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Date:      Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:51:44 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Andy <deimos@lewman.com>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Permanent boot loader problem with 4.1-R
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008260945110.3147-100000@lowrider.lewman.org>

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I installed 4.1-R off a cd last night.  The bootloader installs and works
fine, however I can't get rid of it now.  I've got 2 UDMA66 drives
setup as primary master/slave.  Nothing appears to work to get rid of the
boot loader.  Here's what I've tried so far:

I've booted with a dos disk, run fdisk /mbr, rebooted, fbsd boot loader
still comes up.

I've fired up a hex editor, and messed around with the mbr, fbsd boot
loader still comes up.

I've gone into fdisk and wiped all partitions on both drives, rebooted,
fbsd boot loader comes up but can't load anything (obviously).

I've now just tried changing the disk geom in the bios, fbsd boot loader
still comes up.

I've tried re-installing fbsd 4.1-R to consume both drives, re-install teh
boot loader, and it sees the new installation, but when it goes to boot it
gets "boot error".

Run fdisk /mbr again, no luck, boot loader is still there.

I've swapped drive positions, run fdisk /mbr, boot loader still is there.

I've tried installing lilo, win2k, and winme just to see if anything will
blow out the mbr at this point.  Everytime, the fbsd boot loader returns.

I give up.  Wtf do I have to do to get rid of the thing?

fwiw, in the hex editor, I see the other copy of the mbr, but can't move
it to the first position because of some error when attempting to do so.

	Any help is really appreciated.

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