Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:06:06 +1100 From: Michael Vince <mv@roq.com> To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Java 1.5 donations Message-ID: <441A35AE.2020108@roq.com>
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Hi All, I been seeing a lot of VM crash reports posted to this mailing list and I was thinking how it would be great if this project got funding, everyone knows doing work for reward is better then doing it for free. I just wanted to state my personal opinion and thoughts about this topic. I was thinking that methods like Andre Oppermann seem to give a good example of how a (arguably) small amount of money $18k US can go to greatly help the FreeBSD project. http://people.freebsd.org/~andre/tcpoptimization.html I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any details such as a time frame and a rough figure of how much it would cost to get some good results (or even full Sun Java certification) happening 1.5 Java on i386/amd64 as I was hoping maybe I could persuade the company I work at to donate. I also did notice that there was recently a funding announcement for Java 1.5 on FreeBSD on the FreeBSD foundation web site which is good news. I have been looking at the FreeBSD web page to judge how good it is in enticing donations and I think its a bit ordinary, If you go to the entry page of the main FreeBSD web site http://www.freebsd.org its hard to see any sign of a donations page, The donations page is hidden away under the 'about' area. http://www.freebsd.org/about.html which ultimately has a link going to the FreeBSD foundation page http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ if you want to donate money, personally I don't think thats very good way to entice people to give money to the FreeBSD foundation. If you look at the OpenBSD web site http://www.openbsd.org/ you can see that all they really have on their entry web page is right in the middle front page is the encouragement of buying either CDs/Tshirts or straight donations which is a effective method of encouragement of donations. Some people could be mistaken (or just prefer) to think that FreeBSD foundation don't really care about donations which is not ideal. I think in the main entry FreeBSD web site page there should be an extra tab for "Donations" or even in place of either the "About" or "Support" links. It could be worded in a similar way OpenBSD have it, where it could have more of a guilt factor in there such as 'if your company uses FreeBSD then you are encouraged to give back and donate to the FreeBSD foundation'. I think this is especially true for big companies, I mean I don't know how much Apple or Yahoo give back for using FreeBSD but I think if it isn't large then having a web page that puts a bit of pressure on all of us including big companies to drive a guilt factor could go a long way. I did touch on this topic a little while ago and some one flamed me saying Apple gave a lot back by giving back some source patches to the GCC project, I don't see any argument other then that is more giving back GNU then to directly FreeBSD. Mike
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