From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 16 16:58: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.quest.com (unknown [192.77.210.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B3A14C83 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:58:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from SBenjamin@quest.com) Received: by exchange.quests.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:57:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1D7D0A00F0E8D111A26600104B873E4C0178401E@exchange.quests.com> From: Scott Benjamin To: Brett Taylor Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:57:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also agree with what Brett said about the questions mailing list, FreeBSD users have been 1000 times more helpful and POLITE than the linux users I've come across. I've figured a ton out on my own because I don't want to be told that I'm a newbie who doesn't know anything... Isn't that the definition of newbie? -----Original Message----- From: Brett Taylor [mailto:brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 3:45 PM To: Mr. M Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :) Hi, On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Mr. M wrote: > I came from a DOS/Windoze world to Linux and now FreeBSD. Too put it > bluntly the lack of decent documentation for FreeBSD is what is > keeping people away. Other than the seriously ancient book from > Walnut Creek and the Manual on freebsd.org there is nothing out there. I assume you mean "The Complete FreeBSD" - there's a new version available now and the last version was for 2.2.8 (? I think ?). > There are so many resources for Linux users it's not funny. I can't > believe how many books are on the shelf at my local bookstore. I > swear I thought I saw "The Joy of Linux Sex" and "Martha Stewart's > Linux Living"! > Where is "Running FreeBSD" from O'Reilly? How about another 70lb book > from SAMS called "FreeBSD Unleased"? The reason there are a plethora of Linux books is because publishers know anything with Linux, even "The Joy of Linux Sex", will sell. Are the majority of those books useful? -shrug- My advisor for my PhD bought Unix Unleashed a few years ago - he's never touched it to my knowledge. The reason there are so few FreeBSD books: 1) because FreeBSD is derived from 4.4-BSD, any book on a BSD Unix will apply (for most situations) 2) because FreeBSD is typically used by experienced sys admins whereas Linux has (or had originally) the college hacker; the experienced admins already have books on BSD style unix 3) no one, but Greg Lehey has written one; Greg has asked (if I recall a thread from maybe 2 years ago) O'Reilly if they'd be interested and they said no > If you want to see FreeBSD become more popular you have to make more > resources available to people so it will be much easier for them to > learn. I started from scratch w/ 2.1.7 and I've been running it since then. Yes, the learning curve was steep, but frankly the -questions mailing list and the Handbook were enough for me to figure out how to get things working right. Any other info I needed was from man pages or Unix for the Impatient. If you want more docs/books, help write them. I'm sure that FreeBSD-zine would be happy to receive info/tutorials as would Daemon News (I'm a co-editor). Brett *********************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu * brett@daemonnews.org * * http://www.daemonnews.org/ * *********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message