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Date:      Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:07:00 +0000
From:      Steve O'Hara-Smith <>
Cc:        Polytropon <>
Subject:   Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:12:45 +0200
Polytropon <> wrote:

> As more and more systems got updated, vt has become the default
> console driver, and sc and modern X seem to heavily collide, so
> there is no way back. However, even though vt basically works,
> the modes it automatically chooses are far from usable from my
> point of view: The text is far too small to be conveniently read.
> Also the colors seem to be "wrong" and of low contrast (compared
> to sc, that is, on the same hardware).
> The "just works" feeling somehow has been lost... :-(

	I stayed out of this thread because my system doesn't have the
effect you describe, the console font is nice and big (80x29 on my
1280x1024 monitor) but a quick dig around didn't reveal any reason for me
being so blessed.

	I've stumbled across that reason now. My ancient nVidia ION hardware
is supported by the old nVidia driver that doesn't speak KMS. Without KMS
the display stays in vt 640x480 mode and seems to find a decently usable
font by default and I can flip between consoles and X with no problems.

	It seems that KMS is the problem rather than vt.

Steve O'Hara-Smith <>

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