From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 20:11:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67C4106566B for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 20:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) Received: from stargazer.midnightbsd.org (cl-218.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:d9::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF218FC0C for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 20:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.5.148.226] (mobile-166-147-127-115.mycingular.net [166.147.127.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by stargazer.midnightbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pB2KBmm0035117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:11:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at stargazer.midnightbsd.org X-Authentication-Warning: stargazer.midnightbsd.org: Host mobile-166-147-127-115.mycingular.net [166.147.127.115] claimed to be [10.5.148.226] References: <20111202015133.GA4111@dragon.NUXI.org> <20111202064132.GC88903@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4ED8776F.9060301@FreeBSD.org> <20111202072349.GA89183@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20111202083501.GA73959@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Lucas Holt Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:11:43 -0500 To: Lyndon Nerenberg Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , Chris Rees Subject: Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:11:53 -0000 What if it was still included in tinderbox builds and releases. For the latt= er, the profiled versions could be in a separate distribution set much like d= oc or games. The ugly part is freebsd-update..=20 It could still be off by default in the buildworld as anyone smart enough to= do source upgrades can toggle something in src.conf.=20 This should make lazy devs happy, speed up build times for those upset about= that, etc. it sucks for RE though.=20 I was taught to use gprof in college and it was nice using the same tool on s= chool sun and Linux boxes as well as my own iBook and FreeBSD desktop.=20 This might be a fair compromise for now with a EOL date in a future release.= At some point I assume dropping gnu tools with llvm transition makes sense=20= Lucas Holt On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> Isn't this about user choice, and making sensible defaults? >=20 > There are two or three "users" out of thousands complaining about the defa= ult. If the extra build time bugs you that much, I'll contribute towards bu= ying you better build hardware, too. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=