Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 00:23:47 -0800 From: Andrew Bates <andrewbates09@gmail.com> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Working on NUMA support Message-ID: <CAPi5Lm=8Z3fh_vxKY26qC3oEv1Ap%2BRvFGRAOhRosF5UEnDTVpw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmonJPT-NUSi=Wnu7a0oNwe8V=LQMZ-fZGriC7H44edRVLg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPi5LmkRO4QLbR2JQV8FuT=jw2jjcCRbP8jT0kj1g8Ks%2B7jv8A@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmonJPT-NUSi=Wnu7a0oNwe8V=LQMZ-fZGriC7H44edRVLg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey Adrian, We spent the last few months on research/design and plan on spending the next few months preparing tests, building the physical server(s) to test on, and finishing the prototype'd functions. There is some white-board and pen/paper design that hasn't yet made it to the github repo, but the prototypes online are hopefully a solid base for what we intend to complete. In the meantime, we are excited to hear who else is interested in NUMA and if anyone has suggestions or concerns about our approach. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote: > Cool! Do you have any working code to implement the API, or is this > just in the design phase right now? > > > -a > > > On 6 January 2014 12:11, Andrew Bates <andrewbates09@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > My name is Andrew Bates, and I would like to take a bit of your time to > > talk about NUMA support. > > > > Supporting Non-Uniform Memory Access in FreeBSD is something that has > been > > brought up in the past < > > > http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/NUMA-Support-is-there-in-FreeBSD-td4= 865200.html > >. > > This is becoming increasingly important now that multiprocessor > > systems > > are an expanding technology, thus performance is scaling in terms of cp= u > > count, rather than just clock rate. > > > > There is a great opportunity here to optimize performance. After being > > asked to look into this by the EMC Isilon Storage Division, myself and = a > > few colleagues advised by Andrew Pilloud and Jeff Roberson would like t= o > > propose APIs to handle basic memory allocation/management to specific > NUMA > > domains. > > > > What we have devised so far consists of two levels. First there are th= e > > KPIs, to expose NUMA functionality at a thread level of domain affinity= . > > Secondly, there would be a userspace/interface to take advantage of th= e > > proposed APIs, thus giving users the capability to make their > applications > > NUMA-aware. > > > > We took the time to look into how many other systems (Linux, Macintosh, > > Solaris, Windows) already approach this problem, so there are some > aspects > > of our solution that are similar to how Linux and Solaris handle NUMA. > > Unlike Linux libnuma, we are only proposing a few additions and a minim= al > > library that can easily be expanded later to suit users=92 needs. > > > > > > KISS in mind, we came up with the following KPI prototypes > (freebsdnuma.h) > > to uncover NUMA in a usable fashion: > > > > > > - > > > > cpuset_get_memory_affinity() > > - > > > > cpuset_set_memory_affinity() > > - > > > > move_pages() > > - > > > > migrate_pages() > > - > > > > get_numa_cpus() > > - > > > > get_numa_weights() > > > > > > Then to the second part, we have the following userspace API prototypes > > (numanor.h) for our interface and testing purposes: > > > > > > - > > > > is_numa_available() > > - > > > > set_thread_on_domain() > > - > > > > set_memory_policy() > > - > > > > move_thread() > > > > > > In much much more detail, you can learn more about these prototypes, th= is > > project, view our progress, track along, and give input on our github > repo > > < https://github.com/andrewbates09/freebsd-numa > or simply via email. > This > > repo currently includes fully commented prototypes (like a mini man pag= e) > > and will later include additions to the project. > > > > If anyone has any comments, suggestions, concerns, quandaries, or just > > general thoughts please feel free to contact us, as we would love to he= ar > > your input! > > > > The Leaders: Sakire Arslan Ay, Andrew Pilloud, Jeff Roberson > > The Team: Andrew Bates, Joshua Clark, Alex Schuldberg, Dustin Walker > > > > -- > > V/Respectfully, > > Andrew M Bates > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 V/Respectfully, Andrew M Bates
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