From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 9 19:27:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C23516A400; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACDA13C48E; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay8.apple.com (relay8.apple.com [17.128.113.38]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l29ItPIw021241; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay8.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay8.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 1B1AC40029; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:55:25 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807126-9f797bb0000007dd-60-45f1ad9dee8e Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay8.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 09B4540012; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:55:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <45F0EFA4.3030102@freebsd.org> References: <20070306020826.GA18228@nowhere> <45ECF00D.3070101@samsco.org> <20070306050312.GA2437@nowhere> <008101c75fcc$210c74a0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <001a01c7601d$5d635ee0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <001801c7603a$5339e020$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070307105144.1d4a382f@daydream.goid.lan> <002801c760e2$5cb5eb50$0c00a8c0@Artem> <005b01c760e6$9a798bf0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <001601c760ee$f76fa300$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45EF2252.1000202@fluffles.net> <45EF253B.8030909@fer.hr> <45EF9B8F.4000201@fluffles.net> <45EFA0C6.3060905@freebsd.org> <45F032B9.7090102@fluffles.net> <45F0EFA4.3030102@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <110C0B85-1FFA-4EF3-A48C-935AD2B5542E@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:55:24 -0800 To: Eric Anderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: Some Unix benchmarks for those who are interesed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:27:26 -0000 On Mar 8, 2007, at 9:24 PM, Eric Anderson wrote: [ ... ] > Dunno. I was merely trying to keep things honest, since what was > communicated (whether intended or not) was that a C3 isn't modern, > and is akin to a Pentium, which it isn't. I've got a VIA C3 Samuel myself, and it is fine for what it is, which is a low-power clone of the Pentium-MMX in terms of capabilities; the newer C3 Nehemiah is roughly comparable to a P2, plus SSE and the extra AES/RNG crypto stuff. Look at dmesg or cpuid and compare CPU features. A quick sample from http://www.nycbug.org/?NAV=dmesgd;f_bsd=FreeBSD suggests: CPU: VIA C3 Samuel 2 (601.37-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x803035 CPU: Pentium/P55C (167.05-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (397.33-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183fbff CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah+RNG (1000.35-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x693 Stepping = 3 Features=0x380b33d CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1400MHz (1403.27-MHz 686- class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff -- -Chuck