From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Feb 27 21:57:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bryden.apana.org.au (bryden.apana.org.au [203.3.126.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E4F37B719 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:57:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dougy@bryden.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner (roadrunner.apana.org.au [203.3.126.132]) by bryden.apana.org.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1S5upE82897; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:56:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@bryden.apana.org.au) Message-ID: <02ff01c0a14b$5d514440$847e03cb@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: "Kathy Quinlan" Cc: References: <0102261151010E.00803@PhD_1.testname.com.au> <02b201c09fa3$3b39c020$847e03cb@apana.org.au> <01022815263608.12912@PhD_1.testname.com.au> <02b801c0a146$76345e20$847e03cb@apana.org.au> <00cd01c0a148$05343a40$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> Subject: Re: install from floppy Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:57:38 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking at all the broadband options actually . Ideally I'd like a duplex satellite system (no limit on available areas & the latency issue keeps the doom / quake kiddies at bay) but the cost is still ezcessive. As for cable / DSL, Tel$tra gets on the tail end of the list automatically due to the dirty tricks they habitually play. I notice from the postings on www.cableusers.com.au & www.adslusers.com.au that both Tel$tra & Optus cop a dreadful bashing over poor service / stupidly worded & even deliberately misleading (the ombudsman certainly took that view of the Optus one) acceptable use policies / etc, whereas Primus & Pacific generally get good reviews. I know there are only a few noisy ones lurking at those sites so possibly some of the flak is overdone ... even so the Primus AUP is infinitely more intelligent than the Tel$tra / Optus ones. I'm not prepared to play their fool games with netstats / traffic lights either. If they acted like adults & specified what "acceptable usage" is in proper english I might consider the majors, but until then I'll take my business elsewhere. We'd definitely prefer to have business type connections but all the current DSL providers wet themselves at the thought of the charges they can levy on people wanting "proper" IPs. The stupid thing is that we own more public IPs than almost any telco or ISP in the country. Looks like its a matter of exercising some ingenuity to get something like "unlimited" data & effectively "proper" IPs without offending those AUPs or paying a kings ransom for data. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: "Doug Young" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:33 PM Subject: Re: install from floppy > > FTP from someplace else works fine as long as > > you have a reasonable permanent connection. (ie preferably not relying on > > Tel$tra) > > > lol Doug > > I am subscribing to telstra ADSL is cheap and has good packages > > 18 month contract install $189 and 78 per month with *no* download limit > > In WA everyone is reselling telstra ADSL as no one else wants to provide the > infrastructure :o((( > > Regards, > > Kat. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message