From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 3 01:00:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0128E106566B; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 01:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-198-245.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67446151398; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 01:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4ED974A2.7080606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:00:18 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111110 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Chadd References: <20111202115446.GB25963@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: undefined OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current , Peter Jeremy , Max Khon Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:00:20 -0000 On 12/02/2011 04:35, Adrian Chadd wrote: > I think you're missing the point a little. > > The point is, you have to keep in mind how comfortable people feel > about things, and progress sometimes makes people uncomfortable. I > think you should leave these changes bake for a while and let people > get comfortable with the changing status quo. The fact that we have so many people who are radically change-averse, no matter how rational the change; is a bug, not a feature. This particular bug is complicated dramatically by the fact that the majority view seems to lean heavily towards "If I use it, it must be the default and/or in the base" rather than seeing ports as part of the overall operating SYSTEM. Doug -- "We could put the whole Internet into a book." "Too practical." Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/