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Date:      Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:02:21 +0100
From:      Adam J Richardson <>
To:        Eric <>
Cc:        Miguel <>,
Subject:   Re: porteasy vs portupgrade
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> When did you try it last? There have been lots of improvements and you 
> can set certain flags up to always be in effect if you need to.

Fairly recently - a couple of months back, probably April time. I can't
give the exact month because I have a lousy short term memory.

> portmaster -L | grep version
> tells me everything that needs to be updated and the -e switch removes 
> ports i no longer want around, but then again, so does make deinstall 
> clean. What does portversion do thats so special? same with pkg_deinstall

I don't think portversion and pkg_deinstall do anything special except 
let me be lazy about the /how/ of the ports system. They're easy to 
learn and that's about it. The way they're set up by default allows me 
to think less about how to do what I want to do, and that leaves more 
clock cycles in my brain for important stuff. I mean, instead of 
remembering "it's the -L flag to see what I have installed, then pipe to 
'grep version'", I just type portversion. Easy.

To upgrade all ports plus deps, I use "sudo portupgrade -aRr", usually 
inside a screen session so I can disconnect and go do something else for 
a while, like sleep. [I can't remember what the flags do, I just pretend 
to be a pirate when I want to upgrade my apps. :P ]  I'm sure portmaster 
is just as easy. There was just something about it I didn't like.

Incidentally, for removing ports I don't want I generally use 
pkg_cutleaves, which AFAIK is nothing whatsoever to do with portupgrade. 
Running "sudo pkg_cutleaves -x" is my idea of a good time. I'm 
definitely a minimalist.

BTW: Miguel, you should try portmaster as well as portupgrade and see 
which you prefer. Don't listen to our ramblings. There is no "right" 
choice here.

Adam J Richardson

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