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Date:      Fri, 1 Feb 2019 21:07:20 +0000
From:      Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com>
To:        Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>, Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com>
Cc:        Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>, freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The status of docker
Message-ID:  <01255294-b0d6-3de9-6cde-671bd763a5a8@gjunka.com>
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On 01/02/2019 19:49, Pete Wright wrote:
>
>
> On 2/1/19 11:39 AM, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>> On 31/01/2019 07:50, Mark Blackman wrote:
>>> What problem are you trying to solve with docker?
>>
>> There is a misunderstanding. I am not trying to solve any problem. 
>> The team I am working with is using docker during development (by 
>> using a preconfigured container they avoid having to setup a complex 
>> backend system on development/CI machines). I was hoping to use 
>> FreeBSD during the development but it proved difficult. I now have a 
>> choice of either switching to Linux natively (as bhyve didn't help) 
>> or to use MacBook Pro - both supporting docker out of the box.
>
> might be worth taking a look at hashicorp Vagrant.  i've used it with 
> success in developer workflows  in the past where most devs were on 
> macOS and we were targeting FreeBSD.
>
> https://www.vagrantup.com/intro/index.html
> https://app.vagrantup.com/freebsd/
>
>
> IMHO docker on macOS is kinda hacky since you end up running Linux 
> inside virtualbox, then launch docker on those VM's (at least I 
> believe that used to be the case if things have changed).  i also feel 
> like docker is a double edged sword (aside from the fact that it locks 
> you into linux) in that most people don't do a good job tracking 
> dependencies or actually apply updates/patches to base docker images.
>

Looks like that that's no longer true and hasn't been true for the past 
2 years:

https://containerjournal.com/2016/08/15/docker-not-just-linux-anymore/

But it also looks like something similar could have been achieved by 
replacing xhyve/Hyper-V with bhyve. If docker is open source then that 
shouldn't be a problem?




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