From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 03:54:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E95316A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:54:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natasha.tepid.org (natasha.tepid.org [68.148.0.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130CE43D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from weingart@tepid.org) Received: from natasha.tepid.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by natasha.tepid.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1983F3C; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:54:24 -0700 (MST) To: Sean Hafeez In-Reply-To: Message from Sean Hafeez Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:54:24 -0700 Message-ID: <28235.1111290864@natasha.tepid.org> From: Tobias Weingartner cc: weingart@tepid.org cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:54:25 -0000 On Saturday, March 19, Sean Hafeez wrote: > > There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I > am going home" stuff just does not work. Other approaches have been tried. Extensively, and for a long time. If you know of an approach that works, please demonstrate. At this point, I believe that the community would welcome someone that is going to step up, and have adaptec supply the documentation because they negotiated it out of them. Words here are cheap... but at the current time, they are the only thing we really have left. The voice of the community. > The vendors need a business > case in order to do things - they are in business to make money and I > can agree with that. They have a business case. More than one. 1800+ cards is not a business case? The points I brought up are not a business case? The bad press and such are not a business case? Give me a break. --Toby.