From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 7 15:58:05 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1A753030B for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 15:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ej1-x635.google.com (mail-ej1-x635.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::635]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DYYhr6Dstz4mJq for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 15:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ej1-x635.google.com with SMTP id b9so20728749ejy.12 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 07:58:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=XvK5Rm/5EVs94r12FGRh4B0VwQk8PaCFbcbFHZcYc1c=; b=b8eFH3ARaMMNzdBgDbJyOIUuqavDidk+H+cGloRktJhgmhBkrRZrouUV5t0E/spi1u kqb+wj/mpszc4eZU5LORRUpBtYTUnEloA1dhlUaABRa/lUu+fqJQw/R28IgUSiNWtijS sLZGpHwBB+HSm6Cv4EnncfxGeqy/3l7foJe6kG7uBYP3uyXtqYS+2zgq+JscKY1+d/zh CiP+rbjvQC7EUP0VBl/sItJN7GCnIG2ltVodNEB0rv0+mSVHmVAn90RHbf+JrHb3zUYE KixbqdfU7IejGJm3C72z5KbDzanhHBkudzVpfpw+3uoj/z92r7yNhPBDFYtzai1bDLCG zTJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=XvK5Rm/5EVs94r12FGRh4B0VwQk8PaCFbcbFHZcYc1c=; b=oEw89tmXaZTcQg4XRSuVBrh5dSPuskfEWRTLL9TBb2itpttTKNFSLkCtsbhPnnZqAH OJVfT95HqHh30ETxnnYC7rTcqbPEP5FvsHC78dR+7iJIuuEIvvhPW9Pezj6+INlGYO59 2TjkjNNU9cVe2+LSm52p74ch7xi+FXq6sg0ETGcKTDp3bJLbpMFWJoxhVRc6YYOKUNxc 14XjnQLwe0CUDXJMnOP1NugN+fu8EnqDBvJ+tC8XdytdusRoXFoGSIRkDMg0NA6nLndN bC9yX+5Rm8/Nv2i1ewCwS5JCIDwoqGZy0nLrutcuDPjsxvS9QwsCuf8euF/Ps0JAcWib 0C5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530c7JqIUiKAg+avbQrsbf+A+ml2gt879rFaIJZQJTy97/2eNO5O uaeRkjMyKljnl4ClFMtJs26GVIU3BAz1dQyvXcF78Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx7H6cmjcsqzJrDHKjhcOWH/IS0w+b6fSkW2hpxpff6S40DLbXyC3VNoLZMGIHq9YUSMrnmJOjrg+TsbLIcRX8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:2f07:: with SMTP id v7mr13045197eji.343.1612713483077; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 07:58:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 16:57:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Suggested upgrade for a GeForce GT 450 To: Patrick Mahan Cc: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DYYhr6Dstz4mJq X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=b8eFH3AR; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::635) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.29 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::635:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::635:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.989]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::635:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 15:58:05 -0000 On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 6:48 AM Patrick Mahan wrote: > So before I jump into the wilds of the Nvidia forums and other groups, I > thought I would ask here. I would like to hear any recommendations for the > new Nvidia graphics from this list as I tend to find most of the > recommendations useful. Some time ago I have switched to GF1030 because it was silent (no fan) and low power (30W) and for display it was enough. However, it turns out that nVidia in a nightmare for Open-Source, so you cannot do anything except what they give you with a binary blob driver, that is basic display stuff. If you want to do OpenCL or similar then forget nVidia. After 20 years of being loyal customer of nVidia I have switched to AMD RADEON RX580 simply because they support Open-Source while nVidia does not. On the other hand the graphics stack destruction that comes from Linux KMS/DRM also impacts FreeBSD and it turns out that you neither can use OpenCL nor even stable efficient graphics because RX580 driver crashes my workstation. And since the time I have purchased RX580 until now its price went over 50% down and still I have no use of this card on FreeBSD :-( In this situation GF1030 seems inexpensive and reasonable solution. At least it works. -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info