From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Dec 14 17:56:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9306AE893F3 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [209.237.23.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 882616FE95 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from roble.com (roble.com [209.237.23.50]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2684C355 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 09:56:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 09:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: Sendmail deprecation ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:56:19 -0000 Mike Karels wrote: > Use dma. That would apparently suffice for some systems, and is already > in base. However, in my opinion, it is missing some capabilities ... > it is not as well integrated into the system. It wasn't > immediately obvious to me how to enable it, until I followed the > "See Also" to mailwrapper DMA has the best KIS, however, as you note it lacks key feature/s. IMO, it should be moved to ports. Mailwrapper should be moved as well (following the example of javavmwrapper). We've had so many issues with mailwrapper that it now is deleted on install, as well as **/etc/mail. > Use the sendmail in ports. When even sendmail's author recommends against it? > Use some other MTA Until Postfix has a BSD-compatible license my vote goes to OpenSMTPD configured not to listen to port 25 (for KIS and to keep it from being shared with jail localhosts). Roger