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Date:      Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:55:21 -0500
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>, James A Wilde <james.wilde@telia.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Programmers' editor?
Message-ID:  <19991124135521.44585@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>
In-Reply-To: <19991124103253.B2554@orion.ac.hmc.edu>; from Brooks Davis on Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 10:32:53AM -0800
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On Wednesday, 24 November 1999 at 10:32:53 -0800, Brooks Davis wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 02:39:01PM +0100, James A Wilde wrote:
>
>> And I don't really think vi is crap.  It's just that the only thing
>> less intuitive in its natural state than vi is probably emacs. <ducks
>> and moves out of the war zone> <grin>.
>
> You aren't going to get any argument from me there. ;-)  

OK, I've said my piece here, and I disagree entirely.  But it's not up
to me; I've been using Emacs and similar editors for 20 years.  The
real question is: what do newbies think?  Anybody want to comment?
Also, Brooks, have you *used* Emacs?  Recently?  If so, I'd like to
know what you consider non-intuitive.

> Actually, if you're going to spend much time in UNIX, you should at
> least have basic proficiency with vi since it's always there and
> emacs may not be.

There I agree entirely.  I do use vi for exactly this reason.

Greg
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