From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 25 19:10:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17112 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17106; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:10:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA12869; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd012867; Thu Dec 25 19:03:05 1997 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:00:11 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Evan Champion , staylor@mrynet.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@mrynet.com Subject: Re: Dropped from ALL freebsd lists?!? In-Reply-To: <199712260237.SAA15647@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Evan Champion wrote: > > > > to be unsubscribed for one bad day -- without any notice that you were > > unsubscribed, I might add -- seems a bit much. I mean, bounce for 3 days, > > and definitely boot the person, but for one day I don't see the reason for > > it. > > i am sorry that you lost mail, but my responsibilility is to > all the subscribers and our mail-relays. no point in > sending mail that i have reason to believe will bounce. > it just slows mail delivery for everyone else. Evan there is a definite difference between a crashed mail server (in which case the mail will wait quietly somewhere for delivery) and a server that spams the list with 3 dozen annoying messages. remember also that it may have been a 15 minute stuffup on your part but the slow and tortuous delivery of mail to some parts of the world mean that people were getting these messages over a period of hours. it's possible that jmb was a bit quick, but that's the luck of the draw and really it's a judgement call by him. We have to support him on this, becasue can you imagine how the list would look if he didn't do it? it might be a good idea if there was amailing list for peple removed, that sent 1 message per day for 2 weeks or so, saying that they were removed.. >