From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Feb 3 14:54:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1BF37B401; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from seattlefenix.net (seattlefenix.net [216.231.34.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7852B43E4A; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:54:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roo@seattlefenix.net) Received: by seattlefenix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5DE71B23A; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:49:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:49:11 -0800 From: Benjamin Krueger To: Robert Watson Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object Message-ID: <20030203224911.GE27674@surreal.seattlefenix.net> Reply-To: Benjamin Krueger References: <20030203170321.I1455@papagena.rockefeller.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Robert Watson (rwatson@freebsd.org) [030203 14:06]: > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > > Robert Watson wrote: > > > The short of it is that Matt was unable to treat many of his fellow > > > developers with the civility and respect that they deserve. > > > > Presumably this was on -developers or in private mail, since I can't > > find any serious examples in the other archives in the recent past, but > > on the contrary, several extremely helpful discussions from him (on the > > new scheduler, disk cache expiry etc). > > > > As you say, occasional disagreements and flames are a fact of life. > > However, as a lurker and a rather rare poster on the "technical" lists, > > my impression is that Matt is one of the most friendly, enthusiastic and > > genuinely helpful people around (apart from his unquestioned merits as a > > hacker). If rudeness is a criterion for having a commit bit removed, > > surely there must have been several candidates ahead of Matt in the > > queue. Or maybe it was they who eventually squashed him. > > While your thoughts on how to improve the project are appreciated, blind > speculation isn't helpful for anyone. You're absolutely right. I'm glad Core is going to explain why a valuable contributor got the boot. There is no better way to to avoid rumour mongering and blind speculation. That, after all, can only serve to hurt the project. > Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects > robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories Patiently waiting for the full story, -- Benjamin Krueger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message