From owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Mon Mar 5 20:51:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535A0F27A35 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B98976D866; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11DAB2CB; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:51:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:51:31 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Stephen Cook Cc: Bryan Drewery , "Julian H. Stacey" , deb@freebsdfoundation.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem Message-ID: <20180305205130.GA3332@lonesome.com> References: <201803050114.w251Dv53087353@fire.js.berklix.net> <769a3928-0571-255a-3bb2-b6069c7dbf33@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <769a3928-0571-255a-3bb2-b6069c7dbf33@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:51:34 -0000 On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Stephen Cook wrote: > The problem with the Foundation sponsoring a CoC is that a small group > of extremists forced their way in to generate and implement their own > set of rules, secretly. This is exactly not what happened. > I suspect from the lack of response to my earlier question that I > accidentally paid for this when I thought I was donating to help develop > an OS. An alternate explanation is that people are tired of going through every sentence of every post about this, word by word, and trying to respond in a way that cannot possibly be misconstrued. tl:dr; your conclusion is wrong. I myself have neither the time nor motivation to respond to every single message on this subject; it's demotivating. I suspect most of the posters have already made up their minds, in any case. mcl