From owner-cvs-all Tue Sep 3 15:28:42 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDC637B400; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baraca.united.net.ua (ns.united.net.ua [193.111.8.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EF543E4A; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: from vega.vega.com (root@xDSL-2-2.united.net.ua [193.111.9.226] (may be forged)) by baraca.united.net.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g83MSBs90454; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:28:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: from vega.vega.com (max@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83MSDLH009648; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:28:13 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from max@localhost) by vega.vega.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83MSAFv009647; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:28:10 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:28:10 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Mikhail Teterin , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontCyrillic Makefile distinfo ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontCyrillic/files patch-crox1c.bdf patch-crox1cb.bdf patch-crox1cbo.bdf patch-crox1co.bdf patch-crox1h.bdf patch-crox1hb.bdf patch-crox1hbo.bdf patch-crox1ho.bdf ... Message-ID: <20020903222810.GD9384@vega.vega.com> References: <200209031042.g83AgFON078508@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020903131346.GD8010@vega.vega.com> <20020903145241.GA18851@nagual.pp.ru> <200209031419.53576.Mikhail.Teterin@murex.com> <20020903220937.GA22348@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020903220937.GA22348@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 14:19:53 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > > The newer Cronyx can be made an option (a port) for those, who wants the > > newer characters and is satisfied with only the koi8-r fonts. > > There is already a port, see russian/X.language, but it is complex thing, > not just fonts. > > > XFree86 should not call a Russian character set "Cyrillic". Please, > > try to find the contact and persuade the XFree86 people to use the most > > complete fonts available today (the patched Gemini?) as Cyrillic. > > My complain for *-fontCyrillic port is that obsoleted version of Cronyx > koi8-r fonts is used as base for it. Clearly it is not XFree86 intent > to treat fontCyrillic as koi8-u fonts. They are not koi8-r either. In the place where according to koi8-r standard there should be pseudographics, there are some unwanted symbols, so that it should be quite fair to replace them with Ukrainian characters to make happy all users who only need their Ukrainian/Russian texts to display correctly with this package installed. > It is possible to make koi8-u fonts from Cronyx koi8-r ones, but please > do 2 things additionly: > > 1) Use _updated_ Cronyx koi8-r fonts version as base, not obsoleted one. Ok, I'll look at it. > 2) Rename port to avoid additional confusion to *-fontCyrillic-koi8-u > > For pure koi8-r fonts *-fontCyrillic-koi8-r name will be nice or > *-fontRussian-koi8-r Fine to me. Actually, I think that there should be one port, which will install both koi8-r (true ones) and koi8-u fonts, > Current situation where koi8-u fonts sneaked inplace of koi8-r ones is not > acceptable and leads to confusion. Again, they aren't quite koi8-r - instead they look like as if Russian characters from koi8-r were just placed atop of standard ASCII font. No more, no less. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message