From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Mar 1 18:03:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13356 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 18:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13348 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 18:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26306; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 18:01:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 18:01:53 -0800 (PST) From: Snob Art Genre To: Andrew Perry cc: Jason Wells , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terminals and environments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Andrew Perry wrote: > Can't help you much except with your university account. When I connect to > a bsdi box from myu FreeBSD box it says the same thing. I just use vt100 > as my terminal type. Find out what type of unix the uni is using and maybe > talk to your system admin about which type of terminal you should be > using. > Also when you're at the uni type "echo $TERM" and it should tell you what > one you're using. cons25 doesn't speak vt100 perfectly -- I'm not sure if it even tries to. A good way to get vt100 from the console is to run screen, which is in the ports collection under "misc". You can also replace syscons with pcvt, but that's a pain. > Hope this helps > Andrew Perry > andrew@shoal.net.au > > On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Jason Wells wrote: > > > This tends to be two questions in one. I gather that they are closely > > related, therefore they both appear in one posting. > > > > Pointing me to the correct resource will be much appreciated. I seem to > > be reading in circles on the topic of terminal types and the users > > environment. > > > > I am a bash user. > > > > As I understand (misunderstand?) things. Please correct me if need be. > > > > tty = terminal type or terminal device. > > > > Init starts a terminal via getty for login. > > > > tty is connected (for lack of a better word) to the standard > > input. > > > > After login the the users login file (.profile in my case) can be > > used to set the terminal type. > > > > My environment is established entirely by my .profile. (I am > > suspicous that this is false.) > > > > If I have my keyboard plugged in that is all that is necessary for > > having input processed correctly. (I suspect this to be false as > > well.) > > > > Having said the above here are my troubles. > > > > My environment somehow changes when I start X using startx. I noticed > > this because my aliases that I established in my .profile no longer > > function. By what mechanism is my environment changed when I start X? > > > > I seem to be stumbling upon some arbitrary changes of environment. I > > doubt however that the change is arbitrary but is determined by some > > code that is unknown to me. What actions does a user perform that end up > > resulting in a change of environment? More specifically, are there > > events other than login that change my environment without my knowing > > that my environment is being changed? > > > > When I telnet to my university account I am able to login. After login > > some commands execute and some commands return "unknown terminal type: > > cons25." I guess that I have to set some terminal type in my > > environment. How do I change the type of terminal that I use? What > > actions does a user perform that result in a change of terminal type? > > > > How do I get my delete key to delete the current character position > > instead of the previous character position? Perhaps this is a DOS-ism > > but dammit that is how the delete should work. This little detail causes > > me mucho aggravation. > > -- > > __ __ > > / 0\ / 0\ Thank you * Highperformance.net > > ) Wannabe Sysadmin * The homeless domain > > )-------( Jason Wells * "Pardon me sir, spare some bandwidth?" > > \_____/ > > > > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."