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Date:      Sat, 16 May 2020 13:18:16 -0700
From:      Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
To:        "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life
Message-ID:  <2F483113-2B65-4F95-9B7F-AC94F06795A5@mail.sermon-archive.info>
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> On 16 May 2020, at 11:56, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>=20
> On 16 May 2020, at 12:19, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>> And it runs and runs and runs and runs. Older hardware could do this. =
And older software, in combination with that hardware, could do this. As =
long as the requirements don't change, it's not a problem, especially =
not when _not_ connected to the Internet - yes, I'm quite aware that =
_this_ is a significant problem in considering system security.
>=20
> If the computer is not connected to any other computers and no person =
ever has access to it, that=E2=80=99s fine.
>=20

Here is a real example:  I have an older machine running some older =
version (I don't even care which one it is).  It serves as a 3rd level =
backup for my main machines.  It is powered on about once a week (when I =
remember) and it initiates a backup to it and then shuts itself off.  It =
only has a connection to an internal LAN.  There is no internet =
connection.  I also have 2 first level backups on site, and a 2nd level =
backup off-site.  Interestingly enough, in running with this backup =
architecture for over 10 years, I have never had to resort to any of =
them.  I also have solar power and battery backup so that when =
commercial power goes off, nothing notices, not even the cheap alarm =
clocks.  Not to shabby for a home office environment.

-- Doug





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