Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 18:37:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb> To: evanc@synapse.net (Evan Champion) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, staylor@mrynet.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@mrynet.com Subject: Re: Dropped from ALL freebsd lists?!? Message-ID: <199712260237.SAA15647@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971225210407.26453A-100000@piano.synapse.net> from "Evan Champion" at Dec 25, 97 09:06:13 pm
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Evan Champion wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > i may have done you a disservice and unsubscribed you > > without due cause. if so i am sorry. i am not aware of > > having done so. > > The point I was trying to make was that anything could happen one day, and > to be unsubscribed for one bad day -- without any notice that you were > unsubscribed, I might add -- seems a bit much. I mean, bounce for 3 days, > and definitely boot the person, but for one day I don't see the reason for > it. i am sorry that you lost mail, but my responsibilility is to all the subscribers and our mail-relays. no point in sending mail that i have reason to believe will bounce. it just slows mail delivery for everyone else. how am i to know its going to be one bad day? how am i to notify you? cant do it by mail...... i could try telephone, canada is much closer than some subscribers, and whois does give me your phone number..... but lets come to the point, what other mail are you losing? does your business depend upon email? i am going over all this in -questions, because i have not reviewed these issues in public for a while. a host that has proper MX records and decent sysadmin support should never bounce mail. synapse.net is not properly suppoeted by MX records. hub jmb[124] host synapse.net synapse.net mail is handled (pri=10) by smtp-relay1.synapse.net synapse.net mail is handled (pri=20) by smtp-relay2.synapse.net from the traceroute for both: 9 core1.Montreal.iSTAR.net (198.53.254.62) 156.482 ms * 152.852 ms 10 core1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net (198.53.254.58) 172.723 ms 151.504 ms 163.490 ms 11 border1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net (198.53.250.1) 161.649 ms * 161.253 ms 12 synapse-gw.Ottawa.istar.net (198.53.64.182) 168.445 ms 161.441 ms 160.054 ms 13 * flute.synapse.net (199.84.54.1) 179.227 ms 163.816 ms hop 14 reaches either smtp-relay1.synapse.net or smtp-relay2.synapse.net. if you had other MX'ers, they would have spooled the mail rather then it bouncing. evan, you are not alone in being undersupported in DNS. many subscribers are in the same boat. however, my employer does not lose mail due to link outages. (i can tell because my hide is still on my body and not on the wall ;) we have uu.net providing MX for us and just added another connection to the net thru CRL. and our business does *NOT* depend upon Internet email. jmb (on a lighter note, all the aussies out there, sing along together now :) tan me hide when i am dead, fred, tan me hide when i've died. so we tanned his hide when he died, clyde, and that's it hanging on the shed! tie me kargaroo down, boys, tie me kargaroo down......
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