From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 16 21:13:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DA82FDC27 for ; Sat, 16 May 2020 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c100061626a4.b9299a3d3c0790c2e5721014f17da74f@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49PdLN6dJ4z436f for ; Sat, 16 May 2020 21:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c100061626a4.b9299a3d3c0790c2e5721014f17da74f@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1589663629; x=1592255629; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=YH/MPNH8ciAoKMVRnG2evYXVe4ls+fKywSAOJA0mXws=; b=VbKSXa0uITKTfSYTEIIoP47vVjyEoKwrbCj2FIO/49uWgRUVloY2Bwhae/6GtXp2nJqDHmVZNVu++ID5MVajTUh66qW+lBlhOalOzyLMMnx3leKSVTNZpL/4cGAQctla3bJllGTHykBlmUClxRuaYYANfc/Pn9486Y5ET6JpyLI= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDYxNjI2YTQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 16 May 2020 17:13:40 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 16 May 2020 17:13:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ja47m-0003kJ-MI; Sat, 16 May 2020 22:13:38 +0100 Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 22:13:38 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Polytropon Cc: "@lbutlr" , FreeBSD Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life Message-Id: <20200516221338.5bf2b56beef877456336e43c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200516201923.8676289a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <85E7C97E-EF8B-4FC7-8EF1-758B7BCBAE90@kreme.com> <05112EEC-7FA3-4E18-974B-263A58058E01@kicp.uchicago.edu> <332714B8-2798-42CF-A082-9EDA180CC65B@kreme.com> <20200516201923.8676289a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49PdLN6dJ4z436f X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=VbKSXa0u; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c100061626a4.b9299a3d3c0790c2e5721014f17da74f@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c100061626a4.b9299a3d3c0790c2e5721014f17da74f@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.48 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.80)[-0.801,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; IP_SCORE(0.02)[ip: (-0.18), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.26), asn: 7381(0.07), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c100061626a4.b9299a3d3c0790c2e5721014f17da74f@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c100061626a4.b9299a3d3c0790c2e5721014f17da74f@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 21:13:49 -0000 On Sat, 16 May 2020 20:19:23 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 16 May 2020 11:57:37 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > > On 18 Feb 2020, at 07:08, Valeri Galtsev > > wrote: > > > I have workstation (desktop) running FreeBSD. > > > > But you are in a tiny tiny minority. I was in one of those simply for having a computer the first time I ran unix at home. I was still in one when I first had a FreeBSD based workstation in 1993. FreeBSD makes a much better workstation now but it was quite adequate then. > But _I_ am a big big user of FreeBSD for many many years, ... and I'm another one for rather more years. > especially (!) on the desktop, so this counts as well. ;-) There are quite a few of us, but yes a tiny and happy minority. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith