From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 06:36:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7462D58F4 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 06:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FGVV6wMPz4JtP for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 06:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D82310276A for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 08:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sepxCYM-pUCR for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 08:36:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.78] (p57A1FCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.161.252.194]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB242102769 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 08:36:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: sym0 weirdness From: "Christoph P.U. Kukulies" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <373ced34-1fe5-c385-e2c4-20cc6f46d9f0@kukulies.org> <4f1729b9-5c8c-26d1-8a64-e7c17eecffb2@kukulies.org> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 08:36:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FGVV6wMPz4JtP X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.53)[-0.528,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.67)[0.666,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 116.203.0.0/16(2.98), asn: 24940(-1.50), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[194.252.161.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 06:36:52 -0000 FWIW: I  booted Ubuntu 16.04 on this machine from a USB Stick and sym0 is recognized and attached properly. -- Christoph / / / / //Am 02.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Christoph Kukulies: > Another gotcha: > > I had some other cards using the Symbios 53C810, this time an ASUS SC-200 PCI board and tried that with the GENERIC > kernel (which has the sym driver built in). > > The ASUS SC-200 board isn’t recognized at all by the kernel. > > > I’m baffled. (!?) > > — > Christoph > >> Am 02.05.2020 um 13:08 schrieb Christoph P.U. Kukulies : >> >> Seems that HTML coded Email doesn't get through. Should have known that :) >> >> Here is the content: >> >> >> Am 02.05.2020 um 10:27 schrieb Christoph P.U. Kukulies: >>> I'm trying to connect and detect some SCSI device on an externanally connected SCSI bus. >>> >>> Controller is a Symbios PCI card 2520. >>> >>> With the cable connected and one device at the end of the bus (1,5m cable, internally terminated by the SCSI2D controller card), I'm always getting camcontrol rescan all to hang, üroducing lots of errers then in the dmesg. >>> >>> This is the picture right after system boot: >>> >>> sym0: <810> mem 0xc0000000-0xc000000f irq 20 at device 5.0 on pci4 >>> sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking >>> CACHE TEST FAILED: reg dstat-sstat2 readback ffffffff. >>> sym0: CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED. >>> device_attach: sym0 attach returned 6 >>> >>> >>> Now, when I use camcontrol to detect my SCSI devices connected to sym0, all I get listed are my hard disks: >>> >>> >>> # camcontrol devlist >>> at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (ada0,pass0) >>> at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (ada1,pass1) >>> at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (ada2,pass2) >>> at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (ada3,pass3) >>> at scbus7 target 0 lun 0 (pass4,da0) >>> # camcontrol devlist -b 1 >>> scbus0 on ahcich0 bus 0 >>> scbus1 on ahcich1 bus 0 >>> scbus2 on ahcich2 bus 0 >>> scbus3 on ahcich3 bus 0 >>> scbus4 on ahcich4 bus 0 >>> scbus5 on ahcich5 bus 0 >>> scbus6 on ata1 bus 0 >>> scbus7 on umass-sim0 bus 0 >>> scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0 >>> >>> Clueless. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Christoph >>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 12:43:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3AC2DC94B for ; 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How am I supposed to s= et the graphics? Sent from Outlook Mobile From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 12:55:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14772DCEA3 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 12:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-wr1-x42f.google.com (mail-wr1-x42f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FQvn0WGBz4dmy for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 12:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-wr1-x42f.google.com with SMTP id l18so6849074wrn.6 for ; Sun, 03 May 2020 05:55:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NuVrOE2ebTT7NWTRXbiciQwi+hzJxQB84/KVFPB9Bic=; b=XWFRkIAyBh1qnPyQbR6Kt1li8dfDrUMgPYmH3cZKwbR/ybmTgeLhbW1DhvxuLZiUiT hT/YKuX6nVV0VwMmti8iWKu6xNAyMG9hTBe6c9XE6BJqy92EYYVdEj3iAn6TnAWstKPX tcTqSn4NfU0t5U8ln4OpNbGERt+le61vrTi8QnCrxY1J3oi9EqiINqqXA0/C6Y6DDVtG KfxrvsoZdAtEj1810rUlFm3ojysA91CO7I2yIa8QpB3EJSgsx1UhcfRz0Rs6w62m5k3A 8uyiwTP9K7YG9XAxs3kF+6XM5AaqE6QSKDaeYjMQWO/pcSUw3HF6tXPtFqirCthmKzxG K+0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NuVrOE2ebTT7NWTRXbiciQwi+hzJxQB84/KVFPB9Bic=; b=Sg9ekxHXSfsTwiMsoKyTnZrEjqRdHXYIAVB+DOhcz+p7WGUyRpDC20TA9SPHZH3eiI s+cMdWANLB7mqfRMd6p9MJoUVPoEa0yEvivdu3cfM+uVmW831yDKv1OW4VPZiEtax54J QYBy+YbLOiwRY8J5YpeVvVgYvfztvXiX+uytc4zR3ItT2uigzG0o/7zvIYgxyvnEQabT /F/FMrjVRy7GkgKOQYYv0iOkFRjPrQUMDOy5f5NefVxlV4fl8j99l9Zrur96GE+t3QAV hfr99xm8qP0nrhJ8/ilvoVUBMXZXXzOtcNcmha17FZuDXDKy7m3RsiLWaWAdUGq5aYl7 XT7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubK2mm/QjkaNYJG+8Qxxw8y4rrjyOxiT074j+jK/6pqORbBQsGh CpiJfR+0zs8yvHdoTSolhRimT+InsjhaMtLOB8QIfQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIrolSylV8i6oSXG6jBAK/p/OmmwLM7pJ//XOZwg8sXLjpRQDk1znXVTYg2DByx6x/YlEhgxJBFoMnKHxP24cc= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4005:: with SMTP id n5mr13813058wrp.242.1588510547354; Sun, 03 May 2020 05:55:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 14:55:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compiz fusion To: Brandon helsley Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FQvn0WGBz4dmy X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=XWFRkIAy; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::42f) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.36)[ip: (-9.03), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.31), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 12:55:49 -0000 On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 2:43 PM Brandon helsley wrote: > Compiz fusion is a none working port on fresh ports. How am I supposed to set the graphics? https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x11.html is your friend :-) 1. Install Xorg (pkg install xorg). Do not install xf86-video drivers, only modesetting driver, the new way Xorg works. 2. Install DRM KMS video driver for your hardware (pkg install drm-kmod) and make it load on startup (according to instructions that shows up after install, or read them here /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod/pkg-message). 3. Install any of the dozens available windows managers, for instance XFCE4 (pkg install -x xfce4) is small rapid and works fine. 4. Startx :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 12:56:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8452DCF77 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 12:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FQwm6b9Yz4dsh for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 12:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.226.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MyK1E-1jEd6A0EVY-00yiBR; Sun, 03 May 2020 14:56:38 +0200 Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 14:56:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Brandon helsley Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Compiz fusion Message-Id: <20200503145637.72e6febc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:egGdUDg6Ehmhm8pwSsokQidsGpMs71juFrCDwvpVqhDMLWtzQI8 EXBStBc/fFxAl0uGnn/vyBj6efYyBo2AWEsIZo+GnGsra0quLob5YySKKvBxByi5rxE5+40 V+ed2nwk/B63iHuWK860hKl1B4iZyjSud8lQyKqwsbrwcdD6ahkwcX00nkbfsXJF6H4b9Ph o4bWSd1YrW/s8wNIYSJnQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qSnClo8g8Mo=:IX4HPoCI11Aco4eUCqDu72 7qyI6c+HfKJmxTzA9LkUuBHpEU+FNnYb5fqYarHlknvs1fWP6LP+QgIP2oof7DhPVQRE31FrZ BigdbuMU5/+p1tWn4Nz2O+DwwNcEyLadsVfhq/cIDsm0/SdQKba9c4vidDZekaTyoKpbsAFvK H3D/0YtQC/AXG2kXaEidGBhidUcJvYFsgZMxy7bTefnwLgUn8RTnm+cjIgMHRETC300XNMY29 FLuu6Cl8j6Yf7Zh22dcLyYe5KuI/2uf+IMqsBUYQIB1MMoXPC9mX3ZZ6qddZNzRHj0QZcV7M/ ERdqa4CVFkQsYfoPhPaJAo7T06b1KElk2OOnvJsml8/E7cmeWEE1wsQY4hf3EPQ7hxMZwkegA OysQc8f8x9DwJ03dTKKsm7vVGCHYLmfkgk2UDlg6ddLJGfX9IPLoCsk5QeX+Zq+/uWz8HIsJq IxmJrzYW1HWa2BQhZglOUGbr8A4puXeY+O8arm+9bjVkc9oVAMy6dYGXvU3KWUy8INW0Qqbz3 qvJB1CHmtIq3x3+5kS5gqigg4H7TpPYNezGtyj6WoxGQKxvwHUDatA877/0fMFLVY0436V3wu qzgV6itCUmqBTif6voxgbVYCJG6AIEHa8tDbE+MA+iFO7pSO30dMmAQf0XZv2myQupzPgDvbO I44fTL5gaYB8Tcb9iD+FKnozxER/LA9u6mtIwOwcnfdoMBehractGAEtRwhNR8ZymfzOEuwcw Is2t6nNFVsG4KsRt8kPCDZm3PVoYkmQGHdII3qHo11tYQ/7BS4t3fITeYtq1IlN6P+MazaVbk oXxZWjjAEqns/4lE4kBXKANO+FD58t9wcNH5YoAuJqBJcbfvVOmdK+x1QAttkXu+mtVcUaGB4 JeNiQGRhbe3/C2dGN7fQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FQwm6b9Yz4dsh X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.135) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.68 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[107.226.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.08)[0.076,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.987,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.22)[ip: (0.27), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.21), asn: 8560(2.04), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 12:56:42 -0000 On Sun, 3 May 2020 12:43:24 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > Compiz fusion is a none working port on fresh ports. I've checked https://www.freshports.org/x11-wm/compiz-fusion as well as https://www.freshports.org/x11-wm/compiz - where does it say it's not working? >From the description "This is a metaport for compiz-fusion." and "No installation instructions: this port has been deleted. The package name of this deleted port was: PKGNAME: compiz-fusion" I'd guess that "compiz" is the "new" name of the port and package you should install to get the Compiz environment. > How am I supposed to set the graphics? Follow https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-compiz-fusion.html and keep in mind that no package "compiz-fusion" does exist (representing the metaport); however, you can install the required components. Check # pkg search compiz and decide what you need to install additionally if installing "compiz" leaves you with some missing part. NB: The manual does _not_ reflect the correct procedure related to ports / packages. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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To: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=c3=b8l?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <32264a1f-3bcf-9d74-603d-c201bffd256c@wp.pl> From: "Ireneusz Pluta/wp.pl" Message-ID: <092e9379-37cf-f839-e4e4-eeb1e8821f1a@wp.pl> Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 16:05:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: pl X-WP-MailID: 86b5c01729ca29dce6e0ec0cd811570c X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy Poczty Wirtualnej Polski X-WP-SPAM: NO 0000000 [QcO0] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FSTl2h39z3FdZ X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=wp.pl header.s=1024a header.b=RY46o5mV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=wp.pl; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ipluta@wp.pl designates 212.77.101.9 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ipluta@wp.pl X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.77.96.0/19]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[wp.pl]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[wp.pl:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[wp.pl,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[wp.pl]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12827, ipnet:212.77.101.0/24, country:PL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[wp.pl.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[wp.pl:s=1024a]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-7.50), ipnet: 212.77.101.0/24(-3.95), asn: 12827(-2.85), country: PL(0.06)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.101.77.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[9.101.77.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 14:06:53 -0000 W dniu 2020-05-02 o 10:03, Trond Endrestøl pisze: > On Sat, 2 May 2020 06:15+0200, Ireneusz Pluta wrote: > >> Hi group, >> >> (Sorry if this post appears twice. The first one, initially sent from another >> email account, does not seem to appear.) >> >> I have (or rather had) a pool like this: >> >> $ sudo zpool status -v t >>   pool: t >>  state: UNAVAIL >> status: One or more devices are faulted in response to IO failures. >> action: Make sure the affected devices are connected, then run 'zpool clear'. >>    see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-HC >>   scan: none requested >> config: >> >>         NAME                     STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM >>         t                        UNAVAIL      0     0 0 >>           mirror-0               UNAVAIL      0     0 0 >>             4304281762335857859  REMOVED      0     0 0  was /dev/da5 >>             1909766900844089131  REMOVED      0     0 0  was /dev/da10 >> >> errors: Permanent errors have been detected in the following files: >> >>         :<0x0> >>         :<0x1b> >>         t:<0x0> >> >> That was a temporary test pool. I forgot to destroy  or at least export the >> pool before pulling these da5 and da10 drives out of the drivebay of the >> server. Now it can't be exported or destroyed, the respective zpool operations >> hust hang. How to get rid now of this pool, preferably without reboot? The da5 >> and da10 are no longer available to be put back, as they have been already >> moved elsewhere, and are now part of another pool. >> >> I guess the pool got stuck at the time of running >> /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid, when find operation within it tried to >> traverse into the mountpoint of the pool. >> >> The system is FreeBSD 11.2. >> >> Thanks >> >> Irek > The pool might still be listed in /boot/zfs/zpool.cache. The only way > I can think of to get rid of the old pool, is to delete this file and > reboot. If you have more pools than your root pool, you should reboot > to singleuser mode, mount the root fs read-write, import the > remaining pools, and either exit the SUS shell or reboot. Trond, thank you for your advice. Yes, that state was unrecoverable without reboot. Additionally I found this little thread https://www.databaseusers.com/article/5971869/Cannot+export+%27backup%27%3A+pool+I+O+is+currently+suspended, whose last post helped me a lot with understanding what was going on under the hood, and why. So I followed the procedure carefully, taking special care of first stopping important applications and unmounting other big and valuable datasets. Forced hard reset was necessary, the reboot command just froze. However, there was one exception: I skipped deleting  /boot/zfs/zpool.cache, to avoid falling into single user mode and importing my pools manually (I felt very uncomfortable going to do that remotely, with that crappy IPMIView console redirection). The system booted cleanly with all pools imported. The UNAVAIL pool got imported too, however, it did not get mounted, so there was no chance of any I/O attempt to it. The first thing I did after login was: `zpool destroy t`, which worked cleanly. Prior to doing all that, I reproduced that state and excercised the procedure on a virtual machine. Thanks again Irek From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 15:01:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280312DF9B8 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 15:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FThG523Xz3J3W for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 15:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF4210276A for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:01:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IT9hBwjl47yp for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:01:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from christophs-mbp.fritz.box (p57A1FCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.161.252.194]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83FE9102769 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:01:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: sym0 weirdness Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 17:01:01 +0200 References: <373ced34-1fe5-c385-e2c4-20cc6f46d9f0@kukulies.org> <4f1729b9-5c8c-26d1-8a64-e7c17eecffb2@kukulies.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <70108D3F-D8BF-4A3F-BDC3-0383158BA60E@kukulies.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FThG523Xz3J3W X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.12 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.54)[-0.540,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.87)[0.871,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 116.203.0.0/16(2.97), asn: 24940(-1.50), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[194.252.161.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 15:01:04 -0000 I can say that things have resolved magically. I tweaked around in the = ASRock BIOS with some SHARE Memory parameter - isnt=E2=80=99t that = something that has got to do with mapping memory space of controllers = into CPU address space? Switched that to 32M rather than AUTO,=20 IIRC. Anyway everything is working now as it should. =E2=80=94 Christoph > Am 03.05.2020 um 08:36 schrieb Christoph P.U. Kukulies = : >=20 > FWIW: I booted Ubuntu 16.04 on this machine from >=20 > a USB Stick and sym0 is recognized and attached properly. >=20 >=20 > -- > Christoph > / > / > / > / > //Am 02.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Christoph Kukulies: >> Another gotcha: >>=20 >> I had some other cards using the Symbios 53C810, this time an ASUS = SC-200 PCI board and tried that with the GENERIC >> kernel (which has the sym driver built in). >>=20 >> The ASUS SC-200 board isn=E2=80=99t recognized at all by the kernel. >>=20 >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m baffled. (!?) >>=20 >> =E2=80=94 >> Christoph >>=20 >>> Am 02.05.2020 um 13:08 schrieb Christoph P.U. Kukulies = : >>>=20 >>> Seems that HTML coded Email doesn't get through. Should have known = that :) >>>=20 >>> Here is the content: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Am 02.05.2020 um 10:27 schrieb Christoph P.U. Kukulies: >>>> I'm trying to connect and detect some SCSI device on an = externanally connected SCSI bus. >>>>=20 >>>> Controller is a Symbios PCI card 2520. >>>>=20 >>>> With the cable connected and one device at the end of the bus (1,5m = cable, internally terminated by the SCSI2D controller card), I'm always = getting camcontrol rescan all to hang, =C3=BCroducing lots of errers = then in the dmesg. >>>>=20 >>>> This is the picture right after system boot: >>>>=20 >>>> sym0: <810> mem 0xc0000000-0xc000000f irq 20 at device 5.0 on pci4 >>>> sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking >>>> CACHE TEST FAILED: reg dstat-sstat2 readback ffffffff. >>>> sym0: CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED. >>>> device_attach: sym0 attach returned 6 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Now, when I use camcontrol to detect my SCSI devices connected to = sym0, all I get listed are my hard disks: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> # camcontrol devlist >>>> at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 = (ada0,pass0) >>>> at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 = (ada1,pass1) >>>> at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 = (ada2,pass2) >>>> at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 = (ada3,pass3) >>>> at scbus7 target 0 lun 0 = (pass4,da0) >>>> # camcontrol devlist -b 1 >>>> scbus0 on ahcich0 bus 0 >>>> scbus1 on ahcich1 bus 0 >>>> scbus2 on ahcich2 bus 0 >>>> scbus3 on ahcich3 bus 0 >>>> scbus4 on ahcich4 bus 0 >>>> scbus5 on ahcich5 bus 0 >>>> scbus6 on ata1 bus 0 >>>> scbus7 on umass-sim0 bus 0 >>>> scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0 >>>>=20 >>>> Clueless. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>>=20 >>>> Christoph >>>>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 17:13:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30012E31A8 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FXcg5Dj2z3xxp for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=iseh/mSMaygqDprW/JhSVKsBs0/CcC56kO2/cAw0bss=; b=mL15DeUIXlG9wsxJFqWqzHyA4T sG7UgtB16jiTFqd0i7zWgzQ1JuwMZBObNYMp75YMwCVPz5sAdc9vdijvWvsiMYVmbUWcB209worwz ovoxp1cm1YS9bGK8ojdfXmmhzALWtpLawLH6Z+ehUAtxj7EJQq2R+uReEDZWTLAaR5yk=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jVIAl-000DJX-Os for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 00:12:59 +0700 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 00:12:59 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FXcg5Dj2z3xxp X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=mL15DeUI; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.22)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.21), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 17:13:09 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, I'm trying to use a Brother HL-L2340D printer as a simple networked line printer with lpd. I've successfully used HP and Canon printers like that with a simple printcap like this: # by VAS lp|Brother HL-L2340D series:\ :sh:\ :rp=3DTEXT_P1:\ :rm=3D192.168.1.74:sd=3D/var/spool/output/lpd1:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-er= rs: but the story with Brother HL-L2340D is different. When fed some input=20 with "lptest |lpr", it just spits out 3 empty pages. I've never seen anything like that before. I'm wondering if someone has this printer and made it work as a line printer. From the specification at https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=3Dus&lang=3Den&prod=3Dhll2340dw= _us_eu_as it should support LPD. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJervubAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0ovcIAJ8u1X25D+DTFEAMF9/YUOZ2 5XjQjTfeK/MyEU8NwLckqGeaarv2P7FrwXLN2HkUPtpt8iaQhAnxL4cXYYloA1Gx QPw9Nqfzxd8Hu1Dz8uLakhD2lsYAKMoTKIwRueA4/Bgwzp8C11Ek655ZXv/cm1/Y EsMJwJFZQxSDNFycbakHfuicd8Ql9Zcm4sTpIugP71kUgAu9AcxXcqbykDHw0zgC DUhe8X3IBoojTM8vLavsoFweepibxwTP3khjZ8P9K0JojJnGn1F/gppvJIbvvvQj 5tBK3mei2EtdFbqcHk5im5YhKq1jfyooG/AcSQ51XHjqr66zrl0zP7mcYsvotrA= =O27B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 17:24:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B803E2E3491 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FXt84FL3z3yNc for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.226.107]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MDy9C-1jLMCn06rs-009wh6; Sun, 03 May 2020 19:24:45 +0200 Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 19:24:44 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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I've successfully used HP and Canon printers like > that with a simple printcap like this: > > # by VAS > lp|Brother HL-L2340D series:\ > :sh:\ > :rp=TEXT_P1:\ > :rm=192.168.1.74:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd1:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: > > but the story with Brother HL-L2340D is different. When fed some input > with "lptest |lpr", it just spits out 3 empty pages. I've never seen > anything like that before. It's possible that your previous printers could understand regular (unformatted) ASCII text, but the new one doesn't. > I'm wondering if someone has this printer and made it work as a line > printer. > > From the specification at > https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2340dw_us_eu_as > it should support LPD. It's not a matter of supporting LPD - it's the question which printer language the printer can process. The default output format for programs is PS. According to the above specification, the printer does not understand PS. However, it supports PCL, and tools like gs (GhostScript) should be able to convert PS to PCL. This is what you need to send to the printer. I assume you're not using CUPS? In this case, a PPD file for this printer would probably be the easiest thing, but you can get around using CUPS of course. Maybe this example can help: First verify that the printer really understands PCL. You can use nc (netcat) to send it some data directly. If it works, instantiate a simple printer filter in /etc/printcap, for example: Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ :rm=192.168.100.100:\ :rp=raw:\ :lp=:\ :if=/opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: Then rebuild printcap.db. Make sure the required directories do exist. Here is the printer filter, /opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER \ -sDEVICE=ljet4d -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600x600 \ -dDuplex=true \ -sOutputFile=- - && exit 0 exit 2 I use that one with a HP Laserjet 4000 DN. There is also a filter (and printer) for non-duplex, it's simply missing the -dDuplex=true entry. ;-) Adjust parameters you need, for example if you don't have standard A4 paper or need a different resolution. It might even be possible that you can use this example 1:1, if the Brother HL-L2340D speaks PCL in a similar way to the HP Laserjet 4000 DN - see the "ljet4d" device format, which works both for a Laserjet 4 and a Laserjet 4000 (I have both). Sidenote: That Laserjet printer can understand PS, PCL, and ASCII text (including escape sequences for formatting etc., or real plain text without any preprocessing). For more inspiration, check: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 17:50:28 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A332E3D8D for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FYRl1sp9z40kY for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from [10.0.10.15] (unknown [10.0.10.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 743B63CEED for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 10:50:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 10:50:20 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FYRl1sp9z40kY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.06 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; IP_SCORE(-2.76)[ip: (-9.29), ipnet: 65.101.0.0/18(-4.30), asn: 209(-0.15), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.101.0.0/18, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 17:50:28 -0000 On 2020-05-03 10:24, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 2020 00:12:59 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> I'm trying to use a Brother HL-L2340D printer as a simple >> networked line printer with lpd. I've successfully used HP and >> Canon printers like that with a simple printcap like this: >> >> # by VAS lp|Brother HL-L2340D series:\ :sh:\ :rp=TEXT_P1:\ >> :rm=192.168.1.74:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd1:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: >> >> but the story with Brother HL-L2340D is different. When fed some >> input with "lptest |lpr", it just spits out 3 empty pages. I've >> never seen anything like that before. > > It's possible that your previous printers could understand regular > (unformatted) ASCII text, but the new one doesn't. > > > >> I'm wondering if someone has this printer and made it work as a >> line printer. >> >> From the specification at >> https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2340dw_us_eu_as >> it should support LPD. > > It's not a matter of supporting LPD - it's the question which printer > language the printer can process. The default output format for > programs is PS. According to the above specification, the printer > does not understand PS. However, it supports PCL, and tools like gs > (GhostScript) should be able to convert PS to PCL. This is what you > need to send to the printer. > > I assume you're not using CUPS? In this case, a PPD file for this > printer would probably be the easiest thing, but you can get around > using CUPS of course. > > Maybe this example can help: > > First verify that the printer really understands PCL. You can use nc > (netcat) to send it some data directly. If it works, instantiate a > simple printer filter in /etc/printcap, for example: > > Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ > :rm=192.168.100.100:\ :rp=raw:\ :lp=:\ > :if=/opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ > :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ > :mx#0:\ :sh: > > Then rebuild printcap.db. Make sure the required directories do > exist. Here is the printer filter, /opt/libexec/ps2pcl-dup.sh: > > #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 /usr/local/bin/gs -q > -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER \ -sDEVICE=ljet4d > -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600x600 \ -dDuplex=true \ -sOutputFile=- - && exit > 0 exit 2 > > I use that one with a HP Laserjet 4000 DN. There is also a filter > (and printer) for non-duplex, it's simply missing the -dDuplex=true > entry. ;-) > > Adjust parameters you need, for example if you don't have standard A4 > paper or need a different resolution. > > It might even be possible that you can use this example 1:1, if the > Brother HL-L2340D speaks PCL in a similar way to the HP Laserjet 4000 > DN - see the "ljet4d" device format, which works both for a Laserjet > 4 and a Laserjet 4000 (I have both). Sidenote: That Laserjet printer > can understand PS, PCL, and ASCII text (including escape sequences > for formatting etc., or real plain text without any preprocessing). > > > > For more inspiration, check: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html > > > I print to an HL-L2340DW by using CUPS to remotely print to a Debian CUPS that has it configured as a "driverless" printer: https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting I mention this because otherwise it seems like a real hassle to install using the Brother drivers. There are entries in the lists where we went through what it would take... a real maintenance PITA, no thanks. And I don't believe there should be any problem doing what works in Debian on FreeBSD. I tried very hard to get driverless working on FreeBSD but failed, and I think it's because of the versions: Debian: 2.3.1, FreeBSD: 2.2.13 <- up-to-date However, I am no expert, so I might have done something stupid somewhere. Anyway, options all seem to work, eg two sided printing. Russell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 18:47:11 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65AA2E536B for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 18:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FZjC2CZmz4441 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 18:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=8ofUUbiIBZAqTEvyP031E7gKKM2Xue1HCZrHfiQRzE4=; b=R4ZxexDm6Kr0Cxaf7rwmznDtjD aBzeUdpZ95qoRTvujXUIxu3+wi2cBih8zuH4TJ+XUX5/4BinRciu42ud9uBPS/zFJJPuy3z0YTvv7 NxOqJmf5ODC0Qies7qcO3SAPBVe4cvcf6W0TKDRhddlSjaLtk6w9AJPFersoI3qYtjj4=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jVJdt-000F16-Qf; Mon, 04 May 2020 01:47:09 +0700 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 01:47:09 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200503184709.GA52059@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FZjC2CZmz4441 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=R4ZxexDm; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.22)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.21), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 18:47:12 -0000 --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 2020 00:12:59 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > >=20 > > I'm trying to use a Brother HL-L2340D printer as a simple networked > > line printer with lpd. I've successfully used HP and Canon printers like > > that with a simple printcap like this: > >=20 > > # by VAS > > lp|Brother HL-L2340D series:\ > > :sh:\ > > :rp=3DTEXT_P1:\ > > :rm=3D192.168.1.74:sd=3D/var/spool/output/lpd1:lf=3D/var/log/lp= d-errs: > >=20 > > but the story with Brother HL-L2340D is different. When fed some input= =20 > > with "lptest |lpr", it just spits out 3 empty pages. I've never seen > > anything like that before. >=20 > It's possible that your previous printers could understand > regular (unformatted) ASCII text, but the new one doesn't. I've never seen a network printserver (and I've seen a few) which would not understand plain ASCII text. I did not even imagine that such an abomination is at all possible. It's true, I've heard about GDI winprinters with LPT interfaces, but a networked printer?=20 >=20 > > I'm wondering if someone has this printer and made it work as a line > > printer. > >=20 > > From the specification at > > https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=3Dus&lang=3Den&prod=3Dhll23= 40dw_us_eu_as > > it should support LPD. >=20 > It's not a matter of supporting LPD - it's the question which > printer language the printer can process. The default output > format for programs is PS. According to the above specification, > the printer does not understand PS. However, it supports PCL, > and tools like gs (GhostScript) should be able to convert PS > to PCL. This is what you need to send to the printer. Indeed, it probably does not understand PostScript, though it does have a PostScript queue for some reason. But what's the point of running an LPD server on port 515/tcp and not understanding ASCII text? LPD is an acronym of "Line Printer Daemon" BTW. The text queue is here: https://imgur.com/upHVJ2g.png >=20 > I assume you're not using CUPS? In this case, a PPD file for > this printer would probably be the easiest thing, but you can > get around using CUPS of course. No, I don't use CUPS, I think it's a monster. >=20 > Maybe this example can help: >=20 > First verify that the printer really understands PCL. You can > use nc (netcat) to send it some data directly. If it works, > instantiate a simple printer filter in /etc/printcap, for example: Could you please generate a small one-page PCL file for me so that I could test it? I suppose I should netcat it to the 9100 (raw) port, right? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJerxGtAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0WLMH/3tfUqdeOAWYi+h0nQEMMwxG X/DI2rq4BIiVPcgQDw33qLQwXj+0E4/x8prLf54gIzIFDwNRXI60Mu6XD/+T5Aa2 H/mvQ91578KO+bhIAM5KQnuHELhUSQFxCb4vf3cGfnNRTwfKm2d20vt+kRXmR2PD /2Zzotevr28AHQQ9HQOOeYe4deZk4xFoFTXPmjlHDST3Avdc/p2ykFo+GRnTvole b/2MVDVuGhLIDPuEVGtULmgyMHkMx+byx9G72sqPedYMC+wZAqTU8XXWVKpby/Vn Y9eY3N67EUkP4Lw0tGzg2ZJ8RTVn6egtXAZ/h41EtBgKN0fDBn9pGo/pXSdj7Vc= =Un6/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 18:55:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7702E55ED for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 18:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FZtf5HBcz44Q4 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 18:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=2+6UKF45IeLgeLVdXoqpZfSLrlCxpKeAhZ0cwlOQ1Is=; b=JNjKizlbRBlIdrZNN5AyEUpTp0 tYYycqtHcduG9tDSHjRucfc6L/SA/0lvHxLy4eea3ge/ybkMdGPH/VLdSa3E+S09H3LbAPxb5FqvS wqo/U6SZVJ0R/sTHyZILf/28qDS8dv5gyav6bfjCQ7Dekk0dL5CLIjdNWg/sdn8DxbWQ=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jVJlp-000FAc-CD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 01:55:21 +0700 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 01:55:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200503185521.GB52059@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FZtf5HBcz44Q4 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=JNjKizlb; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.22)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.21), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 18:55:23 -0000 --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Russell L. Carter wrote: >=20 > I print to an HL-L2340DW by using CUPS to remotely print to > a Debian CUPS that has it configured as a "driverless" printer: >=20 > https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting Is it connected to the Debian system as a local (USB) printer or a networked printer?=20 Nevertheless, I don't want fancy graphics from it, I just need a line printer to print out configs, logs and such. It comes as a surprise to me that I would need "drivers" to print ascii text. It's something every printer understands, including my first dot matrix Epson in 1992 or something where you could print with "type file.txt > lpt1" in DOS. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJerxOZAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0no8H/jcIoGeWVonSougCFrjU+HTW RW7ynMVWDY3aPnnT8uazzTWL//seHnjyLYnSQBjV7tUX1VNAUhXFu2XZtBB9eZnE iIVQeQqCiPwDx8BX2NHH7NIhXPKNrHhR4OLAAC9vjHIx7W3ICR5Lr9JM8m0wVDGr x6VhdGYhhV2St0WZUEn/OvQadxS6j255/4N0WQfbT6cGqGQGMeVa+zdV9ql2QxaF 1QPv85heTShVzb8HX2nZIu07cxmEdu/C6bFNjZCwSLvTOGYCkHSKP3IYfTbf1/DR j5hR4ZXsjzDhxdu825fWQCOyGDKtM5/c8Yl0XHE6xQswtQ78pPh0gysbz10ekCw= =ElbN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 19:56:20 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2202E64FE for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 19:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FcDz0lFfz4748 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0083010276A for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 21:56:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6K0jT99WZTzf for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 21:56:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from christophs-mbp.fritz.box (p57A1FCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.161.252.194]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A217A102769 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 21:56:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: dd: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 21:56:16 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FcDz0lFfz4748 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.62)[-0.622,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.79)[0.788,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 116.203.0.0/16(2.97), asn: 24940(-1.50), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[194.252.161.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 19:56:20 -0000 I got a bit further with seeing my old SCSI-Periphals on the external = SCSI bus connected to the sym0 (ASUS SC-200 Interface). I can dd one of the disks connected there (/dev/da0) completely (2GB) But I cannot dd if=3D/dev/cd0 of=3Dcd_dump=20 Doing this, I=E2=80=99m getting=20 $ dd if=3D/dev/cd0 of=3Dcd_dump dd: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 0.000199 secs (0 bytes/sec) $=20 What=E2=80=99s wrong? /dev/da0 and /dev/cd0 are both character devices. = I can well cat /dev/cd0 >dump . =E2=80=94 Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 20:45:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18142E77C6 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 20:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FdKy0Czhz49dc for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 20:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1851F10276A for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 22:45:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8ZnD-z3mSiq6 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 22:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from christophs-mbp.fritz.box (p57A1FCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.161.252.194]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BDF98102769 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 22:45:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: dd: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 22:45:40 +0200 References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <620830DD-8E3C-445F-9FF5-5CDE1A51D1D2@kukulies.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FdKy0Czhz49dc X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.61)[-0.608,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.85)[0.849,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 116.203.0.0/16(2.96), asn: 24940(-1.50), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[194.252.161.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 20:45:42 -0000 Aah, I got it: dd if=3D/dev/cd0 of=3Dcd0_dump ibs=3D2048 =E2=80=94 Christoph > Am 03.05.2020 um 21:56 schrieb Christoph Kukulies : >=20 > I got a bit further with seeing my old SCSI-Periphals on the external = SCSI bus connected to the sym0 (ASUS SC-200 Interface). >=20 > I can dd one of the disks connected there (/dev/da0) completely (2GB) >=20 > But I cannot dd if=3D/dev/cd0 of=3Dcd_dump=20 >=20 > Doing this, I=E2=80=99m getting=20 >=20 > $ dd if=3D/dev/cd0 of=3Dcd_dump > dd: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument > 0+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 0.000199 secs (0 bytes/sec) > $=20 >=20 > What=E2=80=99s wrong? /dev/da0 and /dev/cd0 are both character = devices. I can well cat /dev/cd0 >dump . >=20 >=20 > =E2=80=94 > Christoph >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 3 22:04:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5229F2BB4BC for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 22:04:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne@Steinkamm.COM) Received: from mail.steinkamm.com (mail.steinkamm.com [194.127.175.194]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "steinkamm.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Fg4H5X6Rz4NFY for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 22:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne@Steinkamm.COM) Received: from trajan.stk.cx (trajan.stk.cx [10.8.8.110]) by basis.steinkamm.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 043M3nLN025711 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 May 2020 00:03:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne@steinkamm.com) Received: from trajan.stk.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trajan.stk.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 043M3mVs033616 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 May 2020 00:03:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne@trajan.stk.cx) Received: (from arne@localhost) by trajan.stk.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 043M3aHs033189; Mon, 4 May 2020 00:03:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne) Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 00:03:36 +0200 From: Arne Steinkamm To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, arne@steinkamm.com Subject: Re: dd: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument Message-ID: <20200503220336.GG82984@trajan.stk.cx> Reply-To: arne@Steinkamm.COM References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt@Trajan/1.12.1 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on basis.steinkamm.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Fg4H5X6Rz4NFY X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of arne@Steinkamm.COM has no SPF policy when checking 194.127.175.194) smtp.mailfrom=arne@Steinkamm.COM X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[arne@Steinkamm.COM]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.864,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[Steinkamm.COM]; REPLYTO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.35)[-0.351,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.02)]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[freebsd-questions@Steinkamm.COM,arne@Steinkamm.COM]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34646, ipnet:194.127.175.0/24, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[freebsd-questions@Steinkamm.COM,arne@Steinkamm.COM]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 22:04:03 -0000 Hi, On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 09:56:16PM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I got a bit further with seeing my old SCSI-Periphals on the external SCSI bus connected to the sym0 (ASUS SC-200 Interface). > > I can dd one of the disks connected there (/dev/da0) completely (2GB) > > But I cannot dd if=/dev/cd0 of=cd_dump > > Doing this, I???m getting > > $ dd if=/dev/cd0 of=cd_dump > dd: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument > 0+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 0.000199 secs (0 bytes/sec) > $ > > What???s wrong? /dev/da0 and /dev/cd0 are both character devices. I can well cat /dev/cd0 >dump . The blocksize of CDs is 2k so use 2k or a multiplier of it. dd if=/dev/cd0 ibs=2k of=cd_dump .//. Arne -- Arne Steinkamm | Home: Mail: arnesteinkammcom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 05:43:20 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21182C4BD8 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 05:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FsGH2bGxz3DdB for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 05:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.foucry.net (mithril.foucry.net [127.0.0.1]) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD69182D4 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 07:43:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 07:43:12 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Local_unbound and (opn)vpn Message-ID: <20200504054312.GA73151@mithril.foucry.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FsGH2bGxz3DdB X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=foucry.net (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.62 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[foucry.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[mithril.localdomain]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[mithril.localdomain]; IP_SCORE(-1.02)[ipnet: 80.67.160.0/19(-2.85), asn: 20766(-2.25), country: FR(-0.00)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20766, ipnet:80.67.160.0/19, country:FR]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 05:43:20 -0000 Dear All, I need your advice and experience about local_unbound aشs vpn (in my case it's openvpn). When local_unbound it use the /var/unbound/forward.conf file to learn the DNS server to query for the zone ".". When I launch the vpn (all the internet traffic DOES NOT GO THROUG THE VPN), I need to forward query for the compagny internal zone to the internal DNS. I can modify the file /var/unbound/forward.conf like this: forward-zone: name: "." forward-addr: 192.168.1.113 # this ひs my pihole address forward-zone: name: "cie.local" forward-addr: 192.168.127.23 forward-addr: 192.168.127.46 And restart local_unboound and it's works. But when I restart mや laptop, the start process of local_unbound is to rewrite the forward.conf file and my add is overwrite. There is a conf.d folder inside /var/unbound. I suppose I can use it in order to make my forward zone persistant. I don't find anything about the format of those files I can put in (may be the same as forward.conf) of the name of the file (cie.conf in this case?). So I need your experience and advice. Thanks in advance and take care. -- Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 06:27:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090152C5974 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 06:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FtDp6RChz3GFQ for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 06:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.24.37]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MMXDj-1jlEQr0dyZ-00JZI7; Mon, 04 May 2020 08:27:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 08:27:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Russell L. Carter" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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Carter wrote: > I print to an HL-L2340DW by using CUPS to remotely print to > a Debian CUPS that has it configured as a "driverless" printer: > > https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting > > I mention this because otherwise it seems like a real hassle to > install using the Brother drivers. There are entries in the lists > where we went through what it would take... a real maintenance > PITA, no thanks. I have never really dealt with manufacturer-supplied drivers, because CUPS brings everything you need, and you can install HP printer libraries if required (especially for multifunction inkpee printers). In worst case, I unpack the printer driver and take the PPD for CUPS - and it works. > And I don't believe there should be any problem doing what works > in Debian on FreeBSD. I tried very hard to get driverless working > on FreeBSD but failed, and I think it's because of the versions: > > Debian: 2.3.1, FreeBSD: 2.2.13 <- up-to-date > > However, I am no expert, so I might have done something stupid > somewhere. > > Anyway, options all seem to work, eg two sided printing. Everything wirll work as long as the printer gets data it can understand, no matter which protocol is used. The Brother printer mentioned here seems to understand PCL, which is more than enough to drive all its features, and generating PCL is definitely not a problem with CUPS (or gs). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 06:38:50 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE78F2C5E70 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 06:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FtVL0TcZz3Gsf for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 06:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.24.37]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mo7Bb-1iog8a0mrb-00peNL; Mon, 04 May 2020 08:38:47 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 08:38:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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I've successfully used HP and Canon printers like > > > that with a simple printcap like this: > > > > > > # by VAS > > > lp|Brother HL-L2340D series:\ > > > :sh:\ > > > :rp=TEXT_P1:\ > > > :rm=192.168.1.74:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd1:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: > > > > > > but the story with Brother HL-L2340D is different. When fed some input > > > with "lptest |lpr", it just spits out 3 empty pages. I've never seen > > > anything like that before. > > > > It's possible that your previous printers could understand > > regular (unformatted) ASCII text, but the new one doesn't. > > I've never seen a network printserver (and I've seen a few) which would > not understand plain ASCII text. I did not even imagine that such an > abomination is at all possible. It's the common situation for inkpee printers (or anything that is "consumer-oriented"). Office printers usually speak PS and PCL, and modern ones speak PDF. For processing text, they need some internal fonts. Maybe it was cheaper to get rid of the little text font engine? > It's true, I've heard about GDI winprinters with LPT interfaces, > but a networked printer? I can just imagine that "cost reduction" and "leave out all the things our users aren't going to use" have been strong drivers in constructing that printer... :-) > > > I'm wondering if someone has this printer and made it work as a line > > > printer. > > > > > > From the specification at > > > https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2340dw_us_eu_as > > > it should support LPD. > > > > It's not a matter of supporting LPD - it's the question which > > printer language the printer can process. The default output > > format for programs is PS. According to the above specification, > > the printer does not understand PS. However, it supports PCL, > > and tools like gs (GhostScript) should be able to convert PS > > to PCL. This is what you need to send to the printer. > > Indeed, it probably does not understand PostScript, though it does have > a PostScript queue for some reason. > > But what's the point of running an LPD server on port 515/tcp and not > understanding ASCII text? LPD is an acronym of "Line Printer Daemon" > BTW. The text queue is here: https://imgur.com/upHVJ2g.png You see, it's got a web interface, and to make room for that, something else had to be removed. ;-) Some printers are abre to "switch personality" depending on the input they receive, i. e., when you send PS, they start interpreting it with their internal PS processor, but when you send PCL, they handle it accordingly, and for ASCII text, they use the default fixed-width font and just print it. For some models, this personality can be explicitely chosen by the user by addressing a specific TCP port for each type of input. For your printer, sending PCL to port 9100 of its IP should probably be the easiest thing. Let system's lpd manage the printer queue locally. > > I assume you're not using CUPS? In this case, a PPD file for > > this printer would probably be the easiest thing, but you can > > get around using CUPS of course. > > No, I don't use CUPS, I think it's a monster. I can fully understand that statement. :-) > > Maybe this example can help: > > > > First verify that the printer really understands PCL. You can > > use nc (netcat) to send it some data directly. If it works, > > instantiate a simple printer filter in /etc/printcap, for example: > > Could you please generate a small one-page PCL file for me so that I > could test it? I suppose I should netcat it to the 9100 (raw) port, right? Correct - and by the way, that's the typical way of doing printer diagnostics. You prepare some input, usually PS, PCL, ASCII, PDF, and then send it directly to the printer. If it is any good, it should at least understand _one_ format. The PCL is non-ASCII, so I will send it offlist. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 06:50:58 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEF82C62D8 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 06:50:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FtmK2nHnz3HSN for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 06:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.24.37]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1My2pz-1jE5572uXH-00zVms; Mon, 04 May 2020 08:50:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 08:50:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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Carter wrote: > > > > I print to an HL-L2340DW by using CUPS to remotely print to > > a Debian CUPS that has it configured as a "driverless" printer: > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting > > Is it connected to the Debian system as a local (USB) printer or a > networked printer? > > Nevertheless, I don't want fancy graphics from it, I just need a line > printer to print out configs, logs and such. It comes as a surprise to > me that I would need "drivers" to print ascii text. It's something every > printer understands, including my first dot matrix Epson in 1992 or > something where you could print with "type file.txt > lpt1" in DOS. That would probably have been: > TYPE FILE.TXT > LPT1: or maybe > COPY FILE.TXT PRN: Note the : in the "special file name" and the fact that those are still reserved names in current "Windows" versions. ;-) However, it's really scary that a printer like the one mentioned here does not seem to understand ASCII text, even though it supports PCL standard (as shown on the specification page). Maybe font licenses were too expensive... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 08:07:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA902C8772 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 08:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FwSf3Gycz3Mnh for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 08:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.foucry.net (mithril.foucry.net [127.0.0.1]) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E641833B for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:07:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 10:07:28 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Local_unbound and (opn)vpn Message-ID: <20200504080728.GC73151@mithril.foucry.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200504054312.GA73151@mithril.foucry.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20200504054312.GA73151@mithril.foucry.net> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FwSf3Gycz3Mnh X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=foucry.net (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[foucry.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[mithril.localdomain]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[mithril.localdomain]; IP_SCORE(-1.02)[ipnet: 80.67.160.0/19(-2.84), asn: 20766(-2.24), country: FR(-0.00)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20766, ipnet:80.67.160.0/19, country:FR]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 08:07:31 -0000 Le lundi 04 mai 2020 à 07:43:12 (+0200), Jacques Foucry à écrit: > Dear All, Well forgot my question. The solution was in this mail :-) I was thinking duriong writing but not testing before sending it. The conf.d/ is used for local configuration ans should not be changed where local_unbound start. Sorry to have diatrib you from your important job for such idiot question. > > I need your advice and experience about local_unbound aشs vpn (in my case it's > openvpn). > > When local_unbound it use the /var/unbound/forward.conf file to learn the DNS > server to query for the zone ".". > > When I launch the vpn (all the internet traffic DOES NOT GO THROUG THE VPN), I > need to forward query for the compagny internal zone to the internal DNS. > > I can modify the file /var/unbound/forward.conf like this: > > forward-zone: > name: "." > forward-addr: 192.168.1.113 # this ひs my pihole address > forward-zone: > name: "cie.local" > forward-addr: 192.168.127.23 > forward-addr: 192.168.127.46 > > And restart local_unboound and it's works. > > > But when I restart mや laptop, the start process of local_unbound is to > rewrite the forward.conf file and my add is overwrite. > > There is a conf.d folder inside /var/unbound. I suppose I can use it in order > to make my forward zone persistant. I don't find anything about the format of > those files I can put in (may be the same as forward.conf) of the name of the > file (cie.conf in this case?). > > > So I need your experience and advice. > > Thanks in advance and take care. > > -- > Jacques Foucry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ---end quoted text--- -- Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 09:49:41 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFD22CAAD5 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 09:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c100048bb17f.9468f4bbc0bd83e5a8dd386164b83335@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FykW4LlWz3xwj for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 09:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c100048bb17f.9468f4bbc0bd83e5a8dd386164b83335@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588585780; x=1591177780; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=wPLsx5X3Kcw9HUm/4IyqUNvHjr41V8xcTUOi/S3Q9Uo=; b=hlzPEej3hHs686JIa0o1klPy1KsqBF4kCfs7OsrmF+EUUKapGFT7HbCIE/WqOhU+zuoFBANeYwJ8iKqvwT5mk+uZLaRVs2qewrBpygZ0AOSvJFUVoZ1/6Bj6t3n9IHgV5oK54iAH+4F2VTScnviJLqPr7ds2SCcNGtTo89V8c4I= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDQ4YmIxN2YuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 4 May 2020 05:49:37 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 4 May 2020 05:49:37 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jVXjE-0007dy-07 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 10:49:36 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 10:49:35 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Local_unbound and (opn)vpn Message-Id: <20200504104935.c3106837a6582028853b623f@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200504080728.GC73151@mithril.foucry.net> References: <20200504054312.GA73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504080728.GC73151@mithril.foucry.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FykW4LlWz3xwj X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=hlzPEej3; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c100048bb17f.9468f4bbc0bd83e5a8dd386164b83335@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c100048bb17f.9468f4bbc0bd83e5a8dd386164b83335@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.02)[ip: (-0.21), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.30), asn: 7381(0.08), country: US(-0.05)]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c100048bb17f.9468f4bbc0bd83e5a8dd386164b83335@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c100048bb17f.9468f4bbc0bd83e5a8dd386164b83335@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 09:49:41 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:07:28 +0200 Jacques Foucry wrote: > Well forgot my question. The solution was in this mail :-) > > I was thinking duriong writing but not testing before sending it. Doing this in person is a powerful debugging technique known as 'cardboard man debugging' because the person having the problem explained to feels like they could have been a cardboard cutout. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 10:01:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290902CB04B for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Fz0d6dFbz3yZm for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.24.37]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N30VJ-1j1KWg2lDR-013QWv; Mon, 04 May 2020 12:01:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 12:01:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Local_unbound and (opn)vpn Message-Id: <20200504120151.d82a5a04.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200504104935.c3106837a6582028853b623f@sohara.org> References: <20200504054312.GA73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504080728.GC73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504104935.c3106837a6582028853b623f@sohara.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:99HGg8ohaln0dpXpfoqnecTo+2+F2/IAZ7jQxxRWw9qmDgfvYBZ njohcHxnta2feRI3VDsJb7EPnP+DuWGvTeYqz+qLFChOr9AeXOOaiwSKcG4xOjLF+Q81V+x xKTuzU6pOiHBpPvpy9QT/yvBZdiSRytmWn4tVn6bkiXR/y8RcOrwh0Ue8n+AFfXpOrq8vsb PzyRbY+PWz1mCsikKOnfg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qAo0Ez1cfHQ=:HUJKDK0un0VgQKCEKyLshM 4X62Nf8vnCmb6YHIqHCZQErNT64o2a0UBqecZO8tFnjskPy7MBCgCz9oTApthjaaDovSeEUEg eEfVm1QVvV5A+P0mFTKzxztWp/zJTUqly4fTOpe3aE+MDym4jBZFMt7j17wX9AYTsXN0h4F6J NQBJwCQUzz0TWbYzeCa20MDz0riScK6U9Z+5/u6PY4+nG8hESXnaU6jev+4heSwJ1DTDctfDr uV3a1X8aD+YCYo+eXnG1/KSd8ktAgJtL/RjRiHRLnwROyO5WOfqbjqz9EFbqLCic1B4PFa0up ouOoqypUa0OdwUhhA1Z3zDuqWrHb5Rs7o6OWX+YGmD0LpEtN/TFRYgFs26Gx6WE/XFKbw77aM +oefH5d5aHTcaq4cv+75BK1tDcDGC0JHVmTiWmR/opfxw8/PEHExEnpz1yB1H/F/au+j9bFmz yxzDCqnF+01VROskQEsrgaATa0ZrimzlxnYVt3d9PnhtN2wRuYGNylTQinl2IOSzEk+RdaIqM TD5dPetVhCD9GfcTFf4EMdEEo4nNnji9S6YMV9XbazbmFQUIps4y+8EE6GVRAkpUkVpsjgbVA wdtxhRc3PvCsMCay4bTg3DibTD7HU8zVYZZtZfHd20qXdyLQqO9VFq26IyL9JE/54BAEKZYE5 St84o65qIhuXtXBazA4huGgMNQ17cGfdrpSlslDCuI8y0KCMHhUmiF3j77K69TKt0f6FbrEKQ fVWo23hHxnCrn93NeQbyL+IzKeFFUfp5s88i7dkewkwBI5iTC415Q/QBFHYIhHEkRB4u9Ar5o piZIxDg+bAsvK4rxaAXFruUCtE1A9/wwMoxxeydhSxsh6nJNxXJ8AsjAiMaFrqhkQsCCO0z X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Fz0d6dFbz3yZm X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.42 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[37.24.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.64)[0.643,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.992,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.39)[ip: (1.13), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.21), asn: 8560(2.03), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 10:01:55 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:49:35 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:07:28 +0200 > Jacques Foucry wrote: > > > Well forgot my question. The solution was in this mail :-) > > > > I was thinking duriong writing but not testing before sending it. > > Doing this in person is a powerful debugging technique known as > 'cardboard man debugging' because the person having the problem explained > to feels like they could have been a cardboard cutout. If I remember correctly, the modern terminology for this kind of action is "rubberducking". It's also available as a web-based cloud-hosted ML VR SaaS, of course... ;-) Sidenote: When you're able to explain something, no matter if to a real person or a bardboard cutout, a rubber duck or your cat, you have proven that you actually understand what you're dealing with. Requesting explanations is also a good method to filter for "knowledge actors" (impostors who think their expensive suit, their shiny certificate or their gorgeous job title can compensate their lack of knowledge). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 10:14:38 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29402CB6A2 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c100048c8cfe.be1370b02639a277bbbbe73279fa5423@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FzHL08tzz40YG for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c100048c8cfe.be1370b02639a277bbbbe73279fa5423@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588587278; x=1591179278; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=hrtSbX5vwk03+BWQfVxETmhITSJnQpd39Og4CarIKJk=; b=Iit4FhvuEkNgb4MCCnlsfEwZOfRHdASIx/S95VtTMuGEl7hB7HKDVzP/Ias8EknNJIPZPZLjEO3hsODvte9p+yGSM4LbTV1rpPFR51MqVezBXzAg8TTnKAJ22WdoPBterH5g8kxhVsNltvCwMekhuq1JR/qWY20u/a+8FNf6n7k= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDQ4YzhjZmUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 4 May 2020 06:14:35 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 4 May 2020 06:14:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jVY7N-0007kQ-RV; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:14:33 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 11:14:33 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Local_unbound and (opn)vpn Message-Id: <20200504111433.6176fee26e4f284108323517@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200504120151.d82a5a04.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20200504054312.GA73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504080728.GC73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504104935.c3106837a6582028853b623f@sohara.org> <20200504120151.d82a5a04.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FzHL08tzz40YG X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=Iit4Fhvu; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c100048c8cfe.be1370b02639a277bbbbe73279fa5423@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c100048c8cfe.be1370b02639a277bbbbe73279fa5423@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.65 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.978,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; IP_SCORE(0.02)[ip: (-0.21), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.30), asn: 7381(0.08), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c100048c8cfe.be1370b02639a277bbbbe73279fa5423@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c100048c8cfe.be1370b02639a277bbbbe73279fa5423@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 10:14:38 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2020 12:01:51 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:49:35 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:07:28 +0200 > > Jacques Foucry wrote: > > > > > Well forgot my question. The solution was in this mail :-) > > > > > > I was thinking duriong writing but not testing before sending it. > > > > Doing this in person is a powerful debugging technique known as > > 'cardboard man debugging' because the person having the problem > > explained to feels like they could have been a cardboard cutout. > > If I remember correctly, the modern terminology for this > kind of action is "rubberducking". It's also available as > a web-based cloud-hosted ML VR SaaS, of course... ;-) Some people just can't resist over-engineering a solution. Eliza would do fine and happily run locally (even running the original under emulation would barely show as load on the cheapest smartphone around today). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 10:19:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9482CB987 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FzPN0rZXz40pV for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.foucry.net (mithril.foucry.net [127.0.0.1]) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B1718370; Mon, 4 May 2020 12:19:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 12:19:50 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: Polytropon Cc: Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Local_unbound and (opn)vpn Message-ID: <20200504101950.GE73151@mithril.foucry.net> Mail-Followup-To: Polytropon , Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200504054312.GA73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504080728.GC73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504104935.c3106837a6582028853b623f@sohara.org> <20200504120151.d82a5a04.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20200504120151.d82a5a04.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FzPN0rZXz40pV X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=foucry.net (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[foucry.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[mithril.localdomain]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[mithril.localdomain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.01)[ipnet: 80.67.160.0/19(-2.82), asn: 20766(-2.23), country: FR(-0.00)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20766, ipnet:80.67.160.0/19, country:FR]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 10:19:53 -0000 Le lundi 04 mai 2020 12:01:51 (+0200), Polytropon crit: > On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:49:35 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:07:28 +0200 > > Jacques Foucry wrote: > > > > > Well forgot my question. The solution was in this mail :-) > > > > > > I was thinking duriong writing but not testing before sending it. > > > > Doing this in person is a powerful debugging technique known as > > 'cardboard man debugging' because the person having the problem explained > > to feels like they could have been a cardboard cutout. > > If I remember correctly, the modern terminology for this > kind of action is "rubberducking". It's also available as > a web-based cloud-hosted ML VR SaaS, of course... ;-) It's happend very often to me, specially when I write a mail. The solution came just when the mail is sent :-) May be should to more to my cats :-) Take care. -- Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 14:52:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7042D203F for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 14:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikitastepanov113@yandex.kz) Received: from forward101p.mail.yandex.net (forward101p.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49G5Rl6RPbz4JC1 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 14:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikitastepanov113@yandex.kz) Received: from mxback5g.mail.yandex.net (mxback5g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:166]) by forward101p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DDF8626429BB for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 17:52:14 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by mxback5g.mail.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id 8pVjDqU5Rs-qE6O00rk; Mon, 04 May 2020 17:52:14 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.kz; s=mail; t=1588603934; bh=UTExidXtQtW1XD5j96rSQBNMOsDSId9bnyOPYJO44MY=; h=Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From; b=Ce9GGPBY5w1JIG9icBIJc7mdnVEMTZo8nDSgNfTX0GE6aSGSgCmQN5TxnGtrbMnlN rAaxbM3NLqGY+sg7fpEVTxRUPcdCmxb34RmQpBLYkiKe1zJVYeXthTPOvbAQJn8MLb QXkewqnpm+JLz1RjPlx6hISf09al5lfdw9mqBgvA= Received: by myt5-094cfe5c1616.qloud-c.yandex.net with HTTP; Mon, 04 May 2020 17:52:14 +0300 From: Nikita Stepanov Envelope-From: nikitastepanov113@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to resize NTFS disk partition in freebsd? 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For resizing NTFS partitions, I suggest taking a look at GPartEd. There is a live CD / USB image that you can boot from, and use that to resize the partition. FreeBSD's tools, such as gpart and traditional fdisk, are not really the right tools for this task, even though it _might_ be possible to still use them. Resizing non-BSD partitions with a BSD system is not entirely impossible, but you should use a better tool if it is available. Keep in mind that resizing partitions and filesystems (!), no matter if extending or shrinking them, is not a trivial task, so always have a backup. ;-) Sidenote: The UBCD has also GPartEd, if I remember correctly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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References: <3456081588603934@myt5-094cfe5c1616.qloud-c.yandex.net> <20200504173637.aed317fe.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200504173637.aed317fe.freebsd@edvax.de> --vzERO1XwdolnDEqWwuhMTIYGdFDV3S21L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: tr Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 4.05.2020 18:36 tarihinde Polytropon yazd=C4=B1: > On Mon, 04 May 2020 20:52:14 +0600, Nikita Stepanov wrote: >=20 > For resizing NTFS partitions, I suggest taking a look at GPartEd. > There is a live CD / USB image that you can boot from, and use > that to resize the partition. FreeBSD's tools, such as gpart and > traditional fdisk, are not really the right tools for this task, > even though it _might_ be possible to still use them. Resizing > non-BSD partitions with a BSD system is not entirely impossible, > but you should use a better tool if it is available. >=20 Yes a tool exists. It is on Windows. I assume that partition is a part of a number of windows partitions or it may have a windows installation on it. Start windows to and goto administrative tools, run defrag tool. It will gather all files into one single block and free disk space. After that you can run disk managemnt tool and resize the partition. This tool is available on Windows 8.1 and 10. Here is a web page with screen shots. 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200503185521.GB52059@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200504085053.9bcf8d9d.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <9992c5ca-fdac-7a62-b0e4-d33afaeb042d@panix.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 15:10:58 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200504085053.9bcf8d9d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GCBF057Yz4byj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[89.1.84.166.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; IP_SCORE(-3.37)[ip: (-9.44), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-4.08), asn: 2033(-3.27), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 19:11:01 -0000 On 2020-05-04 02:50, Polytropon wrote: > However, it's really scary that a printer like the one mentioned > here does not seem to understand ASCII text, even though it > supports PCL standard (as shown on the specification page). PCL was originally ASCII with proprietary escape sequences mixed in, but that spec page says that printer understands PCL 6, which apparently is a stack-based graphics language like PostScript, except binary. It's supposed to include backward compatibility with PCL 5, but doesn't always. So possibly what that printer understands has nothing to do with ASCII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_Command_Language I don't like it either, but there is heavy pressure to hold down the cost of printers. 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FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:40.64.0.0/10, country:US]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 01:39:37 -0000 I don't always get a response but while I'm getting a little more familiar = with networking and jails, especially from absolute freebsd and these maili= ng lists I thought I would ask a few questions. First of all, what are some beginner networking tasks I could complete whil= e getting familiar? Second, if I'm only using one network interface card at a time, are there s= till networking tasks I can complete and build a stronger connection to the= internet with? Third, if learning to use ping and route but don't quite undserstand it's a= pplication yet. If I set up dns and dhcp can I set up a third ip that's ipv= 6 for the hell of it? Sent from Outlook Mobile From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 05:12:22 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38FE2D6FDE for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 05:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GSX55n3Sz4KK0 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 05:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja) X-Originating-IP: 75.111.230.228 Received: from [10.0.0.62] (75-111-230-228.lbbkcmtk04.res.dyn.suddenlink.net [75.111.230.228]) (Authenticated sender: steven@ubiquitous.ninja) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDE7920002; Tue, 5 May 2020 05:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Networking Routing Firewalling To: Brandon helsley , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: Reply-To: quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja From: Quantafac Organization: Ubiquitous Ninja Message-ID: <1d54d723-493c-4dd5-6866-e0146829ecdc@ubiquitous.ninja> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 00:12:15 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GSX55n3Sz4KK0 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja designates 217.70.183.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.19 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip4:217.70.183.192/28:c]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RBL_MAILSPIKE_BAD(1.00)[200.183.70.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.12]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[200.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[228.230.111.75.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ubiquitous.ninja]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.09)[ip: (-2.57), ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-1.59), asn: 29169(-1.28), country: FR(-0.00)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 05:12:23 -0000 Brandon, Yes there are networking tasks that you can learn with a single interface. * You can setup virtual networks using jails using manual addressing to play with different configurations to better understand what each setting does. Try to ping your different jails to see if you set it up properly and it acts as you expect. * Sub-netting * Routing * Telnet * SSH ping is used to verify that basic network connectivity exists with your target. It essentially verifies that there is a path to get there and how long it took. It is usually the first tool in troubleshooting a network connection. Can it ping? Are you losing any pings? Are the ping times high? traceroute shows you the route ping takes to get to it's target. If you lose connection to a device you want to make sure the path to get to it is good and hopefully find where it is getting dropped so you know where to start looking. route is used to modify the network path (route) that is taken to reach any particular network (most often the internet) or target system. netstat -r will show you your systems current routing table configuration. Not sure what you mean on your last question. DNS is not an IP but is a service that holds records that point to IPs or other names/aliases. You can have an IPv4 and an IPv6 address active on the same interface. You can actually have multiple IPs of either type setup on a single interface if you want. I would recommend you understand the basics of networking first. IPs, subnets, gateways, routes and what they do. This is an in depth guide on TCP/IP it will tell you more than you might ever want to know about the protocols. http://tcpipguide.com/free/index.htm An entertaining intro to IPv6 networking https://www.networkingwithfish.com/understanding-ipv6-the-journey-begins/ I like Eli the Computer Guy on Youtube. He has a pretty good intro to networking here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL8RSFQG8do&t=1369s --- Thanks, Steven On 5/4/20 8:39 PM, Brandon helsley wrote: > I don't always get a response but while I'm getting a little more familiar with networking and jails, especially from absolute freebsd and these mailing lists I thought I would ask a few questions. > > First of all, what are some beginner networking tasks I could complete while getting familiar? > > Second, if I'm only using one network interface card at a time, are there still networking tasks I can complete and build a stronger connection to the internet with? > > Third, if learning to use ping and route but don't quite undserstand it's application yet. 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With the radeon driver (xf86-video-amdgpu-19.1.0_1), display resolution seems right, but the mouse cursor isn't visible. In /var/log/messages, I see tons of "error: [drm:pid2974:radeon_crtc_cursor_move] *ERROR* radeon_crtc_cursor_move: x(-1) < 0" messages (w/o newline, in case that matters). I installed drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20200221, which did the trick once (but that installation had to be removed after an update that caused a kernel crash at boot); this time round, it doesn't seem to be working, so this may be a necessary but not sufficient element. from rc.conf: kld_list="linux linux64 cuse /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" I've done quite a bit of searching, so far w/o success ... Does anyone have suggestions for me how to get the cursor back? I'd really like to stick to BSD (ZFS alone is worth the effort, and if I get boot environments sorted out too, so much the better!) ... TIA Michael -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ recursion, n: see 'recursion' From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 05:44:44 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDB62D7E78 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 05:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2e.google.com (mail-io1-xd2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GTFR1ShLz4Lwd for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 05:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2e.google.com with SMTP id z2so699351iol.11 for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 22:44:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=u5fFkO0xxmVfVX+Jb/DXtD7uA8CmTMeZWRaBF9WPCkA=; b=PhIiEXJOLIW+G+i5P+8rHogVBq2v7SxmnD7hvb+NV8DmwsT2fOaa3GNGOchdXw/8gr LWVFSXtHCT56fKf6qFZRN7X+Hvda6ss1z+34Q5WVILhqQgLvFy7v385j3VpWAhLx3il/ KaMASJnsp3k+um7JAa66T62K8wjqkuIxCeBiVAps6VNOyexidnvu6nemNCpOjCEqkq4O x67pqWlXwaSEsgwqttvjl1wYvb/lOjipLiO6aNKNIHHeM7Bkx9d9jxYb1gGZUTawKTt2 DGfv924Trcd8FC26bO+GvCu7yar5YPfkFQ/T5cBGdV3ahl3leWA0hg6ge8Lw4bZjPUCL +Y2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=u5fFkO0xxmVfVX+Jb/DXtD7uA8CmTMeZWRaBF9WPCkA=; b=FOd3D9MFq03SViDrTVVTT1/baMF/7Ty77DPRdO2qBlFNakd1bZjLbbPLdV8YDE/IrJ +Ve6ccCychW+4OEAq4Tr6j69dk4mpXOfnj1EBdMsAyGPfGhT3NVE393aM5mCb0Sz3yKJ DE3T3eJ09M5slIG+F6mhlG1s31PCsCSJC5OlEfD4ag0sN5lxvaCYnYMgj0cQpY7YLQWI SKOtFqdt5MPHyNlyDgmeoZ43jnUx0iyPkrmvW2oUqAStvD8UXPYq5GzTP43nvYbYwaLS L2qnfOm5zUboUY2zYPlQTcyExMCk8q7OBYSyCNo3xRdiTDTtnQJxpQUFXFisleoWJh6U SswA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pub2BH7/ZdhRMlPVKpIHb6JmW1Qj8lA7crZIj0Jvtoaxg4XC61ma wR4GgrhEP5xPFs1YHstjfMFP55QPAc5a1deWMK73vSGA X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJu2yANfMNjC6rwzjWqDS6kdeyt94kX2xgFKC7mg3gzIR/SKz0WHZsaTidU1DGxsrHeJA8jBPe8ZVKU/F3xmnw= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9c09:: with SMTP id 9mr1847624ioe.26.1588657482105; Mon, 04 May 2020 22:44:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 01:44:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Networking Routing Firewalling To: Brandon helsley Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GTFR1ShLz4Lwd X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=PhIiEXJO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.15), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 05:44:44 -0000 On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:39 PM Brandon helsley wrote: > I don't always get a response but while I'm getting a little more familiar > with networking and jails, especially from absolute freebsd and these > mailing lists I thought I would ask a few questions. > > First of all, what are some beginner networking tasks I could complete > while getting familiar? > This is a advanced beginner project but might be a good goal to strive for since it will demostrate the full power of networking and segmenting your machine into several "machines". Note you should only do this if you have 4 or more cores, more then 4 GB of RAM and 100+ GB of disk available: Set up and configure the following virtual machines using byhve: File/Print/DNS server running FreeBSD A Linux machine that uses shared (with the server above) set of common home directories (via NFS) A Windows machine that has access the home directories on the server above (via CIFS/Samba) > Second, if I'm only using one network interface card at a time, are there > still networking tasks I can complete and build a stronger connection to > the internet with? > The above setup does just that. -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 06:50:53 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A2D2D9FFF for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 06:50:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004ae074e.609eaafdaa14da7a55f332c575e25c9f@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GVjm2F9kz4Q89 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 06:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004ae074e.609eaafdaa14da7a55f332c575e25c9f@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588661452; x=1591253452; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=8O5J4iaLmFVcn4iz+UoRgWKlXx5gz91liw3DU3lzGJs=; b=uZHsuUc9iZ2TZn0xfI8bZSgBh4Y2XptFD3ZPh63LEAb9y1/Evp9sG4s2dErxTiU53pK8CL4TPA+jvj2dX3B9Zd2vp9MlUqNyVlvBIdW5Y9gqnM8IXD7Yw/UM8txPg++GcNCb1Gu1HPI+pe4uFHQjrtdv2Rm5CI130Tm0hLs7QnE= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDRhZTA3NGUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.2]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 5 May 2020 02:50:42 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 5 May 2020 02:50:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jVrPc-000CXN-Pd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 07:50:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 07:50:40 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Networking Routing Firewalling Message-Id: <20200505075040.76b1bd1da33be994bdc3eed9@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GVjm2F9kz4Q89 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=uZHsuUc9; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c10004ae074e.609eaafdaa14da7a55f332c575e25c9f@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c10004ae074e.609eaafdaa14da7a55f332c575e25c9f@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.02)[ip: (-0.21), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.30), asn: 7381(0.08), country: US(-0.05)]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10004ae074e.609eaafdaa14da7a55f332c575e25c9f@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10004ae074e.609eaafdaa14da7a55f332c575e25c9f@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 06:50:53 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 01:44:30 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > This is a advanced beginner project but might be a good goal to strive for > since it will demostrate the full power of networking and segmenting your > machine into several "machines". Note you should only do this if you > have 4 or more cores, more then 4 GB of RAM and 100+ GB of disk available: For a lighter alternative follow Quantafac's suggestion of building a network of jails - many years ago I simulated a complete two site system with two sets of database, middleware and web front end servers running at each site on a single machine and used it to test all the failover scenarios (including the cross coupled dual master failover database arrangement). It went into production as two physical machines at each site, each one running one copy of the stack in three jails. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 07:57:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35E52DB651 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 07:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GXB634f7z4Tl5 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 07:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M3D7V-1jYtFc3N3F-003gTn; Tue, 05 May 2020 09:56:57 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 09:56:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-Id: <20200505095657.b436931b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <9992c5ca-fdac-7a62-b0e4-d33afaeb042d@panix.com> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200503185521.GB52059@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200504085053.9bcf8d9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <9992c5ca-fdac-7a62-b0e4-d33afaeb042d@panix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:g9376uV1obJC7ZI22sqHF1+QXjres87YGh8+6jEvRcT6o3vPKFt SkvbcFMONaS5BaKNWIPJOmuiDHicSxGFLJoIExPtQ/R5omkg74sXgF8Z+BemOmEu98bOZ4R BfNYoCt8RzCVzQyWdH+f/W0wNVfXtpadgwoQyQrsyqWa7Xb0V2I/O/znVvWdRjOctYwtA1V z+UPntJ8aZ5XJ9NJXiRog== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:FjKn8dxRLwU=:RCqZFiF/Hf3vEFlLpPHSaG 3xmHUR7G6fe19zmodz5CknYwXzlp0KPMU+8VCv1f0IoFD8rx0QHWn2xwyIajJb6L5d6fbqG6R VIfc4cKY6wddswWtVxkmtNIabOs6CbOxYG1n32iln0VmR/qE6FKzGMv4y4waaxN6AR7IUEf4C 6x+m6IFlfdLrc9oFArZjoTd7+glnIP+bx8bS1s3CMiegO7MS6Lx521Y08tMbkNgxINqBnGej/ 9xpjPoWhNpWKvoQmYJ18nvdL1rscA5nGk995/u3UD5Ieq+YIiEjwfN1xPMCgdZGjEafdT/pTy HXSHE+zfTScyUFsfbLETsUw6bH9yvvdi31yIXtEnu9zVrnh+M72KsXt5z0PaDk6johbZnq6lK n6oSnQTZDvQRL7eED28nUvIdPLxZtDM51pl+8gBmmEwDAMWmpnHtI7vmaEzDFHNXqdeIVPyjT 4FccSajANH9Hcz/K4IbDAdisXFYk5FNU7gQKs1ulxGoH5x13y7BUM7X3Lefa2x+kKfKyd1bVV Hpi2xrMYzAmRrUEgegcReuE0inp77L4JMjfnQwyp6bsGXwkmLlcQBx8BkJMLxcf2HwwBYnQTC h5tC/0QnjcaScMi4hk9IvR+nSNJYIYhU0yI6xznkEBEiuY476BMckkTCBrj8uBdjXNtP7f7Be SiwV+j1ybLvgFyTS5JhJg5dCDZ7Qfq+rQepARJhEbPNzDIy7VZyxzD0nuedhaJ91+rYWeN5+B Wk+9uwY7cwVZ6/Ie2lwHnpIxDRm5iiaaKASBzXF6GioBUs9VdbO9IDez2IS7Q/LnfmSlZFY1s dIU5Sh8JEPNGtTlzq59jCpFw78CXiWQ9YqDd7xA5fx8JH8rRWlPS2GJ/3e9ETGPbu4rYG/g X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GXB634f7z4Tl5 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.57 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[16.9.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.91)[0.909,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.26)[ip: (0.47), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.21), asn: 8560(2.04), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 07:57:03 -0000 On Mon, 4 May 2020 15:10:58 -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2020-05-04 02:50, Polytropon wrote: > > > However, it's really scary that a printer like the one mentioned > > here does not seem to understand ASCII text, even though it > > supports PCL standard (as shown on the specification page). > > > PCL was originally ASCII with proprietary escape sequences mixed in, but > that spec page says that printer understands PCL 6, which apparently is > a stack-based graphics language like PostScript, except binary. It's > supposed to include backward compatibility with PCL 5, but doesn't > always. So possibly what that printer understands has nothing to do with > ASCII. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_Command_Language > > I don't like it either, but there is heavy pressure to hold down the > cost of printers. Thank you, that is an important note! PCL backward compatibility might be the reason why the printer accepts PCL intended for a Laserjet 4 (I don't know, maybe PCL 3?), but doesn't actually print anything. So the printer filter will have to explicitely output PCL 6. That could be achieved using a different output device for gs, or using CUPS in combination with the PPD file provided by Brother. This of course brings you all the "joy" of using CUPS... ;-) Maybe this thread can also help: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2017-July/277994.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 08:43:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A742DC9CD for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 08:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49GYCF0T1nz4Xpm for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 08:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDC810276A for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:42:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id snkeCaT4Km48 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:42:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from christophs-mbp.fritz.box (p57A1FCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.161.252.194]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF70A102769 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:42:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: g_vfs_done() ada2p1 error = 5 Message-Id: <2ED6F7F2-0F70-49F0-AF9F-E6E4CE11B2C3@kukulies.org> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 10:42:56 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GYCF0T1nz4Xpm X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.74)[-0.742,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.53)[0.530,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 116.203.0.0/16(2.96), asn: 24940(-1.50), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[194.252.161.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 08:43:06 -0000 I have a GPT partitioned SSD here which was serving as a boot volume of = my previously installed FreeBSD 8.0 and now, as I have 12.1 installed and booting from that I = have mounted this SD into=20 my running system. In my system log I=E2=80=99m seeing the following error message (and = when I try to mount that partition, I=E2=80=99m getting an INPUT/OUTPUT error also): g_vfs_done():ada2p1[READ(offest=3D262144, length=3D8192)]error =3D 5 ada2 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada2: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device ada2: Serial Number S1D5NSAD779704E ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada2: Command Queueing enabled ada2: 114473MB (234441648 512 byte sectors) ada2: quirks=3D0x3<4K,NCQ_TRIM_BROKEN> $ gpart list ada2 Geom name: ada2 modified: false state: OK fwheads: 16 fwsectors: 63 last: 234441614 first: 34 entries: 128 scheme: GPT Providers: 1. Name: ada2p1 Mediasize: 65536 (64K) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 4096 Stripeoffset: 1024 Mode: r0w0e0 efimedia: HD(1,GPT,8d4f6bbc-XXXX-XXXX-9255-0025238adc5e,0x22,0x80) rawuuid: 8d4f6bbc-XXXX-XXXX-9255-0025238adc5e rawtype: 83bd6b9d-XXXX-XXXX-be0b-001560b84f0f label: (null) length: 65536 offset: 17408 type: freebsd-boot index: 1 end: 161 start: 34 2. Name: ada2p2 Mediasize: 114890309632 (107G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 4096 Stripeoffset: 1024 Mode: r1w1e1 efimedia: = HD(2,GPT,8d50616c-XXXX-XXXX-9255-0025238adc5e,0xa2,0xd5fff80) rawuuid: 8d50616c-88db-XXXX-XXXX-0025228adc5e rawtype: 516e7cb6-XXXX-XXXX-8ff8-00022d09712b label: (null) length: 114890309632 offset: 82944 type: freebsd-ufs index: 2 end: 224395297 start: 162 3. Name: ada2p3 Mediasize: 4294967296 (4.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 4096 Stripeoffset: 1024 Mode: r0w0e0 efimedia: = HD(3,GPT,8d526158-XXXX-XXXX-9255-0025228adc5e,0xd600022,0x800000) rawuuid: 8d526158-88db-XXXX-XXXX-0025228adc5e rawtype: 516e7cb5-XXXX-XXXX-8ff8-00022d09712b label: (null) length: 4294967296 offset: 114890392576 type: freebsd-swap index: 3 end: 232783905 start: 224395298 Consumers: 1. Name: ada2 Mediasize: 120034123776 (112G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 4096 Stripeoffset: 0 Mode: r1w1e2 $=20 What does this error message mean? How do I get rid of it? =E2=80=94 Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 08:50:36 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A462DCC0D for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 08:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GYMv0lwVz4Y5h for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 08:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MdeSn-1iwYX2246D-00ZjXi; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:50:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 10:50:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: g_vfs_done() ada2p1 error = 5 Message-Id: <20200505105033.ff69a110.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <2ED6F7F2-0F70-49F0-AF9F-E6E4CE11B2C3@kukulies.org> References: <2ED6F7F2-0F70-49F0-AF9F-E6E4CE11B2C3@kukulies.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:66pbVkILnTnAdlDa1WzsyCvtqyJb812Vq4IjGOd3yNif/fzPvZu tm2tMQ+o6CYRuUBHkrFPM7RvOIC6lvSjJHv8I66qsw42QAlhA7vC5OxyXF8xZz3ZWbF+aDe 23LrkL516VMMlbS7hoFkKm+IZLWA1ynLYNKsr0bDZobcaZVSPY7N7cQI6yz/MQdbgaffYaL uTPtAZE2kc/fiO31H7IWQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:3SUJnNC2Gq8=:Xc1jEKCq9GKnKboAmVp6aA ZqwQFZJ+v5X/TKPREVWBIcBTxS5enuAac569pELYxTeWwMrEsqmS/WKwm0hu0GSdIOU+211iq E8Kh206ZPkKHkkMoKmOoc3IEkN1Jk1dKXZLDIqaJTn6J5JKCdwDNJ41kg2ISrOYKkUd5NRJwQ SZMsY105cJhxvRqrLouaZ/iXlfYb87OkCs5ukXm6zTZ4H76cGK+he0MxpuQhLA0z7hw64n/F0 DrWUIfufxy78MlNFHOPdEkbxTISqt3hUDta0Hs9KMna2gUFkiXiye2wwrnDY9vyqqwUVwrWBk 1tJagxyiIy1QQ+i3mbAThXKiGmNySGo6s06URPhFodfRfc/NtFgFIp5J+fgVLoJOgGPHi+SeR zOyNgnHmy1Gw9EQ79LrOfnXV1i6RQTj5SmZN9pkUouZemcWEiXyIfuc2z8rPnS4chEpYsLGT3 inQWqvbJrATDq5G8oYd/GMJwpKrRUJAYWuU+vyYcaPjU0/xJhwny5k3SfRZOjzA22rrg7eElQ xRgOvZGZcFVpW+3A1U8xIpFUYxmU75h6rGCnvfXA9rSgttDfpMTGmC4mVglbo1BtDF8Fosy5a 3DOCcs0TEwEU7+BcZJS4CbbAIzL5BM0Bi17vAmBpAz6bs7AjmOYLgDOouXzzlfuVKSV/ZAR9H mcWg+e05Pwio358Jj5vYfGZQVgOB5pGqSz+qDuzWLn1rpOWX0GOGB1t+xv/zsgGNxu7wX4NqC kuYiPFgXpIDQa/wjbPJ5o+ugy3BmUCiPC8kvE7KyLLIYg73C55Epd2Cdt9eWwE8u1qVg7KRPl Y70kc4NZTikcTTS8Yqv2o6Zu/7x2YezaC/KST0rvcIRZoJKW0ElLeQ29q7d0yo87ccgEbmE X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GYMv0lwVz4Y5h X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.91 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[16.9.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.275,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.978,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.26)[ip: (0.47), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.04), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 08:50:36 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 10:42:56 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I have a GPT partitioned SSD here which was serving as a boot > volume of my previously installed > FreeBSD 8.0 and now, as I have 12.1 installed and booting from > that I have mounted this SD into > my running system. > > In my system log I’m seeing the following error message (and when > I try to mount that partition, I’m getting an > INPUT/OUTPUT error also): > > g_vfs_done():ada2p1[READ(offest=262144, length=8192)]error = 5 > > ada2 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 > [...] > > What does this error message mean? How do I get rid of it? Could it be that the SSD has reached the end of its lifetime? I've seen similar messages on regular hard disks which were about to die... Can you check the SSD with smartctl and see if there is something suspicious? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 09:17:18 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0662DDEF2 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 09:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49GYyh4Gmwz4b8Y for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 09:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E9310276A; Tue, 5 May 2020 11:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90OWrG1h7IEk; Tue, 5 May 2020 11:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from christophs-mbp.fritz.box (p57A1FCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.161.252.194]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 13535102769; Tue, 5 May 2020 11:17:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: g_vfs_done() ada2p1 error = 5 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 11:17:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20200505105033.ff69a110.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Polytropon References: <2ED6F7F2-0F70-49F0-AF9F-E6E4CE11B2C3@kukulies.org> <20200505105033.ff69a110.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GYyh4Gmwz4b8Y X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.57 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.79)[0.789,0]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.993,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 116.203.0.0/16(2.95), asn: 24940(-1.50), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[194.252.161.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 09:17:18 -0000 > Am 05.05.2020 um 10:50 schrieb Polytropon : >=20 > On Tue, 5 May 2020 10:42:56 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> I have a GPT partitioned SSD here which was serving as a boot >> volume of my previously installed >> FreeBSD 8.0 and now, as I have 12.1 installed and booting from >> that I have mounted this SD into=20 >> my running system. >>=20 >> In my system log I=E2=80=99m seeing the following error message (and = when >> I try to mount that partition, I=E2=80=99m getting an >> INPUT/OUTPUT error also): >>=20 >> g_vfs_done():ada2p1[READ(offest=3D262144, length=3D8192)]error =3D 5 >>=20 >> ada2 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 >> [...] >>=20 >> What does this error message mean? How do I get rid of it? >=20 > Could it be that the SSD has reached the end of its lifetime? Hope not. Was trusting that FreeBSD takes care of saving SSDs from = degrading over time. > I've seen similar messages on regular hard disks which were > about to die... Can you check the SSD with smartctl and see > if there is something suspicious? >=20 The output of smartctl is overwhelming :) Happen to know what I should = look for? smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, = www.smartmontools.org =3D=3D=3D START OF INFORMATION SECTION =3D=3D=3D Model Family: Samsung based SSDs Device Model: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB Serial Number: S1D5NSAD978704E LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 8a002c09c Firmware Version: EXT0AB0Q User Capacity: 120,034,123,776 bytes [120 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Rotation Rate: Solid State Device Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4c SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Tue May 5 11:11:45 2020 CEST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled =3D=3D=3D START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION =3D=3D=3D SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: = Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine = completed without error or no self-test = has ever=20 been run. Total time to complete Offline=20 data collection: ( 4200) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x53) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection = on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon = new command. No Offline surface scan = supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test = supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging = supported. Short self-test routine=20 recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 70) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control = supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE = UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always = - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 091 091 000 Old_age Always = - 42753 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always = - 69 177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0013 099 099 000 Pre-fail Always = - 2 179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always = - 0 181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always = - 0 182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always = - 0 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always = - 0 187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always = - 0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032 073 057 000 Old_age Always = - 27 195 ECC_Error_Rate 0x001a 200 200 000 Old_age Always = - 0 199 CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always = - 0 235 POR_Recovery_Count 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always = - 51 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always = - 1078954976 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. 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It's supposed to include backward compatibility with >> PCL 5, but doesn't always. So possibly what that printer understands >> has nothing to do with ASCII. >>=20 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_Command_Language >>=20 >> I don't like it either, but there is heavy pressure to hold down the=20 >> cost of printers. =20 > >Thank you, that is an important note! PCL backward compatibility >might be the reason why the printer accepts PCL intended for a >Laserjet 4 (I don't know, maybe PCL 3?), but doesn't actually >print anything. So the printer filter will have to explicitely >output PCL 6. That could be achieved using a different output >device for gs, or using CUPS in combination with the PPD file >provided by Brother. This of course brings you all the "joy" >of using CUPS... ;-) > >Maybe this thread can also help: > >https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2017-July/277994.html Poly, I know you are going to disagree with me here vehemently, but the problems expressed by the OP are one of the reasons I so detest 'printing' under FreeBSD. This is 2020, not 1820. There is absolutely no reason that a user should have to go through all this effort required to print, or FAX, or Scan or Copy a document. I have used Brother printers for years and generally like them far better than HP or other manufacturers, but that is a personal preference. In cases where 'Brother' does supply a PPD, I, unfortunately, have to use 'cups' to utilize that file. If there is no readily available PPD via Brother for a particular printer, I extract it from the 'printer driver' cd supplied by Brother for the device or download the driver from Brother and extract the PPD from it. Obviously, that requires a Windows machine. If you don't happen to have on handy, I am sure you must know a friend or two who does and is willing to help you out. In any case, this will only assist you with printing. All of the other functions that are readily available on a Windows machine are usually cloaked away from FreeBSD operators. Brother does supply some utilities for Linux and Debian, but not FreeBSD. I had a telephone conversation several years ago with a Brother technician. I asked him directly why they did not support FreeBSD more aggressively. He stated that he used Linux on his home machine. He went on to say that FreeBSD does not adhere to common standards. I assume he meant 'Linux' standards. He claimed that writing drivers for FreeBSD were not cost-effective since they would require constant maintenance and that the market share for FreeBSD did not justify the cost. He also claimed that ripping the PPD from a Windows driver was probably the best idea if Brother did not supply a PPD for the product. He also stated that Brother did supply PPD's for their better model printers. Of course, that doesn't help with the other functions. I know you are going to tell me that there are programs available that will allow faxing or scanning, but they are way more trouble than I am willing to put up with. Plus, they are usually separate programs that typically do not work well together. I have not seen any that would enable me to do a copy and attach it to email or convert to another format easily, if at all. The bottom line is 'time is money,' and I am not at all interested in writing a 'conf' or XML file to perform a function that I can already do on a Windows machine without any of the aggravation. Now with the advent of 'cloud printing,' I can see things only getting more perverse. In my opinion, the FOSS community has never put any real effort into creating an environment where 'printing' and the olla podrida of other functions that a modern printer can perform, are not considered of any real importance. I find it troublesome that the concept of "It should just work" has never entered the lexicon of so many users. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/mHHMn6+I6KntCT8hx+=KKCm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl6xNjEACgkQOHMGOIfe xWQZEwf9H14LVPerb6ZMVFaDG4mpiErPnS21kIBQBLgC936NvlMyls8hceBiD2gu Q2x1fp72XOwTvV/j2KkeguJ0/RWABgTSC3YSwKp/wL1KOGlQrj8Krl12igW/nxes 5fDT5umVnIhRt2lDd5nfXvLthVpVx0f4QQxGkS0nm41k7VDZgY/7I+joTU4jmYa7 BXU+Fw/8pc0/iXN2/3zS/WHRRJDXlCgbd2sDHbNL7bnKHd+uPfu5AVtoDEGLluNl XcP/t0HyRBsXoe6oO/kZ9nL5w5nv5j5HoeU6yJXJdR8Gbe3BrrkRiXmaGYRevBYI kPdsw0BR8dTFjjERTS6Ee615+J7CAQ== =NXsm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/mHHMn6+I6KntCT8hx+=KKCm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 09:53:59 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0452DF6CE for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 09:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com (mail-io1-xd2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GZn22DDxz4fYv for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 09:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id 19so1281241ioz.10 for ; Tue, 05 May 2020 02:53:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=d6oX72Uok+QlqtOi/DWzZx47gOLV+tDcUXs+bswNUKo=; b=tRtYAU5QXvZBJPxkJXj2q6DfrgMZ1K7Kb5q7K2zshvsVHiQQgoI3HK4/0fZjqDyjrm M/G/Svt9Eer0ZsQqZzP8etUWXxW+Ka+j2WarLA/WU0WnQfdIxeleiDMY8bBd7bOi9K1G g/GwguI5aFNvo1SP7gfQxJWsDmPm6SqAAz+1YxhlKdyLjx2QnA2c7GZQEfECQqyXbCFR vlLMR/2TNC2v+NX10JNPbug3kCQeKnpUT7veMI4Nbs5uNL60LEIWWlVPGr97shtIdxfW AOQvoiWCTwJmA8wwB9MuatTHZ3FjSuN2c5rnK6eCUqBqcbx2craSlN6VCqACwggHb5ik 74WA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=d6oX72Uok+QlqtOi/DWzZx47gOLV+tDcUXs+bswNUKo=; b=WPrr2VDoB25BNw+WcI2ky0OjIdaFDuOW9gcsYrCTVYI8G7vzs6L2cItfDalif777PB GGyixOQVJPTy4wnFFyZmIYnj4LF7YJqqgeWUyuk8nkaqWy5J6d+TDgACxHjhFvSHv2iE vX+uLz/URdDA0pBqdlRgDhR9XQivYIpbkSmxw7qJkS2tlWjuM0BrLievbg8vCovjFx18 mmd3WveecjLGo4sNSrl6ZZ/1ILmAQgRIB3jIxtTfPUSO1liGiPmjFY1D4DqEDbZEnZNI 9fAxhL2uG2xkTimE4er4xzRUonCm8x3W6MFkjT6C+LCNOgCaYLoiWtxyC+Uu+K7O/TxG ZWvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZ0ed0DetaFCLI3/cHTrA1Jz2DRQP1o35FO7wnnQPEgcWJ2dxSx 5tkHuVpINVyJ2CXvEm9xXPWeG0vN4XD3779TP7M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypK0778w81svUi2+dkdTffOLwhNDJUDgoCVw2LIGqLMaIddimAlHErZlVcAbAJz+IrTSKIzLyCobfS6wA+eNULc= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8986:: with SMTP id m6mr2503432iol.174.1588672436758; Tue, 05 May 2020 02:53:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3971481588671556@myt2-8316c2cade1b.qloud-c.yandex.net> In-Reply-To: <3971481588671556@myt2-8316c2cade1b.qloud-c.yandex.net> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 05:53:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Does swap increase freebsd performance? To: Nikita Stepanov Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GZn22DDxz4fYv X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=tRtYAU5Q; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.35), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 09:53:59 -0000 Depends on what you mean by improve performance... if you mean raw speed then no it doesn't (it slows it down if you ever need to actually use the swap space)... if you mean the amount of "RAM" then yes it does On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:41 AM Nikita Stepanov wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. 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Please type a body with your question even if it is a repeat of the subject. Swap can increase performance by making more of the memory available for active use. Many programs have memory allocated that is very rarely used or even only used at startup, pushing this out to swap frees physical memory for more active use such as caching. Whether this makes a difference to performance or not depends greatly on the workload, or more importantly the memory pressure the workload produces. If there is plenty of memory then swap won't help and there is overhead involved in writing pages out to swap so it will reduce performance very slightly. If there is just about enough memory then swap will make it more useful and increase performance. This 'sweet spot' is in reality often quite wide depending on the benefits of caching on workload and so forth. If there is insufficient memory then swap will keep things working but performance will suffer badly. This can be very important in the face of an unusual load spike. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 10:09:39 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852CA2E0222 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gb763DD4z3CYd for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M1ZQT-1jYNDo3FWd-003287; Tue, 05 May 2020 12:09:35 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 12:09:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Nikita Stepanov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does swap increase freebsd performance? 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It doesn't make anything faster or slower. Swap is disk I/O, which is slower than memory I/O, so when swap is being used, the system is slower, but still responsive - the opposite of being non-responsive and maybe crashing / blocking due to running out of memory. You _can_ understand the presence and use of swap as an increase of performance, compared to that alternative. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 10:12:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FF42E061F for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GbBQ2gW0z3D97 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N8XDT-1j0zkr11CD-014SZU; Tue, 05 May 2020 12:12:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 12:12:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Nikita Stepanov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which version of freebsd Is faster: amd64 or i386? 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On a amd64-capable system, using i386 might be interesting because less RAM is needed; I don't know about execution speed of 32 bit code on a 64 bit CPU. If the system does not have more than approx. 4 GB, i386 won't reach the maximum amount of memory it can manage without PAE. So maybe on older 64 bit system it might actually be an advantage to use i386, as long as you don't need any specific software that's only available on amd64. On a i386-capable system, amd64 of course won't even work. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Carter wrote: > > >=20 > > > I print to an HL-L2340DW by using CUPS to remotely print to > > > a Debian CUPS that has it configured as a "driverless" printer: > > >=20 > > > https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting > >=20 > > Is it connected to the Debian system as a local (USB) printer or a > > networked printer?=20 > >=20 > > Nevertheless, I don't want fancy graphics from it, I just need a line > > printer to print out configs, logs and such. It comes as a surprise to > > me that I would need "drivers" to print ascii text. It's something every > > printer understands, including my first dot matrix Epson in 1992 or > > something where you could print with "type file.txt > lpt1" in DOS. >=20 > That would probably have been: >=20 > > TYPE FILE.TXT > LPT1: >=20 > or maybe >=20 > > COPY FILE.TXT PRN: >=20 > Note the : in the "special file name" and the fact that those > are still reserved names in current "Windows" versions. ;-) I'm almost sure the colon after "LPT1" or "PRN" was not required, those were reserved device names even without a colon. >=20 >=20 > However, it's really scary that a printer like the one mentioned > here does not seem to understand ASCII text, even though it > supports PCL standard (as shown on the specification page). I've been unable to print anything PCL on it (thank you for your samples, but no success so far). > Maybe font licenses were too expensive... ;-) I would not mind uploading fonts into a line printer. I used to do that a couple of times from a printcap filter, to print Cyrillic on a Laser Jet printer without Cyrillic characters. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJesT0KAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0jsAH/AhakQ6eB0GMA9qYZ2oyayOB P92HMY3pYSwQs9whdJkMLzwwCIYw/Jx6n5lqHEilIRTmtYNcFeg2QE4D7goL2IiQ B6ruMxnFrTUsOdPZefea+dSn1fqH1lJ8Lm6lX/G1gMq3mYaWLy2XFDOEkYqnRypZ oDxrIZ4OnpcH0lEVPyghoA7ChzkgvxTUvYKvQv57wp1CDzgpyn2B7FDjEnpPr+ZF 4e/ydXeycbJ3Pvf0z6gm4zFYT2RlB+fdq6wtXO4ILi0b0T4AaDCfo6+RXjuxv0oN QyqD3M3FflKPAVsko2G9WriYx8W3rnRVJpEaq3tvwVMw1uo8aRfWhAx5/nx6CV8= =FHh0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 10:17:59 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8FB2E092F for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x32b.google.com (mail-wm1-x32b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GbJk0jmsz3DVs for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id x4so1667112wmj.1 for ; Tue, 05 May 2020 03:17:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=oY1fXaq1UrK0tNhe35U8egLfRwwuv5PN/45MJynpXy8=; b=JAPg8Oz1mum6w682bh42H1DfbPKjprgRbc6VAYEAlgpjNGw5mn+OvvAlZ29TefHxGl bvE/NCK3XHg1xZDjDooeA2sswGe5iHlNkkWTprvM46IqAACn/Houw1xaxKru8HK4LhuH GLLkEolgivTVyLB2bTHT0vmVPzYFQoGBeOFaKTyTTJjZV/MFl3n/XgYh7PoyUDQc9KnX 64Jf+TrAWwVCSp9KSegX2WBZIf07IlV9rGPb5xYo4Sf+EusVZFUmWg7PMRSn7QddImG6 IxR5ki+BBVQB3g+ycG+n5t5EYUmcC3pLZzFFuIi8CHZVgNOYa0l4Oxmk1lzL777UD41f tW7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=oY1fXaq1UrK0tNhe35U8egLfRwwuv5PN/45MJynpXy8=; b=Vv/gwHW6xIznpD2cPRGJ5pnjd6IW0Myg9bfwg8cniTzenbke/Wnr97+2ZWLnWjprpX qbPYk4zK9UF90APE37sBZbcjPcfD8lsXL+LmR+Gn0ilvtErOep7kKqg7tdku7leVwj4f B8gaHACXpXxpepjfeIA2Epo1gLQc44lP0sMupvVY4UdYJQ2ZPUEtkHHSsXfmhYZSOew/ kTftVVRpmsB78S6q20c+UY4N/fetTxgxivrc7Z6rbejjbAamc9ywcgpB6OQ4tFsgyG+v uxR2gFybkq4Q0r/nFtIs+8/hdP7GNB8sVjREFvo/k10o77AzGkVjwtxcEn/X2g3pJOgx 3CHg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaDTz4MPbHLp+c6MYXMRYKpGBvsuJLRRfVn7/Dnn1nxuGyE5zSk F5vDooGCCTZedWNibe/AySAqfwJl//4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLqGl5437qPdKNvvmMe2TwGaeaq6snsfoxabdkxeAtRoun9lsJ30EHsm7aEUuX87kl3+Rehvg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:9cca:: with SMTP id f193mr2591242wme.71.1588673875737; Tue, 05 May 2020 03:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MacBook-Pro-van-Johan.local (85-147-130-226.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl. 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If I set up dns and dhcp can I set up a third ip that's ipv6 for the hell of it? > > Sent from Outlook Mobile > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Getting into networking is something you learn by doing it and doing it a lot. Beginner networking tasks are setting up a network between two or more machines all in the same network like 192.168.0.0/24. Then try to put them in there own network and use route to let them talk to eachother. like one machine in 192.168.0.0/24 and the second machine in 192.168.1.0/24 and so on. Then you can try to get things working using smaller network segments like 192.168.0.1/29 and a network of 192.168.0.8 /29 and so on and make sure they do not overlap and let them communicate, test with ping. The second question is somewhat unclear to me. Do you have multiple Nics in your machine? If so, you can use the second NIC for testing. The third question, ping is just a basic tool you can use to test basic network functionality. route is a tool to make sure that your network knows where to go if it needs to go to an address not in your own network. DNS is not so much networking, it just resolves names to IP addresses. DHCP you can use to give hosts an IP address instead of giving them a static one. You can give an NIC or any interface like a bridge or a epair an ipv6 address. Here is an nice article about networking https://issue.freebsdfoundation.org/publication/?m=33057&i=651491&p=19&ver=html5 Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 10:21:11 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CE02E0B72 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail-40134.protonmail.ch (mail-40134.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "SwissSign Server Gold CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GbNQ5T8Qz3DmL for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 10:21:03 +0000 To: Steve O'Hara-Smith From: Lorenzo Salvadore Cc: Nikita Stepanov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: Does swap increase freebsd performance? 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Please type a body with your question even if it is a > repeat of the subject. I might be wrong, but I think I read something about Nikita's mails not hav= ing a body for technical issues. If that's indeed the case Nikita, you might like to contact postmaster@free= bsd.org to try to solve the problem, in the hope that you actually can write a mess= age with a body at least to postmaster... If not you can try opening a bug report on https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ and making sure to put postmaster in the= CC list. 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Message-Id: <20200505112501.cd4d6226a1edd5b4290e2b11@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200505054729.00000035@seibercom.net> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200503185521.GB52059@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200504085053.9bcf8d9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <9992c5ca-fdac-7a62-b0e4-d33afaeb042d@panix.com> <20200505095657.b436931b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505054729.00000035@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GbT6629Tz3FNh X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 10:25:15 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 05:47:29 -0400 Jerry wrote: > In any case, this will only assist you with printing. All of the other > functions that are readily available on a Windows machine are usually > cloaked away from FreeBSD operators. Brother does supply some utilities > for Linux and Debian, but not FreeBSD. Right here you describe the crux of the problem - Windows does not support a million printers and scanners perfectly, manufacturers go to great lengths to support Windows, some lengths to support IOS and Android, lesser lengths to support Linux desktops and generally no effort whatsoever to support anything else. This is of course a perfectly valid commercial standpoint. The sad truth is that if you use something that the printer manufacturers are not willing to go to great lengths to support then you are best looking to more expensive equipment that supports documented standards and using it, or doing what I do to support a Brother inkjet and run a CUPS server under Linux (well actually a jail with a Linux userland) and CUPS clients on the FreeBSD boxes. Yes it is a pain - but suggesting that the FOSS community has put insufficient effort into achieving the impossible is not reasonable. If the market is too small to be worthwhile for the manufacturers to support and they are unwilling to release detailed documentation then nobody can do anything about it. The seamless environment for printing, scanning, faxing and email integration can be achieved but it is not effortless. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 10:33:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21C22E1378 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gbg05pQLz3G9f for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 10:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD4710645; Tue, 5 May 2020 11:33:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: g_vfs_done() ada2p1 error = 5 To: Christoph Kukulies , Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2ED6F7F2-0F70-49F0-AF9F-E6E4CE11B2C3@kukulies.org> <20200505105033.ff69a110.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <24144a81-1f6e-206b-73ab-85846ce6db50@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 11:33:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Gbg05pQLz3G9f X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.42)[ip: (-7.87), ipnet: 217.155.0.0/16(-3.94), asn: 13037(-0.24), country: GB(-0.07)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 10:33:50 -0000 On 05/05/2020 10:17, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > >> Am 05.05.2020 um 10:50 schrieb Polytropon : >> >> On Tue, 5 May 2020 10:42:56 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>> I have a GPT partitioned SSD here which was serving as a boot >>> volume of my previously installed >>> FreeBSD 8.0 and now, as I have 12.1 installed and booting from >>> that I have mounted this SD into >>> my running system. >>> >>> In my system log I’m seeing the following error message (and when >>> I try to mount that partition, I’m getting an >>> INPUT/OUTPUT error also): >>> >>> g_vfs_done():ada2p1[READ(offest=262144, length=8192)]error = 5 >>> >>> ada2 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 >>> [...] >>> >>> What does this error message mean? How do I get rid of it? >> >> Could it be that the SSD has reached the end of its lifetime? > > > Hope not. Was trusting that FreeBSD takes care of saving SSDs from degrading over time. It's good, but FreeBSD can't prevent wear and tear. SSDs have a finite lifetime and all an OS can do is not decrease it. >> I've seen similar messages on regular hard disks which were >> about to die... Can you check the SSD with smartctl and see >> if there is something suspicious? >> > > > The output of smartctl is overwhelming :) Happen to know what I should look for? The attributes section is often the place to start. You can see just that by giving the -A flag to smartctl. > smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE amd64] (local build) > Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family: Samsung based SSDs > Device Model: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB > Serial Number: S1D5NSAD978704E > LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 8a002c09c > Firmware Version: EXT0AB0Q > User Capacity: 120,034,123,776 bytes [120 GB] > Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical > Rotation Rate: Solid State Device > Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] > ATA Version is: ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4c > SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s) > Local Time is: Tue May 5 11:11:45 2020 CEST > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. > SMART support is: Enabled > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED > > General SMART Values: > Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity > was never started. > Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed > without error or no self-test has ever > been run. > Total time to complete Offline > data collection: ( 4200) seconds. > Offline data collection > capabilities: (0x53) SMART execute Offline immediate. > Auto Offline data collection on/off support. > Suspend Offline collection upon new > command. > No Offline surface scan supported. > Self-test supported. > No Conveyance Self-test supported. > Selective Self-test supported. > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering > power-saving mode. > Supports SMART auto save timer. > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. > General Purpose Logging supported. > Short self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > Extended self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 70) minutes. > SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported. > SCT Error Recovery Control supported. > SCT Feature Control supported. > SCT Data Table supported. > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1 > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 42753 > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 69 > 177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0013 099 099 000 Pre-fail Always - 2 > 179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0 > 182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0 > 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032 073 057 000 Old_age Always - 27 > 195 ECC_Error_Rate 0x001a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 199 CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 235 POR_Recovery_Count 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 51 > 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1078954976 Attributes 177, 179, 181, 182, 183 & 241 are interesting for SSDs. You've not used any of your spare blocks, and you've had ~1 billion writes. For comparison I've got a 840 PRO in one of my machines and that's showing a wear leveling count of 17 and ~4 billion writes. >From Samsung's documentation (found via an online forum) ID # 177 Wear Leveling Count This attribute represents the number of media program and erase operations (the number of times a block has been erased). This value is directly related to the lifetime of the SSD. The raw value of this attribute shows the total count of P/E Cycles. Each MLC NAND cell can be erased ~10,000 times before it stops reliably holding charge. Given your wear leveling count is 2 you should be a long way off end of life. > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > No Errors Logged > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] > > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS > 1 0 0 Not_testing > 2 0 0 Not_testing > 3 0 0 Not_testing > 4 0 0 Not_testing > 5 0 0 Not_testing > Selective self-test flags (0x0): > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. > -- Fat Earther: One who believes the world is round but has put on too much weight round the middle. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 11:05:02 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D1A2E1E6D for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 11:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49GcM035t3z3Hwc for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 11:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.foucry.net (mithril.foucry.net [127.0.0.1]) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F89718970; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:04:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 13:04:51 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200505110451.GA81209@mithril.foucry.net> Mail-Followup-To: Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200503185521.GB52059@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200504085053.9bcf8d9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <9992c5ca-fdac-7a62-b0e4-d33afaeb042d@panix.com> <20200505095657.b436931b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505054729.00000035@seibercom.net> <20200505112501.cd4d6226a1edd5b4290e2b11@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20200505112501.cd4d6226a1edd5b4290e2b11@sohara.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GcM035t3z3Hwc X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=foucry.net (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.59 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[foucry.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[mithril.localdomain]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[mithril.localdomain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-1.01)[ipnet: 80.67.160.0/19(-2.81), asn: 20766(-2.22), country: FR(-0.00)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20766, ipnet:80.67.160.0/19, country:FR]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 11:05:02 -0000 Le mardi 05 mai 2020 à 11:25:01 (+0100), Steve O'Hara-Smith à écrit: > On Tue, 5 May 2020 05:47:29 -0400 > Jerry wrote: > > > In any case, this will only assist you with printing. All of the other > > functions that are readily available on a Windows machine are usually > > cloaked away from FreeBSD operators. Brother does supply some utilities > > for Linux and Debian, but not FreeBSD. > > Right here you describe the crux of the problem - Windows does not > support a million printers and scanners perfectly, manufacturers go to great > lengths to support Windows, some lengths to support IOS and Android, lesser > lengths to support Linux desktops and generally no effort whatsoever to > support anything else. > > This is of course a perfectly valid commercial standpoint. > > The sad truth is that if you use something that the printer > manufacturers are not willing to go to great lengths to support then you > are best looking to more expensive equipment that supports documented > standards and using it, or doing what I do to support a Brother inkjet and > run a CUPS server under Linux (well actually a jail with a Linux userland) > and CUPS clients on the FreeBSD boxes. > > Yes it is a pain - but suggesting that the FOSS community has put > insufficient effort into achieving the impossible is not reasonable. If the > market is too small to be worthwhile for the manufacturers to support and > they are unwilling to release detailed documentation then nobody can do > anything about it. In fact the "Linux community" reproduice de same errors as the "windwos commutiy" does. We (the FreeBSD users) are, as you saird a very small part of unix user. And many, many people knows "Linux" but does not إave a single idea about "Unix". Worst, some knows "debian" and that all, they cannot use another distro so let imagine using another Unix like system (*BSD, Solaris, AІX, HP-UX or even OSX). That the same for manufæcturer, they are mainћtream, Microsoft's products first, then Apple's products, may be Linux product… and that all. > > The seamless environment for printing, scanning, faxing and email > integration can be achieved but it is not effortless. -- Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 13:01:47 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A19C2E5F91 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikitastepanov113@yandex.kz) Received: from forward105p.mail.yandex.net (forward105p.mail.yandex.net [77.88.28.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gfxk2kMNz3xyQ for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikitastepanov113@yandex.kz) Received: from mxback9j.mail.yandex.net (mxback9j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1619::112]) by forward105p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 0C8F24D406C2 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 16:01:18 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by mxback9j.mail.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id kUU9jvI4uN-1Hb0pnRm; Tue, 05 May 2020 16:01:17 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.kz; s=mail; t=1588683677; bh=yWDI9LqJ+YhHj9yW3QS8Xkw7DA2ThOpTzb//JRUvu84=; h=Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From; b=uSbnTIMbweI39qAOmp0Ga9L7E1HqosiNZwBW27dnNFBnX+FqmYSJyLyeuRixVuWZh IjBAILWW5yR9Kiv3aUz8pxkHi5ZCFPjP6wwWkcRDWJ9Jp02So7eFjNmyfAs/6OUMqS Wu0c9AsdnFJzShy7mjQSA1ajXIpbWr4CCegQ9EpY= Received: by sas1-ffdbcd5f1d77.qloud-c.yandex.net with HTTP; Tue, 05 May 2020 16:01:17 +0300 From: Nikita Stepanov Envelope-From: nikitastepanov113@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Which ufs Is faster: ufs1 or ufs2? 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I did a camcontrol rescann all and the CDROM got attached again. = Nonethless an error was screened: cd1 at sym0 bus 0 scbus7 target 4 lun 0 cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd1: Serial Number 8X32458B cd1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) cd1: 656MB (335925 2048 byte sectors) (probe0:sym0:0:4:7): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 e0 00 00 24 00=20 (probe0:sym0:0:4:7): CAM status: Auto-Sense Retrieval Failed (probe0:sym0:0:4:7): Error 5, Unretryable error Just for the record and if an SCSI/sym0 expert ca make head or tail of = it? =E2=80=94 Christoph= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 13:17:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF9E2E65E4 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GgHT0k5gz3yr6 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MAOeB-1jPbX0034d-00BtNA; Tue, 05 May 2020 15:17:05 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 15:17:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Nikita Stepanov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which ufs Is faster: ufs1 or ufs2? 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Today you will probably definitely go for UFS2. It's not really about some speed advantage, but about reliability. UFS2, if set up properly, can perform quite well even under heavy I/O load. The filesystem parameters that you can set using tunefs to reflect what will be important in usage: will it be many small files, will it be huge files, will it be for a hard disk or a SSD? Additional features such as soft updates and journaling, which can help in increasing filesystem performance, are available for UFS2, not for UFS1, if I remember correctly. See "man tunefs" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 13:20:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB3B2E6763 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GgMX605Vz400Z for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MyNoa-1jDLI22Uxg-00yjCi; Tue, 05 May 2020 15:20:38 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 15:20:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Probe0 sym0 Error 5 unretryable error Message-Id: <20200505152037.f6c19bce.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <83C5D2F5-6ABC-4BFD-90A8-F5DA0F02BD08@kukulies.org> References: <83C5D2F5-6ABC-4BFD-90A8-F5DA0F02BD08@kukulies.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:CVhrN14Emb52PkAVW42H6L0C8lgjp1zNiScMVrrJo+kU71ASD+X zSPHoOpWNw5jrt12KBzUCuXFiUjB6c3l9vEkAWcs/hjvVGSNP+eM+LJWyPX2PDju3tJOq+I Q7hUCFGCb0opIQ+cbJLx9iA7aWmF5qncrCXdP1JFOzlRSSJkufHOLf0H4l5IYiUmHULxi08 TmAHuiioLYi/5kFSGU7Fw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:xqAhddURdeY=:a1jAtyz/ldIbZuQJOe8Tt/ YC2OLlq08nqzBXh204sBok2egzH+D3f7go+2zy3A5ZI9N6o5/x32PFZqzhXzbSroQjsAL/47+ 5tZY7wGfsX8jK1YAiyFMDvVynh7lM95lL+mEztvejCa13nBqUukB4yc4GG/uz+dQFtV/1VqHP 7BU3icdZC+jLIRtDWxzF7XICDwiEBc/nXSm4utKVtPKtnOgMmSqN2TxSpDtED7fiAP7vk0XaC 9pvni7KAGHubssrOKQNKXbBO/xpYdGvkUzTfkmS14202yY6PNWDmk8vgpznLaiYMnTz+O1KHM ja1QLWCBhhfGccTKEVSOF8ImH76uANSe9AshMkTbEB/C0VCy3O3rsvXwkZmAQkbo4AEu2yTnq T7spgrMkVpFfnsMHArxCbHVGxp9Cy5bgmh2A4CkyVGyR1Mfcqo1wqx5o2EybcWlb7Mhd2/dWz Q+Y00w2buv0nq8j697ZZ41oYPljeL7lYHUKwzfUdBxLxQySZ+dK4Z3bYmSJOqrerkepyNF7JA Yv0bbu0ZpG7o1BGy2UWIuMZ7jOjR7pxVfl3bNZJndHl8xkJANhzPbbb07r3UgvjPwcCcDsLS3 s/irAK07/33fmBWP5ordq5cTeLprYFWOvf8j5eR752o63GXgFmBFwaykjxVkCm4X5uQN4N+81 S8BQdCMC3Ocnod5vAiAeEVbdeK/UNN5BMwrQnh2sJFRGcILOvzUZ/tSDQ3Fj0JtNjvCmvXaF5 z1xrIFgVg7qfJuo6O3NwJkAiUsMuhknAVBsGN6oEPgEdxwNxp+Ef38i78f+NnTCULY5eAw93l siZX8reOHQxcc6zCdy/YBiGDZnCzx+Rizu5FVvWqznv6vdZjHbSOluy3JOPVoWykqC+tVlA X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GgMX605Vz400Z X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.87 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[16.9.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.24)[0.236,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.976,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.25)[ip: (0.46), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.04), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 13:20:42 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 15:10:17 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > After powering down devices that were attached to the SCSI-bus (sym0), > an SCSI CDROM got detached. > > I did a camcontrol rescann all and the CDROM got attached again. > Nonethless an error was screened: > > cd1 at sym0 bus 0 scbus7 target 4 lun 0 > cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > cd1: Serial Number 8X32458B > cd1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) > cd1: 656MB (335925 2048 byte sectors) > (probe0:sym0:0:4:7): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 e0 00 00 24 00 > (probe0:sym0:0:4:7): CAM status: Auto-Sense Retrieval Failed > (probe0:sym0:0:4:7): Error 5, Unretryable error > > Just for the record and if an SCSI/sym0 expert ca make head or tail of it? Maybe you can use # camcontrol reset all to make sure the controller can mark this bus as "not in use with any device"? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g12sm1651877qtu.69.2020.05.05.06.36.32 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 05 May 2020 06:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49Ggjq47nzz1ZmZ for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 09:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 09:36:24 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux Message-ID: <20200505093624.00001df2@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/A+Ob1zhOnGtgAx9u=EZI+VB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Ggjt4BBKz41Bq X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=iPiI02Xn; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::843 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.76 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.16)[ip: (0.02), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; URIBL_PBL(0.01)[thewindowsclub.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 13:36:36 -0000 --Sig_/A+Ob1zhOnGtgAx9u=EZI+VB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 5 May 2020 14:52:01 +0200, Maciej Suszko commented: >Hi, > >I'm wondering if anyone tried to use Microsoft Temas either web version >or desktop app... Web version does work but making audio/video call >isn't officialy suppported, so you need to spoof user-agent to make it >partially working - but from time to time MS change something and it >just stop working. In the past weeks I was able to make audio calls, >now it's not possible (neither Firefox nor Chrome) > >I tested my webcam and mic on https://www.onlinemictest.com/ and it's >all working, so problematic is the web application from MS. > >Desktop application - here are two options, one for Linux, one for >Windows. I tried to run the Linux version using linuxulator, >brandelf-ing all the binaries but with no success... > >#v+ >tlhscd@arsenic:/tmp/teams/share/teams $ ./teams >Trace/BPT trap (core dumped) >#v- > >How do you think - are there any chances to make the desktop app >working in out FreeBSD desktops? I assume you are referring to "Microsoft Teams". Have you tried posting your question here: According to , Microsoft Teams is now available on desktop and mobile operating systems including Windows, Mac, Android, iOS and web platforms. According to this URL: https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-teams-linux/, MS Teams is available for Linux. Of course, that is a far cry from FreeBSD, so YMMV. Report back with your findings. 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Please type a body with your question even if it is a > repeat of the subject. OP was doing exactly the same on the OpenBSD mailing list and got banned there. Then he moved here. -- Ottavio Caruso From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 14:14:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5C42E7F96 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49GhY66rW9z43Qv for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [IPv6:2607:fb90:2af:9905:b4cf:c36d:843a:90c5] (unknown [172.58.139.215]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74A3A4E620 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 09:04:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Does swap increase freebsd performance? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3971481588671556@myt2-8316c2cade1b.qloud-c.yandex.net> <20200505105901.4306c0f7aa0aec652e2cc65a@sohara.org> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <4d75b216-1834-2888-714a-fd18c6cf5958@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 09:04:22 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GhY66rW9z43Qv X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [8.23 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[215.139.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[215.139.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ip: (0.37), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.18), asn: 160(0.15), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 14:14:03 -0000 On 5/5/20 8:36 AM, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 10:59, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >> On Tue, 05 May 2020 15:39:16 +0600 >> Nikita Stepanov wrote: >> >> We seem to be getting a rash of bodyless messages with the question >> in the subject. Please type a body with your question even if it is a >> repeat of the subject. > > OP was doing exactly the same on the OpenBSD mailing list and got > banned there. Then he moved here. > Receiving messages with empty body is annoying (such in my psychology). People answering these messages that continue being such even after one was pointed to it several times (several days ago was the first time) remove the incentive for OP to solve his issue. As it stands, kind people just add to others' annoyance. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 16:19:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DF813B7D5 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 16:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GlLL637Tz4BpV for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 16:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=M3Lxga94OhJTqFZW+GHCaJpRuCWWpBWbBwRaD00x2HI=; b=ic6oriQ4c8NqWrB3/gm40dYKvU wbyNG5/YK2TU/NB7h6QHRobifK95bry/tRa8aLOFDauVLi2uViPRL9cj8yCmTrPVso+Vd18SWrLlj sy/Ve9ZnfuO+IUCTNpBihqdZxaLQidyKSbIMWDnpxRF41PgZYb7eDYoNe4SM7oV8LpGo=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jW0IS-0009D9-4z; Tue, 05 May 2020 23:19:52 +0700 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 23:19:52 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GlLL637Tz4BpV X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=ic6oriQ4; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SH_EMAIL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[192.168.1.74]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.21)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.19), country: US(-0.05)]; SH_EMAIL_ZRD(0.00)[192.168.1.74] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 16:19:55 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor Sudakov wrote: >=20 > I'm trying to use a Brother HL-L2340D printer as a simple networked > line printer with lpd. I've successfully used HP and Canon printers like > that with a simple printcap like this: The story continues with some good news. Thanks to much insight and help from Polytropon (off list also), and this page: https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=3Dus&lang=3Den&prod=3Dhll2340= dw_us_eu_as&faqid=3Dfaq00100602_000 I've been able to print PDF files (lpr -P ps mozilla.pdf)=20 on this printer with the following printcap entry: ps|Brother HL-L2340D series PostScript:\ :sh:\ :lp=3D9100@192.168.1.74:\ :if=3D/usr/local/etc/ps2pcl.sh:\ :sd=3D/var/spool/output/lpd2:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: while the ps2pcl.sh looks like this (thanks again to Polytropon): #!/bin/sh #/usr/bin/printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER \ -sDEVICE=3Dhl1250 -sPAPERSIZE=3Da4 -r600x600 \ -sOutputFile=3D- - && exit 0 exit 2 So GhostScript's "hl1250" driver works wonders, I even see Cyrillic text in the printed PDF. Now two questions are left: 1. How the heck do I print text files with this setup? Should I convert them to PostScript first, and how? UTF-8 Cyrillic support is crucial. 2. How do I convince Mozilla Firefox that I now have a PostScript printer and it can print directly to it, not just to a PDF file? It does not seem to care for /etc/printcap. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJesZIoAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0BGAH/09AxDJjuw1yLniR7ksGKWow D9Zqlf1tl/AhQ/O7seqcXwhXFqVw+57MJRpp6s4Bww3J+6kgvWNEb/dsHbj+zZBg fgdf3maGsGpr4TB4SebDZKktyYbcF7ocyHwQEaBTioYEiHLLse0unz39LM0NFr8L anxYBMFYxsUG/9RB1ds4V/bJiE8s/9BGbwZk6CCOxtFMwfRml5tmRBgJQT4S/bGF fTm3nrXB11u9Z7rE6NZ6h8Z4GAjKNlwisXaYei036iAjRYVI2FVqj6s2ThOcx0XM /nopLzf8ATlda9LMXLPP0307IFlQ/1CgZ2VSu7MgxlNihFvCb7pcrv4dLFPM3N8= =J97t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 16:55:15 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB1213CB98 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 16:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gm761hkmz4F8n for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 16:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N64JK-1j3M2h208O-016T86; Tue, 05 May 2020 18:55:11 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 18:55:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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I've successfully used HP and Canon printers like > > that with a simple printcap like this: > > The story continues with some good news. > > Thanks to much insight and help from Polytropon (off list also), and > this page: > https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2340dw_us_eu_as&faqid=faq00100602_000 > > I've been able to print PDF files (lpr -P ps mozilla.pdf) > on this printer with the following printcap entry: > > ps|Brother HL-L2340D series PostScript:\ > :sh:\ > :lp=9100@192.168.1.74:\ > :if=/usr/local/etc/ps2pcl.sh:\ > :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd2:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: > > while the ps2pcl.sh looks like this (thanks again to Polytropon): > > #!/bin/sh > > #/usr/bin/printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 > /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER \ > -sDEVICE=hl1250 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600x600 \ > -sOutputFile=- - && exit 0 > exit 2 > > So GhostScript's "hl1250" driver works wonders, I even see Cyrillic > text in the printed PDF. Basically, gs will "raster" any PS input it gets. So whatever symbols are there, they will work without any further tools, be it chinese symbols or images or german Umlauts. :-) Thanks for posting the _solution_ to your problem. Future readers will now know that gs's filter "hl1250" works with this particular printer. > Now two questions are left: > > 1. How the heck do I print text files with this setup? Should I convert > them to PostScript first, and how? UTF-8 Cyrillic support is crucial. Yes, gs expects PS as its input. For programs that print (except here: Firefox), PS is the default output anyway. But if you have ASCII text, you need to turn it into PS. The easiest way to do this is the port "a2ps" (ASCII to PostScript). It has several options that you can tweak if the default output is not sufficiently formatted, like headers or margins. Personally, I use "encript" for turning ASCII reports into formatted pages. Here is an example: enscript -o ta_t4_${ACCT}.ps \ --media=A4 \ --margins=50:10:10:10 \ --font=Courier11 \ --header="Transactions for ${ACCT}"'||Page $% of $=' \ ta_t4_${ACCT}.txt Last entry is the input file, -o specifies the output file. You can use - for both or use | to "pass data". This kind of PS can then be easily printed. > 2. How do I convince Mozilla Firefox that I now have a PostScript > printer and it can print directly to it, not just to a PDF file? It does > not seem to care for /etc/printcap. Correct. Firefox doesn't care what you want. ;-) The default "print to file" of Firefox now uses PDF, as many modern printers accept PDF directly. But you can use the tool "pdftops" installed by the port "xpdf". Sidenote: You can even put this into an additional printer filter in /etc/printcap, for example with the printer name "pdf", and address that printer from Firefox's print dialog, to do this preprocessing. And the printer will keep working even if both Brother and "Windows" have stopped offering a driver for it... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Message-ID: <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Gnb33XtGz4KMm X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=bMxf3PRp; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; SH_EMAIL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[192.168.1.74]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.21)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.19), country: US(-0.05)]; SH_EMAIL_ZRD(0.00)[192.168.1.74] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 18:01:04 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > > >=20 > > > I'm trying to use a Brother HL-L2340D printer as a simple networked > > > line printer with lpd. I've successfully used HP and Canon printers l= ike > > > that with a simple printcap like this: > >=20 > > The story continues with some good news. > >=20 > > Thanks to much insight and help from Polytropon (off list also), and > > this page: > > https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=3Dus&lang=3Den&prod=3Dhll= 2340dw_us_eu_as&faqid=3Dfaq00100602_000 > >=20 > > I've been able to print PDF files (lpr -P ps mozilla.pdf)=20 > > on this printer with the following printcap entry: > >=20 > > ps|Brother HL-L2340D series PostScript:\ > > :sh:\ > > :lp=3D9100@192.168.1.74:\ > > :if=3D/usr/local/etc/ps2pcl.sh:\ > > :sd=3D/var/spool/output/lpd2:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: > >=20 > > while the ps2pcl.sh looks like this (thanks again to Polytropon): > >=20 > > #!/bin/sh > >=20 > > #/usr/bin/printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 > > /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER \ > > -sDEVICE=3Dhl1250 -sPAPERSIZE=3Da4 -r600x600 \ > > -sOutputFile=3D- - && exit 0 > > exit 2 > >=20 > > So GhostScript's "hl1250" driver works wonders, I even see Cyrillic > > text in the printed PDF. >=20 > Basically, gs will "raster" any PS input it gets. So whatever > symbols are there, they will work without any further tools, > be it chinese symbols or images or german Umlauts. :-) A PostScript translator (GhostScript or any other) can be expected to "raster" the PS input incorrectly if this input contains encodings it does not understand, or glyphs/fonts it is lacking. I've seen so many problems with Cyrillic in my life, believe me. I've seen PDFs with some Cyrillic glyphs replaced by garbage, and much more of such weird stuff than I wish to see. >=20 > Thanks for posting the _solution_ to your problem. Future > readers will now know that gs's filter "hl1250" works with > this particular printer. This is not a final solution. I'm currently hacking the Linux LPR "driver" for this printer (hll2340dlpr-3.2.0-1.i386.deb), and maybe (just maybe) I'll be able to figure out what Linux sends to it to enable ascii LPR printing. In this package, there is a promising small linux binary which Linux uses as an if=3D. I guess it has magic within. >=20 >=20 > > Now two questions are left: > >=20 > > 1. How the heck do I print text files with this setup? Should I convert > > them to PostScript first, and how? UTF-8 Cyrillic support is crucial. >=20 > Yes, gs expects PS as its input. For programs that print > (except here: Firefox), PS is the default output anyway. > But if you have ASCII text, you need to turn it into PS. >=20 > The easiest way to do this is the port "a2ps" (ASCII to a2ps from packages is broken: $ a2ps /etc/rc.conf a2ps: unknown medium `libpaper' >=20 > Personally, I use "encript" for turning ASCII reports enscript is good, but it has huge problems with Cyrillic, and is totally lacking multibyte support (UTF-8). >=20 > > 2. How do I convince Mozilla Firefox that I now have a PostScript > > printer and it can print directly to it, not just to a PDF file? It does > > not seem to care for /etc/printcap. >=20 > Correct. Firefox doesn't care what you want. ;-) >=20 > The default "print to file" of Firefox now uses PDF, as > many modern printers accept PDF directly. But you can use > the tool "pdftops" installed by the port "xpdf". No, it's not necessary, GhostScript eats PDFs just fine. >=20 > Sidenote: You can even put this into an additional printer > filter in /etc/printcap, for example with the printer name > "pdf",=20 > and address that printer from Firefox's print dialog, Oh! I wish I knew how to add something to Firefox's print dialog!=20 Do you? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJesandAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0zuEIAI0KY6XTzQiUgqAFVwbBnCKw vAFWt8BtF05jsfbwtdZTUbxw+yGHN6r76Y/qONcWJ7rfV7UjF190zJm9rbq9O+m3 ObjtpXIGCFz191snZE4ua8kXd46268r3WQvMtNb8sR6nM4oi6J41IjrCf4chBEXg 2oA6PKBxP4FkNbnkrcxu9Q7z2FqpUsuE8g5taCLh9BQxS63/FU8a5ubc4U8XYpki JDse+Ik3OkyR6hZii0Zablsb67b9Rwq94eAQ3mBZi3DR7lCsXY+4Argm5/gvsfZf WURLXfZEIFymyAKa2LxHrdEXWCxlGYStEIk/KcmF5nVWFulz3Qx+BnC6zUTEV7E= =rHbg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 18:21:40 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951CA2C0266 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gp2q0H12z4M5w for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-173-48-64-3.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.64.3]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49Gp2n6LSFzx2h for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200503185521.GB52059@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200504085053.9bcf8d9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <9992c5ca-fdac-7a62-b0e4-d33afaeb042d@panix.com> <20200505095657.b436931b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505054729.00000035@seibercom.net> <20200505112501.cd4d6226a1edd5b4290e2b11@sohara.org> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 14:21:35 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200505112501.cd4d6226a1edd5b4290e2b11@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Gp2q0H12z4M5w X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.84 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[89.1.84.166.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; IP_SCORE(-3.34)[ip: (-9.38), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-4.05), asn: 2033(-3.24), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 18:21:40 -0000 On 2020-05-05 06:25, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > ...or doing what I do to support a Brother inkjet and run a CUPS > server under Linux (well actually a jail with a Linux userland) and > CUPS clients on the FreeBSD boxes. There's a FreeBSD port for CUPS, so maybe you don't need to run part of Linux just for that. 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I screwed up my network connection with ifconfig but don't know what to do? Sent from Outlook Mobile From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 18:23:37 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA282C05E9 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gp541QMQz4MSd for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N2VCb-1j95oo0EVr-013vkp; Tue, 05 May 2020 20:23:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 20:23:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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I've successfully used HP and Canon printers like > > > > that with a simple printcap like this: > > > > > > The story continues with some good news. > > > > > > Thanks to much insight and help from Polytropon (off list also), and > > > this page: > > > https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hll2340dw_us_eu_as&faqid=faq00100602_000 > > > > > > I've been able to print PDF files (lpr -P ps mozilla.pdf) > > > on this printer with the following printcap entry: > > > > > > ps|Brother HL-L2340D series PostScript:\ > > > :sh:\ > > > :lp=9100@192.168.1.74:\ > > > :if=/usr/local/etc/ps2pcl.sh:\ > > > :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd2:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: > > > > > > while the ps2pcl.sh looks like this (thanks again to Polytropon): > > > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > > > #/usr/bin/printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 > > > /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER \ > > > -sDEVICE=hl1250 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600x600 \ > > > -sOutputFile=- - && exit 0 > > > exit 2 > > > > > > So GhostScript's "hl1250" driver works wonders, I even see Cyrillic > > > text in the printed PDF. > > > > Basically, gs will "raster" any PS input it gets. So whatever > > symbols are there, they will work without any further tools, > > be it chinese symbols or images or german Umlauts. :-) > > A PostScript translator (GhostScript or any other) can be expected to > "raster" the PS input incorrectly if this input contains encodings it does > not understand, or glyphs/fonts it is lacking. Yes, especially if the construction of the PS (or the PDF it is generated from) is incomplete. But if the input is already rastered - no problem. :-) > I've seen so many problems with Cyrillic in my life, believe me. I've > seen PDFs with some Cyrillic glyphs replaced by garbage, and much more > of such weird stuff than I wish to see. I think that's also a result of UTF-8 vs. CP-866 vs. KOI-8 single / multi-byte mapping... yes, the german language is still suffering from the same problem. > > Thanks for posting the _solution_ to your problem. Future > > readers will now know that gs's filter "hl1250" works with > > this particular printer. > > This is not a final solution. I'm currently hacking the Linux LPR > "driver" for this printer (hll2340dlpr-3.2.0-1.i386.deb), and maybe > (just maybe) I'll be able to figure out what Linux sends to it to enable > ascii LPR printing. > > In this package, there is a promising small linux binary which Linux > uses as an if=. I guess it has magic within. > > > > > > > > Now two questions are left: > > > > > > 1. How the heck do I print text files with this setup? Should I convert > > > them to PostScript first, and how? UTF-8 Cyrillic support is crucial. > > > > Yes, gs expects PS as its input. For programs that print > > (except here: Firefox), PS is the default output anyway. > > But if you have ASCII text, you need to turn it into PS. > > > > The easiest way to do this is the port "a2ps" (ASCII to > > a2ps from packages is broken: > > $ a2ps /etc/rc.conf > a2ps: unknown medium `libpaper' Install "libpaper" package and manually set a symlink in /usr/local/etc: papersize -> papersize.a4 for standard ISO A4 paper, or papersize -> papersize.letter for US letter. Also note that a2ps outputs to stdout, so you'll probably want redirection: % a2ps /etc/rc.conf > rc.conf.ps Note that you'll probably have to "man a2ps" to deviate from the standard options, because those generate "2 pages on 1 with header" layout. > > Personally, I use "encript" for turning ASCII reports > > enscript is good, but it has huge problems with Cyrillic, and is totally > lacking multibyte support (UTF-8). Correct. That's why I had to use it with ISO-8859-1 standard western europe character set (single byte per symbol) in order to get Umlauts displayed correctly. Maybe another processing step ("recode utf-8..koi8 ") can be used in the printer filter. > > > 2. How do I convince Mozilla Firefox that I now have a PostScript > > > printer and it can print directly to it, not just to a PDF file? It does > > > not seem to care for /etc/printcap. > > > > Correct. Firefox doesn't care what you want. ;-) > > > > The default "print to file" of Firefox now uses PDF, as > > many modern printers accept PDF directly. But you can use > > the tool "pdftops" installed by the port "xpdf". > > No, it's not necessary, GhostScript eats PDFs just fine. Cool, I didn't know that. > > and address that printer from Firefox's print dialog, > > Oh! I wish I knew how to add something to Firefox's print dialog! > Do you? If you define several printers in /etc/printcap (and not forget to run cap_mkdb), a system running lpr should have the available printers listed in Firefox's print dialog. Unless, of course, Firefox is hard-wired with CUPS, and no CUPS - no printer selection. Another idea might be to use the variable $PRINTER to name the printer before starting Firefox. This variable will also be used by the lp* tools if no -P is specified. I often use this as my default printer never is named "lp". :-) % lpq Laserjet is ready no entries Currently I don't have access to a system that has both Firefox and lpr installed so I cannot verify this suggestion. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 18:29:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699E32C0A51 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GpDK3kh8z4MkC for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MLQl3-1jnyyy2EXT-00IQSO; Tue, 05 May 2020 20:29:51 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 20:29:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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Keep in mind the tools mentioned so far are from a pre-UTF-8 era, so I'm not sure if they will work as intended... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 18:32:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5564C2C0E34 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GpHF1D3Kz4NCT for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N5G5b-1j6MfB2B3F-011BlS; Tue, 05 May 2020 20:32:20 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 20:32:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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Many years ago, I got a Canon (yes, I know) laser printer to work. On "Windows", it was not possible - no driver anymore. On FreeBSD, I installed the Linux ABI and the "CCP" program provided for Linux, "plumbed" that into the strange construct of files and sockets into CUPS, and the printer worked again. I did use the native FreeBSD CUPS version, only the "CCP" program required Linux compatibility. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 18:35:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03B52C11AA for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GpLC4GvPz4NRT for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MA7Su-1jPxsJ03H0-00Bf0j; Tue, 05 May 2020 20:34:57 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 20:34:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Brandon helsley Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Message-Id: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:vCPgqp0/eJyUxzkseaAUwTCtlqvjODzxvgtSWRveduBd1YgHT06 yDvk+EquHCASjb+KXerQ2Li2zV1Lzo6wtu9stLjGywEQVIBOd4nifiiSzGqeFC5vS3FYzBH TSauzMR4RJmkaHP4LdThciKaCgf0bKT224v93oyhxPmf2S6UA39eAmPIwZSRLQ9hvCFoAlR SN7yJ9crysTn5VzS2biMQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1Kqad92SPU8=:PzOy5LnhyQTX//CKTknLv9 Q7kppp7JbP5XRAjXJpw0BUG8qtnUPDySR/Bib4qa1jpuU3irWkrfMnnDMs+wHx46eWpjdXx9H B3v7e7uq5MtShg1gqOv+EeEqut7odHRdHRNDzUjcf7UCgKF1UnhqODcUmYnA3gLyivp4L6BJ+ Ie01xbrVv9cNSBEaXa3PiuMmJLfmlv3MSwLOQT5e6RQx6sFWpD/cywx9UajCcfFgUgxTS9xg0 c69hG3l0DHr6OzWDpnvnhN611xcPGkpDZg1B10bEd5dZjm6jX/BIxBalKDl0UFCumsEu3m6Nw Mf0mH1O4PjcVZqPQCa73X4aNii04dtX8iBtMjaE/Fb3r1tnXWR7gWti4rfN2mNju5f+bS+ZOh yqz3qWshbccXOwAzB25rH2ZrcQZdJwKcuj7Id02+Neas///eeGm7tt2xyJNWh01bMN/YIQMPu RO31gFvKOwngQIwfk4OTvd7vyAm1aEeMZzDdqvb5XnQZ/pgJYPBPOJL6w9xaduJPqOCE1dTn4 8A2z18xDcqTinhR7iA+zfYrOWhFGgOv95HKybVqqFlq9en49lPCsoFVaHDDsrV87x6MD27sZw tIauC4Y99iQ0pjgk/krN9KQRFxz7eXmpuCKt8V78BiKNigpdObWJ2t7VhMDJ6u/63I6Yee6pt GYYzIOMXycF935dWtSYDbAgXqT1Ysb/IDG6AszKWMijTqrpkNhoVOikzffq4VVL+Lbx7Kg2/Y m6Z108ZhM//+O8Re6GUVxTBdm2czGm4k/L6xh847tct96p/UJTieNsksx9n5J1Rqt/g0ledUU X863yOdxV0yDlx6GgJj/qAIJeQMO3ClWzb/zcvNwA1CsXjkGuOAzCHR+T0MT+Ta2M+NM5WSaC jR1cJ+n495bpCrkllxEA== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GpLC4GvPz4NRT X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.10) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.53 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[16.9.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.19)[0.188,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.89)[0.886,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.06)[ip: (-0.52), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.04), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 18:35:00 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 18:21:42 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > Can I reenter the installer and configure the network automatically > again and exit without doing an entire reinstall? Yes, you can install the installer by entering the command # bsdinstall at the console. > I screwed up my network connection with ifconfig but don't know > what to do? You can use the ifconfig tool to change your network settings and make them permanent by editing /etc/rc.conf accordingly. The installer will just append changed settings to that file. PS. It's helpful to write a short summary of the question or problem in the subject line; users' MUAs might automatically delete a message with no subject (similar to a message without a body)... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Message-ID: <20200505144232.00000f66@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20200505203220.246ce28c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200503192444.2d700440.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200503185521.GB52059@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200504085053.9bcf8d9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <9992c5ca-fdac-7a62-b0e4-d33afaeb042d@panix.com> <20200505095657.b436931b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505054729.00000035@seibercom.net> <20200505112501.cd4d6226a1edd5b4290e2b11@sohara.org> <20200505203220.246ce28c.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GpW134R2z4NsN X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=A0Qu61I+; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.48 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; IP_SCORE(-2.02)[ip: (-9.31), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 18:42:39 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 20:32:20 +0200, Polytropon commented: >Many years ago, I got a Canon (yes, I know) laser printer >to work. On "Windows", it was not possible - no driver anymore. >On FreeBSD, I installed the Linux ABI and the "CCP" program >provided for Linux, "plumbed" that into the strange construct >of files and sockets into CUPS, and the printer worked again. >I did use the native FreeBSD CUPS version, only the "CCP" >program required Linux compatibility. I would love to know what printer that was. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 18:48:45 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B952C1817 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic311-31.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic311-31.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gpf31KyVz4PDq for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: AeqXHi8VM1ng0BxHx9vaiNrX20H8mFSq4cCVRfWXuwBiTCjhnQXWr5WDNFTORpd zL5FLVXZFE3e6kWVXkLatAiIQKlYFf.jCPEh_JZoSmQ7YSjH2XNk_QcnmgPf21Zco.vvrwNlyHZL YQv4fiHe9ZjBvUpKHj.noGV3DQBzZXxjyVq7u4oMlNIWB.S7qhGI2JWvVqi2RqlBQpRtA930n_5q qpR_UjThZVnOOU.dqMSyeLBo6gk12XT_Am9hqHy42DoLX630G6SLR0xy5uQIi7cj8UpbG1O4YEVT uDV.cTbijh8V4BvXpsugpNvIYJPCwDlH02fDwNRmLbI7o0LHqMLcLLJmv1TrS3QI2dVaJgIarHID 4yJUNUe2UBmLqKVFNhkFnXNNuJDRdbCz_i4lRRCB8VUdR3LSki7ba2VWuZ9G3X1v27ZKUGUW1CUV W7kW9Gf8WvPEKP4NGq6qRMJ4ri76b.nhW9dYA9pZLK1E1.ve04g3lnZbIdfAvNZFHLc9082_117n 4oJWcDaimLgDseHC24fluh07gDyFWjLmnMFynuoZnsFvxZSGMIGaGPa3ANXuj932jaJoMSHsj9Kd 6nCdVOr1mVQX10Kx8D6bguFejAiNL5wPqAuCJmgpplau7ahG0Lz1klJl5oIaKl6Mq46Er3u7oRt4 .Fkcpd3eA4g3KxSg24YYWzo4aN08bFvyTeqwlZmUDTtoV.UCKH8rDTyzzlkekAfy_3FWGnHPotv4 fJ46HSaeANRpH7L5HRn9v6FhJDCOV7Wi0eeC0m8aZ3XIUsLNofRBZpdzcV2TiRbnZkP1AmxHaYVH kGe0J6f_hW.1hgI9EMgngvUP1Kz1NefHurqYxiiV8TXN2T8LMHu2zzEr8DUujEgA9K_p8xsNmkqF 1xqPWS9c8pfQNwmpkhvIaab3qR7Y9d4eulSOegKbIWMH3B6GhC.R2zsdqrgJiKpN87iqEkNdA_T4 9srdtephGWhyR_f3NMt86cluuTXR6F2R6T5Aihea32X2NUBs0XoVDrgREMR8IdZLYu83OjFfYetl FferesNImTio_3lOvdG3dt2PpSwQPefazO.TjsDCc83hQGpIh.v7KsJPQaRwoHUb4cYDQtsBByQn zchU2PEcZpM8L2g3VLn1dPjBqMX._gaFK4lDuGgY.gfIypZhvNkLmBDIDyzUUBiyu8UJmDA75eb9 D5OzT0BXuCzNCd3l8ib8WePx_Yn48RvumPWuspvHWOYD0mp_mnTl0raK.1iLTpJjJ7byV.sYdxvM oaaQBnGrwav.Jl514cOpW_PoW0oGjwZOZVoYvU9E2c5yUWbAw_rZX66DPJ2tmcMx35q0_MdWTDOp EMThaXlREslOwPn4Y6NsKd.fpHfj_6.eqCt7Ybk7LlO9_61Jb1S7WdwJEDT945gCawsEi1vRnrcr Utzo- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:48:40 +0000 Received: by smtp417.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 32ea6aa9a92a771702a26298cd8d75f2; Tue, 05 May 2020 18:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 20:48:38 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which version of freebsd Is faster: amd64 or i386? Message-ID: <20200505204838.5b92ee09@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <4323681588671834@sas1-55829ddbd171.qloud-c.yandex.net> References: <4323681588671834@sas1-55829ddbd171.qloud-c.yandex.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Gpf31KyVz4PDq X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.55 / 15.00]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.60), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.11), asn: 34010(1.67), country: GB(-0.07)]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.55)[0.551,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.48)[0.484,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[163.176.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[163.176.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 18:48:45 -0000 All those generalized question related to performance and speed are moot. Better questions are probably, why is hardware migrating from 32bit to 64bit architecture? What is the purpose of swap? Why are there new versions of file systems? A nice example, for faster is not always better: "noatime Do not update the file access time when reading from a file. This option is useful on file systems where there are large numbers of files and performance is more criti-cal than updating the file access time (which is rarely ever important). This option is currently only supported on local file systems." - https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?mount(8) "relatime Update inode access times relative to modify or change time. Access time is only updated if the previous access time was earlier than the current modify or change time. (Similar to noatime, but it doesn't break mutt or other applications that need to know if a file has been read since the last time it was modified.)" - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man8/mount.8.html Are such mount options still useful when using SSDs instead of spinning drives? It unlikely makes a noticeable difference when file access time gets always updated, nor would it seriously shorten lifetime of a SSD. OTOH after migrating from HDD to SSD, why editing fstab, if those options worked well for the old HDDs, while they don't have a negative impact on SSDs? You could overclock the CPU, play around with PCI latency and other critical things, to get a faster but unstable machine. You could use a text-based web browser instead of a GUI web browser, to waste less resources of a computer but to suffer from the limitations of a text-based web browser. Experts could speed up a machine by tweaking a few things, but even for experts the golden rule is "less is more" and it usually requires a lot of trial and error. Staying with less optimal defaults could save time. Ok, you want to learn, so you are asking a few questions. But IMO your questions are way too abstract. What is your domain? On one of my Linux DAWs unbinding USB ports that shared an IRQ with something important did improve performance, on the machine I'm using now it's impossible to do it, but even shared IRQs don't have a negative impact on that new machine. A shorter and quicker path could improve performance a lot, but maybe at the cost of being more vulnerable to Meltdown and Spectre. Performance is always related to the hardware and the domain. A video entertainment machine, a server ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 18:49:14 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE57D2C18F7 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gpfb6H2Gz4PMd for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-173-48-64-3.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.64.3]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49GpfZ3RbTzynC for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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I've > seen PDFs with some Cyrillic glyphs replaced by garbage, and much more > of such weird stuff than I wish to see. It would be nice if you could send plain Unicode to a printer. Ideally, I guess, either compressed or not -- UTF-8, UTF-16, or UTF-32. I don't expect it to happen. 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FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 18:53:22 -0000 Do I need to go through the whole installer. Once I submit it will make the= changes without wiping my disc? Sent from Outlook Mobile ________________________________ From: Polytropon Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:34:56 PM To: Brandon helsley Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On Tue, 5 May 2020 18:21:42 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > Can I reenter the installer and configure the network automatically > again and exit without doing an entire reinstall? Yes, you can install the installer by entering the command # bsdinstall at the console. > I screwed up my network connection with ifconfig but don't know > what to do? You can use the ifconfig tool to change your network settings and make them permanent by editing /etc/rc.conf accordingly. The installer will just append changed settings to that file. PS. It's helpful to write a short summary of the question or problem in the subject line; users' MUAs might automatically delete a message with no subject (similar to a message without a body)... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 19:18:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40DD2C282B for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 19:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GqJq4Pq5z4R3g for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 19:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.9.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MQdpG-1jkwoB0RnC-00NiNN; Tue, 05 May 2020 21:18:49 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 21:18:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Brandon helsley Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsd install Message-Id: <20200505211848.b6d81e98.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fAD5Es+jvnL0voCrPC21Ms0rTGu8zO1gZALoH/axoeKU/9eA0oW hvBiPOTrjExv6fc7hhazPPlL7TVyi2QSuTtZS+qi9Oz0/aP91Y7JN6hzimb+n5l0vRDWErk d6yj8s/newNYT72uOlOb6TwiLKhxEVUIJw+tjJrAXQ6B/BgpZhVqbLd2KScSjl/aUb8YCc2 cofbpMVnhyPNSku/AQ8eg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:gmS+wbu+O18=:RRQBDdLHiGmZXkf3dldLI1 qpqcQSjToN94MADXtg1eEqew62Mrt2Kf4RatYnXdkp9cwHZMYvPyrWp31IT/hS+rY8uNDuWI5 6NuCiAzCxTVZCUHIt0dQVjtR/6vWQp6QUMj+pAVk0qNgM2XXsAMpCkzDoc3hEl5MhbNuWsmNV Cm/k8kqDK9iNC+y3kDbKNq2plPHB5wZ6vpSRJMnGncvGM9jFfmeRvl9sFZdm4kJEHsC25Zlw3 INHXK32mnriRk8qFijyo9potTcKb8d70R+zT5Coq4MW6gsiUlFj+f9xMM3e7RT9QnCTMZ1UW3 15PxISxBo0zPyyE/xrRyghilgb82Uct1Xwyl9KpaMPL9NFN3oWbXyPFXHdpt9C4nwpBnylh9G dtiUpns3lKZlYNwPtdNLvTlXt2OjtApHFaZPVqj0sYmvbf3qz8aZ8F1Td0E5LMFPKLTv8E16E gIyeRl0meMXV/lSpdjzwmIksELJl9Yigzo2VYmeJl2T59Iebw2ewoZJuSzh+hufEQHoZ+9RWR U2fvpH/Mj/gn1oTiUEgsOEOx2Wva7xCrzgbvsf6iMPX3BWkFcmSw0602iwRvbm4WHI8xhk0sw w0QmigAjwSO4VCJD4oIm8aYXVLwikLJH0pywhB1dpd27XIYgJaHOkveyVV+SvcJRzunZEgI9O rIjeewcCFZrKppAk6IlufttBwKJyF2dCrvmJBQxjMbJ/YuiX7+nvoA0WokR/6xYAxX06nWdh2 RKz7NR6JSpLd+iEStpDQBl67iuKdMn/+Qwm6kms8rsfC6Ai1UW6bnsaILtZqQM4r66cnUdsZI PJGdpq8Bl8E/fvalLKGjfYsUkCUg0GJDYCAbshB3y2VU4eBeIKsuWlZZdiFq3dIoYRCRBrzvP m1eYdX8cAwOhmUETpoWA== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GqJq4Pq5z4R3g X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.64 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[16.9.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_NEUTRAL(0.00)[131.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.13]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.85)[0.854,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.995,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.39)[ip: (1.12), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.03), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 19:18:52 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 18:53:18 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > Do I need to go through the whole installer. Once I submit it will > make the changes without wiping my disc? The easiest way, if you just wish to change network settings, is to explicitely jump to that selection: # bsdinstall netconfig This will bring up the "Configuring Network Interfaces" menu. See "man bsdinstall" for details. Further information here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-network.html Please note that I have never personally used bsdinstall for that specific task, so I don't know for sure if what you will see does match the description in the handbook, but common sense suggests that the installed system will not be wiped. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <2c213d5f-8c18-812e-8770-dd5312b1edf7@panix.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <16b5d2ce-0ed2-80e3-e0ea-2f324ddfcac5@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 14:26:02 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2c213d5f-8c18-812e-8770-dd5312b1edf7@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GqT81vfZz4RX0 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [8.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[164.142.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[164.142.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ip: (0.42), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.21), asn: 160(0.17), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 19:26:05 -0000 On 5/5/20 1:49 PM, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2020-05-05 14:01, Victor Sudakov wrote: > >> A PostScript translator (GhostScript or any other) can be expected to >> "raster" the PS input incorrectly if this input contains encodings it >> does >> not understand, or glyphs/fonts it is lacking. >> >> I've seen so many problems with Cyrillic in my life, believe me. I've >> seen PDFs with some Cyrillic glyphs replaced by garbage, and much more >> of such weird stuff than I wish to see. Which in case of PDF documents can easily be avoided on document creator side by requesting that all fonts used are embedded into document produced. But hey, go train those who create these PDFs... Valeri > > > It would be nice if you could send plain Unicode to a printer. Ideally, > I guess, either compressed or not -- UTF-8, UTF-16, or UTF-32. I don't > expect it to happen. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 19:29:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFC02C2FD5 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 19:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004c7b585.b28cc32faf1aac661c1cd0df2fcacd7c@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GqXg2vDKz4RgY for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 19:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004c7b585.b28cc32faf1aac661c1cd0df2fcacd7c@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588706947; x=1591298947; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=a9iOASFA7PCjb76hQgbJFZW8/R9wLPvsyDB6wCuZA/o=; b=BuOHsF7Fp29JizEtoBd8z3s06afo0leouQBjOQWyt9IK5+lLRAjktYrS3A9o0obp4mGJA618fL3ryeAw5oFKqFxLqjsFEGfqHpA8THoccFOn1p30AEtT8dM4qfgrgwUboDATwNy7thNIKRfsV0KJzmUB4o7eEXZvk6o/5EeGSjM= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDRjN2I1ODUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 5 May 2020 15:29:01 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 5 May 2020 15:29:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jW3FT-000F6z-IU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 20:28:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 20:28:59 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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I know and in theory (some people have apparently managed it) you can install the Brother drivers, including the critical Linux binary that takes a pnm from ghostscript and sends it to the printer, in the right places to make it work and all the config that tells CUPS how to use it. I spent a week or so trying to make it work before taking the path of least resistance and installing something the Brother installer could cope with. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 19:34:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D697F2C3557 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 19:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.helsley@hotmail.com) Received: from NAM11-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-dm6nam11olkn2023.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.19.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Gqfn685Fz4SG1 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 19:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.helsley@hotmail.com) ARC-Seal: i=1; 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IP_SCORE(0.00)[ipnet: 40.64.0.0/10(-3.73), asn: 8075(-3.23), country: US(-0.05)]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[23.19.92.40.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[23.19.92.40.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 19:34:26 -0000 When I do this I get no ip addresses for ipv4 in the resolver configuration Sent from Outlook Mobile ________________________________ From: Polytropon Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:18:48 PM To: Brandon helsley Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd install On Tue, 5 May 2020 18:53:18 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > Do I need to go through the whole installer. Once I submit it will > make the changes without wiping my disc? The easiest way, if you just wish to change network settings, is to explicitely jump to that selection: # bsdinstall netconfig This will bring up the "Configuring Network Interfaces" menu. See "man bsdinstall" for details. Further information here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-network.html Please note that I have never personally used bsdinstall for that specific task, so I don't know for sure if what you will see does match the description in the handbook, but common sense suggests that the installed system will not be wiped. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Message-ID: <20200505160947.00003b31@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <16b5d2ce-0ed2-80e3-e0ea-2f324ddfcac5@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <2c213d5f-8c18-812e-8770-dd5312b1edf7@panix.com> <16b5d2ce-0ed2-80e3-e0ea-2f324ddfcac5@kicp.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GrRp4lv8z4V3b X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=bv6YnoJB; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; IP_SCORE(-2.00)[ip: (-9.21), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 20:09:59 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 14:26:02 -0500, Valeri Galtsev commented: >Which in case of PDF documents can easily be avoided on document >creator side by requesting that all fonts used are embedded into >document produced. But hey, go train those who create these PDFs... Most modern printers use a compatible font if one is not encoded into the document. However, in the event of unique fonts or characters, it can potentially be a problem. I have used Adobe Acrobat DC, yes I know it is not available for FreeBSD, to convert documents into 'print versions". I use the "Convert to PDF/X-4 (Coated FOGRA39)" format. It converts the current document to PDF/X-4 for Coated FOGRA39 as the intended printing condition according to the PDF/X-4 standard. Transparency and layers are allowed. In most case; however, I find that totally unnecessary. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 20:59:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189B2C5D6B for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcy@druid.net) Received: from mail.vex.net (mail.vex.net [IPv6:2605:2600:1001::44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49GsXR2kHmz4Y30 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 20:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcy@druid.net) Received: from dilbert.druid.net (mobile-166-176-122-64.mycingular.net [166.176.122.64]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: darcy) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2FCA7A3CB for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 16:58:55 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: D'Arcy Cain Subject: Brother printer/scanner Autocrypt: addr=darcy@druid.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXno+ARYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAR2o17zm/M442SONWLjdQ/8Jpro8TbnUm/m1r4MHhygS0 HUQnQXJjeSBDYWluIDxkYXJjeUBkcnVpZC5uZXQ+iJYEExYIAD4WIQQZ0YBgv7psnnP4U/Hh AAd6d7lwwgUCXno+AQIbAwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDhAAd6 d7lwwvvTAQCfxQvyB5M06arZ2cL4LDj0wVxG9ay0PTR+qrQQ9DhevAD+I7W9XlbX6qL3gfDe A0wmuPKWrdSRWEcagXI1sGSC3Ay4OAReej4BEgorBgEEAZdVAQUBAQdAbPzu0iryH2ph9hjN L+Cu1Wo85QbDLV174RHCnjmD5WMDAQgHiH4EGBYIACYWIQQZ0YBgv7psnnP4U/HhAAd6d7lw wgUCXno+AQIbDAUJCWYBgAAKCRDhAAd6d7lwwhb/AQD/8Vd7zTK1s3g4bFCApa3W4zSqUa3/ 9trMr0wfaEOngAEA8iWgHnExoVEdLo9542+dJ8K0L7ntWdfIZLgCXK/2OQ8= Message-ID: <5eb8e117-6bf6-c0f5-3b40-0d86a066ec46@druid.net> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 15:58:54 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qmQ0ompXaCARuo14fxKbbVHTBFa7aIwIP" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GsXR2kHmz4Y30 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of darcy@druid.net has no SPF policy when checking 2605:2600:1001::44) smtp.mailfrom=darcy@druid.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[64.122.176.166.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[druid.net]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19842, ipnet:2605:2600::/32, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.14)[ip: (-6.18), ipnet: 2605:2600::/32(-3.09), asn: 19842(-1.37), country: CA(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 20:59:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --qmQ0ompXaCARuo14fxKbbVHTBFa7aIwIP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PSaQzXuhfqZz8YnuqqLOpjo4giu6PTWjp" --PSaQzXuhfqZz8YnuqqLOpjo4giu6PTWjp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With all of the discussion about Brother printers I thought I might throw this out there. I have a Brother MFC-L2700DW series printer/scanner. There does not seem to be a driver for cups for it so I am going to try some of the suggestions in the "Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd?" thread. I like lpd better than cups anyway. However, I don't see anything about scanning. I somehow managed to get scanning working on an Ubuntu system but never on FreeBSD or NetBSD. Can anyone suggest some way to make this device work with xsane or some other system? The printer is on the network. I can even access the internal web server from my FreeBSD box. Thanks for any help. --=20 D'Arcy J.M. Cain | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner. 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Once I submit it will > > make the changes without wiping my disc? > > The easiest way, if you just wish to change network settings, > is to explicitely jump to that selection: > > # bsdinstall netconfig > > This will bring up the "Configuring Network Interfaces" menu. > > See "man bsdinstall" for details. > > Further information here: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-network.html > > Please note that I have never personally used bsdinstall for > that specific task, so I don't know for sure if what you will > see does match the description in the handbook, but common > sense suggests that the installed system will not be wiped. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. 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Why am I not assigned ipv4 address? Sent from Outlook Mobile ________________________________ From: Aryeh Friedman Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:51:23 PM To: Brandon helsley Cc: Polytropon ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd install On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 3:34 PM Brandon helsley > wrote: When I do this I get no ip addresses for ipv4 in the resolver configuration DNS resolution is controlled by /etc/resolv.conf not /etc/rc.conf see man = page for it Sent from Outlook Mobile ________________________________ From: Polytropon > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:18:48 PM To: Brandon helsley > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: bsd install On Tue, 5 May 2020 18:53:18 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > Do I need to go through the whole installer. Once I submit it will > make the changes without wiping my disc? The easiest way, if you just wish to change network settings, is to explicitely jump to that selection: # bsdinstall netconfig This will bring up the "Configuring Network Interfaces" menu. See "man bsdinstall" for details. Further information here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-network.html Please note that I have never personally used bsdinstall for that specific task, so I don't know for sure if what you will see does match the description in the handbook, but common sense suggests that the installed system will not be wiped. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing= list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 5 23:01:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DB12D875D for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 23:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd32.google.com (mail-io1-xd32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49GwFh3qDLz4fXC for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 23:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd32.google.com with SMTP id z2so142611iol.11 for ; Tue, 05 May 2020 16:01:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SxjPBRuaaTfwRKwnyZ+9JqXLLhv18HsxqBZEYySNTD0=; b=rXYEOAXJ8ZVaveOzYvIFBeLJdfffwdPMBZ0WilX//N66+2Ztwp42MmhU+pGpQ0dLHC msFpPszOY5CtNKgpJMHvqrbtYGhpaQ4CXbujgEMZN6VnYdiNcFWMeenpziDubS/LIKuZ qXrPjuqrV03zSPsAHcjGzFf90GsJkSOpZvoluhOpPwkKZw2v6llKB9ar3gBtIaNGs1Nq lDzz95Yc9fmgFzywnOYHQ7QdpKnYO6qD4SEhC72urY9I6j3MahjifBGhvpt0nbd7ijMq FLBu5mIBW3pOD/o67+OJaj0IM9YgblBIT+JpYqKdn8v32SYg6i8kK3sBkmvWV4m3SXRn P5cQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SxjPBRuaaTfwRKwnyZ+9JqXLLhv18HsxqBZEYySNTD0=; b=roDX49V6ov9MgdTP33NBZwhYoIwiz1V1kIwTGuhMuZ13tv6Kvywy+rkGM4c3bTFiso V4U3rUUqX3d09cMrPH7/Cw85VWPbsFPAhbbHC3xnjDi4hFoAwyf7w8ZBk14hdtWM06es 8CfqndeSRSrta9bBo/DOAAqw3PgUUKETx+sjeNa2eV0wYgOXJkvhAGduTgD2c7QZATx7 rj+0Rp1OpOhYqTMxwQMT5sKYOqmsvTaFM+z0cG/KJjGCgyteG9QPbSIWLSqldaLp6S4n nNuuuEgLtDkfT3JL71jX/yheVCGr3Nt0X0wPg4IX6nXW/sVNBTxjKEn1re3cLY8ltUz7 43Ng== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubeY+lz9LAt5MfOo/r1j6298tLKnZGNEie/YcdbF5/0ZqRXPDJl HoulLbRj6h58m31TO6vGwmi6+VZcZPQvswl6ppo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKMuXlTkAS3N0lQsNbBva9J/Lj690Cn/bae30fmZXdyEnffSFN2ppPDH6az/4EBZBURBZemrQqXtHhONVgDhFc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:bc85:: with SMTP id m127mr5684300iof.89.1588719687275; Tue, 05 May 2020 16:01:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505211848.b6d81e98.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 19:01:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bsd install To: Brandon helsley Cc: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GwFh3qDLz4fXC X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=rXYEOAXJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[17]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.34), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 23:01:29 -0000 On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:55 PM Brandon helsley wrote: > I know right. Why am I not assigned ipv4 address? > Because manual configuration is just that manual. You need to point to the IP of a name server or set one up on the machine and point it to 127.0.0.1 ... as to the IP for your nic that is assigned in /etc/rc.conf by doing if_XXX=[network params] for example my main NIC on my desktop is configured with: ifconfig_re0="inet 192.168.11.40 netmask 255.255.255.0" Note the ip has to be on the same subnet as the next hop router... if you are multihomed (multiple ISP's for example) then you use routed to configure stuff beyond just the "default" router > > Sent from Outlook Mobile > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aryeh Friedman > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:51:23 PM > *To:* Brandon helsley > *Cc:* Polytropon ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > *Subject:* Re: bsd install > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 3:34 PM Brandon helsley < > brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > When I do this I get no ip addresses for ipv4 in the resolver configuration > > > DNS resolution is controlled by /etc/resolv.conf not /etc/rc.conf see man > page for it > > > Sent from Outlook Mobile > > ________________________________ > From: Polytropon > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:18:48 PM > To: Brandon helsley > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: bsd install > > On Tue, 5 May 2020 18:53:18 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > > Do I need to go through the whole installer. Once I submit it will > > make the changes without wiping my disc? > > The easiest way, if you just wish to change network settings, > is to explicitely jump to that selection: > > # bsdinstall netconfig > > This will bring up the "Configuring Network Interfaces" menu. > > See "man bsdinstall" for details. > > Further information here: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-network.html > > Please note that I have never personally used bsdinstall for > that specific task, so I don't know for sure if what you will > see does match the description in the handbook, but common > sense suggests that the installed system will not be wiped. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > -- Aryeh M. 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Under FOO is (directory) BAR. I want to delete - as in completely remove from both disk and the svn records - BAR (and subordinate content). Then I want to get a pristine copy of BAR (and subordinate content) from the repository. Is this the correct process: root> cd FOO root> svn rm BAR root> svn co BAR ? (And if not: what is?) 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Tue, 05 May 2020 16:26:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <24241.62739.445872.301644@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <24241.62739.445872.301644@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: Michael Schuster Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 01:26:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: using subversion To: Robert Huff Cc: questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49GwpW0Szsz3CLV X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=aiTFL2NX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of michaelsprivate@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=michaelsprivate@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; 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Regards Michael On Wed, May 6, 2020, 01:22 Robert Huff wrote: > > Scenario: > I have a directory, FOO, which is the root for an svn tree. > Under FOO is (directory) BAR. > I want to delete - as in completely remove from both disk and the > svn records - BAR (and subordinate content). > Then I want to get a pristine copy of BAR (and subordinate > content) from the repository. > Is this the correct process: > > root> cd FOO > root> svn rm BAR > root> svn co BAR > > ? 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Sent from Outlook Mobile ________________________________ From: Aryeh Friedman Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 5:01:15 PM To: Brandon helsley Cc: Polytropon ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd install On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:55 PM Brandon helsley > wrote: I know right. Why am I not assigned ipv4 address? Because manual configuration is just that manual. You need to point to th= e IP of a name server or set one up on the machine and point it to 127.0.0.= 1 ... as to the IP for your nic that is assigned in /etc/rc.conf by doing i= f_XXX=3D[network params] for example my main NIC on my desktop is configure= d with: ifconfig_re0=3D"inet 192.168.11.40 netmask 255.255.255.0" Note the ip has to be on the same subnet as the next hop router... if you a= re multihomed (multiple ISP's for example) then you use routed to configure= stuff beyond just the "default" router Sent from Outlook Mobile ________________________________ From: Aryeh Friedman > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:51:23 PM To: Brandon helsley > Cc: Polytropon >; freebsd-questio= ns@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: bsd install On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 3:34 PM Brandon helsley > wrote: When I do this I get no ip addresses for ipv4 in the resolver configuration DNS resolution is controlled by /etc/resolv.conf not /etc/rc.conf see man = page for it Sent from Outlook Mobile ________________________________ From: Polytropon > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:18:48 PM To: Brandon helsley > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: bsd install On Tue, 5 May 2020 18:53:18 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > Do I need to go through the whole installer. Once I submit it will > make the changes without wiping my disc? The easiest way, if you just wish to change network settings, is to explicitely jump to that selection: # bsdinstall netconfig This will bring up the "Configuring Network Interfaces" menu. See "man bsdinstall" for details. Further information here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-network.html Please note that I have never personally used bsdinstall for that specific task, so I don't know for sure if what you will see does match the description in the handbook, but common sense suggests that the installed system will not be wiped. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing= list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org -- Aryeh M. 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Message-ID: <20200506015935.GA56526@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505202242.c16f07feef5674fc7b6e6fe9@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200505202242.c16f07feef5674fc7b6e6fe9@sohara.org> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H0CK01M8z3L3D X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=F6q4NuJS; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.21)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.18), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 01:59:42 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >=20 > > a2ps from packages is broken: > >=20 > > $ a2ps /etc/rc.conf > > a2ps: unknown medium `libpaper' >=20 > I think you'll find installing the libpaper package will fix that - It's installed:=20 $ a2ps a2ps: unknown medium `libpaper' $ pkg info -o libpaper libpaper-1.1.24.4 print/libpaper > I use a2ps regularly. Does it handle UTF-8 (Cyrillic) text? 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Message-ID: <20200506022131.GB56526@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505202331.53374f21.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200505202331.53374f21.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H0hX52K9z3M0H X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=kDXkbW4t; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.21)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.19), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 02:21:33 -0000 --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: [dd] > > > > Now two questions are left: > > > >=20 > > > > 1. How the heck do I print text files with this setup? Should I con= vert > > > > them to PostScript first, and how? UTF-8 Cyrillic support is crucia= l. > > >=20 > > > Yes, gs expects PS as its input. For programs that print > > > (except here: Firefox), PS is the default output anyway. > > > But if you have ASCII text, you need to turn it into PS. > > >=20 > > > The easiest way to do this is the port "a2ps" (ASCII to > >=20 > > a2ps from packages is broken: > >=20 > > $ a2ps /etc/rc.conf > > a2ps: unknown medium `libpaper' >=20 > Install "libpaper" package and manually set a symlink in > /usr/local/etc: papersize -> papersize.a4 for standard ISO A4 > paper, or papersize -> papersize.letter for US letter. The package is installed and the files are present: $ pkg info -o libpaper libpaper-1.1.24.4 print/libpaper $ file /usr/local/etc/papersize.* /usr/local/etc/papersize.a4: ASCII text /usr/local/etc/papersize.letter: ASCII text This does not work. And I really think if a2ps does not have UTF-8/Cyrillic support, there is not much sense for me to try and fix it. [dd] > > > Personally, I use "encript" for turning ASCII reports > >=20 > > enscript is good, but it has huge problems with Cyrillic, and is totally > > lacking multibyte support (UTF-8). >=20 > Correct. That's why I had to use it with ISO-8859-1 standard > western europe character set (single byte per symbol) in order > to get Umlauts displayed correctly. Maybe another processing > step ("recode utf-8..koi8 ") can be used in the printer > filter. Too much info (too many glyphs) are lost this way. I'm already used to non-koi8-compatible characters in my texts, even when they are plain texts. > > > > 2. How do I convince Mozilla Firefox that I now have a PostScript > > > > printer and it can print directly to it, not just to a PDF file? It= does > > > > not seem to care for /etc/printcap. [dd] > >=20 > > Oh! I wish I knew how to add something to Firefox's print dialog!=20 > > Do you? >=20 > If you define several printers in /etc/printcap (and not > forget to run cap_mkdb), a system running lpr should have > the available printers listed in Firefox's print dialog. > Unless, of course, Firefox is hard-wired with CUPS, and > no CUPS - no printer selection. Looks like it's hardwired with GTK, and GTK is hardwired with something else, and nobody knows any more how it all works. >=20 > Another idea might be to use the variable $PRINTER to name > the printer before starting Firefox.=20 Does not help either.=20 I've also tried tinkering with print.printer_list in about:config to no avail. >=20 > Currently I don't have access to a system that has both > Firefox and lpr installed so I cannot verify this suggestion. 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FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 03:30:10 -0000 Can't get sound working even after doing everything in the handbook like ch= anging syctl unit to hdmi.any other solutions? 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For completeness' sake, let me add that you should not do "svn rm", just "svn revert - - depth=infinity FOO/BAR" should do the trick. HTH Michael On Wed, May 6, 2020, 02:16 Robert Huff wrote: > > Michael Schuster writes: > > > > Scenario: > > > I have a directory, FOO, which is the root for an svn > tree. > > > Under FOO is (directory) BAR. > > > I want to delete - as in completely remove from both > disk and the > > > svn records - BAR (and subordinate content). > > > Then I want to get a pristine copy of BAR (and > subordinate > > > content) from the repository. > > > Is this the correct process: > > > > > > root> cd FOO > > > root> svn rm BAR > > > root> svn co BAR > > > > > > ? (And if not: what is?) > > > > > I think "svn revert" is what you are looking for... > > Additional information: > There have been no deliberate changes in BAR; the contents of > the (sub-)tree seem to have been corrupted and I want to wipe things > out and start over from the same point as FOO. > Does that change the answer? > > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 05:48:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7691A2E0CDD for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 05:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004d39d60.5bc6dc5fb7975aa87fcbda0831478232@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H5HJ0XxRz45Ks for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 05:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004d39d60.5bc6dc5fb7975aa87fcbda0831478232@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588744108; x=1591336108; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=/H4ePX8FBmopjmweH47Ge9PX+DAyB/g/QX5Av8NxiZk=; b=PqAS9zIbjfCR1Z+ZEOGD5OcqOQ2hvsXQ+dVielUNrPNvtZ1RYq/cTDXB5Rd3ZEBjjmiyjT4HA3eg4kehKtxuuZkfhbbBRP76IDkhOEX7Jficp1/c80t1cy8999bBHtu8eBLFIRT3ZILJNTDOnNMENLU0n2uK2v0e96MoXyO7zD8= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDRkMzlkNjAuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 6 May 2020 01:48:19 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 6 May 2020 01:48:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWCum-000Hl5-MB; Wed, 06 May 2020 06:48:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 06:48:16 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Victor Sudakov Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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And I really think if a2ps does not have The symlink /usr/local/etc/papersize pointing to one or other of those is what's needed (or -M a4 on the command line). > UTF-8/Cyrillic support, there is not much sense for me to try and fix > it. 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If it does not, is there any sense > to prefer it over enscript? No, I don't think there are strong reasons to prefer either over the other. Given that problem it might be worth trying to see if this ports easily - it claims to be something like a2ps for unicode. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 06:51:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCE92E74AD for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 06:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 20.100@defert.com) Received: from 18.mo4.mail-out.ovh.net (18.mo4.mail-out.ovh.net [188.165.54.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H6gy5Llqz4BdD for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 06:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 20.100@defert.com) Received: from player799.ha.ovh.net (unknown [10.110.103.121]) by mo4.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7C923137C for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:51:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from defert.com (ip-83-99-83-196.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu [83.99.83.196]) (Authenticated sender: 20.100@defert.com) by player799.ha.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70D8F12140AC8 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 06:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Brother printer/scanner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Vincent DEFERT <20.100@defert.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 08:51:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: fr X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 6803813137993893892 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrjeejgddufeejucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfdpvefjgfevmfevgfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecuhedttdenucenucfjughrpefuvfhfhffkffgfgggjtgfgsehtjeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeggihhntggvnhhtucffgffhgfftvfcuoedvtddruddttdesuggvfhgvrhhtrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefgteeuudevffejjefggeefjeekudehudegkefgveelheekvdegfffgteelhefgudenucffohhmrghinhepughruhhiugdrnhgvthenucfkpheptddrtddrtddrtddpkeefrdelledrkeefrdduleeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpqdhouhhtpdhhvghlohepphhlrgihvghrjeelledrhhgrrdhovhhhrdhnvghtpdhinhgvtheptddrtddrtddrtddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpedvtddruddttdesuggvfhgvrhhtrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepfhhrvggvsghsugdqqhhuvghsthhiohhnshesfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrgh X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H6gy5Llqz4BdD X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=defert.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 20.100@defert.com designates 188.165.54.143 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=20.100@defert.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.85)[-0.855,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[143.54.165.188.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:mail-out.ovh.net]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.932,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[defert.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[143.54.165.188.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(1.10)[ipnet: 188.165.0.0/16(3.48), asn: 16276(2.00), country: FR(-0.00)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[196.83.99.83.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:188.165.0.0/16, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 06:51:27 -0000 I have an MFC-L2710DW and it works with CUPS using the brlaser port. On 05/05/2020 15:58, darcy@druid.net wrote: > With all of the discussion about Brother printers I thought I might > throw this out there. I have a Brother MFC-L2700DW series > printer/scanner. There does not seem to be a driver for cups for it so > I am going to try some of the suggestions in the "Brother HL-L2340D > printer and lpd?" thread. I like lpd better than cups anyway. > > However, I don't see anything about scanning. I somehow managed to get > scanning working on an Ubuntu system but never on FreeBSD or NetBSD. > Can anyone suggest some way to make this device work with xsane or some > other system? > > The printer is on the network. I can even access the internal web > server from my FreeBSD box. > > Thanks for any help. > > -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain | Democracy is three wolves > http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 > (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner. 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5si65iohD12lQFr8VBT3yswYPyFtkHXnO" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H75R2y77z4CP2 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=suszko.eu header.s=dkim header.b=TGqGJgno; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=suszko.eu; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of maciej@suszko.eu designates 2001:41d0:2:8316::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=maciej@suszko.eu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[suszko.eu:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.982,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[suszko.eu:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[suszko.eu,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[38.198.72.89.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.38)[ipnet: 2001:41d0::/32(4.91), asn: 16276(2.00), country: FR(-0.00)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 07:10:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --5si65iohD12lQFr8VBT3yswYPyFtkHXnO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="KwRT41cWHJgyxqk5WAd8bJDAYusPoH7zj" --KwRT41cWHJgyxqk5WAd8bJDAYusPoH7zj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just adding freebsd-questions list - anyone here who tried to run or use Microsoft Teams web/app ? On 5/5/20 2:52 PM, Maciej Suszko wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm wondering if anyone tried to use Microsoft Temas either web version= > or desktop app... Web version does work but making audio/video call > isn't officialy suppported, so you need to spoof user-agent to make it > partially working - but from time to time MS change something and it > just stop working. In the past weeks I was able to make audio calls, no= w > it's not possible (neither Firefox nor Chrome) >=20 > I tested my webcam and mic on https://www.onlinemictest.com/ and it's > all working, so problematic is the web application from MS. >=20 > Desktop application - here are two options, one for Linux, one for > Windows. I tried to run the Linux version using linuxulator, > brandelf-ing all the binaries but with no success... >=20 > #v+ > tlhscd@arsenic:/tmp/teams/share/teams $ ./teams > Trace/BPT trap (core dumped) > #v- >=20 > How do you think - are there any chances to make the desktop app workin= g > in out FreeBSD desktops?--=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --KwRT41cWHJgyxqk5WAd8bJDAYusPoH7zj-- --5si65iohD12lQFr8VBT3yswYPyFtkHXnO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIoJrn47KEjxeB5CF95cXLotfKhkFAl6yYsYACgkQ95cXLotf Khn6nggAu/wWMNy5DdBWb4BecWV7pTxR8Ti+ZFi0hHIfzCVeyiR18JlsuET9wZxi HzjLLL+LONsl7/DWX2uFzLyXMKdvYyumcuzvBXi7xGT3gvgdj2u6IxS143cM8Y2V 6aR754lcdzbp55G09kJKBh0h3I0/fcDp7nDekTHOY/OxzvRLflZf7TvZzZVXmjgP DCXAV0EvkqsYds/HyWgExgq8ybJyeF5dTT8usurLwjAAah4w5Kj6VzvgCLdsiCU5 +qzgJMpK946RzTq7X8LS5XAf4o+rD7YOOXE2LvVYu7I4tYAwis+QpZ30lh+kdJLb /w2Kua0gXTBjhKs4sISNrcE2Ipd23g== =0zLd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5si65iohD12lQFr8VBT3yswYPyFtkHXnO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 07:12:24 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0692E7FD9 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42d.google.com (mail-wr1-x42d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H7871tL3z4Cln for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id k1so844476wrx.4 for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:12:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=0j5rjxnBhgdbcLt70/yVhQpdldZLdEZ7JJa2XOTOrDs=; b=Gsrr1ZFPwrwS7E6jbZydnQU8KiCIluIF57U2fSspaJ0rpzeEudIreQXhRa7Ei+nf9f kJMiUYme4dWt6nwK2k9ohcLDeRuBZ7XSSrPpkUP8V4Trbj2FE5nQ2SVRaew0vuGA+4Ac qxgoi67+XASSr6/cehZFvHS3n6xqn08EnfJZ5J7b1qfYhBN/G4FZUkcXQqAlfBtHmi+q jLqFvj3nO3r4zXSy2DJNvnMeKQBeFKluy8L3m4+sU1x80PmYknauc11nx6PH+g4WQgB+ whoPlO1XO1gdlLiDNs4sY5M3y1+K1sJzPu2nqI3E7OQI6vOXp86bOLvQ4hyvBK373/Vq 1jUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=0j5rjxnBhgdbcLt70/yVhQpdldZLdEZ7JJa2XOTOrDs=; b=icYjrokX82U5UUc8aX3i0xO5lyHsUjY1hHbsX+yTAAGAI2b68t5GGn7WR6zhS3U3Yi Tvg0kDA3pWE2213Y4V3sizL2dYCsV7iO0MEvY7Pcyet3TsoDY7kWNMDS5wqdJ69684HW ZHh1bEMC3kQKXyD347Gi6afp4/7KuKTSRrN172xCeqfTukiLJrBIAHpDMwa7h1rpVrcP 9i0pCiZTHWBi9UlNiPA44+kAyHsLVia4dnot6wXlsBn0WiBGYjvRVhR9L3CJ4mIdz9YN QvlqSjblgCvhI0oMr5MbstNDrqvSp1Umi0ENwF0p8KeISKn7JX1iPwOpjxhGkNKPTU8D UbKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYBz8xXrngkoIpOUbwZKegkXVjWkho/zzEX/WMNxfbp3F5d/mlb iHrz9eJ+TWEGgku8ReYIvrL5bvo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKc0TQ8Ye3C+znpRx9TOca4viq9A1HrZuuK8soMAXerK4iSUFsLhFBZ401qA/CQ3r0joOD+ZA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:fecf:: with SMTP id q15mr7696288wrs.259.1588749141295; Wed, 06 May 2020 00:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:470:1f1d:97:f2de:f1ff:fed1:783c? ([2001:470:1f1d:97:f2de:f1ff:fed1:783c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l19sm1615582wmj.14.2020.05.06.00.12.20 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 06 May 2020 00:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bsd install To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505211848.b6d81e98.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Shamim Shahriar Message-ID: <8577cb33-9a32-a0f7-01ab-e18d4e19296d@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 08:12:16 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H7871tL3z4Cln X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Gsrr1ZFP; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of shamimshahriar@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=shamimshahriar@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.69), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.30), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 07:12:24 -0000 On 06/05/2020 00:56, Brandon helsley wrote: > I'm a complete noob, I don't understand any of this. > > There are plenty of tutorials / study-guide / course on various popular web sources -- and i suspect you will be better off starting with one of those. Even though a lot of members on this list offered to spoon feed you so far (I suspect primarily because everyone is bored with the lockdown), there is only so much one can do until they get bored with that as well. I personally do not support and to some extent hate spoon feeding. I sent you a link about how to ask questions the right way, which suggested many different things to do before you ask the question -- obviously that was not your preferred way forward. there are popular sites like LinkedIn Learning, Udemy, and I'm sure there are many more. Look for networking courses (CCNA used to be quite popular and used to teach Networking Fundamentals). Start from the basics, learn the elements of it. Once you have at least the basics right, only then can you have a meaningful exchange with the people on the list. Hope this helps All the best. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 07:40:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB446138F9F for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from archeo.suszko.eu (archeo.unixguru.pl [IPv6:2001:41d0:2:8316::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H7mb4tNSz4FR0 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from archeo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D292F684; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:40:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at archeo.local Received: from archeo.suszko.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by archeo (archeo.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 7EPZCrsDILUv; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:40:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.2.3] (89-72-198-38.dynamic.chello.pl [89.72.198.38]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 572252F674; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:40:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=suszko.eu; s=dkim; t=1588750829; bh=fi16qghTtPdfDIYRIkJUxAG9KANrzWePcuVG1NZDea0=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=YqE0fmHqRvq0grnyUSVTQfWffuDNLfdA9OiVNjPoASnNfVlCpP1m8xFOlBM1pRGJc up8S3bJztBLJR5vtXWmsikjcYKd0p8pNB4/0FFTnf7Vthh+R+hD/BoIZfhuqCXyTdJ Nqyq2VZrjntr2atwcQYmRrN4MS+sclAAgg2RO65A= Subject: Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jerry References: <20200505093624.00001df2@seibercom.net> From: Maciej Suszko Autocrypt: addr=maciej@suszko.eu; keydata= mQENBFzMuVABCADTImD6lLLoxdskJypDlDvu7ilbbluXdJiZ8+hcb/WzZXD+fKn3h01BtJYN p4IuX2fn9Rc94GXanuJl0/AlguQexgUgOKdiqDHZyCjRX42vIq0BKXkvK6Gd2wUYqbhjyzr1 V0WT9qTxVlHEbPUCQJ6QxQA2ygJNdwKPvnKwlrj6NWskmpycM3/3uIHhVrRWsrO9El/o2mRX JeIVV0BzP0lYLYhpuwMAlu+B8lPxVChuVQb6UWzLIvSGfqXUPnAxJXcZxkFyEnnetnXctrKC NGnRYPop3r7kd2MgkvHgw81aVMf7HqXhxBBQq0kUrg9TCsL9wwQfyPR7LDgQrIFP78WZABEB AAG0IE1hY2llaiBTdXN6a28gPG1hY2llakBzdXN6a28uZXU+iQFRBBMBCAA7AhsDBQsJCAcC BhUKCQgLAgQWAgMBAh4BAheAAhkBFiEEIoJrn47KEjxeB5CF95cXLotfKhkFAlzMupkACgkQ 95cXLotfKhmWYAf/e9JHkUxoVHj6LsOS9YLM+XFZzeRM93K3t9gzpWalIvEAIMKicO0KFypl XXGiSc9ECeZNEwd+VfU6AmL707dQpJiBe13X++PC5Lps/S8WMtZRtmd2vbaIcHixzimBdvi1 hPcTPJjIPEQon2BwwFxId4tzx56qglrwFovZfFZV7U0+qZjvwh+UI9ZKbNgOndkdJf1Hld0I R4PIEQ3H5IIaKoFcNBaXB6fWqR19e8gidBeZRbMszYiaGGtltv+OKuqXxGUTA7siVCxaY9U4 Z2TJi0BvsBbaDyDjMw3/xQCd0vNtJ5TNI5kuUaPf1tPFGzC/Hcwru5iri7K3U4/BNH+izbkB DQRczLlQAQgAlhC1oZUt2fdgCpjLWVEPj8sc1uqoyiicW/oGDirXqyJKRfPn6vWI5W7otBOY NSJyISNi7IuXRcRnSVkWGf5w4nOO1PFRgxWvVd8LgJ2T6ykA8oqYNN6opwcyvDTQwC+cVOYl f1Mbmz3Lg9bmMvbBu5P9w/raxV2A6Q9Hq7eSvHbfiyR5S8CBZ3Al9cYd8tp7mZXQuyShxNKJ s59K1BU5JMKvRhX1jVS0x4XFtZSU536UtPj/IAV4LGaDaZGUsWHfyeaG94/ZmTtuYmuGqchH u0clClnHCmkv+CcIMBHeSp4CVjq9o7BHYdFSXE+An8XoOycNo0am9mxNPW7Vc/qhXwARAQAB iQE2BBgBCAAgAhsMFiEEIoJrn47KEjxeB5CF95cXLotfKhkFAlzMuqQACgkQ95cXLotfKhlU mwf6AvSkjYo9Ma1TsFRL4EJA7snf6Y294E1H41MeDQ4t4ciLV1S60zBAJ68rOd8zMJ+7IvYh V/SPSvOFFXoePHKk+hNhnvZfrk9rd1QdjB69SNeHmVi/1KTIaLuNfsngsgL1KO53qBmfQyiw Y/1OddfZjZXvZtfSEGi4JVtSF3JXWVe9et80c0Zrg1X6PFSueqCw2uzX2gWRLrcMEFKQfPn8 Hs6Gf7/+m/8F+xghXYBqjjIbcXLps4wBdXfSuGNG3DFlTg3YBFcWYJAt92BnPZGxXl9LWljP Ar7ZE5lEwqklwNtGX0sWd6wbpv0BILz+ENGOXnwMapyyiWlCG8avBPM//g== Message-ID: <223da1b3-a83d-b2e8-36dc-468dcb219305@suszko.eu> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 09:40:22 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200505093624.00001df2@seibercom.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6T8d878SzGMricx4K9pg7PHti5BNLHKYb" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H7mb4tNSz4FR0 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 07:40:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6T8d878SzGMricx4K9pg7PHti5BNLHKYb Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="SGX3UwmIQ6C0PRTV4Rj2TXp81hgkKzkzr" --SGX3UwmIQ6C0PRTV4Rj2TXp81hgkKzkzr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/5/20 3:36 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2020 14:52:01 +0200, Maciej Suszko commented: >> Hi, >> >> I'm wondering if anyone tried to use Microsoft Temas either web versio= n >> or desktop app... Web version does work but making audio/video call >> isn't officialy suppported, so you need to spoof user-agent to make it= >> partially working - but from time to time MS change something and it >> just stop working. In the past weeks I was able to make audio calls, >> now it's not possible (neither Firefox nor Chrome) >> >> I tested my webcam and mic on https://www.onlinemictest.com/ and it's >> all working, so problematic is the web application from MS. >> >> Desktop application - here are two options, one for Linux, one for >> Windows. I tried to run the Linux version using linuxulator, >> brandelf-ing all the binaries but with no success... >> >> #v+ >> tlhscd@arsenic:/tmp/teams/share/teams $ ./teams >> Trace/BPT trap (core dumped) >> #v- >> >> How do you think - are there any chances to make the desktop app >> working in out FreeBSD desktops? >=20 > I assume you are referring to "Microsoft Teams". Have you tried posting= > your question here: > No, I haven't but I'll take a look on that. I prefer using Firefox over Chrome, but following this: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/join-a-teams-meeting-on-an-unsup= ported-browser-daafdd3c-ac7a-4855-871b-9113bad15907 it's unsupported on making video/audio call - that's not the full truth. Web behavior depends on User-Agent beeing sent - spoofing it gives the possibility to make audio call, but that just stopped working in my case... I can't make audio call neither on Chrome nor on Firefox, so I suspect it's some MS change. > According to ,= > Microsoft Teams is now available on desktop and mobile operating > systems including Windows, Mac, Android, iOS and web platforms. >=20 > According to this URL: https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-teams-linux/, MS > Teams is available for Linux. Of course, that is a far cry from > FreeBSD, so YMMV. True, desktop app is the preferred method using Teams, unfortunately there is no FreeBSD build and I suppose there won't be any... It would be nice to have it running using our Linux emulation layer - I can help to test it if anyone is interested. > Report back with your findings. I would be interested in the usability > of this application on FreeBSD. I'll do my best, Office365 and it's community is still growing particulary nowadays, in covid-19 times. Many companies use O365 platform, which Teams is a part of. --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --SGX3UwmIQ6C0PRTV4Rj2TXp81hgkKzkzr-- --6T8d878SzGMricx4K9pg7PHti5BNLHKYb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIoJrn47KEjxeB5CF95cXLotfKhkFAl6yaeYACgkQ95cXLotf KhleSAgArhKiw8MxfeA/zs7oLpJuav0v+SNZfIEGASqn/5syJyO9wkrxJ+P5t7/t drsNY7zG+20Qd4wPaJVfTt/sIOOjDO+GxRqNZP3VYOSgvCCH8Ac82o7rJPRV0gRh A7ZPDQfIkfXpNG8rhtSWYryDpSqZHj9J1VjfvQ8VMxVQ4IJn7aFto4jXPKx3Sc+w /e8CQ26sDtzjv8pZp+DsrN0CZdd261LfYPfnGyi9w93Q0+m6JrYZULb5cigndSSV fpjH9njHPJC6o9TKxYdavfxZymSx+CzAZrE0gxS0iPb9SWUt4FlW7xrUnFogFx5d 3ap5idhqPRwhCpGxYKo7fzTeAXUBbg== =rFEo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6T8d878SzGMricx4K9pg7PHti5BNLHKYb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 08:01:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3181139D62 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H8Dj4SPXz4Gnw for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M6DOg-1jU38E3aq8-006eqD; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:01:22 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:01:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: Victor Sudakov , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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I tried the same - but it's not sufficient. You'll have to set the symlink for the papersize as mentioned before, then it will work. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 08:06:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897E613A090 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H8M06DhNz4HBx for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N17gy-1j7XWs1qXa-012WlN; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:06:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:06:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Brandon helsley Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsd install Message-Id: <20200506100648.6f2e0ea9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505211848.b6d81e98.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YYN4VGWRYWI6710gMnCFOWHFggXj77iIlj9Kt0YD8e73XL58FSz 9z4k0acpgCNs0afIunMQPKKDd4nQZyWtln58M8xbmw0Dbd/yotBwt+Xz+I4d46IcyubZtJv 4bkTA99GqmGQB3hqxaZounF8LDZ9XNNqKou5gs6WOg8Cj6kle6rokRMik+GdWNGaYgUffid K4g+PIHko9DaulHWvlelQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:xZLw28PzP70=:0zRWwPadxnIHZRu0ig6neN PaaGGVL82PXo4ei0xSakCz7I9jNYixNMvzwJ6aU9ObnRVqU3UZCkBBgtjbpawpVBZe59SiGH+ l4S3Ok/L16Gutq9tiUFR05eIN7FMf6Ohg7vwKlnFiPI/0q/liPR9L4GhyW+/kqO+FLB9LGfqc box6K/AcUZnsEtVyVTEN3lI+A3qw2jrF5WAo6BC0Aqtly3Yu+v2PXXNFsTUPQanaQlAuzfHnm ezQ3Ts/YMnhkfhgLx9ow5gQ31imvxoqX/eq3s7ckv6Fa2iUmWviTsp6ZTKAfS/AtL5aJ5S2+f xtES9LvBZIPnY7uzmIjamOThqkza4rXY73khF6esyzxIK22xDSKL3EsFUy72pWCQZTh++tmwm QcnD+nWwCspeaFX7v0iKs3x1HqwGmQEKndps2WLsZOr13hi1rwg1DSC+AdobPVeZWX6Hds1W+ naUV23KhS9A57KiRoZeWN7KkvUO0UArb4UWrt1MfO0mKx0jQBAWvB9Nodx03kcZdqWQc/lc5z pCDw0edqzzmEQ7l7fZBMNC4LhNL9Y57HKYsuHRyLY4YopgnZ0N/law04rj1yBCQGFtHwjelFJ whuVmTY+C7yNnqpAEHOd2ehfgWU/rYGqbbJ3qubxQ93jOFNhel0nfxVRZaqJNC42JStzeJD96 h+m2BFlGtfk728nyxeie1fNCiZ2ogXA8BhJFoVK0wVNG1+XEiO2BaXBJA5NwYnkAoW39+SroE q93/sMidRmQI9FeMO7UThAmMwgwo6y1Jz0z4sUnFsrWxkiLATfQ0NEoYdD96CchN8PFW+i+BW nm1fjGlKQe58OT6e5B0xdfBbOyEC219ZYqOQBibg6tPSonoTrx9+YzVxa1fMrmj665OCQmyDc lmRxoYwOWTfO3LoyXWBQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H8M06DhNz4HBx X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.13) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.84 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[16.27.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.40)[0.395,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.959,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[13.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[13.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.08)[ip: (-0.40), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.03), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 08:06:54 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:34:24 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > When I do this I get no ip addresses for ipv4 in the resolver configuration Maybe it's easier when you edit /etc/rc.conf. Do you need to set up a specific IP etc., or do you receive your data via DHCP? If that's the case, find out the name of your network interface (see "ifconfig -a" output), and as the last line of /etc/rc.conf, add ifconfig_="DHCP" Substitite with the appropriate interface name, for example: ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" If you do _not_ have DHCP available, configure the interface manually; in /etc/rc.conf, add or change, for example ifconfig_vr0="inet 192.168.123.100 netmask 0xffffff00" defaultrouter="192.168.123.1" You can find more information in the FreeBSD handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/config-network-setup.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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You'll have to set > the symlink for the papersize as mentioned before, then it will > work. :-) Or use the -M flag like all my a2ps based aliases do. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 08:23:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1B813ABA0 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H8k669MKz4Jjm for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Md66H-1iwuN83vRj-00aAD0; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:18:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:18:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Brandon helsley Cc: Aryeh Friedman , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: bsd install Message-Id: <20200506101817.5769bfea.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505211848.b6d81e98.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:W7ohLFQbPxpLbsyfAf0jBLtk7ggeNrVc4RPkKWphl4AwwJoL5dl L+piI8+00HgbKEUxKnnINBSMEuyqEpHm43GPGqqLQ60Vvy0EM23w/DvoleplWyMLCJaQ5rX RxROu0Ukh56MAlUuGtXgklqc91yky4olwNI80K7hS9SP9cDQUMkUtdh99nNmPwMfpStZncO 8qvd8EDA39tSgPJjyNdSw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Tgns1G0xwzc=:qoIvzXNzfSA6npvkVAP2iw zIeaqq5WjVfiGPooSw3S2ZJygRKVtQyiwGs/TgbRgF8P8yFlXp/ODegyIMqesp+F5yN4OZ8WB vfxM9fn1DDHUHJ926+XgJQqngZjJHd9o0uEA89hqySJ56R3ORuLe40audxjMPoorolkR3HnAg AvhJXIj+xB+GftT+cnEh1QhGsrNgt5Twm5ppv0JfT+TNlcKay9va7PL6Xz5AcuFWoOYf3oznW kUcYy5mgBFHjQyQpxVhqn38jk1P4QzVNF37BjUnidv1M1GDqMFpXyZIiCyCJWF8FCCBSeOWY+ SqR+vJyd4bAj8IMMOTaDwfio8RDf67kvjqjnwi5f5/1N7s+VUtgrzs3o8RdiROdqwVPM/4nQ1 OmqMnTfjWBGNojxsureStvmIlZga8+KIEvSWlYvRqni1U2YPOnElJOOM6RcGiy5YGHV7fy2/Q f1EvvMhc3O/eIB33SFInWP58VWs8OcyXMhnxFKyUl7FfZE0FmL70YPYoAdntzaUwe8Me/nhCV kUg2W1Vzhn5I5DAdsognKgvjAkDZhcU2we6rejiyK2R8Uuqpe5VHiLCLtiR/mdZHJXoMbuy0A 5GoxhEgQteaDZaJUikR8KxC2LH4I9tFcOFB9E4BZIgs635dXejYc06ooJSOroCJQnNenFvGDU grXhpEedD4tMZrA+D7eBVUUhNzirTxfhJ6YAQHsPI5PWELJ9xmiXQAXg2BfAKvynw6s+tZ9+T WZBqXnHw+UqPGvegdxbkqvR3CuUbZCYE4LwVB8yN6Fmv174u5xMMzz+198d5yZu7p48hjVGzn ad/HkJ6LTovT1jX+LZSiFP8CtwgK62xnVjdBpyCqFg+Wu65Wbu4MA4gaLkxm0oOyBZ/7ujANf iYs10Fn7oLWHDWIjuVzA== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H8k669MKz4Jjm X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.73) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.32 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(0.42)[ip: (-0.18), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.28), asn: 8560(2.03), country: DE(-0.02)]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[73.192.72.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.19]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 08:23:27 -0000 On Tue, 5 May 2020 23:56:35 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: > I'm a complete noob, I don't understand any of this. First you need to know what you're dealing with. :-) First of all, _what_ is your system connected to? A router or something like that? One that goes to your ISP, or one that encloses you into a local network? Then find out if that device offers DHCP, i. e., if it will assign you a local IP if you ask for it. Then find out the name of your network interface you use to connect. Check the output of # ifconfig -a as it will be one of those entries. For every entry, you can use "man " to find out what it is. BEside a "lo0" interface you'll probably only have one or two others. One has an attribute like "media: Ethernet" and "status: connected". That's the one you need to configure. Depending on if you can have DHCP (automatic) or need to configure things manually - in this case, ask your installation about _what_ you have to set up -, go to work. DHCP ---- Let's say you network interface is bge0. Edit /etc/rc.conf and add the following: ifconfig_bge0="DHCP" Reboot. That's it. Manual ------ Get all information you need: my IP, my gateway, my resolver. Let's assume bge0 again, and your IP is 192.168.123.100, the gateway's address is 192.168.123.1, and it also acts as a name server (name resolution) with the same IP 192.168.123.1. Edit /etc/rc.conf and add: ifconfig_bge0="inet 192.168.123.100 netmask 0xffffff00" defaultrouter="192.168.123.1" Edit /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 192.168.123.1 Again, allow me to point you to the relevant section of the FreeBSD handbook where this topic is covered. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/config-network-setup.html Keep in mind: You don't have to deal with most things anyway if you can use DHCP, but it doesn't hurt to know the basics of networking. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 08:25:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3998713ADC9 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H8mP0x5lz4K2J for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MjSPq-1iq0vA2YDC-00kwB0; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:25:22 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:25:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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How the heck do I print text files with this setup? Should I convert > > > > > them to PostScript first, and how? UTF-8 Cyrillic support is crucial. > > > > > > > > Yes, gs expects PS as its input. For programs that print > > > > (except here: Firefox), PS is the default output anyway. > > > > But if you have ASCII text, you need to turn it into PS. > > > > > > > > The easiest way to do this is the port "a2ps" (ASCII to > > > > > > a2ps from packages is broken: > > > > > > $ a2ps /etc/rc.conf > > > a2ps: unknown medium `libpaper' > > > > Install "libpaper" package and manually set a symlink in > > /usr/local/etc: papersize -> papersize.a4 for standard ISO A4 > > paper, or papersize -> papersize.letter for US letter. > > The package is installed and the files are present: > > $ pkg info -o libpaper > libpaper-1.1.24.4 print/libpaper > $ file /usr/local/etc/papersize.* > /usr/local/etc/papersize.a4: ASCII text > /usr/local/etc/papersize.letter: ASCII text > > This does not work. I just verified it is working. Just set the symlink accordingly. % cd /usr/local/etc/ % ll papersize* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 2020-05-05 20:19:55 papersize@ -> papersize.a4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3 2019-05-16 03:07:27 papersize.a4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7 2019-05-16 03:07:27 papersize.letter Seems that I already had libpaper installed, but the symlink to make it work was missing. Yes, I used truss to discover it. ;-) > > > > Personally, I use "encript" for turning ASCII reports > > > > > > enscript is good, but it has huge problems with Cyrillic, and is totally > > > lacking multibyte support (UTF-8). > > > > Correct. That's why I had to use it with ISO-8859-1 standard > > western europe character set (single byte per symbol) in order > > to get Umlauts displayed correctly. Maybe another processing > > step ("recode utf-8..koi8 ") can be used in the printer > > filter. > > Too much info (too many glyphs) are lost this way. I'm already used to > non-koi8-compatible characters in my texts, even when they are plain > texts. That might be a problem due to this kind of tools not having entered the era of multibyte encoding... :-) > > > Oh! I wish I knew how to add something to Firefox's print dialog! > > > Do you? > > > > If you define several printers in /etc/printcap (and not > > forget to run cap_mkdb), a system running lpr should have > > the available printers listed in Firefox's print dialog. > > Unless, of course, Firefox is hard-wired with CUPS, and > > no CUPS - no printer selection. > > Looks like it's hardwired with GTK, and GTK is hardwired with > something else, and nobody knows any more how it all works. Yes, that is problematic. On the system I use CUPS, and I get the printer selection as intended. But installing CUPS for the purpose of not intentionally using it doesn't seem right. > > Another idea might be to use the variable $PRINTER to name > > the printer before starting Firefox. > > > Does not help either. It should. If Firefox just writes to lpr, lpr should use $PRINTER (as per "man lpr"); depending on your shell, try to set the variable in the shell's configuration file, re-login, and it should work. > I've also tried tinkering with print.printer_list in about:config to no > avail. That's not a surprise to me: many things that are supposed to work or have been working in the past have now been greatly disimproved due to Linuxisms and YAGNI. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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What sound hardware are you using? Can you provide the significant section of the output of # pciconf -lv or # dmesg as well as # cat /dev/sndstat has to say? That would help. Anything else is just guessing, and it typically leads to no success. Most sound hardware works out of the box anyway. PS. Please make sure you use a subject line that matches the intention of your question or problem. Thank you. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 08:59:28 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964BC13BF60 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x12b.google.com (mail-il1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49H9Wg6PXYz4Lqw for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id e8so1006031ilm.7 for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 01:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xnJSZsWp+NDOO6SaeatMLlrWDCWz9DE3ncxF6ZmjEIY=; b=kw0vNjUIGqwzIb/y83C3XtuD5tll3g7sLMltazvKZyryc1nGngtEqc1XVj5DDpFQeT YBtcceGEsN42U0rgRFu8sPY69ct6CxgyRW/TFQu7eOZWB4EkIIE+POyYIaQgIZIf4ZJu cCSZnT4tAwddU9rSzP3bJR8tVo7n5DKyhQJ5ej4YM0SCbqR8VuQObHAkCHCli6nGCyok elP1E/q+x0TyWhIKAFuZhkg3/llrSiwEkml6GrK2+EaSKO0bY3WIsP69k1MpyQFMcvF6 3PZZ/QfPBSCT59Mi5d0maczfo8iTWFE1MThHvZao8+/4ZABvkqC0HnujHEay6/N/nFRt +pqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xnJSZsWp+NDOO6SaeatMLlrWDCWz9DE3ncxF6ZmjEIY=; b=Tt03mI0+fHUIvho1MKWu4QGHOwcR2rUA+8WbqiUGQactoKhIobjnhMbOTMze3a7dSy 0AKlsO2f8N4872apTdfchpC2+qSiupFY1OH7L9OZFrBlyLobjOA/DffG1wHTaWSrf/Fc QQGNbIK+Gp29mMcX6RfNHo7xc4QMX9D9GTUDSpTmghtH/2tDutd0/AT5a5/Hgmx/4sKO 2Rk/9heq7kiMGyPMQwraSfP8bO6FejVkoyQ2Qdfw2qH9Fof64dgHk24Y/u9mgRdjd9bV oeOUkyCPFpeqNJXz2t4+9mIlP6Ja1V/M170YRiiwFsDT2kt7bjZpCGjGobp1O2TOcvq6 EUbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZxbSdetK09P/vaAbYn2/AJbXQjXn+ewCz68gt8rD5uMgKpFI1E Arg/KvywnLemleKrQWvooagGg7CHgCXRyMIBzx0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKBcF2G53/LBEoGvgiHUVqc0JKs7ryX1AIk5fBefv0eDg7vbVDDq0pR0ZUeJvf4K99HKDyHKGeZBq+PKqQtL2M= X-Received: by 2002:a92:ca81:: with SMTP id t1mr7765655ilo.187.1588755566802; Wed, 06 May 2020 01:59:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505211848.b6d81e98.freebsd@edvax.de> <8577cb33-9a32-a0f7-01ab-e18d4e19296d@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8577cb33-9a32-a0f7-01ab-e18d4e19296d@gmail.com> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 04:59:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bsd install To: Shamim Shahriar Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49H9Wg6PXYz4Lqw X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=kw0vNjUI; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-7.70), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 08:59:28 -0000 > I personally do not support and to some extent hate spoon > feeding. I sent you a link about how to ask questions the right way, > which suggested many different things to do before you ask the question > -- obviously that was not your preferred way forward. > ... > Once you have at least the basics > right, only then can you have a meaningful exchange with the people on > the list. > > Hope this helps > It almost certainly does not help to have your attitude towards beginners with thinking like this, which luckily is not everyone on the list, no wonder FreeBSD has the reputation it has for being unfriendly (I would agree it is not a OS meant for beginners it doesn't mean we should push them away). This is the beginners list, after all, according to the Handbook -- not one of the more specialized lists where expectations of RTFM are more appropriate. Note that even on other lists the OP is being treated with a much more open mind (ex. see his bhyve thread on -virtualization@) -- Aryeh M. 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It compiles without any issue (once you use gmake instead of make) but it produces PostScript that causes gs to complain which I think is due to not finding the FreeMono font but I'm not sure. The only place I can see the FreeMono font in the ports is in tetex and I'm not sure that installing tetex will get it working. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 09:36:32 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23AB13D2A6 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004d4fe7a.6a1962ffc11c532c99acec5772dfa917@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HBLS1Dvmz4P36 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004d4fe7a.6a1962ffc11c532c99acec5772dfa917@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588757792; x=1591349792; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=nUWbEb2SLOv/2FF3ckKVrL9YrL7XAPIqV5W69VNAQ4s=; b=EP3JuP7ceOHPBuFFfXaJY0Ou9shRKDq7Q8no0gCsL+c7/rVtd1w6w8kd0IFDwEuyr1n+7TxNCj2JSL+Autj8kh5gQRwUy//xEaEgYf9Lx8BWNHyxuICl3Bws+6aov7ovyi9Ha/dLIMESd+p6RhRav3vxs95Pu+u1Gs9+zi5rKzg= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDRkNGZlN2EuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 6 May 2020 05:36:22 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 6 May 2020 05:36:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWGTU-000IVg-SO; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:36:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:36:20 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Victor Sudakov Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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The only place I can > see the FreeMono font in the ports is in tetex and I'm not sure that > installing tetex will get it working. Self-talking - it's also in the freefont-ttf package - but installing that didn't help. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 09:56:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78B713E148 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HBnP68plz4QTv for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1959510276A for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:56:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZNaOps4ipBUe for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:56:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from christophs-mbp.fritz.box (p57A1FCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.161.252.194]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA4A3102769 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:56:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: SSD woes - boot Message-Id: <28BC0AA1-FF58-406A-A5EE-FB0641D2C2B5@kukulies.org> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 11:56:24 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HBnP68plz4QTv X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.40 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.02)[-0.023,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.64)[0.636,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 116.203.0.0/16(2.95), asn: 24940(-1.50), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[194.252.161.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 09:56:26 -0000 Since yesterday, when I ran smartcontrol against my drives - don=E2=80=99t= know whether it has to do with that but I=E2=80=99m mentioning it just = FWIW - my Kingston 240 GB SSD suddenly was no longer visible in the ASRock = MB=E2=80=992 BIOS. (ASRock939A790GMH). Strange, isn=E2=80=99t it, that a power fail or unclean = shutdown/dismount can cause the drive being no longer visible to the = BIOS. To test whether it was still alive, I took it out of the system, put it = into an ICY box and connected it to a FreeBSD (11) VM I have running = under Parallels on my MacbookPro. It got recognized on the USB bus and after I ran an fsck against it and = put it back into the BIOS, it was recognized again. So far so good. But now, due to some misordering in the hard disk = numbering scheme in the BIOS I can=E2=80=99t aim at the right partition = to boot.=20 With the old F1/F5 bootload of FreeBSD it always boots the wrong = partition .=20 Is there a better bootloader available which offers me a larger choice, = that eventually finds all bootable partitions on all disks in the = system? =E2=80=94 Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 09:57:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24E313E284 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HBpV41TCz4QZv for ; 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R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 09:57:23 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020 04:59:14 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > It almost certainly does not help to have your attitude towards beginners > with thinking like this, which luckily is not everyone on the list, no > wonder FreeBSD has the reputation it has for being unfriendly (I would > agree it is not a OS meant for beginners it doesn't mean we should push > them away). In my opinion and experience, the FreeBSD community is one of the friendliest (!) I have encountered so far. Where does the reputation of being unfriendly come from? I'm not asking this in any kind of impolite tone, I'm really interested in who thinks and says this community is unfriendly... > This is the beginners list, after all, according to the Handbook -- not one > of the more specialized lists where expectations of RTFM are more > appropriate. Note that even on other lists the OP is being treated with a > much more open mind (ex. see his bhyve thread on -virtualization@) Don't confuse friendliness with endless tolerance of rude behaviour. Even for a beginners' list, there is the common suggestion of "doing your homework", as well as maintaining a certain discussion culture. Aspects of this are part of what is widely understood as "netiquette". Just allow me to mention a few things that I find problematic: - messages with the question (or just bullet points) in the subject, no body - messages with no subject, just a short question or state- ment in the body - not mentioning the OS version, program version, or hardware brand and model the question is about - not providing what has been done, and what the result was - not accepting the "posting rules" of the list (here: inline replies, shortening and summarizing possible) Yes, I know: If someone can only access your mail with some dysfunctional smartphone app that was obviously made for people who have no clue what they're doing, then following all those suggestions can be quite problematic. But again, if you seek help for free (i. e., paid by others' time!), you should first make sure your communication equipment is compatible. Everything else just leads to follow-up questions and guesswork, and that has never been a good foundation. As you said, RTFM is just a part of the whole "homework", but it's also an important one. Not being able to understand all terminology and everything mentioned is not a problem. But not _trying_ might be... Blindly followint things mentioned in the handbook and other places usually does not lead to everything magically working, especially if the stuff mentioned there doesn't even apply to the current setting, or doesn't apply anymore. In my opinion, there are certain readers who will follow a structured manual in the form of "if X then A else B" by doing A _and_ B (just in the order as they are listed, not even looking at condition X), and then start complaining. I don't know if this applies here; not enough information, does not compute. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 10:30:37 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE9C13EF45 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HCXq4yCQz4S2d for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=DhokQFg5NQterBXpZNbHOKBdYE/hHnMFO9jM1vOCQmY=; b=aAEcz3KKa5qB3+9cdmUDDhegX5 sqtyMnQWan8xCJQz3hvAsoM8pmdvR4JE+r1Qin7KNRhQQyT87XiuppEYTaEJ8Tk24JDRlM5twp7wa bRCwgygTzgGOVmRgIhJhVu3/ZQDjuevfa99RCGIVHCh2+/3+9h1AKhlf6Tg+sYvnBP7g=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWHJq-000K2K-Li; Wed, 06 May 2020 17:30:26 +0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 17:30:26 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200506103026.GA74014@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505202242.c16f07feef5674fc7b6e6fe9@sohara.org> <20200506015935.GA56526@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200506071659.8730d1d68f9d47e4407790f3@sohara.org> <20200506102943.6f68ea4859f8de9661e25895@sohara.org> <20200506103620.f23dcb43f26697795686ee18@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200506103620.f23dcb43f26697795686ee18@sohara.org> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HCXq4yCQz4S2d X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=aAEcz3KK; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.21)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.18), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 10:30:37 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2020 10:29:43 +0100 > "Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, 6 May 2020 07:16:59 +0100 > > "Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote: > >=20 > > > Given that problem it might be worth trying to see if this > > > ports easily - it claims to be somethi= ng > > > like a2ps for unicode. > >=20 > > It compiles without any issue (once you use gmake instead of make) > > but it produces PostScript that causes gs to complain which I think is = due > > to not finding the FreeMono font but I'm not sure. The only place I can > > see the FreeMono font in the ports is in tetex and I'm not sure that > > installing tetex will get it working. >=20 > Self-talking - it's also in the freefont-ttf package - but > installing that didn't help. I'm following with attention!=20 As it turned out that I now have a PostScript-only printer, I need to convert text to PostScript, I wish you all success! --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJespHCAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0j+EH/A7u0Tz7jYcu7SuvpTI8FGmE QmUF3tZjZiUAWADHMYYiJT8JXsMhI+5EPdGgLKLbLvswR0COEFdK5OtrLM1xBQ4G cwKmrofrOxVSCuAV8FH3KUy+W7kNodRKlkt4kbfLh7ZB9EdKKtHfhLZ9gX9XjIR5 NY7C7EEBZbB6PAGjtDTpLnOAYyJ7VSswlXfEIG3Bns9pkP9rih7X1S4DtgCnVbT8 dZNt+fxc9tiGCtk0jbdcY9b1xDjxfR2cQj8JfAaWEcqCnWfsAJKlc2yNuFJ8tkYN cEBbnIKWZY71cufXPYvbUAl8oned3g+wWA2qRiu49niycVer2yVKY2AzZ00HMws= =vPfm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 10:40:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6A813F426 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcy@druid.net) Received: from mail.vex.net (mail.vex.net [IPv6:2605:2600:1001::44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HClz4yCLz4SNy for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcy@druid.net) Received: from dilbert.druid.net (mobile-166-176-122-64.mycingular.net [166.176.122.64]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: darcy) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F262C7B2A6 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 06:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Brother printer/scanner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: D'Arcy Cain Autocrypt: addr=darcy@druid.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXno+ARYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAR2o17zm/M442SONWLjdQ/8Jpro8TbnUm/m1r4MHhygS0 HUQnQXJjeSBDYWluIDxkYXJjeUBkcnVpZC5uZXQ+iJYEExYIAD4WIQQZ0YBgv7psnnP4U/Hh AAd6d7lwwgUCXno+AQIbAwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDhAAd6 d7lwwvvTAQCfxQvyB5M06arZ2cL4LDj0wVxG9ay0PTR+qrQQ9DhevAD+I7W9XlbX6qL3gfDe A0wmuPKWrdSRWEcagXI1sGSC3Ay4OAReej4BEgorBgEEAZdVAQUBAQdAbPzu0iryH2ph9hjN L+Cu1Wo85QbDLV174RHCnjmD5WMDAQgHiH4EGBYIACYWIQQZ0YBgv7psnnP4U/HhAAd6d7lw wgUCXno+AQIbDAUJCWYBgAAKCRDhAAd6d7lwwhb/AQD/8Vd7zTK1s3g4bFCApa3W4zSqUa3/ 9trMr0wfaEOngAEA8iWgHnExoVEdLo9542+dJ8K0L7ntWdfIZLgCXK/2OQ8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 05:40:11 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82h773szVkwVbpObUnVgQiVMDzknGBTbY" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HClz4yCLz4SNy X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of darcy@druid.net has no SPF policy when checking 2605:2600:1001::44) smtp.mailfrom=darcy@druid.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[64.122.176.166.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[druid.net]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19842, ipnet:2605:2600::/32, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.40)[ip: (-6.89), ipnet: 2605:2600::/32(-3.44), asn: 19842(-1.56), country: CA(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 10:40:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --82h773szVkwVbpObUnVgQiVMDzknGBTbY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="g50NNizNcWRCRjsP7tXLoTx5i50EGCnvv" --g50NNizNcWRCRjsP7tXLoTx5i50EGCnvv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2020-05-06 01:51, Vincent DEFERT wrote: > I have an MFC-L2710DW and it works with CUPS using the brlaser port. Yes, it allows the printer to work but xsane still does not find the scanner. Do you have the scanner working? --=20 D'Arcy J.M. Cain | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner. 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Wed, 06 May 2020 03:52:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505211848.b6d81e98.freebsd@edvax.de> <8577cb33-9a32-a0f7-01ab-e18d4e19296d@gmail.com> <20200506115719.afb73ae0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200506115719.afb73ae0.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 06:51:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bsd install To: Polytropon Cc: Shamim Shahriar , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HD1X6PMSz4T5S X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ZuIdE/10; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::143 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (0.18), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 10:52:01 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:57 AM Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2020 04:59:14 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > It almost certainly does not help to have your attitude towards beginners > > with thinking like this, which luckily is not everyone on the list, no > > wonder FreeBSD has the reputation it has for being unfriendly (I would > > agree it is not a OS meant for beginners it doesn't mean we should push > > them away). > > In my opinion and experience, the FreeBSD community is one > of the friendliest (!) I have encountered so far. Where does > the reputation of being unfriendly come from? I'm not asking > this in any kind of impolite tone, I'm really interested in > who thinks and says this community is unfriendly... > Not passing judgement on the following links (I agree with your take on the community as a whole but there are a few outliers): https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/muc.lists.freebsd.current/vu9UJVJ10Oo https://lobste.rs/s/jedqwr/freebsd_is_amazing_operating_system#c_58vcua https://www.attendly.com/linux-founder-linus-torvalds-delivers-a-smackdown-like-no-other/ > > > This is the beginners list, after all, according to the Handbook -- not > one > > of the more specialized lists where expectations of RTFM are more > > appropriate. Note that even on other lists the OP is being treated with > a > > much more open mind (ex. see his bhyve thread on -virtualization@) > > Don't confuse friendliness with endless tolerance of rude > behavior. Even for a beginners' list, there is the common > suggestion of "doing your homework", as well as maintaining > a certain discussion culture. Aspects of this are part of > After paying for my undergrad degree with being a CS tutor (and just basic computer use one) I have found there are ways to lead the horse to water without teaching them how to drink it. Some mistake tips about where to look for things with doing someone's homework when it is not. If giving general pointers of where to start your learning is doing someone's homework then we need to re-examine the idea of what it means to be an educator. As you said, RTFM is just a part of the whole "homework", but > it's also an important one. Not being able to understand all > terminology and everything mentioned is not a problem. But > not _trying_ might be... > If you don't even know where to start in "trying" then what is wrong with asking? I don't think there many people are born knowing the difference between a computer and a rock. So learning how to use the first one starts with being told/learning it is not a rock. > Blindly following things mentioned in the handbook and other > places usually does not lead to everything magically working, > especially if the stuff mentioned there doesn't even apply to > the current setting, or doesn't apply anymore. In my opinion, > there are certain readers who will follow a structured manual > in the form of "if X then A else B" by doing A _and_ B (just > in the order as they are listed, not even looking at condition > X), and then start complaining. I don't know if this applies > here; not enough information, does not compute. ;-) > For raw beginners this the best they can do sometimes. We should not fault them if this is as far they can get on their own. -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 11:00:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236CE2C02EB for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HDBt0lk4z4TTf for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=JjQ3UYsJLTCKfwTHVGeb3AltIfxtA8xNIs7PVh2tkys=; b=jlBn+FZKpMH3HYRuiJboLYOo7n 6fiWlnUebA6fkrO5GbImlvIOOL5vSwVus0vTSWOeW3jFFMkxr32Y+WhxxWgPdafhMxKnXWs3J4TFT BpYPPQ3orkNJl3T2L2I82YNK9mceHyCx43Jqr3duadMHLhjlFOiLSnAZnWsUl9ybtjck=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWHmW-000KFr-Lx; Wed, 06 May 2020 18:00:04 +0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 18:00:04 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200506110004.GA77496@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505202331.53374f21.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200505202331.53374f21.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HDBt0lk4z4TTf X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=jlBn+FZK; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.21)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.19), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 11:00:07 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > > > Personally, I use "encript" for turning ASCII reports > >=20 > > enscript is good, but it has huge problems with Cyrillic, and is totally > > lacking multibyte support (UTF-8). >=20 > Correct. That's why I had to use it with ISO-8859-1 standard > western europe character set (single byte per symbol) in order > to get Umlauts displayed correctly. Maybe another processing > step ("recode utf-8..koi8 ") can be used in the printer > filter. No matter how I tried "enscript -X koi8 -p test.ps russian-koi8.txt" on Russian files, the resulting PostScript file is shown by GhostScript with question marks instead of Russian characters. I've also tried the ISO charset: $ iconv -f koi8-r -t ISO-8859-5 < russian-koi8.txt > russian-iso.txt $ enscript -X cyrillic -p test.ps russian-iso.txt [ 3 pages * 1 copy ] left in test.ps 53 characters were missing $ I still get the same question marks (I use gs's png driver to view the resulting PostScript). --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJespi0AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY07dUH+gPsNpAxRCFnmPKrKzM/Qk/e 2ooYjJKNdleCTmVhN0LludA1T+Xwq9CYM+j1xz2Z4fCZEHOmvjI7CPBE/kI92c73 p9Z2KVcvde2Oj9pUDHNYwzlZ6f4lQM7WwMnhJm5xLt2nkZebpW/1RjaAPCTYcLud T0HkVYoAqHlXw20ZPQUavF3ZgVtoPL9jxOaNOuMAQkGdwYejYeaIUc0cNTVviYAp lVH1to3XFM584eJwuMtu7WPtEzyIYz2jA0xir2HR8IdpdKmQmt2efivYpggdU0kF IyF3XI07bJq3m81wbJ/geR2oAZhz8Lrh3Pf93PAF780iD9bMzlbx3/wxu3tbyos= =9kll -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 11:03:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B414A2C062B for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HDGH3XNpz4Tqg for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=rxe0toURi1I56VUMvVmdA+d9V4u3bJNcTnKHv+pld8M=; b=f24QS0q8ppTFpGNGQ6M+19z1e8 gJ++vVpHjk7/0sviVMfX/Lj7qZDNOJDktpuArzjCwfIFsBEr2N23efHBEYcYpHWeGeYOblOrhoeLG GN7Q45e5TV5Wx/dnGpCrCVQ2qpDnBPDLLleVCs+zJ9gIeVpRaNzuS8kVg28QDSVtlSGg=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWHpN-000KHa-PI; Wed, 06 May 2020 18:03:01 +0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 18:03:01 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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My Linux CUPS installation prints UTF-8 text pretty well (the Thai Braille and Amharic and the final Hello World failed on the classic UTF-8 test text), it has the FreeMono fonts embedded in the CUPS directories. > As it turned out that I now have a PostScript-only printer, I need to > convert text to PostScript, I wish you all success! It looks like CUPS works by using an internal texttopdf converter and feeding to to pdftops. Installing cups-filters (quite a small package) makes this work cupsfilter Documents/UTF-8-demo.txt > t.ps The resultant file views and prints fine. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 11:14:36 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F8C2C0C21 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:14:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HDWb3HK8z4Vbn for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=TEfQp+uo4NUev3XjvMagj5W0o8ND15pePyAqYsm6sqk=; b=Q7khT/Ca/jMHmU0JC3Dm02loLf OL29RE+D28iU08zq/SR8gzsy27U+DbZZdHrm6kHKHHqsH/OfEoG2JDxe9KLnIWsgWdJyN51EvhCRN oLVVxRjsI1iHxVm9XbGzO8SCuNK01habc0Iin4S506ZrC9ldgbTghi8qremvkSCVIxtA=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWI0X-000KN0-Ub; Wed, 06 May 2020 18:14:33 +0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 18:14:33 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200506111433.GC77496@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <2c213d5f-8c18-812e-8770-dd5312b1edf7@panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Sr1nOIr3CvdE5hEN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2c213d5f-8c18-812e-8770-dd5312b1edf7@panix.com> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HDWb3HK8z4Vbn X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=Q7khT/Ca; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.21)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.19), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 11:14:36 -0000 --Sr1nOIr3CvdE5hEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2020-05-05 14:01, Victor Sudakov wrote: >=20 > > A PostScript translator (GhostScript or any other) can be expected to > > "raster" the PS input incorrectly if this input contains encodings it d= oes > > not understand, or glyphs/fonts it is lacking. > >=20 > > I've seen so many problems with Cyrillic in my life, believe me. I've > > seen PDFs with some Cyrillic glyphs replaced by garbage, and much more > > of such weird stuff than I wish to see. >=20 >=20 > It would be nice if you could send plain Unicode to a printer. Ideally, I > guess, either compressed or not -- UTF-8, UTF-16, or UTF-32. I don't expe= ct > it to happen. For the present, I'd be even happy to be able to convert KOI8-R Russian Cyrillic to PostScript or PDF, even this is not happening. Even vim's "hardcopy" feature produces PostScript with missing symbols instead of Russian ones. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --Sr1nOIr3CvdE5hEN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJespwZAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0AaAH/3qTawSQ/JX+A5I9dPBOypat NNGsQ0uaNvDyiFkEtiLyn9P5O4AHSJJ1fpzwrQWtIPdlCIJlXe1bzJjk3bjTcm1l qyCLvmZDVXT9jiQpyEZOTr0X0LmsJvnpGp+eccWftEse+T4LDAHcUkBOpmah5nra 0rWXIGRtz2hv2kUAsNt5JVmvCKbUwQZPT292BA4p78yJVNR02inJ5WT78VSDb7Yt E9nG/7+6EmahRj7nKha4J5exujX6joHEPgrV7cvEGej5ftWDc5Nvjf9nhgsJUHOJ ouIuBiVjQgF/bpw+qVoE1lkwb/w2O37b1UV6YuoQrin+nVMgjmRFlIGNmhdKCSQ= =mXv9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sr1nOIr3CvdE5hEN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 11:30:12 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347F52C1098 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HDsb4ZlJz4W6t for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=Doi0j01tEyeNm5U2/Auc1Rq67X1rCQNS+m97IQxygxM=; b=NmUZyfuaiU97oadmRWsYYYoItv TJormAon57y7TDcN849xRBTmz4PNVAmEafvPNqo32KzLWXxE4e8KuWxfCnMtqTrJMpPQkgtvzdBMh DFKa4mZ6jEDRGZAUpBOwZQfloLOqdBI1CtQG+C/QiWaW7MUr+8xIX7aWHdOa/ESB3/BI=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWIFd-000KU8-DE; Wed, 06 May 2020 18:30:09 +0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 18:30:09 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200506113009.GD77496@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505202242.c16f07feef5674fc7b6e6fe9@sohara.org> <20200506015935.GA56526@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200506071659.8730d1d68f9d47e4407790f3@sohara.org> <20200506102943.6f68ea4859f8de9661e25895@sohara.org> <20200506103620.f23dcb43f26697795686ee18@sohara.org> <20200506103026.GA74014@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200506120655.20c05800cda62c3887c0f4f9@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200506120655.20c05800cda62c3887c0f4f9@sohara.org> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HDsb4ZlJz4W6t X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=NmUZyfua; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.21)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.19), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 11:30:12 -0000 --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > It looks like CUPS works by using an internal texttopdf converter > and feeding to to pdftops. >=20 > Installing cups-filters (quite a small package) makes this work >=20 > cupsfilter Documents/UTF-8-demo.txt > t.ps >=20 > The resultant file views and prints fine. Dear Steve,=20 You are a wizard! cupsfilter really works. "cupsfilter test.txt | lpr -P ps" printed a fine Cyrillic page for me. It seems that cupsfilter requires CUPS to be installed but it does not have to be running. I can live with that. I can probably use cupsfilter as a filter in printcap combining it with gs, to emulate a line printer. Thank you ever so much! --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJesp/BAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0GfgIAIbg9L3ykgDStDD5AsQ2BJYJ RLl8Mb9De/srMh2pEAexFrhTLMy1RSqxPC//DBqGWUZ4Xc6AmCvgYNNoU2J1mtLF 0+3HOz8qayvT0BLqZrus7J4KEnS6gXviz560O4ZWF0RnRKMVhLsPE5HBbe/iaxW/ 4SQQh2+MGqiNu7Io3eNh7xfp/+K3hheVf41PBNNIc5QYygppYTjl3Mjnl2GMQYv6 FiVfcIQqul7HLfJXHaaO+wEBsLKBUplm6Q5nrVGQinwQ65POgj7uMiFoZI72fTEV RYg8keGJx/6fgLspSi0rvsbhTJT9VzmD0pKCELzEFEPdZcGbdmeb5Yb8rF4R03w= =/RoV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 11:41:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FB92C1508 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stargrave@mail2.stargrave.org) Received: from mail.stargrave.org (mail.stargrave.org [IPv6:2a03:5a00:17:123:50c2:1bff:fea8:dd3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HF6z1jDpz4Wrk for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stargrave@mail2.stargrave.org) Received: from pppoe-static.mosoblast.rt.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f13:aa9::2]) by mail.stargrave.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCACF160FD6 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:41:36 +0300 (MSK) Received: by pppoe-static.mosoblast.rt.ru (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 41E81618BE; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:41:31 +0300 (MSK) Received: by stargrave.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6C5C34A355; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:41:22 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 14:41:22 +0300 From: Sergey Matveev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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CUPS web-interface can be used with Lynx browser in the terminal. I used to do that without problems. -- Sergey Matveev (http://www.stargrave.org/) OpenPGP: CF60 E89A 5923 1E76 E263 6422 AE1A 8109 E498 57EF From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 12:14:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83962C319E for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 12:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HFrG4JWpz4Yxn for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 12:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A20610276A for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:14:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B_9ds39bnPGS for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:14:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from christophs-mbp.fritz.box (p57A1FCC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.161.252.194]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0B78102769 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:14:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: pkg-static update failed - FreeBSD.meta has wrong version 2 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 14:14:04 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HFrG4JWpz4Yxn X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.09)[-0.090,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.60)[0.596,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ipnet: 116.203.0.0/16(2.95), asn: 24940(-1.50), country: DE(-0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[194.252.161.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 12:14:07 -0000 I have a FreeBSD-11.0 installed on a VM and was trying to install some = packages. pkg search already failed with some error saying FreeBSD.meta has wrong = version 2. 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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 12:34:15 -0000 Why redesign something that is not broken (and if redesigned would break many things)? The directory structure Unix (and by extensions Unix-like OS's) was designed to be the most generally useful one out there (designed by evolution) and changing it would break many applications. On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 8:30 AM kindu smith wrote: > Borrowing android and freebsd just to keep it simple: > > /app, application directory, various system-level applications > /boot, boot directory, set up ABI, API, EFI, kernel, modules and other > directories to store complete microkernel boot source code, interface, > EFI partition information, modules. > /cloud, various cloud applications > /data, database, such as key, web page data > /help, operating system manual > /net, network information and server information, etc. > /system , store the file system hierarchy (FHS) directory > /user, user directory, set user account and information > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. 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RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[147.186.163.66.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 12:52:06 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 13:14, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > I have a FreeBSD-11.0 installed on a VM and was trying to install some pa= ckages. > > pkg search already failed with some error saying FreeBSD.meta has wrong v= ersion 2. > > So I decided to upgrade to FreeBSD 12.1 > > This seems to have worked: > > uname -a > > FreeBSD fbsd 12.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE-p3 GENERIC. amd64 > > But trying to update pkg still fails: > > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > Fetching meta.txz: . done > repository FreeBSD has no meta file, using default settings > Fetching packagesite.txz: .......... done > Unable to open created repository FreeBSD > Unable to update repository FreeBSD > Error updating repositories! > y meta /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD.meta has wrong version 2 > pkg-static: repository meta /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD.meta has wrong version 2 > pkg-static: Repository FreeBSD load error: meta cannot be loaded No error= : 0 > > > I=E2=80=99m clueless now. What's your: pkg -vv ? 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IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.42), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.15), asn: 36646(0.92), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[147.186.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[147.186.163.66.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 12:53:55 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 13:16, kindu smith wrote: > > Borrowing android and freebsd just to keep it simple: > > /app, application directory, various system-level applications > /boot, boot directory, set up ABI, API, EFI, kernel, modules and other > directories to store complete microkernel boot source code, interface, > EFI partition information, modules. > /cloud, various cloud applications > /data, database, such as key, web page data > /help, operating system manual > /net, network information and server information, etc. > /system , store the file system hierarchy (FHS) directory > /user, user directory, set user account and information What was you question? In any case, no thanks. -- Ottavio Caruso From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 13:03:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920182C4524 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HGxB3BLBz4cV6 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-qk1-f174.google.com (mail-qk1-f174.google.com [209.85.222.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 220FC1FE60 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-qk1-f174.google.com with SMTP id c64so1716043qkf.12 for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 06:03:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaCWWQ/uEWVuatN2DRUt7b5HMepjfTCo2gkjd6oWqBynmDzVXGs lHjn7SLAcpvS6jxa2jGeA5i3QjwcntbuNYtrA1U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLLiS9o/FY/9qBt3/jb4/Qyw6H0G4Y+bOek+mEMx3Rylr4nHr/qNLSqvjk0JBPaAQaGsAfVfqpXQdP8ttfbP8w= X-Received: by 2002:a37:8c4:: with SMTP id 187mr8433086qki.34.1588770205598; Wed, 06 May 2020 06:03:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kyle Evans Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 08:03:12 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg-static update failed - FreeBSD.meta has wrong version 2 To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 13:03:26 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:14 AM Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > I have a FreeBSD-11.0 installed on a VM and was trying to install some packages. > > pkg search already failed with some error saying FreeBSD.meta has wrong version 2. > > So I decided to upgrade to FreeBSD 12.1 > > This seems to have worked: > > uname -a > > FreeBSD fbsd 12.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE-p3 GENERIC. amd64 > > But trying to update pkg still fails: > > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > Fetching meta.txz: . done > repository FreeBSD has no meta file, using default settings > Fetching packagesite.txz: .......... done > Unable to open created repository FreeBSD > Unable to update repository FreeBSD > Error updating repositories! > y meta /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD.meta has wrong version 2 > pkg-static: repository meta /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD.meta has wrong version 2 > pkg-static: Repository FreeBSD load error: meta cannot be loaded No error: 0 > You need a `pkg bootstrap -f` to re-install pkg and fix this. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 13:12:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCB82C48F8 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HH7f4tj0z4d0x for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) X-Originating-IP: 167.179.139.56 Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (167-179-139-56.a7b38b.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net [167.179.139.56]) (Authenticated sender: ozzmosis@ozzmosis.com) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C92BE0039 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C483451021; Wed, 6 May 2020 23:11:41 +1000 (AEST) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 23:11:41 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redesignde the unix-like system directory Message-ID: <20200506131141.qsu352rfx6n7yjkh@ozzmosis.com> References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20200501 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HH7f4tj0z4d0x X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mail@ozzmosis.com designates 217.70.183.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mail@ozzmosis.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[196.183.70.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.70.183.192/28]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ozzmosis.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.61)[ip: (-5.19), ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-1.59), asn: 29169(-1.28), country: FR(-0.00)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[196.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 13:12:32 -0000 On 2020-05-06 20:16:43, kindu smith (malaizhichun@tom.com) wrote: > Borrowing android and freebsd just to keep it simple: > > /app, application directory, various system-level applications > /boot, boot directory, set up ABI, API, EFI, kernel, modules and other > directories to store complete microkernel boot source code, interface, > EFI partition information, modules. > /cloud, various cloud applications > /data, database, such as key, web page data > /help, operating system manual > /net, network information and server information, etc. > /system , store the file system hierarchy (FHS) directory > /user, user directory, set user account and information The developers of Apple OS X and Haiku/BeOS (to use as examples) have already done this to a certain extent. Both OSes began life with their own directory structure, though, and they stuck with it. The structure wasn't changed years later. An existing established OS like FreeBSD is unlikely to move all its files around just to make things slightly more convenient for new sysadmins. Among other things, reorganising the root directory structure would make existing documentation almost impossible to follow. If you really want to go down that path (pun intended) I suspect you'll need to create your own fork of FreeBSD. The other option is to create a whole bunch of symlinks on an existing system. However I feel that both involve a lot more unnecessary work instead of simply learning where everything is on that system. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 13:19:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6AF2C4D53 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HHHJ13VSz4dPJ for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.113] (unknown [172.58.142.164]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 819A94E684 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:19:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: redesignde the unix-like system directory To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <9a387b42-8da5-2968-24ba-754c3e461252@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 08:19:06 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HHHJ13VSz4dPJ X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[164.142.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[164.142.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.996,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ip: (0.42), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.21), asn: 160(0.17), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 13:19:09 -0000 On 5/6/20 7:53 AM, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 13:16, kindu smith wrote: >> >> Borrowing android and freebsd just to keep it simple: >> >> /app, application directory, various system-level applications >> /boot, boot directory, set up ABI, API, EFI, kernel, modules and other >> directories to store complete microkernel boot source code, interface, >> EFI partition information, modules. >> /cloud, various cloud applications >> /data, database, such as key, web page data >> /help, operating system manual >> /net, network information and server information, etc. >> /system , store the file system hierarchy (FHS) directory >> /user, user directory, set user account and information > > What was you question? In any case, no thanks. > +1 I was struggling with Android garbage once. Really fed up with it. Only the one who never did [say, attempt to de-google android] can bring anything android-like to UNIX table as example. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 14:51:46 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926E22C6B6B for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HKL93FYHz3FSr for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=0bB0pBEc7ljMXbel9h4uKOQK6SuLqm5DicmVApoTeN8=; b=UyEMxBx0c+gh4xy/y7gu/azngX WhD/f7b2/Qm7dTwJCuA5R5Onznc2RpchqLydUXmu2OXrVDj1Az1czQpdPhVnLZlmqDhohF1VGgCiQ u/dpyTzNeKHt5WzXdWuFIRZ48Oq4873K9cQpr7Ui+03eWAcfaJXvinbwjtg9EfEJTj3Q=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWLOh-000LyT-Pw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 21:51:43 +0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 21:51:43 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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There are no command line tools for CUPS administration? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJess7/AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0LpkH/0gE6Vx67OQu01O7Fl+oFLhn 1mJ0ZF8VfQoQqc0ifsJerF1rerPZwdXhKJC3cb3nSN4ozambS1GdZQQi34wpdok6 I7vIfsB9WBLjDM1UNuBD/VEQTLK2CY1innxB6eK/UE3Uj+h1Zm/0IzNzV3g5kVkO 1irHpVIRWvVEGbAyN9CJUoAjz7v1FY0t+SIHF0ubdHSr2CasG+apnqysyKReLTOH 1NMHlhbNMUsRz2qEs7osaIIAErOxI8xndqVRlwnOWvHJnHk8UhMaxG+aWr1475xw q0sGw4llWRuBDdLMz9FYkSyW92xik/v5i6YvY6pEsPGOLpyARvi4slZsatrI0B8= =cjEw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 14:55:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5149F2C6D1D for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HKQj5Hzvz3FhT for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=UDS5q2l7DzMh4VcAWOUtqhdiR7UjNWSsuyWjgEPpoKo=; b=Vc6Ju0+3z6SJAVWXw22IVARV+/ Ag6nckZ9h/Ji+S+f7SA4LopRzzJpq0wz2bMy1OwSrm2rawqqAcfBUccV/Kh6Xcu85Vzg+hA+xRh2K FEpzwexBnxl2MNIEkDInt/ClbmKYMWvIb48SQVQbtvFwrKLg/vRcVYR/AX8t/33BaPx0=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWLSV-000M0m-DU; Wed, 06 May 2020 21:55:39 +0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 21:55:39 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? Message-ID: <20200506145539.GC83950@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505202242.c16f07feef5674fc7b6e6fe9@sohara.org> <20200506015935.GA56526@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200506071659.8730d1d68f9d47e4407790f3@sohara.org> <20200506102943.6f68ea4859f8de9661e25895@sohara.org> <20200506103620.f23dcb43f26697795686ee18@sohara.org> <20200506103026.GA74014@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200506120655.20c05800cda62c3887c0f4f9@sohara.org> <20200506113009.GD77496@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="neYutvxvOLaeuPCA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200506113009.GD77496@admin.sibptus.ru> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HKQj5Hzvz3FhT X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=Vc6Ju0+3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SH_EMAIL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[192.168.1.74]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.22)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.20), country: US(-0.05)]; SH_EMAIL_ZRD(0.00)[192.168.1.74] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 14:55:42 -0000 --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor Sudakov wrote: > > It looks like CUPS works by using an internal texttopdf converter > > and feeding to to pdftops. > >=20 > > Installing cups-filters (quite a small package) makes this work > >=20 > > cupsfilter Documents/UTF-8-demo.txt > t.ps > >=20 > > The resultant file views and prints fine. >=20 > Dear Steve,=20 >=20 > You are a wizard! cupsfilter really works. > "cupsfilter test.txt | lpr -P ps" printed a fine Cyrillic page for me. >=20 > It seems that cupsfilter requires CUPS to be installed but it does not > have to be running. I can live with that. I can probably use cupsfilter > as a filter in printcap combining it with gs, to emulate a line printer. >=20 So, my final working printcap looks this: lp|Brother HL-L2340D series line printer:\ :sh:\ :lp=3D9100@192.168.1.74:\ :if=3D/usr/local/etc/txt2pcl.sh:\ :sd=3D/var/spool/output/lpd1:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: ps|Brother HL-L2340D series PostScript:\ :sh:\ :lp=3D9100@192.168.1.74:\ :if=3D/usr/local/etc/ps2pcl.sh:\ :sd=3D/var/spool/output/lpd2:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: The txt2pcl.sh filter looks this: #!/bin/sh exec 2> /dev/null /usr/local/sbin/cupsfilter -i text/plain - |\ /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -dPARANOIDSAFER -dSAFER \ -sDEVICE=3Dhl1250 -sPAPERSIZE=3Da4 -r600x600 \ -sOutputFile=3D- - && exit 0 Thanks again Polytropon, Steve and all who helped. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJess/rAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0BaYIAKBdDs/y1MJUJimUkDApqnWX neHEQzsJuG4cC6t1IpXAeP8o96UO62GH5FKbsoBner/DNvR+2qnPdKiY3TRDQCeq Ti6Hk2MhkSwTKzhUHFH5V+HDRhyOaWrjlgrsotDi0jT4aQsHVEEkzpH3o8IA5U+a AG7uLTRz5ojoM5Kz+J90fgzcJJfa4K8amxl896AGS1NzLB7YfKlXYmHK22BiJzJa c8Zy4mSltblX+Q7jFxtlkX/VCePEvz2Z6flZ8eG+QgRiHDyU+in7SszJrxV51AQo WMRBBu9pd0HXfmQaUVYjWpuHJp6S9C4hJ2AIfc1bh/L38lJb+5cfrQ0Sn/QGyeU= =mdrU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 15:02:44 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0D52C712E for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004ddb54e.e184bc59f84763e32ec449bc846ec1b1@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HKZq18y2z3GNr for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004ddb54e.e184bc59f84763e32ec449bc846ec1b1@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588777363; x=1591369363; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=jiC0NL7vvc6F5UiN6L3Hq1+vl5JVp14Uw+lf0WSaVE8=; b=JkJQD8GxikX6zK8otOvOdZT+UDpt8qaEWAYCOg5BsTsKoIMehSyL2mCEr1IPtNxC1vonTJEfB3nSL5NnrbMXRTV8+15/H78UCOQgkpzHqff340otKWW5WuUnsH+LhWptwt+XG1R8mvwavvsCoiOux6pwKqUx/YvkeUkMErnA2og= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDRkZGI1NGUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.h.in.socketlabs.com (r3.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 6 May 2020 11:02:33 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 6 May 2020 11:02:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWLZ9-000JcB-CZ; Wed, 06 May 2020 16:02:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 16:02:31 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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There are https://www.cups.org/doc/admin.html for details. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 15:10:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5454B2C73B7 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HKlj4Jhmz3GtM for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MvJjz-1jEolo0prV-00rHcR; Wed, 06 May 2020 17:10:21 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 17:10:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: Kurt Hackenberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? 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Yes. You can use the CLI tools like lpadmin as well as their suite of lpr, lpq, and lprm, combined with cupsenable and cupsaccept for queue control. Maybe (I never tested this!) you can even use a text mode web broser to connect to the config interface at localhost:631. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 15:12:44 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBBD2C76F5 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne@Steinkamm.COM) Received: from mail.steinkamm.com (mail.steinkamm.com [194.127.175.194]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "steinkamm.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HKpM07qzz3HJB for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne@Steinkamm.COM) Received: from trajan.stk.cx (trajan.stk.cx [10.8.8.110]) by basis.steinkamm.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 046FCWST076018 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 6 May 2020 17:12:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne@steinkamm.com) Received: from trajan.stk.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trajan.stk.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 046FCWln070421 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 May 2020 17:12:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne@trajan.stk.cx) Received: (from arne@localhost) by trajan.stk.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 046FCU6D070010; Wed, 6 May 2020 17:12:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 17:12:30 +0200 From: Arne Steinkamm To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, arne@steinkamm.com Subject: Re: redesignde the unix-like system directory Message-ID: <20200506151230.GI82984@trajan.stk.cx> Reply-To: arne@Steinkamm.COM References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <9a387b42-8da5-2968-24ba-754c3e461252@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9a387b42-8da5-2968-24ba-754c3e461252@kicp.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Mutt@Trajan/1.12.1 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on basis.steinkamm.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HKpM07qzz3HJB X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of arne@Steinkamm.COM has no SPF policy when checking 194.127.175.194) smtp.mailfrom=arne@Steinkamm.COM X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.12 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[arne@Steinkamm.COM]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.46)[-0.460,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[Steinkamm.COM]; REPLYTO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.61)[-0.613,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.02)]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[freebsd-questions@Steinkamm.COM,arne@Steinkamm.COM]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34646, ipnet:194.127.175.0/24, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[freebsd-questions@Steinkamm.COM,arne@Steinkamm.COM]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 15:12:44 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 08:19:06AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On 5/6/20 7:53 AM, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 13:16, kindu smith wrote: > >> > >> Borrowing android and freebsd just to keep it simple: > >> > >> /app, application directory, various system-level applications > >> /boot, boot directory, set up ABI, API, EFI, kernel, modules and other > >> directories to store complete microkernel boot source code, interface, > >> EFI partition information, modules. > >> /cloud, various cloud applications > >> /data, database, such as key, web page data > >> /help, operating system manual > >> /net, network information and server information, etc. > >> /system , store the file system hierarchy (FHS) directory > >> /user, user directory, set user account and information > > > > What was you question? In any case, no thanks. > > > > +1 > > I was struggling with Android garbage once. Really fed up with it. Only > the one who never did [say, attempt to de-google android] can bring > anything android-like to UNIX table as example. Looking at a flat layout like this one gives me a feeling, that most people forgot that it's a real bad idea to have a external mounted directory in the root directory... easy way to make a system unresponsive in case of a network problem. I keep the traditional filesystem layout which I'm used for 40 years now and added a /l hierarchy as portal for everything else. .//. Arne -- Arne Steinkamm | Home: Mail: arnesteinkammcom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 15:21:34 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193E22C7DBA for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HL0Y1BY4z3Hvh for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MkHIV-1iqjVC2Kcr-00kcE6; Wed, 06 May 2020 17:21:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 17:21:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: malaizhichun@tom.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redesignde the unix-like system directory Message-Id: <20200506172115.cb3b572b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:GJRmAhDiOh+jmUI/0lletCZTRricyfCF+E/Q7wHck0npiJkhfSy er5359BUCetFngsp/mH9Nm2u5fmNAffB2SgnqaCAK/d6/sdmNNOQet7p7HO2CcV0euj4Vst qYSc9dp/Zh0So/LYxirrsNJxBi8DLk2wpj6NE6Zw/dMCst1AV5sDTHeLQzPMwtqOf6B9Y92 jho1TBXFRk1wEj2vgZsbQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:TUTivSzt4rk=:dI59tv7lhoqK5OeX92YCIJ uM6oUyfpMo1rQh9AU2P5rnt7wIF4mCnjeHSKMZSnp7xnl+HRtwEAwvcr7jshZ1n+seKvvbhj4 RaVzTs5AYAeYFxLHnvX2SjVsYWPSib1mhTr0ZTT4htnzwSeb3u+oe6jcqutB9+5F408WevWb+ DYksFgB6h+2Rvk/rPYK1WQdHNHyYdivConHKfkP/llODsSUO4o3CLc+h3zUfkeNnuOH1zBTSy uT+iDpBdiXcM4i2ezp+KMXnoQP3UfyQ/JW+xTS3H6b2Pt+eFfFXqUS2qWmurIG2OEhXSOj0zz J6BVV8cizQ166oh14xhr3ZVjIkKXuX5TY5YUircAyG7ZwJRFNS8BjtxKrvs2W2UeDR9w2cth5 FuM1GNzRu45qx525rTIvkA0N+4lbHv9vVKnYI5c8guuKDcLnKAcM8f+rBVDzZYV9vPzVWOo5D 3kFGB9MEEl1vfLbCmrKI0Sc79B3gGXmVNeQUZCqCo7+OtmvQKAEuCZM8JdcOZGDD2RICBjJug pUfEQSyzlklU6oq+KSiApXMnL1MiZVaMupRu3rQfwr8M5Nw62FEWPTqyAJMnLyIz2mqGqBL3b 1Y4zhC/KR5QP8YRxjdFY8T9DrACFCNgrkghTP9jNi5ky8GrIaqpw5jyU9Mcqr3eHsL2W4Ty98 3DLXFTPpq8IMqzeEg2b/KvAsKesNdtekOlp5vGbYj42qdBRFVxELs08XcFljWZcvikv/LAIZK Ys+qYVcy0XYQTPnn50I/gHC/1Q/n9OuVPWcMPyi8wwyN69N6qpcdkphVVYkDlBJ6rwPxyDfPg EWGKsnUmec3LsCKcCOhhCuzoLgPNtr9WIVu1Sm54kFQyhBx7ECwak88I76mTLEXSuTuEYFi X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HL0Y1BY4z3Hvh X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.74) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[tom.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[ip: (-0.70), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.32), asn: 8560(2.03), country: DE(-0.02)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.88)[0.883,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.996,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[74.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[74.192.72.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.19]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 15:21:34 -0000 On Wed, 06 May 2020 20:16:43 +0800, kindu smith wrote: > Borrowing android and freebsd just to keep it simple: > > /app, application directory, various system-level applications > /boot, boot directory, set up ABI, API, EFI, kernel, modules and other > directories to store complete microkernel boot source code, interface, > EFI partition information, modules. > /cloud, various cloud applications > /data, database, such as key, web page data > /help, operating system manual > /net, network information and server information, etc. > /system , store the file system hierarchy (FHS) directory > /user, user directory, set user account and information That leaves so many common use cases for FreeBSD with tons of question marks... ;-) See "man 7 hier" for why things are laid out on FreeBSD in a specific, logical, and predictable (!) way. There are certain things that have historical reasons and still bear the respective names, but essentially, those are just a set of termini technici, some of them are universal in the IT area, others are UNIX-specific (such as "core dump" without any core memory, /dev/drum without a drum memory, or the distinction between sequential and direct access...). Furthermore, this just would be about FreeBSD, the operating system. What about the installed application programs? What about programs installed and managed out of the scope of pkg? What about user-specific (user-local) programs? And libraries? Header files? Sources? Where do mounted filesystems go? Backup directories? Or what about the temporary directories? Those are missing altogether. It's of course a great idea if you want to simplify something. However, it's hard to simplify something that is as complex as an operating system. Nowadays, web browsers have reached the same level of complexity like a whole OS, even though they are "just" "simple" application programs. FreeBSD's general organisation keeps all non-OS stuff stored in /usr/local; the directories owned by the OS have a specific purpose which is reflected by their name and location. User data lives in /home, usually one subdirectory per user. Stuff not managed by the OS is often located in /opt, a Solaris-ism borrowed by Linux as well. Again, I really suggest reading the manual page "hier" which describes the directory hierarchy on FreeBSD: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?hier(7) I think you can easily see that the complexity in this design reflects the complexity of the operating system. Keep in mind that a halfway skilled BSD admin can immediately predict where some file will be, and given a specific path, he can tell you what it is for. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 15:23:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40F42C7F25 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HL3G65nHz3JGH for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 046FNltk029823 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:23:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: redesignde the unix-like system directory References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <9a387b42-8da5-2968-24ba-754c3e461252@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200506151230.GI82984@trajan.stk.cx> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:23:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200506151230.GI82984@trajan.stk.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Wed, 06 May 2020 10:23:47 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: 046FNltk029823 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.084, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 0.82, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HL3G65nHz3JGH X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tundra@tundraware.com designates 45.55.60.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tundra@tundraware.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.75)[-0.752,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.941,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tundraware.com]; IP_SCORE(0.46)[ip: (-1.51), ipnet: 45.55.32.0/19(2.69), asn: 14061(1.15), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:45.55.32.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 15:23:55 -0000 On 5/6/20 10:12 AM, Arne Steinkamm wrote: > Looking at a flat layout like this one gives me a feeling, that > most people forgot that it's a real bad idea to have a > external mounted directory in the root directory... easy way to make > a system unresponsive in case of a network problem. > Can you say a bit more about why this is so? 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My apologies if I have already abus= ed any rules or have had sloppy writing, I'll clean up my inquiry and use t= hese lists right. Thanks everybody. Sent from Outlook Mobile ________________________________ From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org on behalf of Shamim Shahriar Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:12:16 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd install On 06/05/2020 00:56, Brandon helsley wrote: > I'm a complete noob, I don't understand any of this. > > There are plenty of tutorials / study-guide / course on various popular web sources -- and i suspect you will be better off starting with one of those. Even though a lot of members on this list offered to spoon feed you so far (I suspect primarily because everyone is bored with the lockdown), there is only so much one can do until they get bored with that as well. I personally do not support and to some extent hate spoon feeding. I sent you a link about how to ask questions the right way, which suggested many different things to do before you ask the question -- obviously that was not your preferred way forward. there are popular sites like LinkedIn Learning, Udemy, and I'm sure there are many more. Look for networking courses (CCNA used to be quite popular and used to teach Networking Fundamentals). Start from the basics, learn the elements of it. Once you have at least the basics right, only then can you have a meaningful exchange with the people on the list. Hope this helps All the best. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 16:14:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AABE2D91C3 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 16:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HM9z1VHSz3MSr for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 16:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 046GEf0J065185 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 18:14:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Intel C242 chipset Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 18:14:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HM9z1VHSz3MSr X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; IP_SCORE(-1.92)[ip: (-8.93), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-4.47), asn: 30722(3.79), country: IT(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 16:14:48 -0000 Hello. Is this chipset supported? Are there any caveat for 11.3? I guess answers are yes and no, but thought it'd be worth asking before buying :) This should be a server with ZRAID on SATA SSDs. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 16:43:20 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE622D9B0F for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HMpv0VmCz3PM1 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 16:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:43:14 -0700 Subject: Re: SSD woes - boot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28BC0AA1-FF58-406A-A5EE-FB0641D2C2B5@kukulies.org> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 09:43:13 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <28BC0AA1-FF58-406A-A5EE-FB0641D2C2B5@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HMpv0VmCz3PM1 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.60)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.42), asn: 6939(-3.35), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 16:43:20 -0000 On 2020-05-06 02:56, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Since yesterday, when I ran smartcontrol against my drives - don’t know whether it has to do with that but I’m mentioning it just FWIW - > my Kingston 240 GB SSD suddenly was no longer visible in the ASRock MB’2 BIOS. (ASRock939A790GMH). > > Strange, isn’t it, that a power fail or unclean shutdown/dismount can cause the drive being no longer visible to the BIOS. > > To test whether it was still alive, I took it out of the system, put it into an ICY box and connected it to a FreeBSD (11) VM I have running under Parallels on my MacbookPro. > > It got recognized on the USB bus and after I ran an fsck against it and put it back into the BIOS, it was recognized again. > > So far so good. But now, due to some misordering in the hard disk numbering scheme in the BIOS I can’t aim at the right partition to boot. > With the old F1/F5 bootload of FreeBSD it always boots the wrong partition . > > Is there a better bootloader available which offers me a larger choice, that eventually finds all bootable partitions on all disks in the system? You a whipping a dead horse: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2020-April/288944.html David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 17:00:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF9B2DA076 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 17:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HNBZ6BfRz3Q6Z for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 17:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MdNwm-1ix2eZ38Yy-00ZKrT; Wed, 06 May 2020 19:00:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 19:00:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSD woes - boot Message-Id: <20200506190019.480bda48.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <28BC0AA1-FF58-406A-A5EE-FB0641D2C2B5@kukulies.org> References: <28BC0AA1-FF58-406A-A5EE-FB0641D2C2B5@kukulies.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1k3p8BlyoYpMObzg1z2GFVWOEYUgVARC7VXUwKBIrDzHBseSsYL ++x+TQcIN4TwvdH809HkysDzc1PbfaC3CoQfYRhJh42tynQSoqeTh4KSuCzjiXd1XNoQmL2 I9W0b1dZJ4R3ma8EQjo1lpqqgm/Hh+QHIW0eyYEqSe5xNawHDFFZ9yR9QTmpRDpPCfcOtyQ vGJkYrtJuAURguMHnhfow== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:/i8nIwRUcN4=:L2SgoD3tt8MLCqlRTasyL0 lAN15lGAs5+qnComr9tYu5cqzHnSPXkx1IPg7530L86uA6V/VFaBb8aE8r6Xyrz2rumdqmqVt 6QuIBXBhYiL5evFTRQPtUNUsjpagdL6FyeQdss7SMu9+edZOgqkegC88WIwpcx5UmJ1T/k1ez 5chlpxgmiaT8+QImVobo4Pg3O3C1ox1QhaiWgsHgI3acSDqqnKz99RyRrMVr6yb3GTQB5Vrin L7fMfnBvALX2XlDUYc0i61XXvXpJRB4+kWvDPZhO0bJJmGKYu2T0wu7FerD5lQ6ZHkXqtsCv+ eLfZuYeuGQ5BPy/m5YBDN4YXrtsEK73KwjSNtGfdereUmPhLC2aTD0HZbNcKqbHB6+/qX3tHF ow+dkUKSmtijPcXt3DXbrIqqU/sOsMQYZfqTZpw8lCiW0ZcL5TqvbA6EQ5qiYQM5ygJponOTx IE18hWJQML5I3o/8jEXOr0xbmJKPP+O0RmaYA/thagR5ae41KnvjVBFX9RCg6jCXslNhuHnj/ +KlfD/0cL7iKZTef2MFuj57xpF6x+ylIrbgWEV06HFQ0qzQiPtdM6RCrxZlnOiLQbV2eX98lL BxakaWZZVFN1wvP1SUiTHtSEuFtQ5KjoUk/jaBiBmbXm3kaMLbsZc+fC0X+kzI9w6OH/VIqbM 9qh1kTLvUvN7R5o/IwdhZf0OZvTWq86stYX1XzmaFiS9AxWUlh2SB9c9vzO9+fdVRSskeT880 v4oo8wlYElaNVfPbCEZcDkmOz2RXNa7XVOo6x6LNakTpLO+3j5w3I8GeZNHpW9oUlmJnrnTAR U/OJul+GeQyxL5518fX5lY8PBVtg8ivaMwxF9GUoeh1eN8LBLtKvm21snsPTbX+FCXie0JT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HNBZ6BfRz3Q6Z X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.78 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.45)[ip: (1.46), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.03), country: DE(-0.02)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.93)[0.928,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.998,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[134.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.19]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 17:00:24 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020 11:56:24 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Since yesterday, when I ran smartcontrol against my drives - don’t > know whether it has to do with that but I’m mentioning it just FWIW - > my Kingston 240 GB SSD suddenly was no longer visible in the ASRock > MB’2 BIOS. (ASRock939A790GMH). > > Strange, isn’t it, that a power fail or unclean shutdown/dismount > can cause the drive being no longer visible to the BIOS. There can be several other reasons. The firmware in modern SSDs is rather complex. A possible "firmware hickup" could lead to what you've been experiencing. It's very hard to diagnose what actually happened, and why. > To test whether it was still alive, I took it out of the system, > put it into an ICY box and connected it to a FreeBSD (11) VM I > have running under Parallels on my MacbookPro. > > It got recognized on the USB bus and after I ran an fsck against > it and put it back into the BIOS, it was recognized again. Many years ago, I had a similar problem with a disk taken from a system: No other computer would recognize it. The BIOS would try to detect it... but no device shows up. I wasn't able to access the disk in any other computer, not even with the USB forensic adapter. So I resurrected the PC it was originally working in, BIOS detect - and the disk was there! So I booted from a live system CD, started a FTP server, and copied what I needed using local FTP (directly connected, no Internet involved). I never found out why the disk would only work in _that_ machine. This is the reason I kept the particular machine, just in case I have to read data from a "strange disk"... ;-) > So far so good. But now, due to some misordering in the hard > disk numbering scheme in the BIOS I can’t aim at the right > partition to boot. > With the old F1/F5 bootload of FreeBSD it always boots the wrong > partition . Boot the system via CD or USB, and add labels. Put the labels instead of the device names. In worst case, use bsdinstall or gpart to re-install the boot manager. > Is there a better bootloader available which offers me a larger > choice, that eventually finds all bootable partitions on all > disks in the system? You will probably be happy with current GRUB; even though it is primarily intended for the use with Linux, it works with many operating systems. It's a very convenient solution for systems that boot BSDs, Linusi, even "Windows". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[205.186.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.56), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.15), asn: 36646(0.92), country: US(-0.05)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[205.186.163.66.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[tom.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 17:22:20 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 16:21, Polytropon wrote: > > FreeBSD's general organisation keeps all non-OS stuff stored > in /usr/local; the directories owned by the OS have a specific > purpose which is reflected by their name and location I'd pretty much want to have all non-base stuff into somewhere else than /usr/local. I like NetBSD installing ports in /usr/pkg (or whenever you want set your $PREFIX to). I'd rather have /usr/local for my own personal software and avoid it messing up with official ports. -- Ottavio Caruso From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 17:41:32 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF2C2DACD4 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 17:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HP633kHgz3xbn for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 17:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M2w4S-1jZgtX3NaG-003K3v; Wed, 06 May 2020 19:41:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 19:41:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ottavio Caruso Cc: malaizhichun@tom.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On a serious note, what I'd change about FreeBSD hier(7) Message-Id: <20200506194118.1135658d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <20200506172115.cb3b572b.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Iw5TazpdzPbA56bPP9kb67YXXiyMpGpsp0fKzpHbfwdcTKiDMvI 5Cue0lMqas9ZJYFHeFGZmPebeZuJxSR8FafAjHOE/nZwTFPn/Ps9eSrWc5uUFBuBNN6+pjc 9j7RObgjArOMF8Gj6L1GbPdUgqFP5vJOM1XmEOuSXgBLTBxbiJbhGcoe6Xlg4JJyu1cR5d4 ErkSvxyKeEN/q3eACvPlg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:L2bOO7hNlpQ=:xJ2xpL6LdXdLHVeZnBlkWn zO2lzaWn8e94+SVTv8ozivrKlxTaFeMH+ZZs/qJamBtbcELKN5n3HU17ZQlLWQiJ2pCj/urNU hj7E3d4zpDq0WaSPhF6BosbQWj7eFaAmUNbNH9+axiFEYxCtVeX/EcKuPH9NVC1qSdBNIC1tD PQSI0I3j2+yIBmENLEYVI8srQrmbbkCF+8lDy3zMyWrLWG1rm0YiHPguW0A90Ea9igTj0oNdv 6l8LNY9+EwkGF+mBiJnsLcomDChkoZmPCVxO7AyYqO7qiI5zmUNq/ZRlv3UBqePETriuQIqQe zQVbAlXXz/NNmOihlnkY+teXaG4SLgU9ouu9geHfnhXKE8wcl6ZDHERA5hgjCvIeVrlcQIq+s NEaGxPqr687R8VUR3TLc4jN5KO9Kl9ePAGThEmVeeqloaN+j5x9f/rTJWTAp1wXxEzfxGeVO9 kS+rcYBUR8olfl/7LhH/7bfUlgvHPuajPhD/bCkYxnlv7wn+IlDeoaHzKSyyUBnft+jQRh2Mp 16ZUWSyfAru7ER0WfBjghep81NuVzuoqsJqs5jkPAQV753Nwl0wvMryAbx3DucIK9IoKTYBt5 sdCPEDfhmhrrGerZTsBVa4AIO4puGc6Gl52b12ugpIVh8fUWCxlhXsrqLZKoGlpJED3jgJAwk B/jqQEobQN5Ixbg5Y8D36iDa3RKpSVT5yZklyB8dUsxMAruTmG5O3ar6ZWzJygwICGjuJMlZc v668t9EWlHcxdeJsiY7NR2nTtZ2U/3RBdzvTYZwJEpRVoJ9nr1Pm0DkI7fhe3CEENivk83wmW N6fW+0wojil4k06aVKKxKeIgzt8u0uPUJnruJ8055UKul5STLxsyqTDEOoD5S7qbZr+tf1+ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HP633kHgz3xbn X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.66 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[16.27.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.89)[0.887,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.995,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[tom.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.38)[ip: (1.10), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.03), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 17:41:32 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020 18:21:59 +0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 16:21, Polytropon wrote: > > > > FreeBSD's general organisation keeps all non-OS stuff stored > > in /usr/local; the directories owned by the OS have a specific > > purpose which is reflected by their name and location > > > I'd pretty much want to have all non-base stuff into somewhere else > than /usr/local. I like NetBSD installing ports in /usr/pkg (or > whenever you want set your $PREFIX to). I'd rather have /usr/local for > my own personal software and avoid it messing up with official ports. That exactly is what lots of people use /opt for. Historically coming from Solaris, it is used to install software that is not maintained by pkg (which defaults to /usr/local). There are several approaches of how /opt should be laid out, and in fact, you can usually combine them. One is to have /opt contain a set of subtrees like /usr/local; another one is to have subdirectories for every custom program, which is either called from its location, or via symlink into /opt/bin which is then set to be in $PATH. Personally, I often have something like this: /opt/bin -> user scripts and symlinks /opt/libexec -> scripts like print filters /opt/src -> local sources /opt/ -> local software installs There are several /opt/ directories, and they do not have much in common: in some, there's a bin/, in others a program/, and in others nothing (the binary is in /opt/, symlinked to /opt/bin if it should be called without full path). If I should need /opt/etc, I would probably add it, but for the few cases I have encountered so far, the programs kept their configuration inside their /opt/, and it was not human-serviceable. This is of course only one out of many possibilities... ;-) The /usr/local, beneath /usr, suggests that the ports (!) installed there have a certain relationship to the OS. This is true. They are maintained via pkg, their presence, dependencies and versions are recorded in databases of the OS. But /opt typically is entirely out of scope, so much that you can actually use a different name for it. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[195.14.219.88]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v131sm4231242wmb.19.2020.05.06.10.51.02 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 06 May 2020 10:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pumpkin.pr0.tips (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E30D414A7; Wed, 6 May 2020 19:51:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 19:51:01 +0200 From: Timo Buhrmester To: Ottavio Caruso Cc: Polytropon , malaizhichun@tom.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On a serious note, what I'd change about FreeBSD hier(7) Message-ID: <20200506175100.kvs2qj7ecy5ovml3@pumpkin.pr0.tips> References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <20200506172115.cb3b572b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HPK50DvYz3yRv X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=aU+0+CS/; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fstdlkml@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::430 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=fstdlkml@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.219.14.195.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.07), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.30), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 17:51:05 -0000 > I'd pretty much want to have all non-base stuff into somewhere else > than /usr/local. I like NetBSD installing ports in /usr/pkg (or > whenever you want set your $PREFIX to). I'd rather have /usr/local for > my own personal software and avoid it messing up with official ports. Same here. I have a single FreeBSD machine in an ocean of NetBSD and Linux so every now and then I'll install something without stopping to recall that I'm on the FreeBSD machine. It hurts every time to undo the installation, especially when what was installed collided with an installed port. Maybe I should write a make wrapper that detects whether I'm in /usr/local and goes Abort, Retry, Ignore?... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 19:26:47 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D408B2DD849 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 19:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [98.173.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HRRT4jqDz44tn for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 19:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from [192.168.100.201] (w520.johnea.net [192.168.100.201]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8A9C5F233A3; Wed, 6 May 2020 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Brother HL-L2340D printer and lpd? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200503171259.GA48627@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505161952.GA34844@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200505185510.00b622e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505180101.GA35751@admin.sibptus.ru> <2c213d5f-8c18-812e-8770-dd5312b1edf7@panix.com> From: freebsd@johnea.net Message-ID: <55f0a9dd-1089-9e80-4e8e-6eb181824864@johnea.net> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 12:26:35 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2c213d5f-8c18-812e-8770-dd5312b1edf7@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US-large Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HRRT4jqDz44tn X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@johnea.net designates 98.173.229.12 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@johnea.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.92 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[johnea.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.03)[0.035,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.22)[-0.223,0]; IP_SCORE(0.41)[asn: 22773(2.11), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22773, ipnet:98.173.228.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 19:26:47 -0000 On 2020-05-05 11:49, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2020-05-05 14:01, Victor Sudakov wrote: > >> A PostScript translator (GhostScript or any other) can be expected to >> "raster" the PS input incorrectly if this input contains encodings it does >> not understand, or glyphs/fonts it is lacking. >> >> I've seen so many problems with Cyrillic in my life, believe me. I've >> seen PDFs with some Cyrillic glyphs replaced by garbage, and much more >> of such weird stuff than I wish to see. > > > It would be nice if you could send plain Unicode to a printer. Ideally, > I guess, either compressed or not -- UTF-8, UTF-16, or UTF-32. I don't > expect it to happen. In support of the "I don't expect it to happen" statement: For many many years, in many many printers, no rendering of any kind is performed inside the printer. These printers expect all input in the form of a binary raster, many times this raster itself is in a proprietary non-standard format. This is regardless of interface type: network, USB, LPT, etc. All rendering of all fonts, embedded images, everything, is performed in a "driver" running on the computer interfaced to the printer. Often these "drivers" are also proprietary binary blobs which only function on a specific operating system. The manufacturer of this specific operating system is now also one of the world's largest source contributors to major public source software projects. After decades spent attempting to marginalize, break, and eliminate free/open source software as a product, and as a development model, now they espouse: "XXXXX’s commitment to openness and collaboration is ingrained in our day-to-day approach to doing business alongside industry partners around the world, including open source communities." Brother, as a printer manufacturer, has been a major adopter of the binary, proprietary model of printer support in this fashion, on this specific operating system. HP, for all it's faults, does support an entire public source framework for utilizing all the features of it's products on free *nix operating systems, e.g.: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/install/manual/distros/freebsd Conclusions: 1) Why, at this point, would anyone be surprised that a printer will not take plain text directly as input? One could conclude that this is an artifact of being able to perform all one's computing within a free *nix environment, thus having no exposure to the broad corporate trends of consumer and enterprise computing products. This conclusion would be evidence of the broad capabilities of free/open *nix environments in the modern world. 2) Given the decades of corporate effort to squash the very mode of cooperation being attempted here on this mailing list, please choose products from companies that provide corporate support for a diverse and open-standards based technical ecosystem. 3) Please, do not allow the cozy *nix world of open technical features and specifications to serve as blinders. These blinders prevent one from being aware of the current efforts, by the worlds most wealthy and powerful corporations, to privatize/pwn the free/open software phenomenon. This threat is real. johnea From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 19:55:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5D42DE179 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 19:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@proulx.com) Received: from havoc.proulx.com (havoc.proulx.com [96.88.95.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HS5722MGz46pZ for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 19:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@proulx.com) Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AE7467 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:55:48 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1588794948; bh=eIeFwfluL0H4GbLl8cEWTEtexGOUccGhQ6VX7NywrT4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=kxCtuuhkY31FXoDOzSZu/2A7kwgPGI7e1cbQvhwbu9RSiO8fDlfegv8T5lEkdeD80 PGz68H/TG4U7Ep8l7k6iK2yeEGX+eI4fSyRSCeYzqw1R1lOngVbStofsRKrg/YuALT JVvGAjQh7iiHZ4xoxrh8a1QEMS1vr+fpUCqwgSqRvTzSiZe2r1wKCFYATVkhWl9e94 4cIuLiHCan+oi0O6ggKlNhIPxQQD94P1Qu7S+ssiQvE/yzF6bDhYRxqRb7t5jGIyQX iAxVvItm+Iw4pcqhZj4ZpEDuyb8GbviwW2E3S76kfhuxgl5f9O855/oEPsFfKZzoWW Bn7yntMtHJCPw== Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF31021150 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C6D672DC8C; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 13:55:47 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: redesignde the unix-like system directory Message-ID: <20200506134457056426360@bob.proulx.com> References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <9a387b42-8da5-2968-24ba-754c3e461252@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200506151230.GI82984@trajan.stk.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HS5722MGz46pZ X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=proulx.com header.s=dkim2048 header.b=kxCtuuhk; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bob@proulx.com designates 96.88.95.61 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bob@proulx.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[proulx.com:s=dkim2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[proulx.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[proulx.com:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:96.64.0.0/11, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.53)[ipnet: 96.64.0.0/11(-1.96), asn: 7922(-0.64), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 19:55:56 -0000 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Arne Steinkamm wrote: > > >> /cloud, various cloud applications > > >> /net, network information and server information, etc. > > Looking at a flat layout like this one gives me a feeling, that > > most people forgot that it's a real bad idea to have a > > external mounted directory in the root directory... easy way to make > > a system unresponsive in case of a network problem. > > Can you say a bit more about why this is so? Assume NFS for simplicity. A mount point at the /nfsmount1 directory. Then run "ls -l /". That needs to stat(2) each entry in / and hits /nfsmount1 with stat(2) which if the nfs server is not responding cannot return an answer to the query. A lot of daemons and cron jobs will assume that the file system root and all entries in there are available and will trigger this problem as a byproduct of their operations. I am just describing "ls -l" as the simplest way to trigger the issue. "NFS server not responding." This can be a reason for a system load of hundreds or thousands as process slots fill up with stuck processes blocked waiting for I/O from an unresponsive server. However in the proposal I think the entries I quoted were for use as a subdirectory and not to have a mount point directly in root. > > I keep the traditional filesystem layout +1. I prefer the traditional file system organization. Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 20:00:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D072DE374 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@proulx.com) Received: from havoc.proulx.com (havoc.proulx.com [96.88.95.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HSB805kBz4771 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@proulx.com) Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60EA3C1 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:00:14 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1588795214; bh=+xuHMjH7jbJXqfM7chmqat1iMtrSG1E36WYV9uHcWP4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=jHOBjQRMfyPd7xovDnERm6Ws7xzHHQfyStztOgsaJ5vqSNSQUQTef0sbPU5mcaluQ t1Rywx/NATeizgQM/8SaeuvZHch+2uA4D5nTWjmEF7Ziu6IMonofhy3ayrJmv4Soq6 SMbQYSgTRJIoOV0Hl3iyCgZvMjCiufCMrimyso2U+/SKXfKk7KhPOh4InqBVlKHE1M IcC6g+fjnGlyWQEsDZtDofTGl5DEy8SJhAp1Im/Kd1kRI/ebvlV27dr824K03KE50u XhJ/yDWvOXVN6U1/Bu6Ylayj2ba4pvFy4GYToboOeKvFob6iIyjOw87PIRQzHwMxBo HD6UGUXdGJMpQ== Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DA2211CE for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:00:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 904B82DC8C; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:00:14 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 14:00:14 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On a serious note, what I'd change about FreeBSD hier(7) Message-ID: <20200506135804224989717@bob.proulx.com> References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <20200506172115.cb3b572b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200506175100.kvs2qj7ecy5ovml3@pumpkin.pr0.tips> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200506175100.kvs2qj7ecy5ovml3@pumpkin.pr0.tips> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HSB805kBz4771 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=proulx.com header.s=dkim2048 header.b=jHOBjQRM; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bob@proulx.com designates 96.88.95.61 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bob@proulx.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[proulx.com:s=dkim2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[proulx.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[proulx.com:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:96.64.0.0/11, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.53)[ipnet: 96.64.0.0/11(-1.96), asn: 7922(-0.64), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:00:16 -0000 Timo Buhrmester wrote: > > I'd pretty much want to have all non-base stuff into somewhere else > > than /usr/local. I like NetBSD installing ports in /usr/pkg (or > > whenever you want set your $PREFIX to). I'd rather have /usr/local for > > my own personal software and avoid it messing up with official ports. > > Same here. I have a single FreeBSD machine in an ocean of NetBSD and > Linux so every now and then I'll install something without stopping to > recall that I'm on the FreeBSD machine. It hurts every time to undo > the installation, especially when what was installed collided with > an installed port. > > Maybe I should write a make wrapper that detects whether I'm in > /usr/local and goes Abort, Retry, Ignore?... Same here too. Except for the old DOS Abort, Retry, Ignore part! Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 20:10:30 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635182DE7D2 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HSPx1DJDz47jg for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.16]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mk0FM-1iqn1426RM-00kQn2; Wed, 06 May 2020 22:10:22 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 22:10:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bob Proulx Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On a serious note, what I'd change about FreeBSD hier(7) Message-Id: <20200506221021.2a4c6e94.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200506135804224989717@bob.proulx.com> References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <20200506172115.cb3b572b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200506175100.kvs2qj7ecy5ovml3@pumpkin.pr0.tips> <20200506135804224989717@bob.proulx.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:trgPOAXKErAU0jcOpIX52DiDWkaN6h8cYmX8cANxYiCe1eqMBgb EQznSbXesUCkpkvqi3a90JRWCokeVui6JiipgH50LPfAECZV6Xcj2oDq/Qpoltp7db/Ep2n NBSwXdiy5A7w+hTmcB2OtNcTNGKPo+g9f0ITBsBKSUeli/Dp9MBph3VpaHJD+B1O11gI6zg NpEZCbENajaNheT0wvGLg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:TDt+LVFs6j0=:ZTOnu8LdApB9wmZ3oKU1fI qWzeQImFqzJfISAGNlg0cXn9idtrMwRnbqCDLU2ZA9gqLFlOofkU/vYmhqOyOrLykH10en8vG fj13mBSgSkkmJKDDzjld5WY4qUvtNvXBVYAakMd9uy7ov0MT133iFU1LIHf7xLYjkpaw8w3NV piu8MRIhQtEcSxx1p8gBJzbblh9S2fpPPHs31f0S+C7La7uh6NTbYCK+AtokZvKqjex1o4iWj zsQ2pJra7fKOZD81d9lmQLu0yDG60ZAmRrT29m+rOiyOoqN7gWB2/q4gKbsufIhALNv22mpUR PCgnvWIxEWgXFrU4I415HHYCF1ntPgypb2/rYfoJL7W+u7ozJRhc0BVttWpa6fCzTLgW8Rix+ AUWK0qXDOFgR9Xyj6eUI5678NgwLmuLdzemsQMBpT0mezEf9suW6qUovT4PXXnpxr2MK9daOB AJAW8DruGYtnBfbEDUX+W3NTf9cmjPRC9cKRkfpWmqk+WFuGZ2TqnxGIHfMg5iYMXNSPSRrwE Ou26mWzTI5VOaoFNdVk75TZv+111X6XjmUGPNQ71Ec1gXf4Fj/GLkWVwFsJs1aXEIL9NnNe+e G8GGyJoHTlNiHzwfgXPKRpE7e+md7Yom+lIlLOGtsIPPcV/7z6p5qilU2hZVlFqvupYPagDLn oisRjdpMX4UfxVp7021Qf24vGN98mcQaSMn/PJSzrnjeOSdUvfs7QLcxo+L5uQx/hNRDHsmeF KXYhIg2YXGf7tdJXzGC9Y8VEvesAbIdYk1iN42zfIpeW5GY1KwPDydTqxxFWWhD8uUgdj9Aad Nl6Vp6z8YqCP/uSQujBVdAOR0dfeNcWJTVnOiF+/LUEk2CFcGcCGTR4v3eV178z5iAJ3QID X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HSPx1DJDz47jg X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.41 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[16.27.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.77)[0.772,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.988,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.25)[ip: (0.45), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.20), asn: 8560(2.02), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:10:30 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020 14:00:14 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Timo Buhrmester wrote: > > > I'd pretty much want to have all non-base stuff into somewhere else > > > than /usr/local. I like NetBSD installing ports in /usr/pkg (or > > > whenever you want set your $PREFIX to). I'd rather have /usr/local for > > > my own personal software and avoid it messing up with official ports. > > > > Same here. I have a single FreeBSD machine in an ocean of NetBSD and > > Linux so every now and then I'll install something without stopping to > > recall that I'm on the FreeBSD machine. It hurts every time to undo > > the installation, especially when what was installed collided with > > an installed port. > > > > Maybe I should write a make wrapper that detects whether I'm in > > /usr/local and goes Abort, Retry, Ignore?... > > Same here too. Except for the old DOS Abort, Retry, Ignore part! So how about YES / NO / ALL instead? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 20:19:25 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845D92DEC75 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HScD2Jszz48Hx for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.113] (unknown [172.58.142.164]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B08C4E65F for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 15:19:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: redesignde the unix-like system directory To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <9a387b42-8da5-2968-24ba-754c3e461252@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200506151230.GI82984@trajan.stk.cx> <20200506134457056426360@bob.proulx.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <3f899735-1ed2-105c-1483-0450b8dcc7a3@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 15:19:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200506134457056426360@bob.proulx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HScD2Jszz48Hx X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[164.142.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[164.142.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ip: (0.41), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.21), asn: 160(0.16), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:19:25 -0000 On 5/6/20 2:55 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> Arne Steinkamm wrote: >>>>> /cloud, various cloud applications >>>>> /net, network information and server information, etc. >>> Looking at a flat layout like this one gives me a feeling, that >>> most people forgot that it's a real bad idea to have a >>> external mounted directory in the root directory... easy way to make >>> a system unresponsive in case of a network problem. >> >> Can you say a bit more about why this is so? > > Assume NFS for simplicity. A mount point at the /nfsmount1 directory. > Then run "ls -l /". That needs to stat(2) each entry in / and hits > /nfsmount1 Do people really do that? I kind of since forever use automounter or similar, net mounts are in subdirectories of /net and - this is what _I_ do, not elegant thing, but convenient for my users - I make directories in / named after names of cross mounted machines, and put there symlinks to where automounter will mount exported from these machines directories, like /machine1name/data1 --> ../mnt/machine1name/data1 Never had trouble you describe, and nicety of automounter is "nothing gets hang": once NFS server doesn't respond, mounts are unmounted seamlessly by automounter. And are mounted again when someone tries to access them and server is accessible. Valeri > with stat(2) which if the nfs server is not responding > cannot return an answer to the query. A lot of daemons and cron jobs > will assume that the file system root and all entries in there are > available and will trigger this problem as a byproduct of their > operations. I am just describing "ls -l" as the simplest way to > trigger the issue. "NFS server not responding." This can be a reason > for a system load of hundreds or thousands as process slots fill up > with stuck processes blocked waiting for I/O from an unresponsive server. > > However in the proposal I think the entries I quoted were for use as a > subdirectory and not to have a mount point directly in root. > >>> I keep the traditional filesystem layout > > +1. 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R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.39), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:31:40 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:19 PM Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 5/6/20 2:55 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> Arne Steinkamm wrote: > >>>>> /cloud, various cloud applications > >>>>> /net, network information and server information, etc. > >>> Looking at a flat layout like this one gives me a feeling, that > >>> most people forgot that it's a real bad idea to have a > >>> external mounted directory in the root directory... easy way to make > >>> a system unresponsive in case of a network problem. > >> > >> Can you say a bit more about why this is so? > > > > Assume NFS for simplicity. A mount point at the /nfsmount1 directory. > > Then run "ls -l /". That needs to stat(2) each entry in / and hits > > /nfsmount1 > > Do people really do that? I kind of since forever use automounter or > similar, net mounts are in subdirectories of > > /net > > Yes all the time some programs even force it if you use them NFS mounted such as devel/aegis if you want to have a centeral collection of baseline for all developers to access. Using /net in many situations (most I have run into) is the *WEIRD* way not the mounting to non-/net. Luckily all such programs I know of allow/encourage you not to do a direct mount on root for reasons discussed, > > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 20:45:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497242DF4C0 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004e6d9f2.4cd89bebc960d7692bc9e67b31443cf2@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HTBg0TT6z49vW for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10004e6d9f2.4cd89bebc960d7692bc9e67b31443cf2@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588797947; x=1591389947; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=cF1UE0I77L7w6pghB4qWF2cC9fu86LsxxrtIiaFHpSc=; b=ukY1qqh/Ly9M4pxLPVQFVG5ym2GaS4qwA9M5zol2BRW79E3QLGfa+6ItXr3DAyGPsXzhFBAgLgtENxSUbIsVSXrdRO9bIFsYDDDvnRDY7bgN44corRgG52nY/wPo2Wvu5/Ezqgcx6vKYxYZDmeTsWSDqmbDa04l59wGHuyHfi5c= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDRlNmQ5ZjIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 6 May 2020 16:45:42 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 6 May 2020 16:45:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jWQvE-000Lsb-Nc; Wed, 06 May 2020 21:45:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 21:45:40 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On a serious note, what I'd change about FreeBSD hier(7) Message-Id: <20200506214540.247500820cf8701968ac01c9@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <20200506172115.cb3b572b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HTBg0TT6z49vW X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=ukY1qqh/; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c10004e6d9f2.4cd89bebc960d7692bc9e67b31443cf2@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c10004e6d9f2.4cd89bebc960d7692bc9e67b31443cf2@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.65 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; IP_SCORE(0.02)[ip: (-0.20), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.28), asn: 7381(0.08), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10004e6d9f2.4cd89bebc960d7692bc9e67b31443cf2@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10004e6d9f2.4cd89bebc960d7692bc9e67b31443cf2@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[yahoo.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:45:48 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020 18:21:59 +0100 Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 16:21, Polytropon wrote: > > > > FreeBSD's general organisation keeps all non-OS stuff stored > > in /usr/local; the directories owned by the OS have a specific > > purpose which is reflected by their name and location > > > I'd pretty much want to have all non-base stuff into somewhere else > than /usr/local. Why ? /usr/local is explicitly for non-base stuff so what would go in there ? > I like NetBSD installing ports in /usr/pkg (or > whenever you want set your $PREFIX to). I'd rather have /usr/local for > my own personal software and avoid it messing up with official ports. Why fight the system when you could just have /usr/personal or /site or /opt or something for your own stuff without changing existing conventions. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 22:41:37 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111B82E184D for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 22:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne@Steinkamm.COM) Received: from mail.steinkamm.com (mail.steinkamm.com [194.127.175.194]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "steinkamm.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HWmH4Lc6z4JWZ for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 22:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne@Steinkamm.COM) Received: from trajan.stk.cx (trajan.stk.cx [10.8.8.110]) by basis.steinkamm.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 046MfUSI081096 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 7 May 2020 00:41:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne@steinkamm.com) Received: from trajan.stk.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trajan.stk.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 046MfUhm021766 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 May 2020 00:41:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne@trajan.stk.cx) Received: (from arne@localhost) by trajan.stk.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 046MfQR6021692; Thu, 7 May 2020 00:41:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne) Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 00:41:26 +0200 From: Arne Steinkamm To: Bob Proulx Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, arne@steinkamm.com Subject: Re: redesignde the unix-like system directory Message-ID: <20200506224126.GJ82984@trajan.stk.cx> Reply-To: arne@Steinkamm.COM References: <83788746a7d8a802d8af4b582e00827166febd1a.camel@tom.com> <9a387b42-8da5-2968-24ba-754c3e461252@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200506151230.GI82984@trajan.stk.cx> <20200506134457056426360@bob.proulx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200506134457056426360@bob.proulx.com> User-Agent: Mutt@Trajan/1.12.1 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on basis.steinkamm.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HWmH4Lc6z4JWZ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of arne@Steinkamm.COM has no SPF policy when checking 194.127.175.194) smtp.mailfrom=arne@Steinkamm.COM X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[arne@Steinkamm.COM]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.57)[-0.573,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[Steinkamm.COM]; REPLYTO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.54)[-0.537,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.02)]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[freebsd-questions@Steinkamm.COM,arne@Steinkamm.COM]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34646, ipnet:194.127.175.0/24, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[freebsd-questions@Steinkamm.COM,arne@Steinkamm.COM]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 22:41:37 -0000 On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 01:55:47PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > Arne Steinkamm wrote: > > > >> /cloud, various cloud applications > > > >> /net, network information and server information, etc. > > > Looking at a flat layout like this one gives me a feeling, that > > > most people forgot that it's a real bad idea to have a > > > external mounted directory in the root directory... easy way to make > > > a system unresponsive in case of a network problem. > > > > Can you say a bit more about why this is so? > > Assume NFS for simplicity. A mount point at the /nfsmount1 directory. > Then run "ls -l /". That needs to stat(2) each entry in / and hits > /nfsmount1 with stat(2) which if the nfs server is not responding > cannot return an answer to the query. A lot of daemons and cron jobs > will assume that the file system root and all entries in there are > available and will trigger this problem as a byproduct of their > operations. I am just describing "ls -l" as the simplest way to > trigger the issue. "NFS server not responding." This can be a reason > for a system load of hundreds or thousands as process slots fill up > with stuck processes blocked waiting for I/O from an unresponsive server. Exact and thanks to answer the question. I saw this in a productive environment once and was really impressed that "professional services" lack the knowledge how filesystem traversal in a *ix environment works. Last time I was working with kernel sources (many years ago) namei(9) made a traversal on each call starting from the filesystems root inode. So a hanging nfs mount directly in a filesystems root is a real show stopper. FreeBSD is a real Unix with a history back to edition 6 at Bell Labs. So virtually all books ever written about Unix in the last 48 years are helpfull. There are many (!) real good books which do not have "Linux" or "FreeBSD" in their name which are more than worth to be read about basis system administration concepts. And to make the loop back to the topic: You need more than valid reasons to change hier(7) and break this heritage! Copying Android seems not to be a valid reason in this context. .//. Arne -- Arne Steinkamm | Home: Mail: arnesteinkammcom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 22:52:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6832E1CAA for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 22:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-wm1-x32e.google.com (mail-wm1-x32e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HX0K6nRVz4KJ3 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 22:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-wm1-x32e.google.com with SMTP id u16so4540291wmc.5 for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 15:52:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lF1JKsRcISbGmqB2fYCYEXq+kAeh4iLEDRK+2gLq4BY=; b=Y+wR55O48iel3BfjPSNyy2x7SBHuKkLir4REzJvG4NkiEM01IXBEc6JE+rp6+djuS/ +NkjKb5GOl3D+99hQzfNF13/4w1PCtncUNyeM7IjDt55Gq4SREVEHdeivLm4eR5nmf9b F5q3bykQ5rD+bDLqELbMedLKve491+6JXEMmhP7c0FeduJg3yh+f19/RJisepmOLagol MI7a5pxzKh7GQ6XiF+MjsyJNJbwg6u1+quqm4/MvjF+LgNsduC+7xE3kq74fZ0V2ESUT MeuG3+jf/OlpsPPRN3eNvi/KqcGaLNkZD0xQZLVoAMSXTHxI9NjQuFDO8TYyVTOfbGdd Xrgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lF1JKsRcISbGmqB2fYCYEXq+kAeh4iLEDRK+2gLq4BY=; b=W+rBajjkCvDvw3E/7LcEbX5kMlDGJ0cI3ggYyQfKSKDxeV6hKWpJ4NM20bTt4HHjAY m0LeyEnkYW6+7U2aPV2PusASgWN1y5blGDoi4nm+6X28poU/SFMIF6OiYYRRPQ0XfAHa cXgOHE7NqXBoE2kErnck/qzM4nJaY+MKWiKFL+BVnpmBhFSq54Nywl8wSAu5gv/5IbLm BDsrKt1H2p6Idzyub6fsz0rwMTDfiFOM9xi6ONXWQcBAGT9mY5DuDQhqSl9IRahc3lws y+wJu/pzgJ692vPUPCKXULHJafsegkphAQerDO+IfGMzqofBpo7w4uPj5sZevtjlvaEm b5+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaniwZhNGj7N9NgUqn2NThrS/iu1xHBi/NMUDCBBtP8rMeud/ml 8xXumboAvzLsOJmcb5BeZiaD2NruAfpe66yMjmZNKA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypL2J5HkeS/6rVKMvNEgqnYMmClZ/3yHzKuLbluDbLb1K3dH7rtx1JL53YM+GuiL7zNULde0SHFG51OYDpxm9qY= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7c13:: with SMTP id x19mr6843625wmc.124.1588805519780; Wed, 06 May 2020 15:51:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 00:51:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg-static update failed - FreeBSD.meta has wrong version 2 To: Kyle Evans Cc: Christoph Kukulies , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HX0K6nRVz4KJ3 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=Y+wR55O4; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::32e) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.38)[ip: (-9.14), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.30), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 22:52:03 -0000 On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:03 PM Kyle Evans wrote: > You need a `pkg bootstrap -f` to re-install pkg and fix this. I also had this issue recently after upgrading one of my servers from 12.0 to 12.1. I did install pkg directly from a repository providing full url to the package but this bootstrap seems to be very nice shortcut. Would that be possible to add this bootstrap hint after upgrade to pkg help (bootstrap command is not in pkg help) and pkg man? That would save some time and searching :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 6 23:30:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925AC2E279F for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 23:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-wr1-x433.google.com (mail-wr1-x433.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::433]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49HXrH2nlTz4MD4 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 23:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-wr1-x433.google.com with SMTP id z8so4162685wrw.3 for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 16:30:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YvtwOL1XDiItZlwiQn/A+xzFZeM6d1K4jmY+Za1Kayo=; b=jAdi2AMPIETtqxd3jnVtISgYIL8vhk0KztnJEo9CEQG3MnJfCZUqETvzE5qJFs/O0z HyLTHC7QUdnvQpkpnkM1Ij8XTJg2querHGuGHqmIefd/9wp28YYXezo4i8sbLYikhorq J7zjWP5yze30ZMgz2Rqvs/CXzzlTBp5HT6qEshgljxtp3aV7Y1/9RVYYpqtPdAU5+++W Q8YYEgKiy5/QQtpnBUy8CMQsrL+AMUr+KAFmoZxqKK5T4cSZ0316Ko3xjnUdfMrirJ4o hQBm+rm54SesumLqb0V+NXJlakGke1xHF6Q0M2qI1QxIVkDTo6tFj4SBbgbklxgDxLM7 6UCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YvtwOL1XDiItZlwiQn/A+xzFZeM6d1K4jmY+Za1Kayo=; b=eS0UqfEPZA71j5EgQ9ynR794d4WTNRDY8oe0X81djR3288QcmoI34xliwb5tPtrH44 FNTf0I8pR8VQd2xb+LI1hKC5xttwrzTotZp8cs/RdXy9pnzuvUgKM4lKrgREH82qb/U4 TkdH4diwmBvZkApTZZOllZsv1Qs5/L1+dfpfBfhHWDo7b0M6cxJwfgFWF31XgpHqfdWV 5cped9sfT9uGlNJFyfme5FLiQqAPtrU2UVYFJgcAMULNZ+1roDBZWjq3/ZjRNRxgZTHB ZkDlI5oZx5KJ26VnjLFFdGdGSq94GzLI4Bj6W2v9V3HMPrAMyuUyaiFlikEyDvdC680f y9FQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZpy9CiThowwnkCF6Mrx4/swHbxyk0coGpPzHIr8h92QKDvpLZh 1SqeKQu3LxG9489vjyOvCU02Tckgf1MMZw9bkNgEEK7M X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKaui9PLRw8Ztfsdg0xXhYNH/kNkYlprkVa4bYpuLdHdaiwNF+KjrxXXQSx00lkSdO82HbkvUd2NeuckduGrSA= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f282:: with SMTP id k2mr11456833wro.133.1588807805768; Wed, 06 May 2020 16:30:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <28BC0AA1-FF58-406A-A5EE-FB0641D2C2B5@kukulies.org> <20200506190019.480bda48.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200506190019.480bda48.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 01:29:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SSD woes - boot To: Polytropon Cc: Christoph Kukulies , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49HXrH2nlTz4MD4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=jAdi2AMP; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::433) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.37)[ip: (-9.07), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.30), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 23:30:08 -0000 =C5=9Br., 6 maj 2020, 19:00 u=C5=BCytkownik Polytropon napisa=C5=82: > Many years ago, I had a similar problem with a disk taken from a > system: No other computer would recognize it. The BIOS would try > to detect it... but no device shows up. I wasn't able to access > the disk in any other computer, not even with the USB forensic > adapter. So I resurrected the PC it was originally working in, > BIOS detect - and the disk was there! So I booted from a live > system CD, started a FTP server, and copied what I needed using > local FTP (directly connected, no Internet involved). > Never experienced situation like this for a PC except HD was taken out of some custom embedded system (STB) with disk password protection at firmware level. It was only working with that particular setup that probably had some keys sent over special command during bus initialization. On all other machines it was no-disk-at-all but it got spin with power up. Did not have SATA sniffer so I did not investigate further :-) Also on one of my machines there is a disk password protection in bios that warned me that after I enable this option disk will not work with any other computer. I did not enter any password by hand but that may be standard random disk password generated by the bios. Did not try to disable that setting yet :-) The machine is Panasonic Toughbook. Smells like a firmware disk password to me..? Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 7 04:10:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735752EBED7 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 04:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@anatoli.ws) Received: from out-mx.anatoli.ws (out-mx.anatoli.ws [177.54.157.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "out-mx.anatoli.ws", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Hg421bbTz4mF1 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 04:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@anatoli.ws) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by out-mx.oprbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A2241E001A7 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 04:10:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=anatoli.ws; s=vnptcm0lqn; t=1588824637; bh=kcqg0ojOmI957jKo1pJpksxj+4Ic51F/ev0Ne0tkZ+M=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=gfhaVJoGcBUsFCxsumFHO/JMgR/z7ntalkcIUG2EXMrwlwTwYIHfzNKk1HrWNjN7b VIr1XQObWgRlUrVBeMQHtMlBijRLQOXvdshyF18jzEAWLtv5RnHnAo1+hQVusAdm/U vn1U2p7Bso7yRFZMzZtaZnxiVH2BqqdErX2DC6fygCR+XfPSsVPiV2Kpo4NasPmVrS uXAnHq8gMuIfDb1gW1B4WCpTDVGa8vsu5f+UNDcBhS+jocJFDmKUFr9/VhbN8+TA3f 3TxGk/4pJIiD7nH6dHwE4fkcbUmyT8S9QqIN1DTXOH40GpADgCICxF+RtC/XCV00CO kajum6HlBnlmw== Subject: Re: SSD woes - boot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28BC0AA1-FF58-406A-A5EE-FB0641D2C2B5@kukulies.org> From: Anatoli Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 01:10:35 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Hg421bbTz4mF1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=anatoli.ws header.s=vnptcm0lqn header.b=gfhaVJoG; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=anatoli.ws; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of me@anatoli.ws designates 177.54.157.124 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=me@anatoli.ws X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:out-mx.anatoli.ws]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[anatoli.ws:~]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[anatoli.ws,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[124.157.54.177.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[anatoli.ws:s=vnptcm0lqn]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.53)[ip: (-9.07), asn: 262287(-3.63), country: BR(0.07)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:262287, ipnet:177.54.157.0/24, country:BR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 04:10:43 -0000 > You a whipping a dead horse: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2020-April/288944.html > (Linux implements PARTUUID's for the BIOS/MBR case [1]. I have been > unable to figure out how to do this on FreeBSD.) To have a FreeBSD equivalent to linux UUID partition identifiers in /etc/fstab, set a label for a partition (gpart for GPT, glabel for MBR), `X` is the partition number as reported by `gpart show`. gpart modify -i X -l