From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 28 23:31:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9991065672 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588AB8FC1F for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q0SNUmAY012655; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:30:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6EDBF1235E; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:30:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:30:48 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Michel Talon Message-ID: <20120128233048.GA7513@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <39B6DA4E-AFA2-486D-8CDD-D737310FE6B2@lpthe.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <39B6DA4E-AFA2-486D-8CDD-D737310FE6B2@lpthe.jussieu.fr> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:31:21 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:09:34PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: > Gnuplot is the prototypical example of a port which is badly managed. The= re > are far too many dependencies which are absolutely *non necessary* There = is > absolutely no necessity of having TeX (in any form whatsoever) to run > Gnuplot.=20 Agreed. That is why it is an _option_ now. > inkscape. But the cherry on the cake is that gnu plot requires pdflib, wh= ich > is a non free library such that the FreeBSD project cannot ship a working > gnuplot binary (that is gnuplot will not start without libpdf for which o= ne > needs to download source and compile). The reliance on pdflib is also an option. But I would agree with you that it should be off by default, instead of on. I seem to recall that the pdflib output didn't really work when I tried it, so I dropped it. > occur, a port maintainer should only include the *strict minimum* > dependencies necessary to make the port work, it is not his job to include > the whole kitchen sink of dependencies that could be useful in some cases. So you would advocate to set all options to off be default? Why not submit a PR to that effect? > Similarly maxima has a TeX dependency which has absolutely no reason to be > here. Looking at the port Makefile version 1.75 (maxima 5.26.0_1), there is no TeX dependency. > operation). But chasing inappropriate dependencies would be far more usef= ul > if one wants to arrive at a situation where one can envision to use binary > packages for most installations of FreeBSD And who is to say what is "appropriate", other than the respective maintain= ers of the port in question? In my opinion, packages are a dead-end street. They might be convenient but they are also "one size fits all". Which as your message demonstrates is not the case. :-) Your post got me thinking, so I checked which terminals are available in a gnuplot that only includes the options X11, GD and CAIRO: canvas cgm corel dpu414 dumb dxf eepic emf emtex epslatex epson_180dpi epson_60dpi epson_lx800 fig gif gpic hp2623a hp2648 hp500c hpdj hpgl hpljii hppj imagen jpeg latex mf mif mp nec_cp6 okidata pbm pcl5 pdfcairo png pngcairo pop postscript pslatex pstex pstricks push qms regis starc svg tandy_60dpi tek40xx tek410x texdraw tgif tkcanvas tpic vttek x11 xlib xterm It seems that PDF (via cairo) and SVG are supported in this case. I haven't tested SVG, but pdfcairo seems to work OK.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk8khSgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXb1wCeNRgTVWZhp8Jqm1kCDx8c0RiK WsoAn0ZRRgvVLV2lQr4Y7HMrMYR6tLOf =I0vG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft--