From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 28 17:19:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F6B16A474 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033D613C4A7 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (eugen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9SHJLZm019445; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:19:21 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l9SHJLK6019444; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:19:21 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:19:21 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20071028171921.GB18965@svzserv.kemerovo.su> References: <20071028083955.GA69713@svzserv.kemerovo.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CMOS, daylight saving time and dual-boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:19:23 -0000 On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:02:11AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > >It was tuned off yesterday evening and turned back on today, > >loading FreeBSD. Meantime the switch from Summer Time to Standard Time > >has ocurred. There is 'ntpd_enable="YES"' in /etc/rc.conf. > >Nothing in a system reacted on the end of Summer Time period, > >so ntpd just complained about 3600 seconds exceeded sanity limit > >and bailed out (documented behavour). > > Right. You're looking at this as a DST problem, when in reality it's just > a "clock is too far off for ntpd to sync normally" problem. You want to > have a more general solution for that problem in any case. Adding > ntpd_sync_on_start to /etc/rc.conf is one way to accomplish that, there > are others of course. Suppose, the machine does not have global connectivity at all (and it has no local source of exact time) or just at the boot time. It still needs to adjust local time, right? It seems to me as DST problem really, not NTP problem. Eugene