Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:55:09 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff <freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl> To: Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do hackers drive? Message-ID: <20031123035509.GG532@dds.nl> In-Reply-To: <3FA8EFA1.7020507@potentialtech.com> References: <20031104192215.GA848@online.fr> <xzp7k2frbm8.fsf@dwp.des.no> <3FA8382F.50204@potentialtech.com> <xzpy8uvp7c8.fsf@dwp.des.no> <3FA8EFA1.7020507@potentialtech.com>
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On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 07:40:01AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > >Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> writes: > > > >>Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > >> > >>>Bicycle-friendly, but lethal for pedestrians. Dutch cyclists treat > >>>pedestrians with the same contempt as drivers to cyclists in most > >>>other countries... > >> > >>Are you serious? That doesn't sound possible [...] I would > >>think there is a certain amount of self-preservation that prevents > >>cyclists from colliding with pedestrians. > > > >That doesn't mean they *respect* pedestrians. They generally treat > >pedestrians like vermin invading their right-of-way (at least that's > >what it felt like in Delft, though Amsterdam - or the parts of > >Amsterdam I've been in - isn't nearly as bad) Most of the time thing aren't so bad. > Well, that I can understand. It follow what I said about many cyclists > not obeying the rules of the road. Professional cyclists Whats a professional cyclist? Here every one has at least one bike. Children as young as 6 ride then. And by the time there 12 there riding one there own to a school in a neerby city. > I guess the general rule might be that the fast generally disrespect > the slower. The same is true for heavy vs ligth. In the Netherlands it now a rule that when a car comes in to a collision with a biker, the driver of the car is wrong unleass there is proof otherwise. The number of collision has gone drasticaly down since then. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/
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