From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 8 18:37:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57298106566B; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacombar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83018FC13; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so6964183wwe.31 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:36:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0bqk6QSKOqoX/GU+xqZq+AMeszuvccXuvxOaRO+GXSk=; b=YWMtYsKDbKAAShF/hzpd5tLvtvFcL6WLLq9x0DORV5n71ywhE3a0LIsqK2nX97oboK WFSE8hVOZORU0j8GhsqO9Kv06fapULqT3+F2/MX/QKEIkLd0mQRAep1u5sPH5em0bpGb B9goSxd+tGu5YpHWEcJafzjPoxY2JV29fWqE8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.175.77 with SMTP id w13mr3989487wbz.36.1318099018551; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.103.33 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 11:36:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <52963.1318092760@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:36:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: Arnaud Lacombe To: Garrett Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Warren Block , Glen Barber , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Benjamin Kaduk Subject: Re: aliasing (or renaming) kern.geom.debugflags X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:37:00 -0000 Hi, On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Arnaud Lacombe wrot= e: >> Hi, >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp = wrote: >>> In message >>> , Arnaud Lacombe writes: >>> >>>>User do not care to understand the meaning of an option, you leave a >>>>hole somewhere, it will be used. I'm not even speaking about security >>>>issue here... >>> >>> There is a big difference between having an emergency hatch that >>> gives you a chance to escape certain death by running across a >>> shooting range, and on posting a sign telling people to use it as >>> a short-cut. >>> >> I will certainly never ask you to draw blueprints for a shooting >> range. There is NO legitimacy whatsoever for an emergency hatch to >> pass though the firing line. > > =A0 =A0Certain groups do use this emergency hatch in production to get > past safeguards and purposely zero out disks. Granted, it's an > ill-advised procedure for most end-users. > Then it is not an "emergency" hatch. Using an "emergency" hatch in non emergency, or emergency-drill, situation is in most case strictly forbidden. It would rather be a service hatch. In which case, that part of geom is just badly designed. - Arnaud