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Date:      Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:08:48 +0200
From:      Paul Schenkeveld <fb-arch@psconsult.nl>
To:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Things to remove from /rescue
Message-ID:  <20030726130847.GA42503@psconsult.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20030724185933.GC85582@dragon.nuxi.com>
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On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:59:33AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:25:32PM -0400, Mike Makonnen wrote:
> > > b) want to maintain network security while accessing that resource.
> > 
> > What security? There are no network services running in single-user,
> > so what is there to secure?
> 
> I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing things this way.

I'm not that familiar with -current (still running -stable) but
will using /etc/rc.d to initialize your network also enable
ipforwarding?  In other words, although I'm trying to rescue
my firewall, will it act as an open router if /etc/rc.d/*
enable forwarding and I can only use a sysctl to open up ipfw
so I can reach a remote tape drive?

> > I won't complain if it's kept, but I would prefer just the bare minimum
> > be kept in /rescue. Once you go beyond that and into "well s/he might
> > need..." territory then we might as well throw in everything in the
> > base system. IMO, /rescue should be the absolute essentials _only_.
> > Instead of theorizing reasons why someone might need ipfw and friends,
> > why don't we wait until we get a bug report about a specific situation
> > in which it was needed before we put it back in.
> 
> Thank you for expressing this so well.  I do think we should wait for
> PR's telling real experiences rather than theorizing so much in the "what
> if"'s.
>  
> > Also, while you're at it, David, I think you can get rid of rcorder
> > as well.  I don't know why one would need it to fix a hosed root,
> > and besides it's staticaly linked to begin with.
> 
> Will do! :-)

Paul Schenkeveld


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