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Date:      Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:50:08 -0500
From:      Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
To:        Gavin Atkinson <gavin@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r219667 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/partedit
Message-ID:  <4D840BD0.4030306@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <1300211430.87705.34.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk>
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On 03/15/11 12:50, Gavin Atkinson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 12:26 -0500, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>> On 03/15/11 09:19, Gavin Atkinson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 13:27 +0000, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>>> Author: nwhitehorn
>>>> Date: Tue Mar 15 13:27:34 2011
>>>> New Revision: 219667
>>>> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/219667
>>>>
>>>> Log:
>>>>     Turn on softupdates by default. We need a UI to set filesystem
>>>> parameters.
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>>     head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/partedit/gpart_ops.c
>>> This would appear to still be a change from the previous behaviour,
>>> where softupdates were enabled by default for any filesystem except for
>>> the root filesystem.
>> It is -- and this needs to become settable. Bear in mind, however, that
>> the default partition layout is also different. If you select the auto
>> option, only one file system is made, so there are no non-root file systems.
> Hrm, I hadn't realised this was the case.  If this change is intentional
> and planned to remain, I guess the various bits of documentation that
> say "several partitions good, one bad" should be updated...

It is intended. I think it makes things somewhat easier for the 
virtualization case, and I know a lot of people have been running their 
systems with "one-big-/" for years. If it is harmful for some reason, 
however, it's easy to change.

>>> I wonder if it is time to start enabling SU+J on non-root filesystems
>>> now?
>> That's certainly something to think about, although I'll defer whether
>> that is wise to others. It's a little bit of a pain on the
>> implementation side, since you can't turn it on from newfs, but that
>> isn't a serious obstacle.
> As of r218726, you can now set this from newfs. (-j)

Ah, wonderful. The decision of whether that is a good idea still rests 
with others, however :)
-nathan



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