From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 21 12:37:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90828106566B for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [66.92.79.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B728FC08 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8LCbkil017365; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:37:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8LCbkxV017364; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:37:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200909211237.n8LCbkxV017364@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> To: ed@80386.nl X-Newsgroups: mit.lcs.mail.freebsd-arch In-Reply-To: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> Organization: None X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:37:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmux(1) in base X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:37:53 -0000 In article <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl>, Ed Schouten writes: >At the DevSummit in Cambridge we briefly discussed including tmux(1) in >the base system. We recently had window(1) there, but unfortunately >window(1) was a very limited tool, compared to tools like screen(1) and >tmux(1). Why tmux(1) and not screen(1)? Well, simple. The first has a >better license and very active maintenance. Can you explain why any such utility needs to be in the base system? I'm not seeing it. We have enough things in the base that most users will never use as it is. -GAWollman