson to you to make more complete questions, no? Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Warren >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:26 PM >To: Dejan Lesjak >Cc: Mark Linimon; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt >Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed > > >I use XFree86 as it was what i was using when i upgraded the >machine from 4.x >to use 5.x and i personally prefer it, nothing more nothing >less and untill >such time as Xfree86 is no longer maintained willi entertain >the idea of >moving to Xorg. > >Now may i please be removed from your CC's .. i only wished to >know what was >the problem and possibly how to correct it, nothing more >nothing less. I dont >wish to be apart of this needless discussion. > >-- >Yours Sincerely >Shinjii >http://www.shinji.nq.nu >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:37:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C0716A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D471843D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:37:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 4861 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2005 23:37:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (202.161.9.197) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 23:37:39 -0000 From: Warren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:35:21 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506260935.22563.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Cc: Dejan Lesjak , Ted Mittelstaedt , Mark Linimon Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:37:41 -0000 On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 9:33 am, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > If you had mentioned in the beginning that this system was upgraded > from 4 you would have never spawned this discussion. Since you don't > like the discussion perhaps that is a lesson to you to make more > complete questions, no? > > Ted If thats what you want to believe, who am i to argue :) -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:40:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E397B16A426 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:40:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ED243D1D for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:40:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:40:56 +0100 Message-ID: <42BDEB5E.5030003@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:40:14 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <200506241731.13651.martin@orbweavers.co.uk> <08A3A012657D73D10A220154@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> <20050625064224.GB4460@masterpost> <1585990126FE46C02925C321@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> In-Reply-To: <1585990126FE46C02925C321@Paul-Schmehls-Computer.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2005 23:40:56.0930 (UTC) FILETIME=[5583DC20:01C579DF] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:40:17 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On June 25, 2005 8:42:24 AM +0200 mess-mate wrote: > >> >> I've a firewall/router/proxy with openbsd and think to replace it >> with freebsd 5.4 >> Do you mean freebsd's PF don't support the 'quick' keyword ?? >> Thought PF on freebsd and openbsd was identical, isn't ? >> > pf on freebsd does support the "quick" keyword. The "default" > firewall, ipfw, does not. This makes no sense to me. The two firewalls work very differently. In pf, each rule is always processed on every packet and the last rule matching determines the action. "quick" terminates the rule matching and forces the "quick" rule to be, in effect, the final rule (assuming the packet matched it). ipfw does not match every rule for every packet, rather is processes down the rules until the packet matches one with a terminating action such as "accept" or "deny". No "quick" keyword is needed. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:45:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4817916A41F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxicombina@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C67743D4C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:45:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxicombina@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so140913wra for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:45:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wksqy51r+K0Gh7cYZXFFlU35ntOh6lcoZNf7mi4YoXF0qZ1buTVEEql+mB5kqdLzqRZEkG3boy2h7n34dzTI1gwlSqGCV1wOn8y3isJKrT9kn9RP8UaPHruCjKlA9RjDjaw8tphOzacDVgaTUWmTZslgo1310NRvRvYYM53CtLs= Received: by 10.54.43.62 with SMTP id q62mr2602066wrq; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asteria ([200.114.246.31]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 35sm5721209wra.2005.06.25.16.45.12; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Maximiliano Combina To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20050625185613.GA47192@keyslapper.net> References: <20050625185613.GA47192@keyslapper.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:45:04 -0300 Message-Id: <1119743104.11215.23.camel@asteria> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: commandline audio volume? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:45:18 -0000 On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 14:56 -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Silly question, I know, but I can't seem to find the commandline audio > volume adjustment command. > > Lou try aumix regards maxi -- Plantalta random fortune: Turbio turbio como la caca. (maXlo) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 25 23:57:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192F216A41C for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from royk.itea.ntnu.no (royk.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C938043D48 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:57:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7927A66DAF for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:57:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:57:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 15641 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Jun 2005 01:57:33 +0200 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2005 01:57:33 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:57:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050626015255.D15610@maren.thelosingend.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: Subject: Chop off end of file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:57:36 -0000 I have a ~70GB, of which the last ~50GB is garbage. I know exactly at what byte I want to cut the file, but I do not have enough free diskspace to do a dd if=orig of=pre bs=... count=.... Is it possible to just chop off the end of a file, without making a copy of its beginning? It's a dv-file, resulting from "fwcontrol -R". I left my home and forgot about it. When I returned home, the disk was full, and now I need to delete the garbage. I know at exactly what byte to cut the stream. Svein Halvor