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Date:      Wed, 07 May 2008 09:31:12 +0100
From:      Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>
To:        Diane Bruce <db@db.net>
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Problems with V7.0
Message-ID:  <1210149072.27474.34.camel@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20080506155748.GA67105@night.db.net>
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On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 11:57 -0400, Diane Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 04:10:21PM +0100, Tom Evans wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 13:06 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > On Tue, 06 May 2008 12:00:47 +0100
> > > Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com> wrote:
> ...
> >
> > You should remember the 'main aim' of FreeBSD is to support services, s=
o
> > DVB-T, which became important in Linux because of the large number of
> > desktop users asking/developing such features, would not be such a high
> > priority in BSD.
>=20
> This is becoming less and less true, looking at www.pcbsd.org
> and www.desktopbsd.net as examples.
>=20
> I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 as a desktop with the ULE scheduler and
> PCBSD as a hamradio desktop. It's changing.
>=20
> > Of course, the number one priority in FOSS is 'what do I want to work
> > on', and if someone with enough desire and skill decides they do want t=
o
> > work on it, then it will be done.... otherwise it probably won't :)
>=20
> And I see the work is being done. My focus (and Xride's focus; plus
> the contributors to the ports tree) hav been on making hamradio
> apps very viable and useful on FreeBSD.
>=20
> http://www.freshports.org/hamradio
> http://www.db.net/hamfreesbie
>=20

Quite :) I also use FreeBSD on the desktop + laptop, have done for past
couple of years. I wasn't trying to say that FreeBSD doesn't make a good
desktop OS, just that if there isn't or hasn't been developers
interested enough in that particular aspect, then driver support will be
lacking. For example, 3ware raid controllers are probably as well
supported on FreeBSD as on Linux, but Phillips webcams (maybe a bad
example - I'm aware of pwcbsd :) probably have more support under Linux.

Even as a competent software developer (C\C++), and having read a good
third (!) of kirk and gnn's excellent 'Design and Implementation of
FreeBSD', I still have no idea of how I would go about porting a driver
supported by v4l-dvb to FreeBSD, and make it work with v4l compliant
apps. This probably shows a lack of enough interest on my part to find
out however.. I may get there eventually :)

It's also the reason I quoted 'main reason' of FreeBSD - there is no
main reason, it is what you make of it.

Tom

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