From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 08:47:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3676F20; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hans@beastielabs.net) Received: from mail.beastielabs.net (beasties.demon.nl [82.161.3.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA858FC16; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merom.hotsoft.nl (merom.hotsoft.nl [192.168.0.12]) by mail.beastielabs.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9L8ej5X078426; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:40:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hans@beastielabs.net) Message-ID: <5083B50D.2080009@beastielabs.net> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:40:45 +0200 From: Hans Ottevanger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121012 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Sp=F6rlein?= Subject: Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months References: <20121019143617.GF69724@acme.spoerlein.net> In-Reply-To: <20121019143617.GF69724@acme.spoerlein.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:47:23 -0000 On 10/19/12 16:36, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > Hi all, > > those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the > tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of > date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be > found online using a search engine of your choice. > Could you be more specific as to why these sources have been "very naughty"? > Should people feel strongly about them, we might be able to move them > over to the doc repository. > I strongly object this removal. As already pointed out by others, there are papers documenting vi/ex and RPC/XDR. These papers are practically the only docs available on these subjects, apart from the very terse man pages. There are also tutorials on e.g. Yacc and Lex, that probably are not that up-to-date but quite short and (at least for now) readily available. And there is also the IPC Tutorial. This may not all be documents that are immediately needed for operational purposes, but they do offer much needed background information, also of historical character, i.e. how and why things became as they are today. Regards, Hans Ottevanger