From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Apr 4 8:46:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF56F37B718 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id cauaaaaa for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:46:45 +1000 Message-ID: <3ACB42B0.2BF6D1D9@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 01:50:08 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Rock Cc: Bob Martin , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) References: <001b01c0bd1b$0b242a20$1805010a@epconline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chuck Rock wrote: > > How about getting a license to put a machine on the public network so you > have to abide by "rules" for security, and if you are shown to screw up, and > not maintain your security, your license is revoked, and your pulic IP's are > then taken out of routes so they can't be accessed until you prove your > worthiness again, or someone fixes it. > > How many people are allowed to connect any computer they want to the public > network, and cause harm to some or all the other users on that network. > Kinda like driving a car, only the consequences aren't necesarily deadly. > > If you misconfigure BGP, you can effective screw up a large part of the > Internet, this kind of power should not be given lightly. The funny thing is, even BIG players like Bell and AT&T screw up there BGP routes now and then! But you cant broadcast BGP routes without going through a lot of red tape and you really need to have a /16 before anyone would even think about giving you one of those BGP number thingys :) Insecurity is part of the Internet... Procecuting people for network scanning dose NOT help security! It just helps ruin some poor kids life... It provides about as much security as putting up a web page saying "PLEASE DONT HACK ANY OF MY SYSTEMS, my password is 123456"... I dont know about a license to get a public IP, but going after kids is not the answer... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message