From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 11:11:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1211065676 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538468FC15 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:11:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadx2 with SMTP id x2so8121123iad.13 for ; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 04:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Go+7015HlEX+8LZTAWIAtzvPPFNBvJON6/0ioPrkPps=; b=NfRCNiS0f7idk/O1+rvDq2cSuzb5ZZDlt6fQ+JNZxuv5dl3YOf2a54Z3jgf+YaOWeW M6imuXSwvCZBydomA9TrY6kb+Yj4Yx6D3CpH2TYMHBBYx/fT3YOIYWJIxLsefgLeskcA ss7IkgoAYNM08vlBseqUglIEEdsaNgQvxn02k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.66.85 with SMTP id m21mr7390449ibi.53.1315221104491; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 04:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 04:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 04:11:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201109051005.p85A5ZvN005263@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <20110904231821.GC22986@lonesome.com> <201109051005.p85A5ZvN005263@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:11:44 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 11:11:49 -0000 On 5 Sep 2011 11:06, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:32:30PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > It is not responsible to threaten to remove ports without warning > > > between releases for non urgent reasons. > > > > portmgr has no such policy. > > > > Ports get deleted all the time due to various issues. I prefer to see > > a 1- or 2-month warning via EXPIRATION_DATE, but that's my personal > > preference, not a written policy. > > > > mcl > > Drive by ports shootings are becoming too frequent, & will get > FreeBSD a bad name as immature & poorly managed > A solution: Ensure a policy of expiry dates expire a release after > a warning is given in a previous releases (except in emergency). > No. This is not a drive-by removal, this is a public notice of depreciation Debian removed this bitrotted software a while ago, are you calling them irresponsible too? Also, don't use tagged ports trees, it's in no way supported, hence rendering that argument moot too. Also, this is a security vulnerability, how much more of an emergency can it get? Next time I'm going to avoid these tantrums and just deprecate it, like everyone else does. Have you even noticed the removal of any ports recently? If you care so much, follow the cvs list and watch out for them. Chris