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Date:      Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:41:09 -0800
From:      Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>
To:        freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: jdk1.3.1p5
Message-ID:  <15382.32117.633615.124202@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us>
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Nate Williams writes:
 > [ EDONTCARETOARGUE ]
 > 
 > Look Joe.  I've been involved with the FreeBSD/JDK project for well over
 > 3 years.  I led the porting effort, and created *ALL* of the JDK1.1
 > releases, including doing bugfixing.

How nice for you.  What does that have to do with Java2?

 > I've spoken directly with the Sun engineers and had discussions
 > concerning performance and buginess of green threads vs. native threads.

So?

 > You're simply wasting your time, since you have shown you really don't
 > have any ideas why things work or don't work.

I have spent several weeks trying to get the plugin to work with green
threads, and encountered bug after bug in the green threads code.  As
soon as I switched to native threads (thanks to Bill Huey), things
resolved themselves much quicker.  I understand how things work, and I
also understand the broken assumptions used in the original green
threads code that no longer hold.  Its not my fault that you have no
interest in finding out about these broken areas.

 > All further email from you on this topic will be ignored, since you
 > don't have anything to say that is meaningful.

Pot, kettle, black.

 > Have a Merry Christmas!

Happy Holidays!

/Joe

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