From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 9 11:52:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05261 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:52:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05245 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:51:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id GAA12491; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 06:51:09 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990110065105.30234@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 06:51:05 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Karl Pielorz Cc: holland@i-p-d.nl, jwenger@ac-ent.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Majordomo References: <000101be3bd4$b08982a0$4500a8c0@slopoke.scum.com> <199901091507.QAA07952@ns.i-p-d.nl> <19990110061115.49826@welearn.com.au> <3697B08E.7CB5857C@tdx.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <3697B08E.7CB5857C@tdx.co.uk>; from Karl Pielorz on Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 07:39:58PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 07:39:58PM +0000, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > > Sue Blake wrote: > > > And also with sendmail 8.9.x you'll need to remove the group-write bit > > on the /usr/local/majordomo/lists directory if you haven't done so > > already. If you need ordinary users to access that directory check the > > Majordomo FAQ for alternatives. If you don't make this change, > > majordomo will misbehave unpredictably with the newer sendmails. > > Hmmm... Are you sure you don't mean _sendmail_ will refuse to process the > aliases with "Warning file xxxxx is insecure" or similar? Rather than > Majordomo? No, no, sorry, this is not in any way to do with aliases, it's just an extra caution for people running recent versions of sendmail (as the original poster indicated in the other part I had quoted). It's a problem which I've seen people go through hell trying to track down. Still, you'd expect a sensible error message like that for this problem too, wouldn't you. Doesn't happen. I had something strange like majordomo appeared to function correctly, made its little archives and so on, but the subscribers never actually received their copies. No errors, no complaints, sneaky little bugger it was. But other majordomo users reported different types of strange behaviour, never obvious where the real problem might be, and much of the symptoms downright misleading. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message