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Date:      Mon, 16 Oct 1995 02:45:20 +0300 (MSK)
From:      =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>, j@uriah.heep.sax.de
Cc:        hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, kaleb@x.org
Subject:   Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP
Message-ID:  <LkGqPWm8c2@ache.dialup.demos.ru>
In-Reply-To: <199510152252.IAA32542@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:52:00 %2B1000
References:  <199510152252.IAA32542@godzilla.zeta.org.au>

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In message <199510152252.IAA32542@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Bruce Evans
    writes:

>>> Did you setenv ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE before calling ls?
>>> See environ(7) (-current).

>>IMHO, the base utilities that use <ctype.h> should properly initialize
>>the locale instead of relying on that hack.  (The hack is useful to
>>force programs that don't like to handle locale's, but base utilities
>>of the system are expected to do it right theirselves.)

>BTW, this hack adds 24K to the size of a minimal statically linked
>program `main() {}' and defeats the point of most of the specially named
>routines in crt0.c.  E.g., there is a special version of getenv() named
>_getenv() to avoid the namespace pollution and bloat from getenv(), but
>the hack calls getenv() anyway; there are special versions of read() and
>write(), but _startup_setlocale() references things in stdio that reference
>read() and write().

And what? Now too many pgms require proper locale support, even ls,
so we can't avoid this thing. Code added regardles of
ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE set or not, so 'hack' means this variable
as I understand and not code added. As I already say,
I can revert default case to pick ctype and use variable
DISABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE to disable it for debugging purposes.

-- 
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