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(freebsd@shatow.net@10.10.0.24) by sweb.xzibition.com with ESMTPA; 20 Oct 2013 22:03:00 -0500 Message-ID: <52649961.3060500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:02:57 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason C. Wells" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: SVN RELEASE_9_2_0 References: <524A0FE5.6010808@speakeasy.net> <52648681.1090109@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <52648681.1090109@speakeasy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 OpenPGP: id=3C9B0CF9; url=http://www.shatow.net/bryan/bryan.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="I4VTEvUk0pr3oASOIFb2GeUdi2XsXD2pP" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 03:03:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --I4VTEvUk0pr3oASOIFb2GeUdi2XsXD2pP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/20/2013 8:42 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Today I tripped over another package that had broken dependencies even > thought It was supposedly a package that was from 9.2-RELEASE release > process. It was celestia, installed from 9.2-release packages, which > depended on libpangox.so.1. I tried to roll my own. The build was broke= n > too. >=20 > My question still stands. Is FreeBSD now building packages prior to the= > actual tagging of the ports tree as RELEASE_9_2_0? It seems like this i= s > the case since the dates of the packages in the FTP archive pre-date th= e > release date. >=20 > For many many releases now I have run only unmodified -release with the= > equivalent ports. And it was good. Now I'm having issues with the > quality of the ports. I am concerned that it is due to a failure in the= > release process. I might be wrong. >=20 > If I'm not, then my request is to not put the cart before the horse and= > ship ports labelled in the FTP archive as -release when they are really= > just a snapshot of a point in time close the release date. That's very > unFreeBSD like. >=20 > i.e.: >=20 > freeze it > build it > fix it > build it > no errors? no changes? > tag it > ship it >=20 > It seems like we skipped freeze it, fix it, and check for errors. We > just built it and shipped it, then later we tagged it for release. Or > maybe we never did the above and I personally just got lucky for 4 majo= r > versions. I do seem to recall things like "ports freeze" on the RE > schedule. >=20 > Regards, > Jason C. Wells >=20 Yes this was all done. Ports have never been 100% building without error though. Many ports were broken during 9.2 time. 1959 ports (of 24,000) are either failing or broken for upcoming 10. This is why we are now sending out weekly build error emails to maintainers. Absolutely many will be broken in the 10 -release tag still. This is a best effort and there is no "stable" ports tree. I'm frankly not sure why anyone would run the -release ports tag as it is immediately old, insecure and unsupported. It's not possible for anyone to help fix issues you find there. On the other hand if you report errors in the real ports tree, we can fix them. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --I4VTEvUk0pr3oASOIFb2GeUdi2XsXD2pP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSZJliAAoJEG54KsA8mwz5v3oP/2D1/9JdxuV6JnZ3geXSqta9 bfYxv4H4GQJs7Kgx/7icJviongEZS8CCbjMQroakGrUFd0cXKWUY827zpJRkMUwj MQZn3qA9qI9bKiLeOyZpRnVu0ZA0B4fVjMquguCxc6wW69S1qhC852IKRA+aEjax zOHCW+BHJjhZlXfpW4kURj3I9CUfYdbn6XSU+PIUUN9jg1no/dtcI9wqeWTAUj0x 0d0pdqJRrcSb12BjEMiU7b6OiRozAGMjLDiIDlWXCE9FSUIFtHbN1wG0Oh/yDfgN CpPVenE2BmUDfJEQaMHigl1psE1dvwGzSWZo2+YSUdi/F3ISmMedesfDzouM+1Ok /b7hnIJUqxmZHuPL/knDi4oXpj0HvNMQkoE+WtyrtWY5gwB9hirTBi++WMUGZI9H YBCIA1PusN9CIiuHtCtVonqelciPQIg+F3dhzEaX63+gOFukWzsH7nvFe/SrTxfT aj9QQlFB2eaZ7AG6FxaQ2PWSjesKxxRHUKbkZ5FBvTeNX2NSHwy2Yt6K9ic9Flhz cZBcTn+7mOVB44y983Snazj31H8OLyaglE53emqpQTj84jl4krGqT8x2QM/WLI22 CVte1K8csAUwXzRYd6YXpOVPT5BDPZ+KviYeqIoF0CYlw7+6K9xvdKGAaSRR6QIS Qyt0B1CNoEcmZnLGZ1gE =mZt4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --I4VTEvUk0pr3oASOIFb2GeUdi2XsXD2pP--