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Date:      Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:46:55 -0800
From:      Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Ryan Kois <ryan.kois@gmail.com>, re@freebsd.org, Claudia Yadathi <yadathi@gmail.com>, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How to make a FreeBSD vm in virtualbox.
Message-ID:  <EEB7D3E9-DE01-4151-AD78-6FD036E4017C@gmail.com>
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On Dec 31, 2014, at 10:44, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 12/31/14 10:34 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:15, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 08:48:01AM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 31 Dec 2014, Glen Barber wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:04:38PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>>>>>> I think 'ifconfig_DEFAULT=3D"DHCP"' in rc.conf(5) is what you =
want.
>>>>>> Do we want this by default in all images?  (I would vote yes).
>>>>>>=20
>>>>> I'd actually argue 'no.'  As a sysadmin, I don't want any system =
doing
>>>>> anything I don't expect it to do, virtual machine or not.
>>>> It can have security implications.  And I've never tested what =
happens when
>>>> there is more than one interface.  First one wins, probably.
>>>>=20
>>>> How about adding it to rc.conf, but commented?
>>>>=20
>>> I think this would be the least objectionable solution, with a note =
in
>>> motd mentioning how to enable networking.
>> Why not do what a lot of OSes do and give folks a dialog that says,
>>=20
>> =93I saw you haven=92t setup networking =97 do you want to do so =
now?=94
>>=20
>> It=92s already in bsdinstall=85 moving it into the boot process =
earlier on seems like an acceptable thing to do.
>>=20
>> Thanks!
>=20
> That is fucking brilliant... seriously.

Thanks :)

> If you user picks "no" you can just make a sentinal file (that expert =
users can make be default if they are rolling their own releases).

Yeah, that would be nice.

We could also add a timeout of 3-5 seconds or something to the dialog =
(that might be possible with some of the changes that dteske has done =
with dpv?), so it proceeds on to the login prompt if not prompted so =
non-interactive installs still work.

Or we could formalize the non-interactive install process, but that =
seems like a larger task because it would potentially require some =
redesign of bsdinstall.

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