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Date:      Wed, 31 May 1995 07:33:31 -0700
From:      "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@freefall.cdrom.com>
To:        uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV)
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Problems with 2.0.5-Alpha 
Message-ID:  <199505311433.HAA11416@freefall.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 31 May 95 08:40:00 CDT." <m0sGo0D-0004w1C@nemesis.lonestar.org> 

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Are you configuring ANY swap on these systems?  There must be some or
the install will fail (or so I believe).

>I have two existing systems that were running SNAP-0412 without incident
>that I have tried to install 2.0.5-Alpha on.  This has been a failure.
>
>The system is a DEC 1027, also known as a GRid 433, also known as a
>Tandy 4833, also, well you get the idea.
>
>These are 486DX-33 systems, with external cache modules, 8Meg RAM,
>a single 540 IDE drive.  No SCSI, CD-ROMs removed, WD8013 network
>card (0x2, 0x280, 0xd400), standard COM1, COM2, LPT1 and nothing else.
>OAK or WDC VGA adapters, depending on the machine.
>
>With 8Meg present (what they have had for months), I note on the F2 screen
>that dozens of processes are aborting with:
>
>	Process 402 Killed by vm_pageout -- out of swap
>
>The installation appears to be working although many help files appear
>missing.  I expected some to be missing, but not all - the true error
>may be a killed process rather than a missing file.
>
>Anyway, the installation gets to "Making device files" and just
>sits there forever.  I suspect it didn't actually make file systems
>as that step reportedly took about one second.
>
>I halted the system and added memory from an identical system, bringing
>it up to 12 Meg thinking the additional RAM might avoid the swap 
>altogether.  But now the system starts up:
>
>	Booting the kernelel...done	(yes, it is displayed that way)
>	BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K)
>
>and it just hangs at this point.
>
>So I tried 4Meg, as the system is supposed to work with just 4Meg.
>The system also hangs after the BIOS BASEMEM message.  So I returned
>to 8Meg memory size and it boots but by monitoring screen 2 it is obvious
>it is killing processes left and right, starting with process 6.
>
>Then I switched to 16Meg.  It also hangs.  But if I move the same
>plug-in memory board loaded with the 16Meg on it to the second machine,
>that system gets a trap when booting 2.0.5-Alpha:
>
>	Booting the kernel
>	BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K)
>	Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
>	fault virtual address = 0x1c
>	fault code	      = supervisor read, page not present
>	instruction pointer   = 0x8:0xf0186235
>	code segment	      = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b, gran 1
>	processor eflags      = resume, IOPL=0
>	current process	      = 0 ()
>	interrupt mask        = net tty bio
>	panic: page fault
>	hit reset please
>
>This is 100% reproducible on one system and doesn't seem to happen
>on the other.  The only difference was that the machine that paniced
>had video shadowing disabled in the BIOS.
>
>Again, both these systems ran 1.1.5.1, and all the SNAPs since February 
>and have been used for numerous "make worlds" without incident.  The
>system with the panic hasn't had its hard disk wiped yet, so after
>the panic, I simply let the system boot the last snap from hard disk
>and it ran fine with no hardware changes at all with the 16Meg present.
>
>So with 2.0.5-Alpha, neither system runs at all unless exactly 8Meg
>is present and it gets out of swap errors with 8Meg present.
>
>
>Constructive suggestions are welcome and I'll be happy to try any
>experiments to resolve this.
>
>Fastest address is uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com
>
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>"
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>

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Justin T. Gibbs
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