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Date:      Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:45:34 -0800 (PST)
From:      Jean-Mark Dupoux <jmdupx@yahoo.com>
To:        leegold <leegold@operamail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: vesa bus x driver ?
Message-ID:  <20020124104534.97108.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <3C5512F3@operamail.com>

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Hello Lee,

If you're  using the VGA  X-server then im pretty sure
16  means just  16 colors - I always  assumed it was
also  maximum screen size of  640 x 480, which is what
I meant to be asking in my last post :

<< which screen resolution>>


Jean-Mark
jmdupx_@_yahoo.com

--- leegold <leegold@operamail.com> wrote:
> >===== Original Message From jmdupx@yahoo.com =====
> >yep, sounds like the only thing i didnt  try with
> my card, but didnt
> >like the idea of  running in just 16 colours on
> that system
> 
> I think the 16 refers for 16 bit color?
> I think I get 256 colors.
> 
> Standby, I will find out what my settings are
> tomorrow.
> Since you have 2 meg video ram you probably could
> get more 
> colors by using the 24 bit mode. I used XF86Setup to
> configure X.
> 
> I'll have to look at some jpegs and see how good/bad
> it really is.
> 
> Lee
> 
> >
> >up to what resolution can you get yours to display
> now?
> >
> >Jean-Mark
> >jmdupx_@_yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >On 23 Jan 2002, at 15:56, leegold wrote:
> >
> >> Mine is an onboard chip in an IBM 486 value point
> pc.
> >> w/1 meg video ram.
> >>
> >> But, I got X up and running.
> >>
> >> I used "generic VGA" for the card/chip
> >> and VGA - the barest bones config. for the
> >> monitor, and I think "16" for the color depth
> >> (one up from the lowest) and you know -
> >> I got a simple but nifty x-windows.
> >>
> >> I think they key was to select generic VGA for
> the card.
> >> I'm not getting all the perfomance I can get out
> of the
> >> chip but Hey, I'm not using this thing for CAD to
> design
> >> suspension bridges. Not flashy but seems OK.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Lee G
> >>
> >>
> >> >===== Original Message From jmdupx@yahoo.com
> =====
> >> >believe it or not, I was trying to set up a near
>  identical card on a
> >> >machine last month, and i think you might be in
> for a rough time with
> >> >it
> >> >
> >> >first, you need to run XFconfig anyhow, to
> calibrate refresh rates
> >> >and so on, and you can ignore that the card is
> vesa or any other kind
> >> >of connector, since it is just the chipset that
> matters, which means
> >> >just picking the right Xserver - the one I tried
> to load and
> >> >configure for it in XFconfig was  s3vga or
> similar, which is the
> >> >recommended one for this chip
> >> >
> >> >i have to warn you not to hold out much hope
> though, as despite
> >> >much effort when i tried to set up mine the card
> would have none of
> >> >it
> >> >
> >> >my card was also  vesa,  s3-805  chipset with
> 2mb  on-board
> >> >RAM,  and it worked  just fine as  a  16 colour
> card in Dos or
> >> >Windoze  or  (Suse) Linux which I tried it with
> to begin with, but no
> >> >matter how much I played around with  jumpers on
> the card (which I
> >> >knew were right anyhow from an old manual),  or
> with vesa  TSR's
> >> >which I found on some websites  or other stuff
> to help get the card
> >> >running I never once got xfconfig86  to load a
> server on it
> >> >
> >> >I became convinced the problem was due to some
> of the refresh
> >> >rate  control circuitry, based on the fact that
> I also have some DOS
> >> >apps for setting up specific  graphics modes,
> and this software works
> >> >great  with just about every other card I've 
> ever setup (believe me,
> >> >quite a few),  and on the  S3-805 it would lock
> up instantly, no
> >> >matter what display mode I was trying to
> configure -
> >> > exactly the same  behavior as in XFconfig,
> which would not accept a
> >> > single display mode to test or adjust - it just
> locked the whole PC
> >> >
> >> >I know the card was working  at a basic level, i
> had all the possible
> >> >information I could want about  chipset, ramdac,
> clock chips etc and
> >> >all the memory (detachable chips) was tested ok
> on another card too,
> >> >so in the end I just figured it was something in
> the design of the
> >> >card itself
> >> >
> >> >i finally fitted a trident 9440 in the machine
> instead
> >> >
> >> >let me know if you could use the jumper layouts
> if you dont know
> >> >yours and think it could help
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Jean-Mark
> >> >jmdupx_@_yahoo.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 22 Jan 2002, at 19:31, leegold wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How the heck do I use a "vesa bus driver" for
> x-windows.
> >> >> I have an old 486 w/an s3 805 video chip and
> it's
> >> >> become a challange now to get it to run X.
> >> >> I have tried everything I know and #startX
> always
> >> >> fatally freezes my pc - no keyboard, no video,
> >> >> I have to manually reboot.
> >> >>
> >> >> It has been suggested I try the vesa driver.
> >> >> I can't find any documentation anywhere on how
> to
> >> >> implement this. Does anyone know what has to
> be done?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >
> >>
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