From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Mar 22 12: 1:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285EA37B4AE for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2MK2tq37280; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:02:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:08:18 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Johnson David Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Advocacy help for CS professor Message-Id: <20020322150818.2d41ffaa.darklogik@pittgoth.com> In-Reply-To: <200203221930.g2MJUsq37200@pittgoth.com> References: <20020322013138.A87120@xor.obsecurity.org> <001101c1d1c7$67cf4ae0$a700a8c0@cptnhosedonkey> <3C9B7840.6000409@pittgoth.com> <200203221930.g2MJUsq37200@pittgoth.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0HYOWq(=.wuprx:u" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0HYOWq(=.wuprx:u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:27:38 -0800 Johnson David wrote: > On Friday 22 March 2002 10:30 am, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > I also found it very aggrovating last week when I called IBM to > > purhcase a laptop and they refused to ship a laptop with either > > linux or a formatted harddrive! It had to come with WindowsXP, > > and I replied very friendly ``I do not want XP, I want to buy a > > computer, I want my choice as a customer, can you provide me with > > my choice?'' and I got smacked with a very unfortunate no. I find > > that wrong, I find it ignorant, in America we are apperently to > > have the freedom of choice, if I do not want to pay that $100 > > (somewhere around there) for software that has no real use to me, > > why should I? > > Simply tell them "no thank you", and take your business elsewhere. > Life is too short to waste arguing with salesman who don't want to > sell. > > You may have to capitulate and buy a laptop with Windows on it. But > don't knuckle under to the first dealer that won't deal. > > David > hehe, was the third. I tried Dell, HP, IBM, and afterwords I called up Gateway, who told me the same thing. Here is what bothers me a little bit, IBM has put alot of time into linux, and even 1 or more of the FreeBSD Developers work there in the linux dept. I really do not understand that. Dell is another one who started to do it, they put money and/or time and said they would sell with linux, and then just cut it (I read the news about it) So yes, after a talk with the IBM sales person, I was informed that IBM is planning to do it in the future, but it just has not gone through... So, I am looking elsewhere ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal --0HYOWq(=.wuprx:u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE8m481wPmgiRuevUMRAr4QAJkBnjdq2y27sCy4A+jdfCV9uQZsuwCgvMCi atuxVroOPod/PbtLmD2pLsE= =fClN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0HYOWq(=.wuprx:u-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message