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Date:      Tue, 23 Apr 1996 12:23:47 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert)
Cc:        pst@shockwave.com, current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: socks support native in freebsd?
Message-ID:  <199604230253.MAA07445@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199604222344.QAA18180@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Apr 22, 96 04:44:00 pm

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Terry Lambert stands accused of saying:
> 
> Socks functionality should be implemented via an IP tunnel;
> preferrably in a user space "socksd" process.

This is total crap.  How can you possibly implement what Socks does
using a "tunnel"?  Socks provides a standards-friendly means of
hiding unroutable hosts behind a routed firewall.  It provides 
healthy amounts of logging, and good configuration flexibility.

> It is a mistake to  rebuild "telnet, ftp, et al" to achieve
> functionality that belongs at the transport layer, not in the
> applications.

The functionality is correctly implemented in the _library_ functions
that telnet, ftp et. al call.  Incorporating Socks proxy support in the
system libraries would instantly Socksify _all_ of the system, including
any ports built, as well as Perl and so forth.

Given the popularity of firewalls these days, this would be a Big Plus.

> This would also fix the OBA (Only Binary Available) problem with
> trying to use Netscape or Nettrek clinets against a socks server.

...except that Netscape (at the least) already supports Socks, and in fact
goes so far as to support making TCP DNS queries so that a UDP proxy isn't
required.

> 					Terry Lambert

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