From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Sep 20 21:36:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23058 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles236.castles.com [208.214.165.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22993 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03200; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809210440.VAA03200@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Mike Smith , "Pedro F. Giffuni" , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on the Intel-UNIX standard In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:32:21 PDT." <199809210332.UAA02430@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:40:54 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Redirected to -advocacy, where this sort of invective is probably more > > appropriate. > > > > > I am the wrong person for this task because I don't have time. > > > > Well a fat lot of use you are then. 8) > > > > Seriously, what value is there in saying "someone should do something > > about this"? Of bloody course someone should, and the only someone to > > do anything has done everything I can, and the last thing I need is > > someone that's unwilling to do *anything* telling me that something > > more needs to be done. > > Pipe down , don't take it personally . I'm not taking it personally, I'm giving it personally. If you don't have the inclination to do anything about it, shut up about how someone else should. Apart from being a trivial restatement of the bleeding obvious, it's hypocritical in the extreme. > > You still need to learn that being an advocate means *doing* something, > > not whining about what you think "someone else" should be doing. > > I do not need to learn that lesson for I have gone thru the exercise that > you have outlined. You're not demonstrating the symptoms. > Curious , what are the reasons that the UDI project is preferring to do the > UDI implementation on Linux ? Mindshare. There are more rabid Linux fans in the right places than there are FreeBSD fans. The decision to use Linux wasn't reached out of any considered or rational process, rather it was siezed on as the "only" free platform to do the reference implementation to. I haven't said anything about this previously simply because I haven't had the time to do the scutwork, nor have I been successful in encouraging the few contacts that I have within Project UDI to put the proposal forward. Like USB, this is going to be one of those matters where we trail rather than lead, because we're all too busy using the system rather than developing it. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message